I simply don’t see a time where I wouldn’t be wearing that other than the wilderness. But it does unlock the biggest troll which would be a dupe 3a kite with no other pieces bc you can’t flex em both lol
No, no, no, someone out there did the grind to get these drops a second time to get them in their collection log. Should we really punish those players by making it easy for some others to get these collection log slots. Doesn't that completely undermine their efforts. /s
True but there are items obtained on non-irons that we've already gotten but can't do the same. I don't personally care much about clog but it would be sick to have my kraken jar and visage in my log. It just seems strange to provide a collectionist benefit to one side but not the other. Once again, idc about clogs, just a strange precedent.
At least with pets it was easy to prove no matter the account type. As long as you had it it was easy to retroactivily add.
I cant wait for this to roll out and somehow hit all acount types and boaty and many others has full 3rd age in collection log.
They polled changes last month to make MTA a little bit less awful, just so you know: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poll:Poll_81_-_Mage_Training_Arena
As an iron who has a good amount of endgame items (at the time) not on the log, am very happy with this. I *did* get the drop, should be reflected as such. Doing even 1k Shamans post-dwh to try & get the log spot felt awful because did the grind before… (And didnt get a 2nd one ofc). Playing while knowing my collection log is inaccurate and would never be fixed is a bummer too, especially when you see players who have a fully accurate clog.
So long theres no way to abuse it, and they triple check every possible abuse scenario - then hell yes!
Collection log came out very early after the creation of my ironman, but by then I already did the ranger boots grind, so I am missing 240 clues worth of uniques in that slot. So damn happy
It will likely only give the logs for items still owned(as how else would they be able to do it. Which is still better than nothing but with clue items some will still be incorrect likely due to not being kept.
I wonder if it will check for upgradeable items or if people who turned rangers into pegasians will be still missing it.
also jealous, i think about these 2 missing from my log everytime i see vorkath
https://preview.redd.it/nk5x4kkajtwc1.png?width=517&format=png&auto=webp&s=107d909edd097ec1e9633c0da38029a53c65d96c
Another thing that should be safeguarded would be the tzhaar log, since you could buy items from shops with tokkul and use that on the log.
If they check the whole log, and make sure nobody can gain free slots, then surely there are very little downsides to this, but if they just rawdog it and people abuse it early on, then they fix it, I think it'll leave a bad mark for lots of people who do care about col log (not me idgaf about that)
Buying items from shops should just count for clog. Tons of other clog spots are based on items from shops like most of the minigame tab is based on buying stuff from the shop of the minigame. In some of the mini games you can even sell stuff back for 100% of its price so you just can get X amount of points for the most expensive thing and then green log it by buying it selling it, then repeatedly doing that.
Issue is it sorta **has to be**.
Otherwise where is the "collecting" aspect. I can just swipe a credit card and go to the GE to buy most of the collection log items.
You're not wrong, but that's just not fun.
You might as well remove any item that can be bought from a shop using gp/gp-adjacent currencies. Obsidian items would become just like the dragon longsword. Which isn't in the log.
You can fill clogs in a lot of other ways, like Tempoross reward pool. It needs to allow clog for any received item except through trade/GE, which is probably not possible to determine systematically for non-irons.
why does graceful unlock from a shop but not tzhaar? i’m not really advocating and i know the difference is there is an alternate unlock route, but on the surface there are weird exceptions
Well the TzHaar items are also different in the sense that you can essentially just buy tokkul with gp, unlike marks of grace or different minigame tokens. So they'd be free cloggers for mains, jagex didn't want that so they made them only unlock from drops, and then didn't make an exception for irons (as they shouldn't, less exceptions=good).
Graceful is unlocked from a shop... With an untradeable currency you had to earn. It's essentially a minigame.
Now if graceful was a 1/500 drop each lap, and you could sell chaos runes to that shop to just skip the agility grind and just buy it.. yeah then it would be stupid to clog (like tzhaar)
the only correct take is that irons can do this with integrity, with no risk to the collection log, so they should be able to.
Mains can’t, it sucks but just because they lose out doesn’t mean irons should. Every aspect of ironman is harder than the main game so this 1 very niche upside for players who played pre-log is a bit of a non issue tbh
not a huge fan of there being a cosmetic clog reward as in rs3 cosmetic overall log rewards really fucked the economy as you have endgame players who feel compelled to grind every single mid level boss for the titles, it remaining as entirely a self-set goal would be way better i think
I don't think so. I don't think the game knows if you got the item as a drop or if you bought it. For iron men, that's not a problem because you can only get the item as a drop.
Would be nice if mains could do it for any untradeable item, and irons can do it for all tradeable and untradeable items. A broad sweeping fix to any "i got it, but pre log". Still doesn't fix things like mains doing 1000s of clues before log, but still better tha nnothig.
Don’t see what the fuss is about, never played an iron before but at the end of the day, Ironmen who got a drop before clog came out still got that drop, it’s not as if they could buy it, so they should be allowed to have that rectified on their log in my opinion, don’t know how that’s so controversial to people. Bit bummed that there isn’t a way for this to happen for mains also but not too bothered about that either.
Not wanting log fixed for some people if they don't get theirs is peak "if I can't have it nobody can" loser mentality
I'm saying this as a main who's normally annoyed about ironmen condescending about gpscape and wanting the game to cater to them
Only one I could imagine getting annoyed at this is someone who spent time hunting down drops for a second time to fill the clog, and even that'd be next level mental gymnastics if someone did. Or rather, when someone inevitably does.
Iron part good, highscores good. The overview screen seems not very useful to me. For 99.99% of people, even dedicated cloggers, all the categories will be permanently yellow. There's not anything inherently wrong with that, it just almost seems comparable to CA's or Achievement diaries when the time investment is not in the same arena.
I hate how much clogging has become ingrained the game. It should be an interesting tidbit of info, not a goal or something content is designed around.
Wish devs would spend their resources on something better tbh.
Makes perfect sense to be honest. Good for them. I bet a lot of mains are crying about irons right now even though there's literally not a single problem with this.
It's poor logic both ways is my point. It's dumb to not fix bad content simply because it would benefit irons. In reality 99% of updates people think "caters to irons" literally is just a general QoL of the content itself. The fact that mains can buy the rewards from the content makes them think buying is the primary way to obtain items. It's been a long-standing baseline of stupidity on repeat tbh.
There's literally no downside to this other than wanting to spite other people. Should absolutely be done if it's reasonable to do so without tying up a lot of dev time. If this is a huge undertaking then there may be better things to prioritize time/effort.
let them. no reason irons should have to go back to content they've completed like corp, revs, etc.
"we found the iron" I'm a main so not a care in the world
I remember specifically reading that this was intentionally held back eventho it was clear to be popular. Maybe technicals held them back. Massive progress.
Sounds awesome, good for early iron collection loggers!
I feel like this would also be good for untraceable collection logs for mains too, like trouble brewing stuff or outfits maybe or something. Pets I know are already covered
In theory it can’t be that crazy to implement. Every item has an itemID — loop through all itemIDs in bank/inventory —> verify if the collection log it ticked or not. If not, do.
At a pseudo code level this seems extremely trivial. Not sure why this stuff takes so long to implement (…because it doesn’t make money)
Yeah, you can't mod OSRS. It's played on a server, so everything has to be validated by the server.
The closest thing to mods are Runelite plugins and self-imposed restrictions. Settled (OSRS YouTuber) has a series right now where the account ends if he takes damage, for example.
I feel like this should've been handled immediately after the clog came out. Glad they're getting to it though. The clog highscores is also a welcome addition.
Fuck yes I have been waiting for this for so long!!! I have so many unlocks that aren't reflected in my log, including almost a full barrows log, rangers, and so much other stuff
Sounds like a good deal all around. The only question I'd have is if there's any possible vector for abuse. But I'm sure devs will cover that to maintain the integrity of the game and clogs
One vector for abuse could be group irons? I don't know, maybe one account got the drop but another account is using the item and also gets credit for the drop? I also don't know how opting out of group teams works. Could one theoretically have a high level teammate get a drop, the drop gets into group storage and then a lvl 3 account takes it and then opts out of the group to be a standalone iron... Would that person then get the clog?
Again, not really sure how group irons work in that respect or how the dev team will credit the clog slots but that could be one vector for abuse
great news, this is how I hoped it'd be when it released.
as an old iron, I never really cared too much about the collection log because they stated it wouldn't be retroactive. I already get enough dupes while grinding for drops, I'm not interested in going back to grind out more just for the log.
Yes
I'm an old account and I started barrows before the log. I greenlogged it besides one item (which I have the full set) and I really don't want to go back for one item
If this doesn't mess with anything, aka shit doesn't break, then I see no reason this shouldn't be implemented. Clog is a clog fair and square. Just because people got it before clogs became a thing doesn't mean they shouldn't be retroactively added if there is a way it can be done.
I see *why*, but man I just hate the collection log. When it was released they said over and over that they didn't consider it a competitive thing and don't want people obsessing over it. And yet, here we are
I don't like the idea. Many mains have obtained items too before the clog came out. Keep it fair. He is also releasing a hiscore for clog in the same update so why ruin the integrity of that hiscores instantly by giving ironmen a 4 year head start?
I think that's fair. I'm not an Iron nor Mod Husky, but I assume that the collection log slot will only be 'checked' if the account did indeed get the drop before. If so, then I think that this is a good change; as long as you \*did\* get the drop at one point, why should you be penalized just because you got it before said item received its own log slot? Especially considering how rare some of the items can be in this game
Go Mod Husky! :)
The game can't check if you got the drop before, but it can check if you have the drop now. If you're an Ironman the only way to get an item is if you got the drop, so that's why they're doing it like this.
Support! I used to be a grey helm and would've loved this. Now I'm a booger helm playing with the boys and know it won't apply to me but still want it for the original irons.
It's a great idea IMO. I abandoned my ironman account when the collection log was introduced without this feature. It felt like all my completed grinds were invalidated, whether you personally think that's stupid or not. I would get straight back into the game if this retroactive thing was introduced.
What about items like cut onyx from Tekton? You can use one on the log and it will say you got it from Tekton? I’m sure there are others just one that came to mind
I like what Husky is doing here, and it just makes sense to allow irons to add items to their clog that they already obtained. Let’s not forget that they undoubtedly already obtained the item, this just avoids them having to get the items again, to what… prove for a second time that they obtained an item on an account that can’t trade with other players..? Solid update in my view (and I play GIM so I don’t have skin in this game).
Why not figure out a way for mains also, then? It's kind of unfair. They should still go through with it, obviously, but it sucks that a main still has to do the same grind to get the log slot. It's not like getting the drop naturally is any different.
I can see an issue with a lot of items:
Dragon pick,
Onyx cut and uncut
Mint cake,
Obsidian armor, cape and weapons
Gotr dyes
Granite body
And probably a bunch im forgetting
E: this reason i am against the use of items on the book.
The rest i'm a ok with
Wouldn't benefit or even affect me in any way shape or form but it'd be nice for those earlier adopters of iron mode
we found him boys. the most logical runescape player! well done!
Only took a gay otter
He blows other dudes outta the water.
Nonono. He only blows dudes IN the water. I know, he's my cousin.
I hope he wasn't blowing you in the water, because that would be weird.
username definitely checks out lmao
Burn him at the stake!!!!! /s
Burn him with the steak
Wait, he hasn't said pvp bad yet.
Thank you! I got a 3rd age kite on my iron but no clog.
thats drip
I simply don’t see a time where I wouldn’t be wearing that other than the wilderness. But it does unlock the biggest troll which would be a dupe 3a kite with no other pieces bc you can’t flex em both lol
Or those who did forestry before its clog came out.
No, no, no, someone out there did the grind to get these drops a second time to get them in their collection log. Should we really punish those players by making it easy for some others to get these collection log slots. Doesn't that completely undermine their efforts. /s
It wouldn’t effect me in any way shape or form. I am completely against it and will terminate my membership if this change is made
I mean technically those logslots are obtained already so why not
True but there are items obtained on non-irons that we've already gotten but can't do the same. I don't personally care much about clog but it would be sick to have my kraken jar and visage in my log. It just seems strange to provide a collectionist benefit to one side but not the other. Once again, idc about clogs, just a strange precedent.
Well, the difference is they can more easily prove that the irons got the drop themselves vs non-irons.
The precedent is definitely being extended, but the first time they did this was when they reworked pets. So like, not entirely unprecedented.
At least with pets it was easy to prove no matter the account type. As long as you had it it was easy to retroactivily add. I cant wait for this to roll out and somehow hit all acount types and boaty and many others has full 3rd age in collection log.
I got a pet before log and it’s not marked in the log. Is there something you need to do?
The only thing I got pre-log were infinity boots, please give me the slot I’m never going in there again.
They polled changes last month to make MTA a little bit less awful, just so you know: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poll:Poll_81_-_Mage_Training_Arena
When will this come out??
🤷♂️
Sounded like they targeted end of May unless I misheard on stream but I wasn't paying much attention either.
I would be very curious if you could use Eternal boots (or other upgrade path items, like a DHL) to log all their base components.
Same and I'm gutted about a vissy I got from skeletal wyverns because I don't think I'll get another one
https://preview.redd.it/u7yrp0dvstwc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=638b906190ee0e47e1e4907b2e5f6d9abedc1775 I for one support this change…
You were spooned anyways, undeserved!!
Too true!
I legitimately think my first random event was a stale baguette lmao so I’m totally talking out mu ass
Damn did AWS do you dirty?
My wife works for AWS, felt appropriate!
As an iron who has a good amount of endgame items (at the time) not on the log, am very happy with this. I *did* get the drop, should be reflected as such. Doing even 1k Shamans post-dwh to try & get the log spot felt awful because did the grind before… (And didnt get a 2nd one ofc). Playing while knowing my collection log is inaccurate and would never be fixed is a bummer too, especially when you see players who have a fully accurate clog. So long theres no way to abuse it, and they triple check every possible abuse scenario - then hell yes!
1k extra shamans just for a clog spot 😵💫
Honestly just sad
Collection log came out very early after the creation of my ironman, but by then I already did the ranger boots grind, so I am missing 240 clues worth of uniques in that slot. So damn happy
Finished Barrows before log, so that's a ton of slots. Also 3rd Age Vambs.
I did almost 2k easy clues pre log lol this will be great
It will likely only give the logs for items still owned(as how else would they be able to do it. Which is still better than nothing but with clue items some will still be incorrect likely due to not being kept. I wonder if it will check for upgradeable items or if people who turned rangers into pegasians will be still missing it.
Same here though offhand the only item I can think of is team cape from the easy clue
oh is that why this is only for irons, because they had to get the drop themselves
Did all of the irons bought items sold to stores have them removed? TBH it was a decade ago right after ironman came out so I really doubt it matters.
What would it matter if it is abused? Clog slots don’t give items
We may be getting some sort of rewards like the combat achieves
Not particularly bothered but as a clogger main who got a gilded full helm pre-log I am envious
also jealous, i think about these 2 missing from my log everytime i see vorkath https://preview.redd.it/nk5x4kkajtwc1.png?width=517&format=png&auto=webp&s=107d909edd097ec1e9633c0da38029a53c65d96c
Holy fucking spoon
That’s fucking awesome. I wish visage still had some good worth like that
my tbow pre-log prob never gonna get filled in again lmao
Surely you'll get it on the next kc
I got 3rd age platebody pre log 😭 and a shitload of clue rewards
Ive gotten third age and the jar of stone pre log ://
Got a visage on my main pre-clog, still have the old OSBuddy screenshot 🥲
Another thing that should be safeguarded would be the tzhaar log, since you could buy items from shops with tokkul and use that on the log. If they check the whole log, and make sure nobody can gain free slots, then surely there are very little downsides to this, but if they just rawdog it and people abuse it early on, then they fix it, I think it'll leave a bad mark for lots of people who do care about col log (not me idgaf about that)
Buying items from shops should just count for clog. Tons of other clog spots are based on items from shops like most of the minigame tab is based on buying stuff from the shop of the minigame. In some of the mini games you can even sell stuff back for 100% of its price so you just can get X amount of points for the most expensive thing and then green log it by buying it selling it, then repeatedly doing that.
Yup, its a collection log, not a log of items aquired in a specific way..
Issue is it sorta **has to be**. Otherwise where is the "collecting" aspect. I can just swipe a credit card and go to the GE to buy most of the collection log items.
>I can just swipe a credit card Yeah, that's how collections work in real life too
Good thing we're playing a video game and can design around fun instead of wealth
Collecting implies getting it from npcs, not other players. Basically any way an ironman can get stuff.
Yes implies getting the item, not trading for it.
You're not wrong, but that's just not fun. You might as well remove any item that can be bought from a shop using gp/gp-adjacent currencies. Obsidian items would become just like the dragon longsword. Which isn't in the log.
Then yes, remove them. Lmao idk why some of those things got put in in the first place.
The alternative approach is to accept any means of acquiring a item as a coll log unlock, including buying from shops
Which honestly is how it should work for every account lol. Only thing that shouldn’t give it the GE, obviously.
Directly trading other players gives log slots LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
Send it. This way normies stop pretending theyre ironmen
…I’ll allow it
I think items bought from a shop should fill clog slots, even for mains. It is about obtaining items, not about obtaining items in convoluted ways
I support shops unlocking clog slots but does "obtaining loot from a monster you killed" qualify as convoluted to you?
You can fill clogs in a lot of other ways, like Tempoross reward pool. It needs to allow clog for any received item except through trade/GE, which is probably not possible to determine systematically for non-irons.
why does graceful unlock from a shop but not tzhaar? i’m not really advocating and i know the difference is there is an alternate unlock route, but on the surface there are weird exceptions
Well the TzHaar items are also different in the sense that you can essentially just buy tokkul with gp, unlike marks of grace or different minigame tokens. So they'd be free cloggers for mains, jagex didn't want that so they made them only unlock from drops, and then didn't make an exception for irons (as they shouldn't, less exceptions=good).
Graceful is unlocked from a shop... With an untradeable currency you had to earn. It's essentially a minigame. Now if graceful was a 1/500 drop each lap, and you could sell chaos runes to that shop to just skip the agility grind and just buy it.. yeah then it would be stupid to clog (like tzhaar)
Abyssal lantern can be bought or gotten from reward pool and afaik both unlock clog slot.
That's kind of my sentiment. Could be a few issues there, but by and large doesn't really affect me so I wouldn't mind either way.
Dabe is about to be really happy
This should have been a thing when collection log was released tbh
I think only untradeables like pets were logged automatically, yeah? Sucks that I finished Barrows before log came out and also did hella hard clues.
RIP mains getting anything pre log
You chose to limit yourself
Poor traders
Normals
Rather be a normal account than someone who thinks they’re special on an online video game pmsl
Yeah much better to have daily reddit meltdowns about ironman mode like you
I hope this gets added, would make collection logging so much more better Also clog highscores lets fucking goo
the only correct take is that irons can do this with integrity, with no risk to the collection log, so they should be able to. Mains can’t, it sucks but just because they lose out doesn’t mean irons should. Every aspect of ironman is harder than the main game so this 1 very niche upside for players who played pre-log is a bit of a non issue tbh
Dabe is going to be happy if this passes
But also Rip a lot of content for his series lol
Yeah, doesn't that invalidate a big part of the series? At minimum he'll have to re-do his intro 😂
The first person I thought of too lol
not a huge fan of there being a cosmetic clog reward as in rs3 cosmetic overall log rewards really fucked the economy as you have endgame players who feel compelled to grind every single mid level boss for the titles, it remaining as entirely a self-set goal would be way better i think
Can it be for mains also ? My imbued heart isn't in my log :(
I don't think so. I don't think the game knows if you got the item as a drop or if you bought it. For iron men, that's not a problem because you can only get the item as a drop.
Mains can get those items via tradaing. Ironmen can't.
Would be nice if mains could do it for any untradeable item, and irons can do it for all tradeable and untradeable items. A broad sweeping fix to any "i got it, but pre log". Still doesn't fix things like mains doing 1000s of clues before log, but still better tha nnothig.
Pretty much all untradeable items were retroactively added to log on release, do you have a counter example?
You're incorrect on that. The **only** untradeables that were retroactively added were pets.
Don’t see what the fuss is about, never played an iron before but at the end of the day, Ironmen who got a drop before clog came out still got that drop, it’s not as if they could buy it, so they should be allowed to have that rectified on their log in my opinion, don’t know how that’s so controversial to people. Bit bummed that there isn’t a way for this to happen for mains also but not too bothered about that either.
I see both perspectives, but overall it seems pretty harmless to anyone except the irons who can unlock the slots - so why not?
There is literally zero downside to this.
Not wanting log fixed for some people if they don't get theirs is peak "if I can't have it nobody can" loser mentality I'm saying this as a main who's normally annoyed about ironmen condescending about gpscape and wanting the game to cater to them
I don't think there's another perspective here. They already got the drop, that's the whole reason of the collection log.
Only one I could imagine getting annoyed at this is someone who spent time hunting down drops for a second time to fill the clog, and even that'd be next level mental gymnastics if someone did. Or rather, when someone inevitably does.
I get it only works for Ironman. But wish I had this for my main as well. So many drops I don’t have on log
Yes please, my barrows log was entirely pre collection log so it's empty
Iron part good, highscores good. The overview screen seems not very useful to me. For 99.99% of people, even dedicated cloggers, all the categories will be permanently yellow. There's not anything inherently wrong with that, it just almost seems comparable to CA's or Achievement diaries when the time investment is not in the same arena.
If mains can do it too id have no issue with it.
For normals too please. No way im getting dwh/visage and full barrows clog again
Why not all accs
I hate how much clogging has become ingrained the game. It should be an interesting tidbit of info, not a goal or something content is designed around. Wish devs would spend their resources on something better tbh.
Its a game jam, the point is that devs can work on what they please.
Makes perfect sense to be honest. Good for them. I bet a lot of mains are crying about irons right now even though there's literally not a single problem with this.
Mains chose to not limit themselves.
It's poor logic both ways is my point. It's dumb to not fix bad content simply because it would benefit irons. In reality 99% of updates people think "caters to irons" literally is just a general QoL of the content itself. The fact that mains can buy the rewards from the content makes them think buying is the primary way to obtain items. It's been a long-standing baseline of stupidity on repeat tbh.
There's literally no downside to this other than wanting to spite other people. Should absolutely be done if it's reasonable to do so without tying up a lot of dev time. If this is a huge undertaking then there may be better things to prioritize time/effort.
Good? I mean, is there really any argument for why this shouldn't be a thing other than "fuck them irons"?
what about for mains that got loot before the log?
The GE exists, and there's no way to tell what a main bought off that vs earned... You can with an iron, it's not that deep.
Collection log was a mistake
?
0 downside to this. An absolute yes from me.
No. They choose to limit themselves, so no /s
let them. no reason irons should have to go back to content they've completed like corp, revs, etc. "we found the iron" I'm a main so not a care in the world
I remember specifically reading that this was intentionally held back eventho it was clear to be popular. Maybe technicals held them back. Massive progress.
As an iron with stale baguette pre-CLog and not since, I will be happy to be officially done with random events log once and for all.
I'm not an ironman, but I think this is a great idea.
wdym thoughts? this should have been like this in the first place.
Sae bae gonna be happy.
Neat.
Don't do it! It will ruin all my completionist yt series I'm watching, let them grind for it again 🤪
Cool. Should’ve been on release.
It would be amazing. I did around 300 clues before the collection log and none of it shows. I have ranger boots but not in my log which sucks.
Sounds awesome, good for early iron collection loggers! I feel like this would also be good for untraceable collection logs for mains too, like trouble brewing stuff or outfits maybe or something. Pets I know are already covered
As long as it doesn't happen to old group ironmen accounts
GIM came out after collection log so there's no reason to apply it to them.
In theory it can’t be that crazy to implement. Every item has an itemID — loop through all itemIDs in bank/inventory —> verify if the collection log it ticked or not. If not, do. At a pseudo code level this seems extremely trivial. Not sure why this stuff takes so long to implement (…because it doesn’t make money)
Wait you can mod OSR?
Are you asking cuz it says "Mod Husky"? Cuz that's just what the developers are called. Mod _____ or JMod _____.
No I just started playing last week so I’m asking because I genuinely have no idea and probably misunderstood the title
Yeah, you can't mod OSRS. It's played on a server, so everything has to be validated by the server. The closest thing to mods are Runelite plugins and self-imposed restrictions. Settled (OSRS YouTuber) has a series right now where the account ends if he takes damage, for example.
I feel like this should've been handled immediately after the clog came out. Glad they're getting to it though. The clog highscores is also a welcome addition.
Fuck yes I have been waiting for this for so long!!! I have so many unlocks that aren't reflected in my log, including almost a full barrows log, rangers, and so much other stuff
Sounds like a good deal all around. The only question I'd have is if there's any possible vector for abuse. But I'm sure devs will cover that to maintain the integrity of the game and clogs One vector for abuse could be group irons? I don't know, maybe one account got the drop but another account is using the item and also gets credit for the drop? I also don't know how opting out of group teams works. Could one theoretically have a high level teammate get a drop, the drop gets into group storage and then a lvl 3 account takes it and then opts out of the group to be a standalone iron... Would that person then get the clog? Again, not really sure how group irons work in that respect or how the dev team will credit the clog slots but that could be one vector for abuse
Won't apply to GIM.
I got the stale baguette in 2018 in f2p. 6 years of playing and I haven't gotten one with the collection log being a thing.
Having 280 med clues with 3 log slots is pretty sick though.
Omg yes please I’ve got 3k+ easy clues and ~2k were pre log
Not PvP? Doesn't affect me in anyway? Better automatically vote no on any and and all PvM updates :). /s cuz this forum is full of toxic trolls.
Not an iron but I kinda liked having the shazien armor t5 and all the prior ones unfilled. It showed how old my account was.
Yes please
Would I be able to get my untrimmed skill cape back from my placeholder
Please give me my 3rd age coif slot, maybe not be the best one but I want it shown...
great news, this is how I hoped it'd be when it released. as an old iron, I never really cared too much about the collection log because they stated it wouldn't be retroactive. I already get enough dupes while grinding for drops, I'm not interested in going back to grind out more just for the log.
Yes I'm an old account and I started barrows before the log. I greenlogged it besides one item (which I have the full set) and I really don't want to go back for one item
Even as an iron this wont affect me cause i never really got much clog stuff done but it would absolutely be a great update for the others, i approve.
If this doesn't mess with anything, aka shit doesn't break, then I see no reason this shouldn't be implemented. Clog is a clog fair and square. Just because people got it before clogs became a thing doesn't mean they shouldn't be retroactively added if there is a way it can be done.
I'd be down for it even though I only play main. It'd be funny to see a couple hundred ironmen green log barrows all of a sudden.
Lowsoulgamers will explode if this happens 😂
Do this for everyone, should have been that way release date.
He's doing the Lord's work.
I see *why*, but man I just hate the collection log. When it was released they said over and over that they didn't consider it a competitive thing and don't want people obsessing over it. And yet, here we are
I don't like the idea. Many mains have obtained items too before the clog came out. Keep it fair. He is also releasing a hiscore for clog in the same update so why ruin the integrity of that hiscores instantly by giving ironmen a 4 year head start?
Irons the only mode with integrity for this to work.
I think that's fair. I'm not an Iron nor Mod Husky, but I assume that the collection log slot will only be 'checked' if the account did indeed get the drop before. If so, then I think that this is a good change; as long as you \*did\* get the drop at one point, why should you be penalized just because you got it before said item received its own log slot? Especially considering how rare some of the items can be in this game Go Mod Husky! :)
The game can't check if you got the drop before, but it can check if you have the drop now. If you're an Ironman the only way to get an item is if you got the drop, so that's why they're doing it like this.
Only reason I want it is to add my MTA unlocks to it lol did Master Wand before log. Wonder if it would fill in all slots or just the Master Wand
I’m an old iron man and this would make me extremely happy. Yes please
Support! I used to be a grey helm and would've loved this. Now I'm a booger helm playing with the boys and know it won't apply to me but still want it for the original irons.
My eternal glory log would count?
It's a great idea IMO. I abandoned my ironman account when the collection log was introduced without this feature. It felt like all my completed grinds were invalidated, whether you personally think that's stupid or not. I would get straight back into the game if this retroactive thing was introduced.
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The tweet literally says the logbook predates GIM so it wouldn't apply
oh true never mind lol 😂
Would fill out a ton of clue logs for me, and i think it would greenlog barrows, so this would be awesome
Yes, please! I have barrows gear that I got before the log and it bothers me that it's not unlocked.
an iron account *is* a collection log. that's like....the point. if it's on the account they got it as a drop lol.
What about items like cut onyx from Tekton? You can use one on the log and it will say you got it from Tekton? I’m sure there are others just one that came to mind
I like what Husky is doing here, and it just makes sense to allow irons to add items to their clog that they already obtained. Let’s not forget that they undoubtedly already obtained the item, this just avoids them having to get the items again, to what… prove for a second time that they obtained an item on an account that can’t trade with other players..? Solid update in my view (and I play GIM so I don’t have skin in this game).
Mains chose not to limit themselves. Seems fair to me
Why not figure out a way for mains also, then? It's kind of unfair. They should still go through with it, obviously, but it sucks that a main still has to do the same grind to get the log slot. It's not like getting the drop naturally is any different.
It's impossible for mains because there's no record of who got what item from back then.
Shouldve been like this from the start, there are 0 arguments against it
I can see an issue with a lot of items: Dragon pick, Onyx cut and uncut Mint cake, Obsidian armor, cape and weapons Gotr dyes Granite body And probably a bunch im forgetting E: this reason i am against the use of items on the book. The rest i'm a ok with
Tbh, those just shouldn't be issues and just work with the clog as is... The clog already works for some items that come from shops for say minigames.