Apparently an openly homosexual foreign minister married to an Ecuadorian man-candy is peak national socialism. The foreign minister is a vegetarian btw, just like Hitler.
Checkmate commie-nazis
Haha this song indeed reflects Russian internal politics in the nutshell. European Union and NATO- new Fourth Reich while The Baltics+ Finland are Russophobic af according to them đđ
"Ryssä" is derogatory term for Russian in finnish, "Venäläinen" would be the word normally used to mean Russian, though using "ryssä" is gaining popularity.
Probably not what you were looking for, but specifically the part quoted below is about Russia: [https://youtu.be/F5zg\_af9b8c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPmSv-TBy0)
>Finland, arise, for to the world thou criest
>
>that thou hast thrown off thy slavery,
>
>beneath oppression's yoke thou never liest.
>
>Thy morning's come, O Finland of ours!
[https://finland.fi/arts-culture/finlandia-by-jean-sibelius/](https://finland.fi/arts-culture/finlandia-by-jean-sibelius/)
What are the shameless double-standards exactly? Is there something along the lines of, I don't know, Russians now fleeing Crimea crying about "I don't want to leave everything behind" while having resided on stolen land and others homes?
Dumbasses with no fucking logic is all I can say.
Russian whataboutism? The US goes around forcing democracy on countries that it pleases to have an influence and the movement against it predates 9-11, my life and perhaps even yours
US doing bad things doesnât justify Russia doing bad things. That we can agree on
But itâs a valid criticism that the US is in no place to think itself better than Russia or criticize their actions
I dont understand why you bring anything about the usa here when the OP is talking about ruskis. Its always the same, Russia is invading a country buuuuut the usaaaaa
Russia is always invading a country, sure. But I didnât bring them into this conversation, the person I was replying to did.
And shall I remind you that the US invaded the Indian American lands, then Spanish Mexico, Vietnam, Libya, Afghanistan. That list is not even exhausting. The US is ALWAYS at war except for when itâs at war with itself.
My whole point here is that while Russia is one big asshole, the US is also a major contender for the titleâŚ
And when the usa does something wrong is and must criticized, i agree with your point there but bringing issues with other countries and comparing them feels like a way to dilute the current thread.
Fascism isn't on the political right. It is a center-movement with xenophobic and authoritarian ideals.
To disagree with this is to not know history and what economic policies fascism stood for.
National socialism. Neither of these are economically right ideas.
Naziâs are a subbranch of fascism, while fascism is definitely socially right wing we see in say Mussolini regime that left wing economic ideals can be used. But in the modern day there are very little left wing fascists and I guess thereâs also very little of any fascists
Neither China nor Russia are fascist, fascist is not a term to be used lightly. Concentration camps are not a uniquely fascist thing either they have been prevalent throughout dictatorial and fascists states along with more democratic states. Russia definitely has some aspects that could be compared to fascist ideals but to cal them fascist is a disservice of the word fascist and itâs meanings
I donât know man china does a lot of things similar to fascism
- authoritarian, totalitarian rule
- nationalism
- state corporatism
- anti individualism and anti religion
>(like germany) didnt
Oh the Nazis certainly supported religion, however that support was limited to either the Lutheran church in Germany, or the extremely fringe German church
Authoritarian rule is not unique to fascism we see it in all kinds of nations. Nationalism is definitely a very prominent part of fascism and state capitalism is completely unrelated to fascism even if some fascist regimes used it itâs because it works well not because of fascism. Most fascist regimes had many ties to religion such as Mussolini ties to the Vatican and anti/individualism is a trait of fascism but also of many authoritarian regimes such as communism
So just because other ideologies have similiar things it just conpletely disqualifies fascism? Despite fascism having all of them. Also actually state CORPORATISM is related to fascism even seeing how it is quite literally one of the main things necessary in a fascist state. Also the point about anti individualism and it having it in common with communism might be correct to a degree it is important to remember that they believed that for two completely different reasons, as communism believed that all where equal and individualism would corrupt that where as fascism believed that individualism was simply a threat to the states power.
Another thing is the religious point does not mean a fascist state canât have religion, the religion must just not have more influence or be a threat to the power of the regime.
Finally when that has all been tollied i find it hard to call China anything but fascist as it is not communist (despite calling itself), it is not libertarian, and it is not a monarchy, theocracy or technocracy, but if you believe that it is not fascist, then go ahead, what is it then? It has to be something.
yeah, i think in general fascism is right wing politics, because that's in my experience what it is,
the nazis were far right, the fascist party in Italy was far right, and the people celebrating fascism in Charlottesville were far right
I don't know about Fascism per se, but I think most experts agree that Nazism was a far right movement.
This was recently a discussion in Denmark as a far right politician said that Nazism was a leftis movment and a fact checking website (a pretty respected one AFAIK) [decided to check it](https://www.tjekdet.dk/faktatjek/var-nazisterne-venstreorienterede).
Everyone of the experts they spoke to (I think it was mostly university proffessers) said that if you had to pin Nazism on a politicla scale it would be on the far right. They also said that it's pretty hard to pin them on a traditional scale though, as Nazism is just mostly characterized by being extreme/outside mainstream thinking.
Yes youâre right, but even though they didnât try to bring back the monarchy they definitely played this card to get the votes in the beginning. They definitely promised some form of regime again that most âpro-monarchsâ liked. Not to mention their plans to get Germany out of its deep state of shame again. Therefore I would like to argue that some, as you described them as âconservativeâ, ideas certainly were mixed in.
Thatâs true, that was more or less what I was going at.
Even though I am not completely convinced that they were only lying to them in that regard. Of course they didnât want to bring back the monarchy but they more or less did build a very similar regime especially since they were everything but a democracy.
Yes. You cannot place a ideology like fascism on a left right political scale because it just doesnt fit. Nazism isn't absolute economic liberalism so putting them in the far right is detrimental to peoples undrstanding of politics.
Russia? The country with the highest rate of domestic violence in Europe, being sexist? *Never*
~~before some Russian starts accusing me, Iâm Karelian and have several friends who immigrated from Russia, and I was even president of my Uniâs Russian language club. All of my Russian friends agree that Russia as a whole is fucked up and the people are fed delusions from their restrictive media~~
I was going to say that it makes more sense to just charge them more for visa fees to extract as much money as possible from Russia, and then give that money to Ukraine.
But this seems to have them BĂG MĂD so I now support it.
I think the sanction is more because "we do not want a lot of citizens of an unfriendly country, that threatens to send us to oblivion every month or so, to roam freely and take pictures of nice potential targets".
We had in Estonia the Bronzenight troubles. Something similar is brewing thanks to government's policy to take down every soviet meorial.
P.S. I agree that we do not need statues to the same men, who occupied us, bombed our cities, pillaged our land and raped as they saw fit.
I totally get it. I'm in Finland right now and yeah, who needs 'em? They're always buying property suspiciously close to military bases and funding tabloids like MVLehti which actively calls for the extirpation of the Finnish state.
The hypocrisy of complaining about supposed "nazis" in other countries' governments and telling people at the same time to vote for actual far-right politicians in elections is astounding. Reddit should honestly just ban these propaganda accounts permanently. It would make the world a better place.
They think they make Europe better, then starts invade their neighbor and every Europen Country sacrions Russia. They think we love them, they think we want them. No, Europe is better without Russia
Vote AfD to get rid of Nazism? They are seriously retards.
AfD of Germany is the very example of a party with Nazism/far-right as their ideology, they don't even deny it.
"Only the Afd can save us from these people wishing to destroy Europe" LMAOOOOO AFD is pretty anti- EU
Also is r/russia privated because i can't access it
> The "leaders" of these countries, who happen to be women, are among the most deplorable and stupid in the world wishing to destroy everything that made the west good.
True statement based on false reasoning, the grade is F.
Lmfao we are all Nazis according to moskals.
Apparently an openly homosexual foreign minister married to an Ecuadorian man-candy is peak national socialism. The foreign minister is a vegetarian btw, just like Hitler. Checkmate commie-nazis
Man-candy you say? Who is that foreign minister, I'm asking for a rrmmm foreign policy friend.
Foreign minister of Finland
[Here](https://www.google.com/search?q=pekka+haavisto+ja+antonio+flores&sxsrf=ALiCzsZD1F0kea76w37TN9p0NyrdawzXgQ:1660296788981&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiusdDC_8D5AhXklIsKHdyPDZMQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1920&bih=979&dpr=1.5)
Making moskals seethe gives me such joy.
Projection all the way down.
Hijacking the top comment: [Relevant video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY&ab_channel=RustyCage)
Haha this song indeed reflects Russian internal politics in the nutshell. European Union and NATO- new Fourth Reich while The Baltics+ Finland are Russophobic af according to them đđ
they are not wrong tho we are russophobic all have had land taken illegally from them so.
but ofcourse
The proverb âryssä on aina ryssä, vaikka voissa paistasâ seems correct in every period of history.
Translation: "a russian is always a russian, even if cooked in butter". It's closer to: "Once X always X"
*Translation:* "a ruski is always a ruski, even if cooked in butter".
"Ryssä" is derogatory term for Russian in finnish, "Venäläinen" would be the word normally used to mean Russian, though using "ryssä" is gaining popularity.
Based and ryssä on ryssä pilled
And I thought Scots were weird for deep-frying candy bars.
âRyssäâ is a noun. Means russian. Ryssiä, however, is verb, meaning âto fuck upâ. Anyone wanna take any guesses whatâs the relation?
Everything I heard: Finland will send 1,000 tons of weapon-grade butter to Ukraine.
Healthiest dish in Glasgow (Deep fried Mars bar with heroin filling) đ
"Voi on voita, vaikka ryssän siinä paistaisi".
Hmm
Isn't there a finish song about Russians? I can't find it
Which one?
Yes
Silmien välin
Silmien väliin ryssää, kyllä se siihen tyssää. Silmien väliin silmien väliin silmien väliin ryssää jo
Silmien välliin?
Yes, thank you
https://youtu.be/uMszu_VgMfY
Is not about russians.
Probably not what you were looking for, but specifically the part quoted below is about Russia: [https://youtu.be/F5zg\_af9b8c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPmSv-TBy0) >Finland, arise, for to the world thou criest > >that thou hast thrown off thy slavery, > >beneath oppression's yoke thou never liest. > >Thy morning's come, O Finland of ours! [https://finland.fi/arts-culture/finlandia-by-jean-sibelius/](https://finland.fi/arts-culture/finlandia-by-jean-sibelius/)
If your country is so great and ours so bad why would you even want to come here?
We make better cheese
Sissijuustoađ¤¤
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Sitä voi onneksi tehdä ite. đđ¤¤
Kyllä munajuustoakin tehdään itse
Oil sanctions: Russians schleep Oltermanni sanction: **real shit???**
Russian cheese is incredibly shit
What are the shameless double-standards exactly? Is there something along the lines of, I don't know, Russians now fleeing Crimea crying about "I don't want to leave everything behind" while having resided on stolen land and others homes? Dumbasses with no fucking logic is all I can say.
Shameless double-standards meaning probably the general russian what aboutism regarding USA doing shit in the middle east or where ever.
Russian whataboutism? The US goes around forcing democracy on countries that it pleases to have an influence and the movement against it predates 9-11, my life and perhaps even yours
Yes Russian whataboutism. US doing bad things doesn't justify Russia doing bad things.
US doing bad things doesnât justify Russia doing bad things. That we can agree on But itâs a valid criticism that the US is in no place to think itself better than Russia or criticize their actions
I dont understand why you bring anything about the usa here when the OP is talking about ruskis. Its always the same, Russia is invading a country buuuuut the usaaaaa
Russia is always invading a country, sure. But I didnât bring them into this conversation, the person I was replying to did. And shall I remind you that the US invaded the Indian American lands, then Spanish Mexico, Vietnam, Libya, Afghanistan. That list is not even exhausting. The US is ALWAYS at war except for when itâs at war with itself. My whole point here is that while Russia is one big asshole, the US is also a major contender for the titleâŚ
And when the usa does something wrong is and must criticized, i agree with your point there but bringing issues with other countries and comparing them feels like a way to dilute the current thread.
If everyone is the nazi you are the nazi
"No! I must kill the demons" he shouted The radio said "No, John. You are the demons" And then John was a zombie. \-DOOM: Repercussions of evil
>The nazis have taken over >You need to vote far right Who will tell them?
If you do double line break it'll format properly! And yeah it's hilarious
Fascism isn't on the political right. It is a center-movement with xenophobic and authoritarian ideals. To disagree with this is to not know history and what economic policies fascism stood for. National socialism. Neither of these are economically right ideas.
On wikipedia (best source there ever was): "The Nazi party, officially the National Socialist German Worker's Party, was a far-right political party"
Naziâs are a subbranch of fascism, while fascism is definitely socially right wing we see in say Mussolini regime that left wing economic ideals can be used. But in the modern day there are very little left wing fascists and I guess thereâs also very little of any fascists
i wouldnt say theres very little fascism today, china literally has concentration camps and Russia is, well, Russia
Russia has their own version of concentration camps for POWs and forcibly deported Ukrainians. Look up the filtration camps.
Neither China nor Russia are fascist, fascist is not a term to be used lightly. Concentration camps are not a uniquely fascist thing either they have been prevalent throughout dictatorial and fascists states along with more democratic states. Russia definitely has some aspects that could be compared to fascist ideals but to cal them fascist is a disservice of the word fascist and itâs meanings
I donât know man china does a lot of things similar to fascism - authoritarian, totalitarian rule - nationalism - state corporatism - anti individualism and anti religion
>and anti religion Pretty sure many European fascist regimes supported religion in some capacity
Some did (like italy and spain), whilst others (like germany) didnt
>(like germany) didnt Oh the Nazis certainly supported religion, however that support was limited to either the Lutheran church in Germany, or the extremely fringe German church
Authoritarian rule is not unique to fascism we see it in all kinds of nations. Nationalism is definitely a very prominent part of fascism and state capitalism is completely unrelated to fascism even if some fascist regimes used it itâs because it works well not because of fascism. Most fascist regimes had many ties to religion such as Mussolini ties to the Vatican and anti/individualism is a trait of fascism but also of many authoritarian regimes such as communism
So just because other ideologies have similiar things it just conpletely disqualifies fascism? Despite fascism having all of them. Also actually state CORPORATISM is related to fascism even seeing how it is quite literally one of the main things necessary in a fascist state. Also the point about anti individualism and it having it in common with communism might be correct to a degree it is important to remember that they believed that for two completely different reasons, as communism believed that all where equal and individualism would corrupt that where as fascism believed that individualism was simply a threat to the states power. Another thing is the religious point does not mean a fascist state canât have religion, the religion must just not have more influence or be a threat to the power of the regime. Finally when that has all been tollied i find it hard to call China anything but fascist as it is not communist (despite calling itself), it is not libertarian, and it is not a monarchy, theocracy or technocracy, but if you believe that it is not fascist, then go ahead, what is it then? It has to be something.
It depends on particular party and if you mean economic or cultural right
Yes, far right in the way we've come to bastardize the meaning. Fascism and nazism can't be placed on a normal left-right spectrum
while it is true that fascism can be left wing, the vast majority is with far right white supremacists type guys
When you say far right you once again go back to thinking fascism is right politics. Far right, in the actual left-right scale is libertarianism.
yeah, i think in general fascism is right wing politics, because that's in my experience what it is, the nazis were far right, the fascist party in Italy was far right, and the people celebrating fascism in Charlottesville were far right
I don't know about Fascism per se, but I think most experts agree that Nazism was a far right movement. This was recently a discussion in Denmark as a far right politician said that Nazism was a leftis movment and a fact checking website (a pretty respected one AFAIK) [decided to check it](https://www.tjekdet.dk/faktatjek/var-nazisterne-venstreorienterede). Everyone of the experts they spoke to (I think it was mostly university proffessers) said that if you had to pin Nazism on a politicla scale it would be on the far right. They also said that it's pretty hard to pin them on a traditional scale though, as Nazism is just mostly characterized by being extreme/outside mainstream thinking.
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Yes youâre right, but even though they didnât try to bring back the monarchy they definitely played this card to get the votes in the beginning. They definitely promised some form of regime again that most âpro-monarchsâ liked. Not to mention their plans to get Germany out of its deep state of shame again. Therefore I would like to argue that some, as you described them as âconservativeâ, ideas certainly were mixed in.
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Thatâs true, that was more or less what I was going at. Even though I am not completely convinced that they were only lying to them in that regard. Of course they didnât want to bring back the monarchy but they more or less did build a very similar regime especially since they were everything but a democracy.
Yes. You cannot place a ideology like fascism on a left right political scale because it just doesnt fit. Nazism isn't absolute economic liberalism so putting them in the far right is detrimental to peoples undrstanding of politics.
That depends on whether you use a single- or multi-dimensional model.
It depends on particular party and if you mean economic or cultural right
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You can be communist and still be both xenophobic and authoritarian...
It depends on particular party and if you mean economic or cultural right
That doesn't make sense
And fascism isn't the same thing as nazism so what does it have to do with it? They might have similarities but still.
Nazism is based in fascism with antisemitism sprinkled in.
Death to russia đż
This time I can happily declare that I agree with a Swedistani
Itâs strange that you true Swedes donât agree more with us Swedistanis
true swedes??????
Yes. It is a common mistake that people think you as a swedes instead of swedistanis. Ăstra rikshalvan is the real Sweden
The fuck
Based
Why is it important that our leaders are women
Cause in their idiotic brains "woman=bad"
Are you saying they might...they might be sexist?đŚ
Russia? The country with the highest rate of domestic violence in Europe, being sexist? *Never* ~~before some Russian starts accusing me, Iâm Karelian and have several friends who immigrated from Russia, and I was even president of my Uniâs Russian language club. All of my Russian friends agree that Russia as a whole is fucked up and the people are fed delusions from their restrictive media~~
I don't think you need a disclaimer when calling out Russian domestic violence. I mean the bastards legalized it
Domestic violence is not inherently sexist âď¸
Because they are misogynists
They fear our mongolian warrior queen đŞđŞđŞđŤđŽđ˛đł
Thanks to you I just imagine her throat singing while riding a horse.
because women are seen as weak leaders in Putistan.
Vote for the Nazis to save us from the Nazis
Far rightâ nazi
Russian election intervention coming soon
Boy I sure do wonder which party they're gonna help out
I was going to say that it makes more sense to just charge them more for visa fees to extract as much money as possible from Russia, and then give that money to Ukraine. But this seems to have them BĂG MĂD so I now support it.
I think the sanction is more because "we do not want a lot of citizens of an unfriendly country, that threatens to send us to oblivion every month or so, to roam freely and take pictures of nice potential targets". We had in Estonia the Bronzenight troubles. Something similar is brewing thanks to government's policy to take down every soviet meorial. P.S. I agree that we do not need statues to the same men, who occupied us, bombed our cities, pillaged our land and raped as they saw fit.
I totally get it. I'm in Finland right now and yeah, who needs 'em? They're always buying property suspiciously close to military bases and funding tabloids like MVLehti which actively calls for the extirpation of the Finnish state.
>Claims to hate nazis >Advocates for the voting of Alt-Right nazis Irony of a moskal orc
Smartest Russian?
I unironically dislike Russia
who doesn't
Most controversial opinion in 2nordic4u
we all do jimbo
Always do the opposite of what R\*ssians want.
You're a nazi! You're a nazi! Everyone's a nazi!
They Nazis are taking over. We must prevent this by voting for the far-right???
The hypocrisy of complaining about supposed "nazis" in other countries' governments and telling people at the same time to vote for actual far-right politicians in elections is astounding. Reddit should honestly just ban these propaganda accounts permanently. It would make the world a better place.
"Ryssä on ryssä, vaikka voissa paistais" "A russkie's a russkie, even if you fry one in butter" or something like that in English
Least obvious Putin propaganda post.
orcs being orcs
We need to stop nazism so let's vote for nazis and also we're not regressive but women suck am I right?
They think they make Europe better, then starts invade their neighbor and every Europen Country sacrions Russia. They think we love them, they think we want them. No, Europe is better without Russia
Vote AfD to get rid of Nazism? They are seriously retards. AfD of Germany is the very example of a party with Nazism/far-right as their ideology, they don't even deny it.
Cope and seethe vatniks.
Removed by Reddit.. lol.. looks like this is the only free undesired group out here
I'm beginning to think these Russian fellas are not the nicest of people.
If you see moon Nazis everywhere, you should consider escaping the simulation đŽđ¤đ¨âđť
https://youtu.be/nlHrCDjTCiI
"Only the Afd can save us from these people wishing to destroy Europe" LMAOOOOO AFD is pretty anti- EU Also is r/russia privated because i can't access it
Yeah they say that everyone is a nazi and then say that Germans need to vote for literal neo nazis
Sub's quarantined, as it should be. Let them drown in their echo chamber of madness.
Should we tell them about the Wagner group?
Wait, how is voting for the actual nazi party doing something against nazis?
Says the real nazis of Russia and their lovers.
Lmfao voting AfD to get rid of nazis is like extinguishing a burning building with petrol.
"Wahh wahh you are Nazi's!!!!1! Please vote for the wannabe Nazi's!!!!!!!!" - Russia
Wait so the way to fix the eu is to leave the eu or am i reading wrong?
paid a visit in that subreddit and holy sh*t it was bad.
There's no other shithole like Russia.
https://youtu.be/MAFxDdl78Ik
The only thing this propagandist deserves is my worn out shoe đđđđđ
Russkies fear the Finns and Estonians.
Russian nazis are trying to take over Ukraine
Oh yeah let's stop the Nazis by voting for the far right lmao
they want us to vote far right because those are the politicians backed by russia
âAll Europeans are Nazisâ 2 sentences later... âPlease vote for a neo nazi party in Germanyâ
Last time i checked it it was one or two guys doing same posts.
"Nazis" otsikossa sai minut jo dissaamaan screenshotin, joskin sen luin.
Hah, I'm reading a good book called Putin's trolls rn, written by Jessikka Aro, a finn. Always relevent
Yes very big näzi and rus very mäd đ
> The "leaders" of these countries, who happen to be women, are among the most deplorable and stupid in the world wishing to destroy everything that made the west good. True statement based on false reasoning, the grade is F.
We should all take each other by the hand and think of flowers
https://images.app.goo.gl/vhrS16kHJ1fsGDsC7
People confusing far right with nazism in this comment section is funny and sad at the same time
One thing all of us nordicks can agree on is that Russians can burn in hell
Itke asiasta
âThe nazis are taking over! To solve this, vote for the far right!â Riiight
German here, If I see anybody voting for the AfD, I dmack em. They realy think that pinwheels are dangerous for our lands
EINIGKEIT
Id be a nazi to simp for sanna marin with cat ears
Moskals arent true rusgols