As long as they are yours and not your Jewish neighbor's it's fine. The Seppos forced us to implement some laws against tax evasion and money laundering, which could get you in problems if the bank finds out they are not your gold teeth and paintings.
Oh with the Halbierungsinitiative in the pipeline SRF will hopefully make sure not to spend any unnecessary money on this event, because this is exactly the type of money waste the advocates against Serafe are talking about.
Although I really hope they fuck it up.
Edit: Apparently SRF doesn‘t want to hold back on spending, as to their newest media communications.
This is what Europe ia about if something is happening in Europe you can trust that Switzerland will save us by not being involved. PRAISE THE MOUNTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Armenia was the only act that used the 360 degrease crowd/stage effectively. The rest just performed with their arse to one side of the crowd for the entire performance.
Switzerland won because they secretly know Europe is about to be engulfed in WW3 and Switzerland will be the only safe place to host the next year's edition.
Something, something, representing your country.
Also in the spirit of neutrality don't decide for a genre. And choose a neutral position between an extravagant show and just a solid gig.
Seems Nemo cracked the ESC-code.
It was just an unoriginal Rammstein copy. They mixed several Rammstein songs. Sonething like that should never win. Our contestant's song was also hugely copied and we rightfully only got 24 points and we should've gotten 0 together with Croatia.
Estonia deserved way more. Politics aside - israel was so boring i'm surprised it got so many votes. Ireland was a banger, Armenia was a banger. Kinda feel like our Lithuania boy should've gotten more votes, but I won't complain.
I didn't really understand why France or Italy were so high.
Unfortumate for Netherlands and Suomi boys.
Greece was a little cringy
“Ireland a banger”?? I don’t believe what I read. I can understand you find the performance entertaining, but you can’t be serious if you say it is a good song.
If a 20 year old israeli girl is only able to participate under heavy security measures, something is wrong and giving her support is more than justified. It’s a sign that a decade old conflict between a terrorist organization and a far right israeli government shouldn’t be fought with violence 1000s of kilometers away at a laughable music event.
Eurovision isn't supposed to be about politics, especially not about a 3000+ years long conflict.
Are we now going to give olympic gold medals in the coming olympic games based on how active any country is at war at present?
The Olympics is just as political as Eurovision let’s not give the Olympics too much credit. Dictatorships have regularly used the Olympics to make a political statement for example Nazi Germany. The Olympics have regularly been boycotted by the US or the Soviet Union to make a political Statement. The Olympics is always followed by massive protests you should read and watch about the different persons that run with the Olympic flame how many times they are attacked by protesters and how many times the Olympic flame is extinguished because of these protests. The reason why you do not hear about this is because the media is more silent on this matter and ignores it.
So many Sports events and they decided to choose the one which was so political that all wars would be temporarily stopped so that the participants would be prepared for them. The event that was used for propaganda during the entire Cold War and in 1936, the one which didn't allow a country to participate because of their apartheid policies (South Africa) definitely isn't political
> Eurovision isn't supposed to be about politics, especially not about a 3000+ years long conflict.
I mean yeah. But why was that girl constantly booed then, had to stay in the hotel most of the time and received idiotic interview questions like if she feels guilty that she is endangering the other artists by the virtue of just being there and participating?
And let us be honest - had to protesters outside been there to protest against the non-binary contestants and a journalist had asked whether the Swiss contestant feels guilty about endangering the other contestants people would have lost their minds and yelled “victim blaming” etc. and that would have been justified.
Here? Crickets!
Of course she shouldn't be threatened while being there (even though Israel should've been banned from even entering), but let's not kid ourselves about her stance, she supports the Israeli government and what they're doing in Gaza while also having stated that she's joining the IDF after Eurovision.
She’s joining the IDF because that’s what every Israeli has to do. They have mandatory military service. except some of the ultraorthodox ones, and even that exception is heavily debated right now.
And Israel doesn’t fuck around with the draft. Here in Germany it was trivial to be exempted from service with a doctors note. In Israel it’s almost impossible to get out of unless you’re already in a wheelchair or a mental asylum.
Doesn’t Israel literally have mandatory military service for men and women? Also how do you know she votes for likud or some other far right party? It’s obvious that an Israeli would support the war to exterminate a terrorist group that made the biggest terrorist attack in her countries history.
>a decade old conflict between a terrorist organization and a far right israeli government shouldn’t be fought with violence 1000s of kilometers away at a laughable music event.
Don't you see that you're doing exactly that and making ESC about that political conflict by giving her support because of it?
Also, did you know her song was explicitly nationalistic and the ESC asked her to rewrite it to be less political?
Mf, I specifically said POLITICS ASIDE. I don't care about the conflict, I'm saying that her performance was dull and overly generic and ass. That's the reason I think israel didn't deserve as many votes as it did.
Her being the representative for a country that's in deep shit over a conflict is not reason enough for her personal safety to be compromised I agree, but it's not reason enough to give her so many pity points either.
This is not a political dick measuring tourney, this is supposed to be a song contest, at least put some effort into pretending that it is
There are alot of people that vote for Israel no matter what, even to the point of making multiple accounts etc to vote for them.
Get them the fuck out of Eurovision.
What it’s shown is that what people actually believe and the side they’re on and what those with institutional power and cunty protestors would label wrongthink are one and the same. As far as I’m concerned, that’s more important to me than some Eurovision vote.
There’s no hiding it any more, even if they want to pretend now people know that not everyone hates Israelis just because they’re told to. I think we will see an actual shift in societal attitudes because of that.
I'd rather croatia get it but Switzerland was pretty great too. Israel getting all those points was a bit sussy, and portugal getting scraps was pretty sad, but at least we didnt get 0 (sorry barry)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you're anti Israel you can't vote against them. If you're pro Israel you can give them 20 votes. I don't think it's suspicious at all, it's just the nature of the voting system.
Yeah, this is the first year I'm really happy about having the jury. People voting for the most politically controversial candidate is not a good system.
On the same note, I think that's why they moved so quickly to ban the Netherlands. They would have gotten the anti-Israel vote. That might be even more people. Winning because of that would have been equally stupid.
Not really about that last part, the anti-Israel vote has one of two characteristics:
a- Voting for ANYTHING besides Israel
b- Voting for artists that are actively anti-Israel/Pro Palestine (ie. Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Switzerland, Netherlands)
While Pro Israel votes are... Vote Israel -> profit
Joost Klein wasn’t anti-Israel or pro-palestine. All he did regarding this topic was asking “why not” when the person from the organisation said to the Israeli singer that she didn’t need to answer a difficult question in the press conference. The reason he got disqualified had nothing to do with Israel. ([Source in Dutch](https://www.ad.nl/songfestival/cornald-maas-woedend-over-diskwalificatie-joost-klein-f-ck-the-ebu~afd909fa/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F))
Switzerland is neutral : slay the house down unproblematic queen. We need countries like you to take the moral high ground.
Ireland is neutral: anti-Semitic cowards don’t you have a famine to die in?
My man if flamboyant and gay coded performances are "degenerate" to you, you shouldn't be around Eurovision, and the fact you think it's somewhat a new trend while ABBA won 50 years ago , clueless.
It's a competition about music but also about not giving much of a fuck and having fun, but I understand how a Bavarian German wouldn't get those concepts.
I think he was joking. Nazi Germany pre ww2 did an expo of "degenerate art" , for contemporary art they deemed insulting (In case you're being serious, if not, sorry for the art history snippet) .
Can someone explain me why Israel got so many votes from the public? All the songs sounded equally terrible to me and i thought Israel wasnt very liked
When everyone's fighting, Switzerland ends up being the winner. History really does repeat itself
It's funny cause it's true
Can confirm, i secured my family Goldbars and paintings in a swiss vault. You know out of habbit
As long as they are yours and not your Jewish neighbor's it's fine. The Seppos forced us to implement some laws against tax evasion and money laundering, which could get you in problems if the bank finds out they are not your gold teeth and paintings.
>As long as they are yours and not your Jewish neighbor's it's fine. From the river to the sea, all your gold belongs to me
Look, I have a sensitive gums. It's not my vault.. I mean fault that I needed 31850 gold teeth before I got some that fit in.
Are they yours? Come on Fritz be honest
No gold this time, its some shitty crystal award. Europe learned.
That they immediately dropped and broke
At least we know their mic was truly on as the *clinck* was rather loud, lol
Clearly not crystal but regular chinesium since it broke after 2 minutes.
Even better
Fixed, even the stage was shaped like a plus
The news is that they are competing in something
Yeah right, mist of the times we just win without competition. Thanks for the experience guys ❤️
Neutral country, neutral gender, I was a little disappointed that they weren't very understated and neutral when it was announced that they won.
Neutral about gender too. That's commitment.
"my pronouns are 'make/money'."
or get/gold
underrated comment
I'm so looking forward to Switzerland hosting. No idea what to expect.
Expect your wallet to feel it
Oh I'm not going. I was ready for Zagreb but I think I'm too poor for this one.
Well since the tv tax in swiss land has gone dramatically down in the past ten years cause DEMOCRACY, expect a smaller, less extravagant ESC
Oh with the Halbierungsinitiative in the pipeline SRF will hopefully make sure not to spend any unnecessary money on this event, because this is exactly the type of money waste the advocates against Serafe are talking about. Although I really hope they fuck it up. Edit: Apparently SRF doesn‘t want to hold back on spending, as to their newest media communications.
I mean last time we went way over budget and spend around 45 million euros, it was the second most expensive show ever.
I can only hope. Such a thing would definitely sway people to vote for halfing the SRF (public broadcast company) budget.
Sounds great.
Cheese. Lots of Cheese.
Remember, it's not about the winning. It's about making all those other cunts' lives miserable
No it's about having fun participating. Oh wait...
#justiceforjoost
Made me chuckle, lowland German, thank you
I'm the last one to say this but you won.
Now we can all live in peace, thank you swiss femboy
The Swiss and the Lithuanian twinks this year were top notch, 10/10
He is clearly a bottom gay, not sure why they have to go and invent genders to compete in a music festival
To be fair, unlike sex, all genders are invented
Yeah there are only two sexes, the sex I had with your dad, and the sex I had with your mom happy mother's day.
"Side switcher" yeah, it checks out
Sex is invented too, by Greeks. Romans discovered it was possible with women too
Did that guy just break the trophy?
[удалено]
I think both Nemo and the trophy are made of glass I was hoping the guy didn’t fall from that parabolic platform thingy
Microwave fr
How could he break the „Gilmore Girls, Season 3“ DVD??
Is he Lando Norris? Then yes, he did.
This is truly a Sergio Ramos moment
https://preview.redd.it/s9xseqwbhzzc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f3e8a3afd5957094bb026384baf7d66e87ce3ff
It’s on the EBU for commissioning it from Wish
This is what Europe ia about if something is happening in Europe you can trust that Switzerland will save us by not being involved. PRAISE THE MOUNTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are the mountain, Swiss is the bank🏦
What are we then? The Lidl?
The Aldi
North or South?
Yes
>Switzerland will save us by not being involed Thankfully, their public vote gave Israel 12 points!
Most countries had that. (Most) people that voted on Israel voted with a completely different resson then everyone else
the like 300+ point jump killed me i swear
I still don't know why that happened
If you look at how many points Ukraine got as well, overall it was as political as always.
As usual, we won a match we didn't even know we were playing
I'm suprised people aren't talking more about armenia. I really liked them.
Armenia was the only act that used the 360 degrease crowd/stage effectively. The rest just performed with their arse to one side of the crowd for the entire performance.
Same I found the song to be really unique and impulsive. one of the few songs I would really listen to in private
Switzerland won because they secretly know Europe is about to be engulfed in WW3 and Switzerland will be the only safe place to host the next year's edition.
Oh God, I didn’t like how realistic this sounds…
A country so neutral even it's contender can't decide on a gender.
Something, something, representing your country. Also in the spirit of neutrality don't decide for a genre. And choose a neutral position between an extravagant show and just a solid gig. Seems Nemo cracked the ESC-code.
Atleast we got the best ending.
Fuck yea! Last place ftw RAAAAH🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴
Germany in shambles.
I still can't believe it, we worked so hard to be the last again, my week is ruined.
We specifically picked some random street musician, why the hell was he this good? We really fell off
Ah. You overestimate the musical level of the contest. A clear mistake.
I don't know, Dieter Capaldi had a good voice. Don't think Germany can bottom the Stefan Raab entry, so were yous really trying?
I didn't watch it. Where we at last in the bottom 5?
No, somehow we got 12 with 117 points.
A shameful display, we will work harder for last place next time
Bad year. Is it really Eurovision if we don't end up under the Bottom 5? We should send some German rapper next time.
Honestly can’t believe we ended up in the upper half. What went wrong?
Your song was too good. To be honest the German song this year was quite okay.
You probably dont care but norway was most definitely not the worst out of every one spain or england deserves that place
At least England got 0 votes from the public 😁
But they chose a horrible clip for the re-runs
Your song was good, you were robbed
Finland lost again! Time to burn Toblerones! (JK. Plz never stop making them!)
Thanks got. Now I don't have to explain it to my Balkan family about it.
I have no strong feelings about this whatsoever.
Was rooting for Europapa and am disgusted he got DSQ, ngl
Fr, it was the first Eurovision song that is actually about Europe, and open borders and the different cultures. Such a shame.
Politically neutral, gender neutral but definitely a huge slay
Croatia deserved it smh
The people's champions
It was just an unoriginal Rammstein copy. They mixed several Rammstein songs. Sonething like that should never win. Our contestant's song was also hugely copied and we rightfully only got 24 points and we should've gotten 0 together with Croatia.
"we will rave" was not only copied but it was fucking horrendous too tbh
See, it's not 'they'. Unlike EVERY other contestant, this guy got to second place by writing a song all by himself.
as a Rammstein fan, no it's absolutely not original music, it's a mix of 3-4 Rammstein songs
I really liked it, may you tell me precisely which 3/4 Rammstein sing it copied.
the refrain is copied by ich will, the main rhythm from du hast
Nah Finland was robbed
Estonia deserved way more. Politics aside - israel was so boring i'm surprised it got so many votes. Ireland was a banger, Armenia was a banger. Kinda feel like our Lithuania boy should've gotten more votes, but I won't complain. I didn't really understand why France or Italy were so high. Unfortumate for Netherlands and Suomi boys. Greece was a little cringy
FR ESTONIA WAS GREAT WHERE WERE ALL THE VOTES 😭
fr i thought lithuania brought a real dancefloor banger
“Ireland a banger”?? I don’t believe what I read. I can understand you find the performance entertaining, but you can’t be serious if you say it is a good song.
🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ If that horseshit of a song is a banger... if I speak Im in big trouble
If a 20 year old israeli girl is only able to participate under heavy security measures, something is wrong and giving her support is more than justified. It’s a sign that a decade old conflict between a terrorist organization and a far right israeli government shouldn’t be fought with violence 1000s of kilometers away at a laughable music event.
Eurovision isn't supposed to be about politics, especially not about a 3000+ years long conflict. Are we now going to give olympic gold medals in the coming olympic games based on how active any country is at war at present?
https://preview.redd.it/aabwn8lyyxzc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27bf3fb68fc77fc31ea8a196a511a65900f668b1
The Olympics is just as political as Eurovision let’s not give the Olympics too much credit. Dictatorships have regularly used the Olympics to make a political statement for example Nazi Germany. The Olympics have regularly been boycotted by the US or the Soviet Union to make a political Statement. The Olympics is always followed by massive protests you should read and watch about the different persons that run with the Olympic flame how many times they are attacked by protesters and how many times the Olympic flame is extinguished because of these protests. The reason why you do not hear about this is because the media is more silent on this matter and ignores it.
Historically there was a time of mandatory peace while the games were held ;)
You can’t pretend as if Olympic events aren’t political also
So many Sports events and they decided to choose the one which was so political that all wars would be temporarily stopped so that the participants would be prepared for them. The event that was used for propaganda during the entire Cold War and in 1936, the one which didn't allow a country to participate because of their apartheid policies (South Africa) definitely isn't political
More recently, Russia waited in 2022 to invade Ukraine until just after China’s Winter Olympics were finished
>Eurovision isn't supposed to be about politics, Heh. Good one. This kind of humor is why I come to this sub.
> Eurovision isn't supposed to be about politics, especially not about a 3000+ years long conflict. I mean yeah. But why was that girl constantly booed then, had to stay in the hotel most of the time and received idiotic interview questions like if she feels guilty that she is endangering the other artists by the virtue of just being there and participating?
And let us be honest - had to protesters outside been there to protest against the non-binary contestants and a journalist had asked whether the Swiss contestant feels guilty about endangering the other contestants people would have lost their minds and yelled “victim blaming” etc. and that would have been justified. Here? Crickets!
One shouldn't award such journalism with a Pulitzer. It is counter-productive.
Of course she shouldn't be threatened while being there (even though Israel should've been banned from even entering), but let's not kid ourselves about her stance, she supports the Israeli government and what they're doing in Gaza while also having stated that she's joining the IDF after Eurovision.
She’s joining the IDF because that’s what every Israeli has to do. They have mandatory military service. except some of the ultraorthodox ones, and even that exception is heavily debated right now. And Israel doesn’t fuck around with the draft. Here in Germany it was trivial to be exempted from service with a doctors note. In Israel it’s almost impossible to get out of unless you’re already in a wheelchair or a mental asylum.
Even more so when you know that the lyrics were originally very different
They weren't very subtle when calling it October Rain
It's the prequel to G&Rs [November Rain](https://youtu.be/8SbUC-UaAxE)
Doesn’t Israel literally have mandatory military service for men and women? Also how do you know she votes for likud or some other far right party? It’s obvious that an Israeli would support the war to exterminate a terrorist group that made the biggest terrorist attack in her countries history.
Ya! How dare they be so hostile to an avid supporter of an army who's killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians...uh wait a minute...
>a decade old conflict between a terrorist organization and a far right israeli government shouldn’t be fought with violence 1000s of kilometers away at a laughable music event. Don't you see that you're doing exactly that and making ESC about that political conflict by giving her support because of it? Also, did you know her song was explicitly nationalistic and the ESC asked her to rewrite it to be less political?
This. Thank you.
Yeah but Israel isn't even in Europe so shouldn't really be in the competition.
Yeah but Europe is in Israel so 🤷♀️
Mf, I specifically said POLITICS ASIDE. I don't care about the conflict, I'm saying that her performance was dull and overly generic and ass. That's the reason I think israel didn't deserve as many votes as it did. Her being the representative for a country that's in deep shit over a conflict is not reason enough for her personal safety to be compromised I agree, but it's not reason enough to give her so many pity points either. This is not a political dick measuring tourney, this is supposed to be a song contest, at least put some effort into pretending that it is
There are alot of people that vote for Israel no matter what, even to the point of making multiple accounts etc to vote for them. Get them the fuck out of Eurovision.
And you think that don't happen for other country's?
I really liked the Latvian guy. Am i the only one?
In my opinion latvia should have also gotten alot higher up in the ranking
What it’s shown is that what people actually believe and the side they’re on and what those with institutional power and cunty protestors would label wrongthink are one and the same. As far as I’m concerned, that’s more important to me than some Eurovision vote. There’s no hiding it any more, even if they want to pretend now people know that not everyone hates Israelis just because they’re told to. I think we will see an actual shift in societal attitudes because of that.
Estonia deserved so much more smh, that song will be in my rotation for quite some time 🇪🇪❤️
TBF it was one of the few actually good songs
I preferd teh Itrish!
The Irish with their satanist boogaloo were funny. But did they actually perform a song? I can't remember.
I was thinking the same
Lucky you. I try to forget.
Honestly it looked more like an ad for throat inflammation
Yes and it was good!
The last 20-30 seconds were literally just screaming. The rest was very good, just not my thing.
She was an eye sore and the song was average at best imo
But damn did it have a good act
Ireland definitely had the best staging this year, but I can see why some people wouldn't like the song too much.
Not as good as Finland's
Look her uncensored birthday song and you will see even more
Thank god
"Neutral" country profeteering from conflict once again.
Deserved. For me, either Switzerland, Croatia or France was a good winner.
Look lads. I think being the only ones to not get any points from the public vote is the real victory
I'd rather croatia get it but Switzerland was pretty great too. Israel getting all those points was a bit sussy, and portugal getting scraps was pretty sad, but at least we didnt get 0 (sorry barry)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you're anti Israel you can't vote against them. If you're pro Israel you can give them 20 votes. I don't think it's suspicious at all, it's just the nature of the voting system.
Yes but it's easier and much more fun to spread conspiracy theories!
Yeah, this is the first year I'm really happy about having the jury. People voting for the most politically controversial candidate is not a good system. On the same note, I think that's why they moved so quickly to ban the Netherlands. They would have gotten the anti-Israel vote. That might be even more people. Winning because of that would have been equally stupid.
Not really about that last part, the anti-Israel vote has one of two characteristics: a- Voting for ANYTHING besides Israel b- Voting for artists that are actively anti-Israel/Pro Palestine (ie. Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Switzerland, Netherlands) While Pro Israel votes are... Vote Israel -> profit
Joost Klein wasn’t anti-Israel or pro-palestine. All he did regarding this topic was asking “why not” when the person from the organisation said to the Israeli singer that she didn’t need to answer a difficult question in the press conference. The reason he got disqualified had nothing to do with Israel. ([Source in Dutch](https://www.ad.nl/songfestival/cornald-maas-woedend-over-diskwalificatie-joost-klein-f-ck-the-ebu~afd909fa/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F))
Plus people boycotting it don't vote for a non-israel country either
So neutral that they refused to answer when asked, "Your gender, sir?"
At least it wasn't Israel
Swiss taking Jewish Gold again
The best act won. See you guys in our little mountainous square next year
Stage performance was great, the song wasn’t quite my cup of tea
Can you actually find a valley that is bigger than 3x3m to actually build a stage in?
Eurovision is where music goes to die. It’s fitting the Swiss won, the same applies there.
The country might be neutral but the singer ain't
Even their gender was neutral
Croatia was epic
Motherfuckers are so neutral, they're even gender neutral.
Iven in gender identity the guy is neutral
Nemo lives in Berlin, we claim them as our subject. Berlin won eurovision.
Americans will think the host country won
I will not pay one swiss franc for this shitshow when SRF has to organize it next year. if they want tax dollars i go full SVP.
Be ready to go full SVP then. See you at the Buurezmorge.
Switzerland is neutral : slay the house down unproblematic queen. We need countries like you to take the moral high ground. Ireland is neutral: anti-Semitic cowards don’t you have a famine to die in?
Once again, the European elite has robbed the Jews.
Basiert und Chüechelihäschtli gepillt
I am just happy Israel lost
As long as Israel or Australia don’t win, I’m happy. It’s EURO vision, not world vision!
But australia is honorary european this one week in may.
And Azerbaijan
I only watched snippets of this and god damn most of those bands looked like absolute degenerates. This show isn't really about music anymore, is it?
Define "degenerates".
My man if flamboyant and gay coded performances are "degenerate" to you, you shouldn't be around Eurovision, and the fact you think it's somewhat a new trend while ABBA won 50 years ago , clueless. It's a competition about music but also about not giving much of a fuck and having fun, but I understand how a Bavarian German wouldn't get those concepts.
I think he was joking. Nazi Germany pre ww2 did an expo of "degenerate art" , for contemporary art they deemed insulting (In case you're being serious, if not, sorry for the art history snippet) .
Getting strong 30's vive from you, Hans. Please don't go back to it.
You sound like an early 1960s American Republican
It's okay Söder, Drink a beer, calm down, get back to bed
A benefit of them profiting off all sides.
How can they afford to put on the show next year?
Damn, Ezra Miller did it again.
some Nazi gold changed hands
They found Nemo
I guess it's for the best. No one can get mad at Switzerland for winning.
Is that a dude in a flamingo suit or a flamingo wearing a dude mask?
Can someone explain me why Israel got so many votes from the public? All the songs sounded equally terrible to me and i thought Israel wasnt very liked