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InsectaProtecta

Does the average adult not have a hobby in the US?


darkblade420

im not from the us, but here in europe its not uncommon for people to not have any hobbies. sounds kinda boring if you ask me...


chaos0xomega

It's the same in the US. That's why the number is so low. It's representative of the "average adult", ie inclusive of those who don't have hobbies.


sense_make

Last time I was in the dating pool, it was shocking how many women I met whose main hobby seemed to be watching TV and scrolling instagram, with the odd overseas trip to lay on a beach for a week. I envy how content some people are.


densetsu23

>with the odd overseas trip to lay on a beach for a week. The more I talk to people (men and women), the more I find this is true. I tried a resort once and it was BORING. The only fun part was getting out on excursions. I can sit around and drink at home. Let me actually experience the destination. But like 80% of the people I know are just fine spending $5K per person to go somewhere else for 10 days to lay around, drink and talk. In a walled-off area only filled with Americans, Canadians, and Australians.


Xanthis

It really depends on why you are going on vacation. I was just in Mexico at one of said walled gardens, and it was amazing and exactly what I needed. I've had an incredibly stressful couple years at work and home, and the ability to just go somewhere nice where I have zero responsibility, expectations or demands on my time was incredibly recharging. I came back refreshed and felt like a million bucks. A few years back before I got this current job, I absolutely would have felt as you do. The job is great and I love it, but it definitely takes a lot out of me.


wintersdark

I absolutely love these walled garden resorts. Absolutely how unlike to spend a vacation. But I have lots of hobbies, tons to do day to day. I spend basically zero time lounging on a couch.


Zouden

Not to mention it requires minimal planning compared to a travelling / sightseeing trip


TheRealDrewciferpike

This


Brickless

I found this is mostly because a lot of people have such poor work life balance that they never get to rest. so their ideal vacation is just somewhere where they can't be contacted. where they can catch up on all the lying around and having nothing on their mind that they neglected to do all year. people need time to do nothing. this is partly by design as when you never have time to do nothing you will always lack the motivation to do anything to fight the system that forces you to do meaningless busywork all the time.


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Fluxriflex

See, I don’t understand this. If you don’t want to answer the phone just… don’t? I work a white collar job where I theoretically could be contacted outside of business hours, but I just refuse. It hasn’t really landed me in trouble so far. If more people stood up for themselves and defended their time more aggressively, we wouldn’t have this problem.


chaos0xomega

I'd be in a much better spot financially if my gf and I were like that haha


pneef

Last time I asked a woman in the USA what she liked doing for fun she said "drink". My next words where "good" + "bye". I think if consuming alcohol was considered a hobby that number would be 10x higher


ChevTecGroup

Good point. They probably don't consider things like drinking and even sports as hobbies. Heck, cooking can be a hobby and I know guys that spend hundreds and even thousands on smokers, grills, and accessories, let alone food.


Bgo318

Yeah cooking can definitely be a hobby same with making coffee. People get special gear for cooking that costs hundreds to thousands of dollars all the time (special pans, knifes, etc.


CHEEZE_BAGS

Those people are NPCs. TV zombies


TabletopMarvel

The number of men in the US who just watch ESPN 24/7 as their identity is way too high. Worst part, you'll ask them about their favorite team or opinions on rosters or specifics of the game...blank stares. All they have is whatever talking heads told them.


Ambiwlans

That costs way more than 225/yr


Massive_Parsley_5000

Yep... I sub to one of the internet tv apps (random one each time, just to get a feel) each year for 5/6 months just for college football. It's generally more than a hundred a month for the privilege, lol....


swagdaddyham

I love football, it's probably my biggest interest by far. I also love poetry, horror fiction and movies, 3d printing, tabletop wargaming, video games, lego, and I just bought an open source 3d scanner kit to fold into the 3d printing hobby. I just want to go on record that some sports fans are 3 dimensional.


TabletopMarvel

I'm not saying there aren't. I watch tons of sports and nerd out on all kinds of stuff. But my point is THERE ARE ONE DIMENSIONAL people and it scares me lol. Like if you're wearing Eagles gear, have an NFL mancave, and you can't tell me a single member of the defense while ESPN is always on at your house... I'm left baffled with a lot of questions when our wives are chatting and I'm left standing with you going "how is this possible?" It's like an illusion of a hobby/identity. And I meet way too many of them. Like I hope there's just some secret RuneScape or mobile game addiction they don't share and this is just their public hobby display, cause it's creepy. Like Stepford Husband or something lol.


amd2800barton

I would argue that the cost of tv should be included in their hobbies. While it’s certainly a fairly passive hobby, it’s similar to reading. If you buy a $25 hardcover book every week, that’s $1300 a year, and I think most people would consider reading a hobby. So why not other forms of content consumption? Sure it’s not very noble, but tv shows can have as engaged communities just like 3d printing, gardening, crocheting, reading, running, or chess. So if someone spends a bunch of money on a tv, and a bunch of subscriptions to keep up with their latest shows and teams, I think that should be counted. And nearly everyone watches some amount of TV - whether it’s traditional network television, streaming/on-demand, or more modern stuff like YouTube and TikTok.


BigLittleSlof

I'm just depressed man leave me alone 😞


CHEEZE_BAGS

Finding enjoyable activities will help with that


kniveshu

Man, if they counted drinking, smoking, and getting high as hobbies that number would skyrocket


Maleficent-Aspect318

I used to have a few hobbies, Airsoft, Motocross, Gaming, cycling,... was in a 5 year relationship and gave up on most of them, other ones i just grew out of. Most friends also faded away in the years so i have no one left to actually do things together. People change alot, including me sadly


DontEatThatTaco

When I last got a survey about household expenses it had hobbies listed separately from trips, and I have family and know people that spend 10x my 3D printing expenses annually just going to theme parks or short trips.


FesteringNeonDistrac

What do Europeans do when they aren't working? Stare aimlessly into space? Because even simple things like reading and hiking would be considered hobbies in the US.


darkblade420

lots of people just watch tv or mess around on their phone all day when they get home. hiking and reading are also considered hobbies ever here.


ExplanationNormal323

Surely hiking is considered a hobby everywhere..... Yanno cos it kinda is a hobby?


Le_Pressure_Cooker

Hiking and reading are hobbies. And you can spend money on them, like buying books to read and buying hiking gear.


FesteringNeonDistrac

Yeah ok, I just used reading and hiking as examples because I had an uncle who said he "didn't really have any hobbies, he just liked to read and listen to classical music." So I felt like maybe people wouldn't count certain things if they seemed too common.


Klatty

Hiking sounds awesome if you live in a place with lots of nature, but I can also imagine that being expensive, lots of tools, boots, general gear, it can add up quickly


SuperCat76

Though a lot of that equipment can last for years. So a high up front cost, but in terms of cost per year can be quite low.


CHEEZE_BAGS

That stuff is optional. You just need decent shoes and a giant water bottle unless you are walking far.


sense_make

It really doesn't have to though. Where I'm at there's a lot of trails in the mountains, but they're generally 6-12km long so easily done in a few hours. All people do is put on clothes you can sweat in a little, and a pair of shoes you can walk in. I have a nice pair of boots, but by no meams neccessary. You'll see plenty of people out in their runners and they're doing fine as long as the ground is dry. It can be done on the cheap with no tools, and you can spend as much as you want with no ceiling.


Itz_Evolv

I’m from Europe and I think I spend like 70% of my money on hobbies 😳😫


DarkStar1542

Lmao, the wife and I are at 86% her yarn and our 3d...and that percentage is income from that business


StrangerReason

Not having a hobby must be really boring. I mean I have plenty.


wintersdark

Right? I have more hobbies than I have time or money to indulge them. $255 a month? Lol. Let's tell my wife that's all I spend on them.


Schmich

O_o What European country do you live in? Many in the north or around the alps have some type of skiing for example.


xxTheGoDxx

Mmmhh, also from Europe, I would say that even people that don't have 'real' hobbies have activities that they spend on. I don't know where this sum for the US originated from but I really can't believe that everything you would call luxury goods and services for your personal entertainment can count into that. It just sounds that low.


JigPuppyRush

Don’t know where in Europe you are, but I have a totally different experience. Most people here have more than one or two hobbies


amurmann

To me the question here is what counts as a hobby. Just looking at my friends and family in Europe and US I'd have to make some tough calls. My dad in Germany pretty much only watches tv in his spare time. But he spends a lot of time on their garden. He says it needs to be done, but I think a lot less could be done and it would be fine. So does my dad have a gardening hobby. I have several friends in the US who are always hacking on side projects. The goal is to eventually make money from them. Is that a hobby? What about golf?


armeg

A hobby is anything that brings someone enjoyment in their spare time imho. Exercise, sports, socializing are all totally valid options.


Glittering-Most-9535

I would list writing as a hobby of mine and that’s entirely time-not-money in terms of cost since I use a word processing program I paid for many years ago.


420goonsquad420

> What about golf? Doesn't golf cost like $150 per game?


amurmann

I depends where you play. I have play a few times at a course that's $25 + ~$10 for equipment rental. I was wondering if golf or sports in general counts as a hobby though. Worse examples is going to the gym.


Shadrach77

Seems like every "hobby" subreddit I frequent is posting this meme. It cites "media" as the source, and a ridiculously low value. [This article](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/13/investing-in-hobbies-can-be-money-well-spent-just-dont-take-on-debt.html) cites U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and says we spent $3,458 on hobbies in 2022.


VladReble

Should measure median, there’s lots of people that live the NPC lifestyle and bring down the average.


poleethman

Is hanging Live Laugh Love signs a hobby? Is looking up spoilers before you commit to buying a book a hobby?


Gothrait_PK

The average adult in the US is poor and can't afford to spend much on hobbies. That's why the usual hobby is gaming. They buy a game and play it for 6months. Sauce: I am an average income US citizen who wishes he could afford a hobby that isn't gaming.


GeneralRipper

That is clearly just an integer overflow error. They stored the average in an 8 bit integer, and thus could only display values of 0-255. The real value is surely much higher, like $65535.


ZBloemen

Thanks for the laugh.


stortag

[r/ProgrammerHumor](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/s/g394eZKFbA)


gr3yh47

*simultaneously laughs and cries in FPV drones*


barryboy

I’m trying to cry in ABS but I can’t get my eyes up to temp


GreenPotential2619

This is the number I tell my wife. It averages that per month though. Lol


hotend

I haven't spent anything in the past year (on 3D printing).


darkblade420

nothing? not even filament?


hotend

The hot end clogged some time ago, and I haven't got around fixing it.


Bogey01

Printer checks out


darkblade420

flair checks out


hotend

I'm rather fond of it, despite its limitations.


SelfSeal

You can't be that fond of it if you haven't used it in a year.


Bogey01

I'm pretty sure that's half the community. I'm running an old CR-10 S4. Outside of volume, I'm not winning any awards


khosrua

I'm in MINTEMP season down under. Too much of a pain to even turn the printer on.


Byte-64

Bought my Anycubic Mega X some 5 years ago. Bought the BL Touch Sensor 3 years ago, still using the same 3-for-2 spools I bought at Anycubic 1 1/2 years ago. So jepp, I haven't spent any money in the past year xD Though I also maybe print one minor stuff for the house each month, so not much xD


ElKod

Summer is drone time, winter is 3D printing. But summer is also fishing and archery. And winter is also ice hockey. And all year is camera time....


FIRE_FIST_1457

they mean 2550 right? right...


YTNavalTechTinkerer

Well... Per month I hope


darkblade420

i hope so...


Renaissance_Man-

Lol it's June and I'm at least 12k deep.


Zammer3D

Um, you mean so far this decade right? -Anyone else Only 12k? -Me


PaunchyBird4709

As much as I love 3D printing, my main hobby (milsurp collecting) makes 3D printing look like using a vending machine for a 25 cent piece of bubble gum


dircs

I'm pretty sure the headline is complete BS, I can't find it online. And yeah, I'm probably 10x that amount already this year just on milsurps, it's been a really slow year on the collecting front.


PaunchyBird4709

I had a very good February, and by very good my wallet means very bad


radtad43

Damn, so i can only buy like 50 magic packs?


p-dizzle_123

Just a couple precons and singles


radtad43

Honestly that may be enough depending on the format.


nochkin

No. That means they are hiding the real prices of the filament and parts.


Barristan-the-Bold

On a single hobby? So what if you have like 5 solid hobbies and like 3 semi-hobbies? Don’t answer that.


khosrua

The true cost is the unholy amalgamation of niche knowledges that makes people realise instantly that "don't get me started" was in fact, good advice


darkblade420

yes


Rustmonger

That number is meaningless. $255 per year? That don’t buy shit.


andrewsad1

Buys plenty of yarn and a couple crochet hooks


No-Advantage-8556

I call bullshit. Most hobbies are gonna take at least $500 from you. And that’s just to get you through the door entry level.


LOne_WuLF28

This is the third subreddit I'm in posting this


I_Epic

I think this is my fourth or fifth time seeing it lol Apparently Reddit is telling me I spend too much on my hobbies


vroschi

The average global personal income is $9,733 per year. just looked it up.


fire173tug

Some people have never rented an airplane for an hour and it shows.


darkblade420

you have to rent those? how plebeian of you.


fire173tug

Only when the Citation is in the shop for its annual.


Reyjr

Hobbies are expensive and some can’t afford to have that luxury.


SkeletonJames

I wouldn’t have the will to live if I couldn’t have a hobby. I’m not going to work if I’m miserable 24/7.


furryscrotum

I have barely spend that amount in almost three years of 3d printing and saved massively on custom built parts and gifts that would otherwise have cost several magnitudes more than the used filament.  My Ender 3 pro just chugs along nicely.


Vandel_h88

Guessing Warhammer was not in that hobby list lol


Drone314

embrace being an outlier, the more standard deviations away from the mean the better.


Galactic_toast_

Me here with my motorcycle hobby that has sunk around 10 grand this year:


Dennis-RumRace

I retired and quit adulting can’t add can we change subjects


_Arska_

ITT: rich people humblebragging how expensive their hobbies are. Yeah, most people can't afford hobbies after covering the basic needs just to survive.


Artales

Cigarette paper collection.


Illustrious_Matter_8

Hm about 5 to 6 roles of filament, 2 month a role


Windfisch81

Me, who just ordered an all-Carbon bike with a 5-figure price… (the 3D printer was gifted to me as it didn’t work but I take it as a challenge to get it working. It already printed a benchy with a lot of stringing)


KURD_1_STAN

May i suggest printing it without stinging? Believe me it looks much nicer


gfranxman

255 is laughably low.


Simoxs7

Now I get why People complain about prices for PC Gaming… its my cheapest hobby compared to Motorcycling and 3D Printing


BertoLaDK

Yea, when you don't buy new hardware constantly it doesn't actually cost that much, not that I would know, I've consistently bought at least one piece of new hardware each year, mainly storage, but its almost time for upgrading multiple things. Meanwhile, the other two have costs that follow usage, both have regular maintenance and consumption of filament/fuel.


ali_lattif

As an electronics and 3d printing hobbiest 255 is just this week, lol. Most of us go to work as means to make budget for the hobbies


JensPanis

I've spend at least 3k on hobbies this year 👀


Meow_Technology

Spending $0 on hobbies per month. I get free filaments and printer.


BRAEGON_FTW

Dude epoxy resin is expensive… and I absolutely sucked at it for like a month


rucksack_of_onions2

Per week more like it lol


MrJknife

Watching tv? They have free energy? Free cable? Free internet? Pretty soon breathing will cost money, and so far I like my breathing hobby.


tackyusernametaken

I totally agree with this. $255 is Netflix and 1 more streaming service.


namelessted

Yeah, "hobby" must be defined as something more narrow than leisure or entertainment to get this number. Like, can drinking alcohol or smoking weed considered a hobby?


NIKOSTERORIG

Well, I spent on my idex machine over thousand dollars this year and it still can't print


Inside-Car-3648

I spend that on a single trip to the art store for canvases, and I'm not even selling my works


ithinarine

I think a huge number of people don't realize that this number exists because of the large number of people with no hobbies. The number of people working multiple jobs, or who have multiple kids, and simply just don't have the time for hobbies, is quite high. Others just have no interest. They sleep, wake up, work, go to the gym, maybe out tod dinner with friends or to a bar, and then back home. None of that constitutes a hobby.


Anonymity6584

What hobbies are that cheap? Not mine, 3D printing, electronics.


slayermcb

Fishing, aquariums, 3d printing, computer hardware, miniature painting, video games... I've blown through that budget before the end of January.


frogmicky

Absolutely freaking wrong lol I blow that much money in two weeks if I'm no careful lol.


Danglicious

The average adult in the US is a dirty fucking liar!


SavageTiger435612

Average adult of what?


SubtleAgar

A lot of people consider watching CNN a hobby. It's not.


darkblade420

but watching CNC is a hobby right?


Abject_Darkness

I am below the average, yet this time i don't regret it.


Alienhaslanded

That's too low to cover any hobby. 3D printing isn't even an expensive hobby and it requires more than this amount. Imagine if your hobby is cars or Lego.


Ok-Brain-629

That's funny


Mean_Course_7980

All of my hobbies combined I'm spending like that much a week, does that mean I'm doing something right?


SoDakArtist

They mean per week if I could say so myself lol


Danielq37

I consider going to parties and drinking alcohol a hobby, though I feel like many people would disagree.


Quikmix

This is the kind of problem AI should ACTUALLY solve. Give humans more time for their passions.


superslomotion

Can't be the average surely.


privaxe

Maybe when your hobby was hoop and stick….


AntiAoA

Are they including gas prices? My main hobby is mountaineering. Gear accumulation is at a minimum these days bc I have everything, but driving to/from mountains adds up.


Real-Syntro

Um... Mine are... Usually more expensive than that...


Junior-Bear-6955

They mean per week right?


NumberZoo

That's what, 50 billion dollars a year? The video game industry alone makes that much. That statistic is way too low.


derprondo

Lol probably $500/year in electricity for my home lab alone.


AbcCamo

I would not be surprised if it's per week or every 2 weeks


andrewsad1

Meanwhile my minimum wage ass agonizes over spending $100 on a UHC filter for my family's 20 year old telescope I still look forward to the day I have $400 available to spend on an equatorial tracking scope. Might just buy the mount and frankenstein my dob to fit on it


l-espion

I already spend 6x more just on a pair of rollerblades this year , lol , and been thinking of designing and building another printer this year maybe on 48 or 55v lol , with likely an heated chamber and high flow hot end .


Hawkpelt

Watch as we are the Spiders Georg of this particular statistic


trueblue862

I thought they meant week?


rikyeh

So my hobbies are legos, drones and 3d printing... they excluded some of us


melance

I am way above average!!


V0x_R0x

I'm guessing they have only fans subscriptions listed under hobbies now.


That_Redditor_Smell

I literally spend most of my income on my hobbies lol


doom2wad

So basically a yearly Netflix fee?


MrMash_

Yay! I’m above average at something.


S1imeTim3

Man, I've just been abusing this 3 for 2 deal at my local hardware store and I still waste more than that. I've spent more than that in the span of 2 weeks


Intelligent-Size7488

*addictions


Netan_MalDoran

More like per week...


BigSmackisBack

Ha, what a joke, ive spent a bit less than that this month! Ahh nuts, its only the 15th


SG1EmberWolf

Haha. I play 40k and magic


Jman50k

I spend $255 per dollar.


TheSistem

3D print is all but It's not cheap


ButterscotchBrave560

I spend about 50 Euro each month for my hobby. (3dprinting and app/game development)


GoldNova12_1130

sorry guys i’m at fault, i spend like $100 a year on filament in bulk.


The_awful_falafel

Depends on the hobby. Some hobbies are expensive to get into, but cheap once you already have everything going and don't require much in terms of upkeep. Other hobbies can be super expensive because the hobby is making/building things, and constantly buying new raw materials is expensive.


moldaz

I’ve seen this multiple times from different hobbies I have, so maybe that says something about me…


gauerrrr

You mean per week, right?


MrGruntsworthy

Nah you mean per week


WoodyMD

3D printing the the safest and least expensive hobby I have. I spend that on materials sometimes daily if I'm running parts for an order!


Field_Sweeper

Mean while I just bought 2k in filters for my telescope... and a new X1c lmfaoooo


Socketlint

Clearly they aren’t counting the Netflix, cable or internet bill.


Acceptable-Oil-8412

Is not dying of starvation a hobbie?, cause it costs me like 900 a month.


PrudentCauliflower96

shit. try 10x that fml.


funktopus

225 a year? Good Lord I've spent more than on just lumber. Much less my filament habit. 


unkemp7

My problem is I get a hobbie and go fucking hard on it,, have a blast for a few months then I'm done. Like currently I'm 3ish months into an electronics hobby. I've always tinkered but the bug bit me good this time. I've bought so much shit if someone came into my apartment they would think I was the next Unabomber. Fucking wires, switches, pcb's, I'm in the process of building a reflow oven out of a toaster oven (why? Fuck I don't know it just seemed cool ok)... I've made almost my whole apartment a smart home, I'm working on the power monitoring part that goes into the breaker box as well. I got all this shelving so that I can store all the shit I'm buying around my work bench, just about every type of microcontroller, got a st-link V2 and a j-link v12. I built a probe stand that allows me to pinpoint probes on microchips so I can read and modify them, that's mostly for all the Chinese smart hardware I've been buying dirt cheap then removing the firmware that makes me have to use a Chinese server to turn my lights on and off, now it's all ran from my local home assistant server I made after buying a raspberry pi 5 just for the server.. Oh yeah and this hobby made me realize how horrible my eyes have become over the years, no worries I'll just fucking mount a 37" tv on a arm above the work bench that is connected to a 1080p microscope so I can see what I'm doing. Please help me Edit: this all started around mid April just for a time frame


seanhalihan

That would be my cheapest month ever.


WolfCrossArt

This is one amazon order for me...


ferretman345

My hobbies only cost time (theatre and DND)


JonasRahbek

My hobbies are mostly software related. I do graphics, programming, and minecraft. I don't think ive spend any money on hobbies for 5 years..


Asio0tus

They forgot at least one zero


Splinter_Cell_96

My hobbies are currently on video games and airsoft, but the last time I remember, I don't even reach that amount, not even at a monthly rate.


wintersdark

$255 a year? This HAS to be heavily weighted by very poor people. And maybe people who have no hobbies? Is that a thing? I can't imagine a life without things you do for entertainment. I mean, for me: * Ride motorcycles * SCUBA dive (though not recently, prairie life isn't conductive to diving, but when I live on the coast hell yeah!) * Video games * Reading * Warhammer 40k * Fishkeeping * Movies * Going out for coffee with friends Keeping that under $255 *a month* only happens because I can't afford more. $255 a YEAR?! that's just a little more that $20 a month. That's just sad.


Herp-derpenstein

Oof... meanwhile, I've got like $2500 into my printing hobby and over $10k in my shooting hobby...


DarkStar1542

I think they miss spelled day and week


DarkStar1542

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CampingOrangutan

If I had the money it would be per hour


analogicparadox

But have you considered that the average adult is boring?


Brotboxs

There would be no reason to work in germany if you wouldn't spend your money on stuff that makes you happy.


reckert47

$255 actually sounds sad compared to the amount spent on rent


thewallamby

They do not calculate alcohol and cigarettes in this. It's pretty obvious. But i can afford tons of hobbies because i do not drink or smoke. Where i live having a beer and a pack of cigarettes per day amounts to almost 5000+2000USD per year. And that is without ever going to a restaurant or bar. But people think that alcohol and smokes should be counted as 'food' instead of the filthy habit they really are (at least the smokes)... Do you know how many PCs, games, consoles, even a small car and other hobbies you can have for 7000USD per year?


PaleontologistDeep76

Forget it bro. We're not "Average adults".


insane_issac

Nah they don't


zenmatrix83

its funning I'm in three different subs that I spend way more then 255 a year on :D


Daekar3

Obviously wrong, if that's what their data says then they defined hobby wrong.


Logical-Ad-2615

Spent more than that just today! Bambulab sale so stocking up on filament


sepharon2009

lol


badlyplayedsolo

"We took a poll of the wives of men with hobbies"