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MyNamesMikeD75

They meant per week right? THEY MEANT PER WEEK, RIGHT?!


BigIronNV

RIP my wallet for primaris upgrades


blackstafflo

Sadly no; I think a year is **at least** 3-4 weeks long maybe up to 6. Can you imagine, less than 300$ for 6 weeks? That's nut, right?


111110001011

Lost my job one year, let me tell you I was fucking glad I collected Warhammer. Six months of painting statues twelve hours a day, trying to stay sane as I submitted resumes and ate ramen and prayed. Bitch about how "expensive" a hobby Warhammer is, but you can spend infinite time on it without spending a penny. It's fucking incredible.


Bcano

I like my job , but for a moment I really want to get fired so I can have those six months you speak about. ( I know it’s not cool but damn 6 months to enjoy the hobby sounds awesome ! )


FathirianHund

I know what you mean. I got back into the hobby during COVID (I'd played WHFB 6th ed as a kid), but was still working when everyone else was on furlough. Watching all the other folks get armies ready in weeks while I got one unit a month was killer.


leaningtoweravenger

You prayed to the God Emperor of Mankind, right?


dravack

nah FOR THE GREATER GOOD. Though tbh I've lost all desire to ever play tau again i liked my jump suits lol. Temped by WAAAAAGH but ugh green tide would cost a fortune lol.. Maybe necrons? but I don't like the new monolth. Yeah I'm picky =P


Bcano

I consider it suspicious that you even consider other possibilities


CakeDayisaLie

You can spend infinite time on it without spending ANOTHER penny, after you’ve already spent a ton of money on it! 


111110001011

You can spend a hundred dollars, and then spend several hundred hours on the hobby. You can even spend less, and enjoy the hobby longer than that, for example by reading the lore. This hobby gives more hours of enjoyment per dollar than anything I have ever found. You have more to show for your time than most hobbies, and you never have to spend anything you don't fe comfortable spending. The venn diagram of these three traits is really only Warhammer. Nothing else that I know of comes close.


Otoshimara

Yep I feel that, out of work ATM and using it to crack through the accrued pile of shame


chunkyluke

Having this discussion with some work mates who play. As far as hobbies go Warhammer could be a lot worse, and if you partake in both the hobby and play side of it then there is a hell of lot of hours of enjoyment you get from those minis. Like with just building and painting I'd say that the cost per hour ratio would be about the same as going to the movies, and then once you start gaming as well let's say you buy a Ork Boyz squad (we will say the new sculpts not the cheaper old ones) that's like $aud 90 (we are assuming you are buying direct here and not from a discount retailer) that would take me about 1.5 hours to build, then depending on your painting style another say 5 hours (this is pretty low for some who would get way more), so we are at 6.5 hours just hobby for $90, or about AUD $14 an hour. Movies are about 2 hours on average and an adult ticket is $23, 2 hours of hobby would be about $28. You get like one game in with those models and that price per hour falls a lot. A lot of hobbies are huge money pits, the problems with Warhammer is the same as any other hobby. If you only ever got what you needed it would be ok, especially if your playing a specialist game like kill team or blood bowl. The problems is that even for a cheap game like blood bowl I went from 1 team to like 6 pretty quickly, same with kill team, and I've got a couple of like half armies around my main one for 40K, and at this moment in collecting new game systems like new models :) but then again I only ever really needed a guitar and an amp to play, but I'm currently staring at my 3 different gain pedals, not to mention delays and modulation, as well as the multiple guitars...


Felrathror86

That's kinda sad if you think about it. No hobbies are cheap, so for it to be that low, that's a lot of people who literally do next to nothing.


ArgieBee

A lot of people out there watching YouTube and posting to social media on McDonald's WiFi as a hobby.


blackstafflo

I'm not the last joking about it, but objectively, a lot can be cheap. Some don't need much, like chess or reading/writing, other just need an initial investment that is very reasonable once amortised to the whole use life of the equipment. Hiking doesn't cost much if you live in a place for it; computer gaming can be cheap if you check for deals and don't get the last uber rig and keep it for more than 6 years; depending on the way you're doing it, fishing can be pretty expensive or cheap ... Heck, anyone that built its w40k army 20 years ago can still play with it and his friends every two weeks. Limiting itself to one box a year and his army would still be up to date enough to have fun, and he wouldn't be above this budget even with painting material and rulebooks.


Seer-of-Truths

I am probably the under for the average. I just find the cheapest ways to do any of my hobbies. Play Warhammer on Table Top Simulator/ cheap Proxies Play Free to Play games or games I get on sale Use old clothes for sewing


lennon_midnight

loooooooooooooooool... what hobby is THAT cheap?


GreedyLibrary

knitting with very bad quality wool?


blackstafflo

'My hobbies are Netflix and breathing.'


LOVMUFN

For some reason this seems like it belongs to one of the house hunter couples whose budget is 4.2 million.


blackstafflo

However, in these shows it will be their careers, not mere hobbies.


SnooSongs8782

But not really seriously into it, which can get really expensive! Most people start with just casual breathing, with air you have around the house, or maybe try down at the park where it’s still free. Once you get into it there is different respirator styles and vape flavours to try, and even technical breathing like SCUBA and CPAP. Some take it really serious, getting into iron lungs and stuff, but purists say that’s not really a hobby, the machine is doing all the work and there isn’t much skill involved. I say each to their own, whatever works for you. If you think you might enjoy breathing then go for it, give it a try, it might become a lifelong pastime.


blackstafflo

> ... where it's still free. Bold of you to advertise ways to pirate air on a public forum, you don't fear big AIR retalations?


mechanicalcoupling

So many hobbies are that cheap or pretty much free. You can play "pen and paper" rpgs for basically free. You literally don't need to spend anything on DnD and probably other systems now if you already have a computer and internet. Hiking is mostly free. I've spent like $700 bucks over 5 years being shit at bird photography. I could spend waaaay more, but it won't really make me better at it, so eh. And technically I could just use my phone. You can code for free, again if you already have a computer. Although actually releasing something to sell will cost and you may not sell. Camping can be really cheap in the long run. And the upfront investment isn't huge. Video games with a lot of replayability. I've spent tons of hours on Skyrim cause free mods and civ. Drawing. Pencils and paper aren't expensive and last a long time. Watercolor painting isn't much since you don't use canvas. Brushes can get pricey, but also a skill thing. No point in buying expensive brushes if you can't maximize them. And if you do get good, you can make money. Probably origami, I have no idea but it can't be too expensive. Working out. You can get real cheap gym memberships. Or just do body weight at home for free. Running is just the cost of the shoes. Real nice shoes are expensive, but you don't need those if you don't train at a high level. $100 will get you through a year. Gardening if you grow from seed can be super cheap. Gardening can actually save you money. Making music using synth programs if you already have a computer. Studying damn near anything. Tons of recorded free lectures online from major universities. You have to pay for a degree, but you don't have to pay to learn. Cooking can be super cheap compared to not cooking. It can also be real expensive, but it doesn't need to be. There are probably a bunch more.


infornography42

Read that a bit closer. It doesn't say annual budget PER hobby. That is annual budget for all hobbies. Yeah, there are probably some people who spend next to nothing every year on hobbies, but for the average to be so low? Not likely.


mechanicalcoupling

I answered the exact question that was asked. "What hobby (singular) is that cheap? The person I responded to didn't say hobbies (plural). I know the original post said hobbies, but that isn't what I responded to. A lot of people have no major hobbies much less multiple ones. They don't have time. A lot of people can't afford to spend much on hobbies. It just isn't an option. Some people do have time and money, but lack motivation or interest. Some would rather just watch TV. There are also a fair amount of people that do just have one, or maybe two hobbies and one or both is fairly cheap. And I know fair amount of 40k players that have no other hobbies. Probably because it is expensive and usually time consuming. Also, some of them are a wee bit obsessive about it.


Affectionate-World25

Exactly, one game now is half your yearly budget lol


dravack

PC gaming FTW baby! lol so many games for super cheap during steam sales or humblebundle EDIT: oh and as for hobbies that cheap. Maybe film/movies? could get streaming and dvds from the public library for like that value. edit edit: oh board games could def be that cheap. or brewing. I know I made some hard cider one year for the cost of a bottle of apple juice and some yeast. so could make a new batch every couple of weeks/months.


Destroyer_742

$255/year works out to $0.70/day. The electricity alone will eat that up.


dravack

haha this is true. If that's the case then the only hobbies i can think of would like disk golf, walking outside, or reading at the public library =P i guess in theory board games/table top war games too if you don't want to support your FLGS Honestly, though I just thought it meant actually spend on the hobby. Like is 40k expensive sure its not cheap in the short term but long term its a lot cheaper than those who like to smoke or gamble or whatever.


Gavman9402

Still would have to pay more than that for disk golf just for entrance more than like 6 times


dravack

Isn’t disk golf free? My local parks have the chain net things there. Once you buy your disks your done right? I can’t imagine one set costs more than $250? Edit: casual set not some premium set EDIT: also this isn't the first city I've lived in with them so I just assumed it was like the free basketball, tennis, etc.. courts.


Willing-Time7344

Gotta buy the PC though


dravack

Yeah but sorta like 40k you can buy it once and be done. You'd be surprised what you can run on a 5-10 year old PC. Sure you won't be running the latest and greatest games on max settings. But, there's so many older, indie, and budget titles I'll never get through them all if I tried lol. Plus add on emulation playing stuff like nes, snes, genesis, etc.. games for years if I wasn't addicted to the new and shiny.


TyffLuv

Well an example, say you play tennis, you need a racket, some balls, maybe some tennis clothes... you dont need much more and you dont NEED to buy more rackets that year unless you're John McEnroe and breaking a racket every day or into collecting rackets or testing new ones out and finding the perfect one, and unless youre knocking balls out the court and losing them you dont NEED to buy them every time you play. After a year of play things may be wearing out and you buy another.


TyffLuv

Fishing, a good pole, some spools of line, a set of lures and weights and bait, every so often get some more bait or lures or lines. Maybe add in a license if needed. Wouldnt be too much more than $300 a year. Reading, buying new and reading fast could add up but buying books from thrift or used and using the library could keep you in that range. Basketball, you need a basketball... about it unless you wanna show your swag and buy expensive shoes on the regular. TCG, buy some booster sets and build a deck wont cost you more than that unless youre deeply into finding those rare cards people sell for ridiculous amounts or you want retro out of print rare sets.


kajata000

I suspect that figure has some specific definitions of hobby. And I wonder whether it also includes people in the average who don’t have any hobbies?


ArabicHarambe

None. The average is down because so many people just dont do hobbies.


PaintsPlastic

Golf called... it says whoever wrote that stat is full of shit. There's also an answering machine message from "anything relating to cars".


Pyrkie

No respectable shame pile is being built on that... I don't want to gatekeep but can you even call $255 a year a shame pile? People with those amateurish levels probably do things like build and paint all their models before buying more... or heaven forbid actually use what should be their shame pile to play games with.


Hate_Feight

You mean the boxes, still wrapped up and unopened?


shellofbiomatter

Well yeah and i do semi assembling even with cannon fodder troops. I haven't played a single game, i only assemble and paint at glacial pace. I sometimes even doubt can i label it under a hobby.


Unevenscore42

I buy about one box a year, so yea this tracks


Intergalatic_Baker

I’m finding out under the main post that hobbies is hard to define, thusly, we’re the most expensive common hobby, but not the most expensive hobby… Say, Glass blowing.


RCMW181

It's entirely untrue. I don't know anyone who spends that little on their hobby or hobbies. Gaming? That's about 3-4 new games and no hardware. Golf? Won't even cover a years green fees or a couple of clubs. Team sports? The uniform will cost more than that. Any miniature game? Well we all know it cost more. Maybe if your hobbies is really cheap, like football in the park. But no way that is the normal.


ArgieBee

That's like a third of a handgun, 1 affordable watch, or 3 decent garage/estate sales for me. I probably spend 20 times this annually.


shellofbiomatter

Depends and there are lots of nuances. Like in current context of painting. i do spend rather low amounts on miniatures in comparison to others. 225€ per year estimation could be rather accurate. But i have other hobbies as well, which do take more time and money per year. So if painting would be only hobby then yeah i would spend more on it. But currently one box can keep me busy for months to half a year.


dravack

Board games, people who play casual MTG, home brewing (can be cheap not always though), pc gaming, retro gaming (anything before ps4/xbox one not just retro retro), uh D&D.. I mean I could go on there's a lot of low cost hobbies. Heck even 40k is low cost once you get over the initial investment. That said I know guys/friends who constantly change armies. Like they get bored and jump ship instantly for the new shiny lol.


RCMW181

Sure there are others, just saying it's not normal with the average on hobbies being way higher. Do you think that is an accurate number for an average spent on hobbies or just giving some other low cost examples?


dravack

It really depends on the person right. Using someone who has been playing 40k for 20 years is going to spend a lot less on the hobby than someone who just started and while yes technically the new guy has more to paint. I think they both equally can get as much hobby time which is the real argument here. Hobbies don't have to cost a lot if you play/do the same thing over time. Maybe it's just me but using board games as an example I still play like catan and stuff that I got 10+ years ago. At this point the investment has repaid for itself dozens of times over. 40k eh I technically still have my tau but don't play anymore. I honestly need to sell them lol. I liked them in 5th but meh these days. But, if I wanted to I could technically play them today without spending a dime and that's from what 2008? There's just too many variables to say if this is too high or too low. I'd think I could get by with only spending $20 a month on my hobbies. Heck I could probably do it and have money leftover at the end of the year. But, would I want to? Would I be happy? eh hard to say. But, the next guy he might need $1,000 a month for all I know. If I had to actually answer the question for "global" average. I think it's probably pretty accurate. People in general don't have a ton of disposable income. Maybe that $21 a month is all they can spend without breaking the bank is why its the "average" and honestly most hobbies I can think of are pretty low cost. Say if you like playing basketball instead of golf that a lot of people mentioned on here. There's a ton of public courts same for volleyball, tennis, disc golf, etc.. It's a hard question to truthfully answer. While I'd like to give you a cut and dry answer I don't think that I can since everyone's situation is different.


3RR0RFi3ND

Yeah… like $400+ in the past couple months XD


darciton

There are like 20 people out there not doing a hobby at all because I'm fulfilling their quota.


namless-mike

I guess it depends on the way you count. Do display shelfs count as hobby spendings? Does my academic literature, that wasn't required, count? Anyways, a few hundred bucks at least, I'm afraid


Madeline_Paulsont

This is epic. Warhammer 40k always has the best memes.


Competitive-Work5424

Average people need to GIT GUD We be lapping them slowpokes


7DS_is_neat

Per month


FrostCaterpillar44

Well OK, but some people don't have hobbies at all...


fredl0bster

There is no fucking way this is accurate


Ostroh

My GF says that they misspelled "per month". I shall offer no comment unless in presence of my lawyers.


thecjp

Are they not counting going out drinking as a hobby.... Obviously as well as 40k, but I spent less on 40k than I would if I went out every weekend


Known-nwonK

Lots of people must not have hobbies for it to average out that low lol


Glass-Macaron-6363

Around 1000 dollars per army...


infornography42

I don't buy it for one second. Most hobbies have a higher bar to entry than that. If that was a monthly amount then sure. Annual? Nope. Also this says Average not Median, which further drives me toward nope. The top is so heavy on this that even if 90% spent nothing, the average I am fairly sure would be higher than this.


Technical-Ad-4087

That average is only as high as it is because 40k fans exist.


Taffywolf1

Maybe add a zero or 2


PincheBatman

Sure ;)


Sofamancer

Those are rookie numbers you're gonna need to bump those numbers up


Turkeyplague

3d printer, crappy acrylic paints from dollar store, One Page Rules?


blabla1bla

Hahahahahahahaha


mylittlepurplelady

They said the average, not the whales, krakens and leviathans of the hobby.


Ticklemebendef

I did half that last week.


WANKMI

Im gonna say if your hobby costs 250 or less per year, its not really a hobby, Its just a thing you do when youre bored sometimes.


Accomplished_Alps463

Some, like me, are interested in so much stuff that they are saving their money up and watching what others are doing. I'm thinking of the things that I can get into know, though. And do a spending spree.


charlieofdestruction

In 1996 maybe?


ArgieBee

Surely, they're missing a zero.


nopeace11

Lies. Heresy.


Fun_Librarian4189

Polls are a load of rubbish. The entity who compiles them want to make a particular statement with the figures and generally ask the demographic they'll get their desired numbers from. Never trust a poll of any kind.


p2kde

Thats bullshit. Going out for drinks and restaurants also count as hobbys


No_Homework_4926

Common skiing costs me a lot more per year than 40k. Its the average anyway. Most people dont even have a real hobby.


AndrewAgain10

A large chunk of adults don’t have hobbies at all, which probably lowers the average.


BigIronNV

Oh no, I have been found out


SaiBowen

That's a weird way to spell month, is that the British spelling?


DronesAreSilly

This is actually the amount I’ve probably pay year by year! I typically only buy used, and only when it’s an exceptionally good deal- we have a local store that sell used models at a fraction of the cost, I got my 10 custodian guard and Trajann Valoris for 60 cad.


Dragoon130

I spent that in one day.....three days in a row.....last week


No-End3855

Intresting way to spell weekly 🤔


Master_Ad9434

I budget 1-2 boxes a month, depending on size and price and will skip a month to save for a more expensive box


dontcallmeEarl

Right...I spent more than that yesterday just buying a single sword for my collection. And I spent almost twice that much last weekend on 40k preorders.


Personal-Thing1750

Right...I'm gonna be spending that much this summer just to finish one of my projects. And that's on top of having spent half that to get the last models for another project. Whoever said that clearly doesn't understand how much most hobbies cost. (Except disc golf, that hobby can have a stupid cheap initial buy in and maintain cost.)


CptWondertoes

The average adult *pretends they only spend $255 a year on hobby There I fixed it


Beohulf

Def not as much as 40k models but i collect Gunpla and its still double that☠️


Spiritual-Storage734

It depends, some people don’t have any hobbies at all. Some people have loads or 1 really big one


Spartanwhimp

I can believe this. Most people I know have a pile of discarded hobbies they spent a thousand dollars trying to get into roughly four years ago.


montyandrew45

Magic the Gathering.... Warhammer 40k.... Video Games.....


He_Who_Tames

I am a f-cking adult, let me spend my money the way it makes me happy. The hobbies are getting crap, but let me spend on them!


Corax1971

40k is not just the name, it's how much you spend! Lol


Shinygami9230

I spend way more.


Teamisgood101

Those are rookie numbers


Rickity_Gamer

I mean, just on shipping?


RichardBurning

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Halollet

Let's give thanks to all those people who don't have hobbies to skew this result. Remember, that the average person has 1 testicle. Math is fun!


undercided

At least we don’t spend as much as boat owners.


SunSettingWave

Oh well there goes $600 +


GriffithDidNothinBad

Ha ha ha ha. Ha. Haaaaa


Warhammer_Addict702

This seems like complete BS. Golf, coin collecting, any type of sport really, auto work, hunting, shooting, fishing... All of these are going to cost more than $200 per year. So this article is either a lie or super super old.


Repulsive-Self1531

I spend maybe $1000 au? If two people spend 0 on hobbies it brings the average from the three to $333.3. Let’s get a sample size of 4 where one person spends $1000 and 3 spend $1. That brings the average to $250.75. Averages aren’t always the best.


bark_wahlberg

"Tbf, if you're like me and slow about painting, a lot of these kits occur or maintain their value, and while not necessarily a great investment do serve as hedge against inflation in the same manner as gold."- lies I tell myself


Psynapse55

Yes.... yesss.... correct... that is "all" I spend ;)


-RudeCanadian-

That is statistically incorrect. Your average person spends less than $100 on their hobbies. James Workshop, who spends $10,000 on his 40k armies a year is a statistical anomaly and shouldn't be counted.


TheeFapitalist

damn and i bought 4 3d printers this year....


ArchonFett

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DemonicBrit1993

To be fair, it doesn't have to be expensive if you just paint. Get the combat patrols, you get shit loads of miniatures in the boxes, and that'll last for a while!


Comfortable-Fly3246

I just got into this hobby 1 year ago and my wife informed me I have spent $11k and I am currently trying to buy a warlord titan 😬


Dr_Spudies

Chump change.


RubberDuck-on-Acid

I'm a mountain biker and Warhammer enthusiast. I don't think this would cover 1% of my year spend on either hobby.


Avarris

Do AoS and 40k count as separate hobbies? If so, I'm ok so far this year, if they don't, I'm doomed.


Agreeable_Falcon1044

That must be an average over a lifetime. Either that or folk count reading newspapers as their hobby! Most clubs my son goes to are 30 quid per month! Not sure how you can have any hobby for that price


CowApprehensive3180

Average means a whole lotta folks spend $0 on hobby!!


Azzrill

Per Preorder, sure