Answer is really simple and this was done intentionally, you immediately call anyone antisemetic when they are vocally against the Israeli government. Even look at someone as brain dead as Adin Ross, he openly admits to being an irreligious Jew living in Miami but believes without any prior experiences his Jewish identity makes him automatically loyal to Israel.
Also a couple days ago the IDF raided a synagogue within Israel because they were vocally anti-zionist / anti-occupation and claimed it was because of terrorism.
they do hate the Jews, they just pretend they don't. Why do you think they are such strong supporters of shipping Jews off to some far away land? Why not create Israel out of German land? They did the Holocaust after all
> They
Who are these "they"? The people that actually performed the Holocaust are almost all dead. To claim that the entirety of Germans, or even a sizable fraction of them, hates Jews requires quite a bit of evidence, not just an assertion.
It's called deshumanizing and it's taugh in almost every army but in israel it appear to be rather well spread among every layer of their society. On reddit it's pretty common as well. Like that you can resort to even the most vile shit to achieve your goal.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/disturbing-recordings-crying-infants-played-israeli-quadcopters-lure-gaza-residents-shooting
https://twitter.com/i/status/1780186641417613695
its not a new idea to broadcast with drones! https://www.reddit.com/r/boringdystopia/comments/18ad9wc/the_idf_sent_drones_with_speakers_threatening/ the babies crying is the new thing
Directional speaker systems exist that transmit sounds up to thousands of feet away… sound warfare has been used for decades… I can buy a home setup that does like 300 feet from Bose for like $2000-3000 grand and that’s a retail setup for consumer use… not military grade
Also, I’m a U.S. Army combat veteran. Here’s some more information on long range directional ultrasound usages:
“The U.S. military has been using directional speakers since 2004. The system they use is called LRAD (long-range acoustic device) and consists of giant flat loudspeakers mounted on the side of ships so they can send loud audio warnings to vessels at a potential range of over 500m (a third of a mile). It's particularly useful on loud and noisy aircraft carriers where any conventional loudspeaker would be drowned out by the background noise from jet planes and helicopters.”
Yes, and that’s 2004, so much more advance now, and these one’s are capable of over coming the sounds of the vessel engines, and multiple active jet/helicopter engines with no issues, which a drone does not remotely compare too. Modern systems are much more compact, and often designed with other usage case scenarios.
I’m not saying this proves it’s occurring… I’m saying yes it is very, very possible and doable.
single source is different than your high school's loudspeaker and speakers get really loud these days if that's the design intention.
Basically I know more than you, and I find this plausible.
This is being reported as video of the quadcopter playing the crying baby
https://old.reddit.com/r/palestinenews/comments/1c5foii/israeli_drones_are_reported_emitting_sounds_of/
No you see they declare certain areas off limits, and then lure people there with the drones, so they can justify killing them.
It's pretty common strategy for Israel. But crying drones as the lure is new.
I don’t know. If I was in a war zone and going out on the streets could be a death sentence, hearing a baby cry outside would, I hope, get the attention and immediate panic of a lot of people. Any parent that I know. And I would NOT be expecting a government to be using the noise to draw out their next target because that’s an evil that I don’t imagine most people with any decency would ever expect be happening.
What am I even reading anymore.
There's no words for this. There is no condemnation commensurate to the scale of this evil.
That 'Western civilization' has tolerated, protected, and even participated in this demonic slaughter (I'm not religious, but what other word do you use here?) represents for me nothing less than the fall of our civilization.
Some things are so bad, I don't think you can just come back from them. This is permanent damage to our power and legitimacy, period. At a minimum, this represents the end of the post-Cold War order.
I just had to pay my taxes, and simply knowing that money will go to this slaughter without my consent makes me so sad that if I don't get angry about it instead I'll become non-functional.
"Western civilization" has already done stuff like this before. Obama started the Double Tap drone strike policy where after striking a target, the operator waits until first responders and other people arrive to help the target and then strike them as well. And Obama got a fucking nobel peace prize.
It has done worse than this before with things like the firebombings. But that was the great war. This is the post war Era, the post *Cold* war Era, and "developed nations" aren't meant to wantonly participate in naked genocide. That it is so mask off represents a shift moreso than whether it is literally unprecedented or not (it isn't). Any rational person can't even begin to pretend that this level of civilian targeting isn't intentional. The amount of civilian casualties in the Ukraine war, especially of children, over a similar time frame doesn't even come close to comparing to this.
But it is true that the United States, Europe, and its allies have throughout its history used intimidation, war, and really just mass violence and murder to get what they want--up to and including cooperating with and sheltering Nazis and far-right political uprisings--and what is increasingly the case is that this legacy of violence has become increasingly impossible to ignore or continue to legitimize on an international stage. This is how empires end.
Fuck... Imagine being so filled with hate you come up with this idea.
I don't care what side, the guy who goes: "Yo boss... Hear me out..." on this one goes straight to hell.
It’s fucking [Screamers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamers_(1995_film)) (a sci fi from the 90s) where AI advances to the point where they create robots (drones) that look like kids or injured soldiers to lure in victims
I was wondering if the hunger games series was as popular as people seemed to think it was, seeing as this seems straight out of it and yet no one’s making the connections…
Audio analysis also showed that the fingerprint of the baby crying audio isn't found online nor is copyrighted, so they recorded a baby crying in fear to lure civilians out of their homes.
Even if they claim everyone who comes outside because of this lure is Hamas, in what world do you lure and kill someone whos trying to help a distressed baby? Even worse is when you recall and remember that these same forces killed 3 Israeli hostages who were holding up a white flag what makes you think Palestinians aren't KOS?
>what makes you think Palestinians aren't KOS?
We know they are. Weve all seen the videos. Im not messing with you it's just wild how we feel we need to confirm it, even here. If that makes any sense.
There are pockets of Reddit that believe because AIPAC has so much power that us regular people still believe in these delusions that this is for defense or for only eradicating Hamas.
The large vocal majority is in favor of Palestinian rights, whether it be 1 or 2 states and the world also acknowledges that but still you see people who will defend Israel's actions as self-defense. Also funny enough people have forgotten how Israel has completely stopped mentioning the "hostages" they so deeply cared for a couple months back
The analysis of course was janky because you can hear the man speaking on it but besides children crying they have the audio of the woman yelling for help and saying she’s hurt, also the nursery rhymes. The woman crying wasn’t also found online as copyrighted work
Also remember this camp is cut off of electricity so they hear this in absolute darkness, and Palestinians, before knowing the IDF are doing fake cries they were still going out in the dark in a warzone with pure intentions to help each other.
This kind of community is something no one in the west will ever understand
There are folkloric stories of monsters and cryptids who will mimic the sounds of crying women and children or of loved ones to lure in unsuspecting prey. Those monsters usually don’t have assault rifles.
Israel is literally out-monstering mythological horrors.
I don’t even know what to type… there’s no words. I understand trying to save hostages and defending one’s self against legitimate threats, but this… there’s no words for one in position of power… much more superior power to do this..… unchecked power is always peak corruption. Fuck, I cannot understand this… I feel broken
I thought it was too cartoonishly evil to be true, and [yet here we are](https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6271/Israeli-army-broadcasts-intimidating-sounds-to-lure,-kill,-and-forcibly-displace-civilians-in-the-Nuseirat-camp)
I’d say I can usually tell when something is live audio vs a recording but in that particular situation I don’t know that I would immediately gamble on it being fake and not even look outside. To a degree, humans are programmed to hear the sound of a crying child and do something about it. If you were living in a war zone and heard a cry for help outside, would your immediate thought be “naw, probably just a trick” (before hearing about this trick happening in real life), or would you maybe take a peek out your window to make sure your neighbors aren’t dying in the street regardless of the voice sounding a bit off? Im pretty sure with the daily panic and horrors people are going through, they aren’t always going to calmly and collectedly point out that the voice sounds like it’s recorded and therefore the enemy is definitely using drones to fake a baby noise and draw them of their home to kill them. Especially because that isn’t a tactic that most militaries use (that I’m aware of).
Not saying it’s 100 percent true. I don’t know. But I don’t think the failing is that it would never work.
This reminds me of one of the US's projects in the Vietnam War. They would play recordings of Vietnamese actors pretending to be the dead ancestors of the Vietcong, imploring their relatives to lay down their arms and surrender.
This Israeli shit is obviously different and much worse, but it reminded me of it and thought others would think it was interesting
This origination confirmed it…
“Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor is indeed a legitimate organization. It's a non-profit organization that focuses on human rights issues in the Euro-Mediterranean region. They monitor, document, and report on human rights violations, advocate for justice, and work to promote human rights standards in the region. Their reports and activities are often cited by international human rights organizations and media outlets.”
"He kill them with they love" (John Coffey, The Green Mile)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=247HdXb0Rdw#t=2m30s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=247HdXb0Rdw#t=2m30s)
Your submission was removed as it appears to be misinformation.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/4/16/israels-war-on-gaza-live-israel-vows-response-to-iran?update=2841397
You should realize that not everything is reported by western media which leaves only middle eastern sources. You should be critical that bias cuts both ways. Western media is not being fair in its reporting of this conflict.
JFC. I can't even comprehend how this shit is still being allowed to happen.
Answer is really simple and this was done intentionally, you immediately call anyone antisemetic when they are vocally against the Israeli government. Even look at someone as brain dead as Adin Ross, he openly admits to being an irreligious Jew living in Miami but believes without any prior experiences his Jewish identity makes him automatically loyal to Israel. Also a couple days ago the IDF raided a synagogue within Israel because they were vocally anti-zionist / anti-occupation and claimed it was because of terrorism.
Well, if Adin Ross says it, it must be sincere. Ffs
germany for example is supporting israel „unconditionally“. I could vomit every day that my country is AGAIN involved in atrocities.
Turns out Germany didn't actually hate the Jews, they just really love a genocide.
I mean, with how well they streamlined it and who all was included it’s not too surprising.
they do hate the Jews, they just pretend they don't. Why do you think they are such strong supporters of shipping Jews off to some far away land? Why not create Israel out of German land? They did the Holocaust after all
> They Who are these "they"? The people that actually performed the Holocaust are almost all dead. To claim that the entirety of Germans, or even a sizable fraction of them, hates Jews requires quite a bit of evidence, not just an assertion.
It's called deshumanizing and it's taugh in almost every army but in israel it appear to be rather well spread among every layer of their society. On reddit it's pretty common as well. Like that you can resort to even the most vile shit to achieve your goal.
who you cannot criticize is who rules you
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The drone doesn't have to be flying. How do you know it didn't landed near a target to play a sound?
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/disturbing-recordings-crying-infants-played-israeli-quadcopters-lure-gaza-residents-shooting https://twitter.com/i/status/1780186641417613695 its not a new idea to broadcast with drones! https://www.reddit.com/r/boringdystopia/comments/18ad9wc/the_idf_sent_drones_with_speakers_threatening/ the babies crying is the new thing
without more data we know nothing. you cant really say its fake or not without knowing the details.
Directional speaker systems exist that transmit sounds up to thousands of feet away… sound warfare has been used for decades… I can buy a home setup that does like 300 feet from Bose for like $2000-3000 grand and that’s a retail setup for consumer use… not military grade
Also, I’m a U.S. Army combat veteran. Here’s some more information on long range directional ultrasound usages: “The U.S. military has been using directional speakers since 2004. The system they use is called LRAD (long-range acoustic device) and consists of giant flat loudspeakers mounted on the side of ships so they can send loud audio warnings to vessels at a potential range of over 500m (a third of a mile). It's particularly useful on loud and noisy aircraft carriers where any conventional loudspeaker would be drowned out by the background noise from jet planes and helicopters.” Yes, and that’s 2004, so much more advance now, and these one’s are capable of over coming the sounds of the vessel engines, and multiple active jet/helicopter engines with no issues, which a drone does not remotely compare too. Modern systems are much more compact, and often designed with other usage case scenarios. I’m not saying this proves it’s occurring… I’m saying yes it is very, very possible and doable.
You underestimate how good speakers are these days.
single source is different than your high school's loudspeaker and speakers get really loud these days if that's the design intention. Basically I know more than you, and I find this plausible.
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This is being reported as video of the quadcopter playing the crying baby https://old.reddit.com/r/palestinenews/comments/1c5foii/israeli_drones_are_reported_emitting_sounds_of/
Huh, it's actually real. Source: https://aje.io/w2tkgb?update=2841397
Ive been telling myself this is fake, gotta be fake, because, what the actual f man. The retribution killings are gonna go on for decades.
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No you see they declare certain areas off limits, and then lure people there with the drones, so they can justify killing them. It's pretty common strategy for Israel. But crying drones as the lure is new.
Huh, it's actually real. Source: https://aje.io/w2tkgb?update=2841397
This lol. Wtf is this cartoon ass plan.
I don’t know. If I was in a war zone and going out on the streets could be a death sentence, hearing a baby cry outside would, I hope, get the attention and immediate panic of a lot of people. Any parent that I know. And I would NOT be expecting a government to be using the noise to draw out their next target because that’s an evil that I don’t imagine most people with any decency would ever expect be happening.
Misinformation, it's real https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/4/16/israels-war-on-gaza-live-israel-vows-response-to-iran?update=2841397
What am I even reading anymore. There's no words for this. There is no condemnation commensurate to the scale of this evil. That 'Western civilization' has tolerated, protected, and even participated in this demonic slaughter (I'm not religious, but what other word do you use here?) represents for me nothing less than the fall of our civilization. Some things are so bad, I don't think you can just come back from them. This is permanent damage to our power and legitimacy, period. At a minimum, this represents the end of the post-Cold War order. I just had to pay my taxes, and simply knowing that money will go to this slaughter without my consent makes me so sad that if I don't get angry about it instead I'll become non-functional.
"Western civilization" has already done stuff like this before. Obama started the Double Tap drone strike policy where after striking a target, the operator waits until first responders and other people arrive to help the target and then strike them as well. And Obama got a fucking nobel peace prize.
It has done worse than this before with things like the firebombings. But that was the great war. This is the post war Era, the post *Cold* war Era, and "developed nations" aren't meant to wantonly participate in naked genocide. That it is so mask off represents a shift moreso than whether it is literally unprecedented or not (it isn't). Any rational person can't even begin to pretend that this level of civilian targeting isn't intentional. The amount of civilian casualties in the Ukraine war, especially of children, over a similar time frame doesn't even come close to comparing to this. But it is true that the United States, Europe, and its allies have throughout its history used intimidation, war, and really just mass violence and murder to get what they want--up to and including cooperating with and sheltering Nazis and far-right political uprisings--and what is increasingly the case is that this legacy of violence has become increasingly impossible to ignore or continue to legitimize on an international stage. This is how empires end.
Where's the video?
I think it is [this](https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1780186641417613695)
https://www.reddit.com/r/palestinenews/comments/1c5foii/israeli_drones_are_reported_emitting_sounds_of/
Fuck... Imagine being so filled with hate you come up with this idea. I don't care what side, the guy who goes: "Yo boss... Hear me out..." on this one goes straight to hell.
This is straight out of the [hunger games](https://thehungergames.fandom.com/wiki/Jabberjay). Holy shit. Evil, evil, evil.
It’s fucking [Screamers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamers_(1995_film)) (a sci fi from the 90s) where AI advances to the point where they create robots (drones) that look like kids or injured soldiers to lure in victims
[Screamers](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114367/?ref_=ext_shr) got there first.
I was wondering if the hunger games series was as popular as people seemed to think it was, seeing as this seems straight out of it and yet no one’s making the connections…
Audio analysis also showed that the fingerprint of the baby crying audio isn't found online nor is copyrighted, so they recorded a baby crying in fear to lure civilians out of their homes. Even if they claim everyone who comes outside because of this lure is Hamas, in what world do you lure and kill someone whos trying to help a distressed baby? Even worse is when you recall and remember that these same forces killed 3 Israeli hostages who were holding up a white flag what makes you think Palestinians aren't KOS?
>what makes you think Palestinians aren't KOS? We know they are. Weve all seen the videos. Im not messing with you it's just wild how we feel we need to confirm it, even here. If that makes any sense.
There are pockets of Reddit that believe because AIPAC has so much power that us regular people still believe in these delusions that this is for defense or for only eradicating Hamas. The large vocal majority is in favor of Palestinian rights, whether it be 1 or 2 states and the world also acknowledges that but still you see people who will defend Israel's actions as self-defense. Also funny enough people have forgotten how Israel has completely stopped mentioning the "hostages" they so deeply cared for a couple months back
I can barely even peek into r/news without being bombarded by IDF propaganda
Wow that's even worse. They have original audio?! Sick doesn't even begin to describe this
Gotta respect IP laws, otherwise they could be sued!
I don't think audio search works that well. Not that it would surprise me.
The analysis of course was janky because you can hear the man speaking on it but besides children crying they have the audio of the woman yelling for help and saying she’s hurt, also the nursery rhymes. The woman crying wasn’t also found online as copyrighted work Also remember this camp is cut off of electricity so they hear this in absolute darkness, and Palestinians, before knowing the IDF are doing fake cries they were still going out in the dark in a warzone with pure intentions to help each other. This kind of community is something no one in the west will ever understand
There are folkloric stories of monsters and cryptids who will mimic the sounds of crying women and children or of loved ones to lure in unsuspecting prey. Those monsters usually don’t have assault rifles. Israel is literally out-monstering mythological horrors.
I don’t even know what to type… there’s no words. I understand trying to save hostages and defending one’s self against legitimate threats, but this… there’s no words for one in position of power… much more superior power to do this..… unchecked power is always peak corruption. Fuck, I cannot understand this… I feel broken
I thought it was too cartoonishly evil to be true, and [yet here we are](https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6271/Israeli-army-broadcasts-intimidating-sounds-to-lure,-kill,-and-forcibly-displace-civilians-in-the-Nuseirat-camp)
Israel is still evil as fuck. Fuck Israel.
Maybe we really are living in hell
This is diabolical to do. But if it was the other way around its called terrorists.
What a bunch of psychopaths. So dystopian they couldn't even come up with this in Black Mirror.
Bro this shit so dark even fictional story writers haven't thought of this shit.
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It's certainly possible for the drone to land, then play the audio
I’d say I can usually tell when something is live audio vs a recording but in that particular situation I don’t know that I would immediately gamble on it being fake and not even look outside. To a degree, humans are programmed to hear the sound of a crying child and do something about it. If you were living in a war zone and heard a cry for help outside, would your immediate thought be “naw, probably just a trick” (before hearing about this trick happening in real life), or would you maybe take a peek out your window to make sure your neighbors aren’t dying in the street regardless of the voice sounding a bit off? Im pretty sure with the daily panic and horrors people are going through, they aren’t always going to calmly and collectedly point out that the voice sounds like it’s recorded and therefore the enemy is definitely using drones to fake a baby noise and draw them of their home to kill them. Especially because that isn’t a tactic that most militaries use (that I’m aware of). Not saying it’s 100 percent true. I don’t know. But I don’t think the failing is that it would never work.
A phone or Bluetooth speaker can be louder than a drone, and doesn't weigh much.
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This reminds me of one of the US's projects in the Vietnam War. They would play recordings of Vietnamese actors pretending to be the dead ancestors of the Vietcong, imploring their relatives to lay down their arms and surrender. This Israeli shit is obviously different and much worse, but it reminded me of it and thought others would think it was interesting
Lol Israel basically at this point is helping with Hamas recruitment efforts. Nice one Israel.
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Did you consider that they might be landing them somewhere before playing the audio?
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Username checks out.
This origination confirmed it… “Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor is indeed a legitimate organization. It's a non-profit organization that focuses on human rights issues in the Euro-Mediterranean region. They monitor, document, and report on human rights violations, advocate for justice, and work to promote human rights standards in the region. Their reports and activities are often cited by international human rights organizations and media outlets.”
they really are the goats at this evil game
Just another day in occupied Palestine...
All this tech will be used in the mainland from which it came from. It always does.
"He kill them with they love" (John Coffey, The Green Mile) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=247HdXb0Rdw#t=2m30s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=247HdXb0Rdw#t=2m30s)
Dude.....we need to cut these psychopaths' funding already. If there is a heaven ain't no Zionist getting in
This is the sort of thing I used to write dystopian ficlets about in 2015. Holy shit. Also, HOW IS THIS NOT A WAR CRIME.
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Why would the IDF be disseminating this as propaganda?
I don't think it's likely but, dead cat, dropping something shocking to divert attention.
Very moral thing to do
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There are plenty of videos around of Israeli drones and the shit they spew
This isn’t fit for “boring” dystopia, this is real intentional evil
And they are supposed to be "the good guys"?
Every time I think the Israelis have hit a new low, they find some way to sink even deeper. This is incredibly sickening stuff.
Well that’s psychotic
Unfathomable hate. I'm shaken
This is beyond sadistic.
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Your submission was removed as it appears to be misinformation. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/4/16/israels-war-on-gaza-live-israel-vows-response-to-iran?update=2841397 You should realize that not everything is reported by western media which leaves only middle eastern sources. You should be critical that bias cuts both ways. Western media is not being fair in its reporting of this conflict.
See Philip K. Dick's novel "Second Variety".
IOF is cartoonishly evil. They make it really hard for their allies to save face. Fucking disgusting.
Most moral army in the world.
Philip K. Dick's Second Variety.
Fluffy is fine John. Where sre you?
(to the tune of the Burger King song) *Nightmare Nightmare Nightmare Nightmare*
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No one forces you to stay subscribed.
Yeah, right? I mean…war crimes, genocide, the thieving of land and murdering of innocent people? That’s not dystopian *AT ALL!*
Maybe don't go on it if you have PTSD
War crimes are boring now?
The boring part is that we can read about it but nothing will happen