How's the Facebook comments, everybody seems to think Dobbs is better than Murray? Wtf is wrong with this team's fans. Why does Murray cop so much hate?
I keep seeing people saying Dobbs is playing great. He’s playing serviceable, there’s a difference.
With their logic, Mahomrs should’ve never taken over for Alex Smith
Colt McCoy is a real cool dude. Bummer we had to cut him, but he’s such a great guy. Always positive, always speaking well of others. Hope he finds plenty of success with whatever he pursues post-NFL.
Sounds like every article that raising zona c*** posts. I know where my loyalties lie and is usually not where the prolific media Posters write including forums.
Is this regarding the Bleacher Report article siting “speculation from outside the organization” as a reason they think the Cardinals will move on from Kyler after the season?
It’s just how it is. Kyler really brought this shit on himself imo. You have to understand the big media guys who cover the entire NFL do not necessarily have time to hyper focus on every team in the NFL. It’s always only going to be the big market teams (Cowboys, Giants, Steelers) and whoever is good.
The Cardinals had the spotlight in 2021 and what those guys are going to remember is that playoff game against the Rams where he threw one of the most embarrassing interceptions I have ever seen, quit the game and pouted on the sideline, and the contract hold out which made him look like a total diva that hadn’t won shit. That’s Kylers rep to the national media now. It’ll be on him to fix it when he comes back. Just stick with looking at the local guys if you want accurate takes on him because I’m telling you, that’s all the big media remembers.
He's on the anti -Kyler, anti - Cardinals bandwagon big time. Anytime he's on Get Up ( every day ? ) or a few of the other ESPN shows like NFL Live or First Take, and any pro-Cardinal or pro-Kyler discussion happens, Dan always provides the opposite negative take. He doesn't like Kyler or the Cardinals.
Yeah,
I truly doubt a single person with true knowledge will talk to some source before he’s even back. If anything it would leak when conversations begin with teams and that’s where info comes from.
Constant hate from zero real sources.
Damn actually surprised you know about the video and not the article. The video came out yesterday and then the media worked tirelessly all night to release “the cardinals are not sure if Murray will be their qb next year” at 9am EST (source: trust me bro). It’s an ESPN article
Yeah if you follow the bigger publications and not the cardinals beat writers you would have never known about the colt video 😭😭. They released the ESPN article 9am EST which is just mind boggling because it shows they saw the colt video and quickly had to counter it by working all night
It's amazing how far the saying " out of sight, out of mind " goes when it comes to national sports media and many Cardinal fans too. Kyler is an afterthought when sports media occasionally discuss the Cardinal team going forward. It's widely assumed by national sports media that Kyler is gone next year, no matter how good he looks upon his return. How fast they all forgot how talented and electric Kyler has been with even a bad and sometimes semi - competent OL and skill position group around him.
Yeah I’m from NY and all my friends often bring up “he had HOP AND HOLLYWOOD”…. Like yeah for a whopping less than a god damn quarter of football…. The 3 of those guys played on the same field together for less than a quarter of football. Kind of wild
What do either of those things have to do with what OP posted? "He got hurt, so we should be allowed to drag him through the mud and attack his character." That's some pretty fucked up logic.
All but 1 season,
And 0/1
Even then that shows your like a giants fan or something vouching for Daniel nickels 😭😭
Kyler has produced IN SPITE of lacking an oline and competent coaching staff
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This comment made me think of the people that booed when Dan Majerle was drafted by the Suns. Or people being upset that the Cardinals drafted Fitz because "we already had a #1 receiver with Boldin.
>Or people being upset that the Cardinals drafted Fitz because "we already had a #1 receiver with Boldin.
I mean, we had Josh McCown and Shaun King as our QBs. There was debate as to whether the Cardinals should draft a QB (they were high on Rothlisberger) over best player available, which they had Fitz as #1 on their board. Their offensive coordinator at the time, Alex Wood, said that if they had to do the draft over again, the Cardinals probably would have drafted Rothlisberger instead, considering how hard it is finding stability and longetivity at the QB position.
People can’t seem to realize that this coaching staff and offensive system is helping Joshua Dobbs play like a (statistically) top 10 QB. Now you insert Kyler who is much more talented that Dobbs (still love yew Dobbs) and this offense is going to be pretty damn good. If Kyler didn’t have that awful pick 6 against the rams in the playoffs, I don’t think he would get shit on nearly as much. Dudes a baller and I’m stoked he’s our quarterback.
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How's the Facebook comments, everybody seems to think Dobbs is better than Murray? Wtf is wrong with this team's fans. Why does Murray cop so much hate?
I keep seeing people saying Dobbs is playing great. He’s playing serviceable, there’s a difference. With their logic, Mahomrs should’ve never taken over for Alex Smith
Don't forget Graziano also said his sources told him Vance Joseph was going to be the next HC.
ESPN in general has become a joke
Colt McCoy is a real cool dude. Bummer we had to cut him, but he’s such a great guy. Always positive, always speaking well of others. Hope he finds plenty of success with whatever he pursues post-NFL.
Sounds like every article that raising zona c*** posts. I know where my loyalties lie and is usually not where the prolific media Posters write including forums.
I spend very little time on the talking heads in sports no matter the media platform . They are performing more than anything else.
Is this regarding the Bleacher Report article siting “speculation from outside the organization” as a reason they think the Cardinals will move on from Kyler after the season?
The Bleacher Report article was based on the ESPN article by graziano
Ahh ok, I missed that one I guess haha
It’s a sh*t article. It’s 100% speculation from people that hardly matter but done to stir the pot.
It’s just how it is. Kyler really brought this shit on himself imo. You have to understand the big media guys who cover the entire NFL do not necessarily have time to hyper focus on every team in the NFL. It’s always only going to be the big market teams (Cowboys, Giants, Steelers) and whoever is good. The Cardinals had the spotlight in 2021 and what those guys are going to remember is that playoff game against the Rams where he threw one of the most embarrassing interceptions I have ever seen, quit the game and pouted on the sideline, and the contract hold out which made him look like a total diva that hadn’t won shit. That’s Kylers rep to the national media now. It’ll be on him to fix it when he comes back. Just stick with looking at the local guys if you want accurate takes on him because I’m telling you, that’s all the big media remembers.
No one should take anything Graziano says seriously
He's on the anti -Kyler, anti - Cardinals bandwagon big time. Anytime he's on Get Up ( every day ? ) or a few of the other ESPN shows like NFL Live or First Take, and any pro-Cardinal or pro-Kyler discussion happens, Dan always provides the opposite negative take. He doesn't like Kyler or the Cardinals.
Is he a close friend of Keim’s?🤔
Hey take me seriously
Hi Graziano!
Haha I've almost never seen someone with my last name so it's still weird seeing it on ESPN.. But hello!
Oh, that's literally your last name, haha! Well then I guess I meant it sincerely! lol
😂😂
Yeah, I truly doubt a single person with true knowledge will talk to some source before he’s even back. If anything it would leak when conversations begin with teams and that’s where info comes from. Constant hate from zero real sources.
I’m familiar with the Colt video but what was the fabricated post about Kyler?
Damn actually surprised you know about the video and not the article. The video came out yesterday and then the media worked tirelessly all night to release “the cardinals are not sure if Murray will be their qb next year” at 9am EST (source: trust me bro). It’s an ESPN article
That’s probably why. I follow a lot of the Cardinals beat writers but I have tried to avoid a lot of the bigger publications. Thanks for the info!
Yeah if you follow the bigger publications and not the cardinals beat writers you would have never known about the colt video 😭😭. They released the ESPN article 9am EST which is just mind boggling because it shows they saw the colt video and quickly had to counter it by working all night
It's amazing how far the saying " out of sight, out of mind " goes when it comes to national sports media and many Cardinal fans too. Kyler is an afterthought when sports media occasionally discuss the Cardinal team going forward. It's widely assumed by national sports media that Kyler is gone next year, no matter how good he looks upon his return. How fast they all forgot how talented and electric Kyler has been with even a bad and sometimes semi - competent OL and skill position group around him.
Yeah I’m from NY and all my friends often bring up “he had HOP AND HOLLYWOOD”…. Like yeah for a whopping less than a god damn quarter of football…. The 3 of those guys played on the same field together for less than a quarter of football. Kind of wild
whats the video anyone have a link?
https://x.com/bobrack/status/1710045849970196522?s=46&t=NKTTlIgypbNjIoqdw-P6SA
kyler is the most talented QB we’ve ever had and not building around him would be a stupid decision
Yeah, if it bleeds or it leads.
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That’s not relevant. The fact you chose that for your argument speaks volumes lol
What do either of those things have to do with what OP posted? "He got hurt, so we should be allowed to drag him through the mud and attack his character." That's some pretty fucked up logic.
He’s an angry jackass, that’s why he brings up bad faith arguments and don’t even respond when people call him out on his bull shit.
All but 1 season, And 0/1 Even then that shows your like a giants fan or something vouching for Daniel nickels 😭😭 Kyler has produced IN SPITE of lacking an oline and competent coaching staff
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You are a miserable ass fan. Why are you even here? Coward fake fan won’t reply either when people call his bull shit out.
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We’re ready to move on from you as part of the fan base. Bitches but wont rebuttal. Typical.
This comment made me think of the people that booed when Dan Majerle was drafted by the Suns. Or people being upset that the Cardinals drafted Fitz because "we already had a #1 receiver with Boldin.
>Or people being upset that the Cardinals drafted Fitz because "we already had a #1 receiver with Boldin. I mean, we had Josh McCown and Shaun King as our QBs. There was debate as to whether the Cardinals should draft a QB (they were high on Rothlisberger) over best player available, which they had Fitz as #1 on their board. Their offensive coordinator at the time, Alex Wood, said that if they had to do the draft over again, the Cardinals probably would have drafted Rothlisberger instead, considering how hard it is finding stability and longetivity at the QB position.
Will do.🫡
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Fuck no lmao, moving on from him was one of the best moves Keim made 😂
No cause we know bad when we see bad and Kyler isn’t bad at all
People can’t seem to realize that this coaching staff and offensive system is helping Joshua Dobbs play like a (statistically) top 10 QB. Now you insert Kyler who is much more talented that Dobbs (still love yew Dobbs) and this offense is going to be pretty damn good. If Kyler didn’t have that awful pick 6 against the rams in the playoffs, I don’t think he would get shit on nearly as much. Dudes a baller and I’m stoked he’s our quarterback.
It’s tough for some to process that coaching plays a big part in a players development / play.
Which is wild because for those that don’t seem to comprehend that, what the hell do they think an entire coaching staff does?
Apparently just call shitty plays and help draft shitty players and collect a paycheck whilst looking cute on the sideline.
Kyler Murray is the man
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