True. But my training at each place was less than stellar. My current company? I took over from the previous person that literally ran out on the job, when they discovered she was stealing money.
I had such little training and it just made life a bit weird for a few months, but I’m in such a better place now that I know how everything works and I’ve even implemented some changes that my boss has whole-heartedly supported.
I'm glad that they're merciful to me, taking it easy with me at first, but who knows how long that'll last for. It's a local state government job, so yeah the learning curve is high rofl
**And the dude is going the federal route too haha**
We've (state gov job) lost like 4 people to the IRS in the past 3 months or so...can't blame them when its like an extra 30-40k doing basically the same thing.
Lmaoo
My university hired me 5% above minimum wage as a temp and the interview only took 3 minutes.
When I asked what do I do they seemed so surprised. The person supposed to train me only worked from home and I was in office.
The workforce is just shit when it comes to training, development, and retention. Someone way back when realized it's so much cheaper to hire the fresh fish out of college and throw them in burning hot magma.
For software engineers the interviews are long and intense. I feel like in accounting the interviews are pretty frickin chill. No hour long coding tests, no super long interviews.
I guess we pay for it on the back end tho. The job environments are pretty bad in accounting. And they will throw as much work onto you as you are willing to take-even until you break-supervisors don't care. It's like this whole industry is just worried about the next deadline or close. Long term problems and understaffed, low resources are totally shoved under the rug.
The real long term problem is talent. My wife is a school teacher and told me 8th grade American students don't know that a vowel comes after the word "an" and a consonant comes after the word "a". If a student can't get that then how are they ever going to learn debits and credits. Guess I gotta start learning to automate.
It's sad but so very true.... Those days seem long gone where one can work at a place for 5-10+ years with it all: good enough pay, good team, good benefits, and good work-life balance... I feel your pain, also in accounting...
And some people question why we complain so much about the profession. Every job is like this with their own issues, but for accounting there are specialized reasons for turnover haha
I’ve been at once place 8 years. We had a brand new team as the company moved states. Literally 16 new accountants 3 of us are left and I feel like that’s decent
3/16 not bad. Some places clean house with the entire department within 6 months to a year haha
What made you stay for 8 years and not want to go to other places?
I don’t like job hopping, it’s not my thing. I get extreme anxiety over moving jobs. Plus I struggle with the learning curve of different places. I need to know what I’m doing well.
I hear you on the hopping; I don’t like it either. Anytime I move I go with the mindset of this is where I plan to stay; but then their ugly side comes out within 3 months. I stay until u can’t bear it anymore. Current place I’m 8 months in and everything is just as it was on day 1. Company is super chill, coworkers are great. I feel like it’s safe to say that I’ve found my “home”.
Makes me think that it's better to be a Senior Accountant and then just milk it.
Cuz with controller I see/hear that your thrown into a situation with not enough resources (staff) and then you end up putting in lots of overtime trying to survive. Accounting departments always on the verge of collapsing due to high turnover. Prob just startups tho
But I have seen chill controller positions too at larger companies.
Definitely feels like a common occurrence. First 2 industry jobs out of public, each manager left after 3 months. It led to more experience but a lot of learning on the fly.
Started a new job 3 weeks ago. I replaced a guy who got fired. The day before I started, another person quit. I’m now doing the work of 2 people and there were no written procedures. Everyday I discover more accounting f uck ups that I have to correct. And it’s year end audit, with endless audit questions.
I was the manager who left an intern hanging once. I was interviewing when intern was sprung on me, which further reinforced I should be leaving. I felt bad for her, I really didn't have any busy work to give her much less something thought out and meaningful.
Maybe it's just me but I need a little chaos to spice up my life. Nothing like being thrown in the deep end to learn how to swim, which is how I finally learned to actually swim.
My controller was fired 3 days before I started. 6 months into my part-time role and they are considering me as the replacement once my degree is finished.
Standard operating procedures fancy terminology. Yeah, they'll be patient if I seem attentive and do the work, I have 1 year until deciding to go federal, industry, or Amazon Warehouse worker. :P
My first week at my first real job out of college for a government contractor…raided by FBI, DCMA and other agencies over kickbacks. They took all of our files and most of the hard drives. Disbarred from contracts for a year and was sold. Within 4yrs at my next accounting job my boss was killed in a freak car accident while on vacation AND the replacement kept secret he had cancer and chose to ignore it. Randomly died one weekend. Next replacement was fired a week after I quit as it was being worked on for a month, lol. Waiting to see what happens as my current job.
I've been in the same boat
First job I got outta college working for a casino
Guy who was supposed to train me went on vacation left me to fend for myself
After I left couple of months later I saw the vp of finance left he was a cool dude
And another coworker left for better position in Vegas
I knew it wasn't going to work out for me though and started applying for jobs
Landed 3 roles and went government like you
Within going to government when I started I think two people left one retired if you can call it that really they got hurt from surgery gone bad
Other had left and went back to working in non profit she was a decent person but I'm guessing there were issues / conflicts on the department of audit she was in
Another person retired now that I'm think about it but I was I think 6 months in
And 2 people resigned immediately funny thing is I knew why and to be fair I don't blame them
But op what department and level of government do you work in ?
I was fortunate to have a boss who was an incredible mentor for roughly the first 6 six years of my career. However, I learned the most once he left and was left to do it myself.
Not quite an accountant yet, but I do work for AP/AR in a government job...and yes there is hardly true on-the-job training at all. My supervisor is way too busy with facility demand, person who was training me shortly left and I was the only person in that department, so a lot of the learning was self-taught. I don't regret it though, made me self-sufficient, independent, and I learned a whole lot. Did I have to work my ass off and sweat, close to the bounds of quitting sometimes? Yes. lol
It sucks but being thrown into the fire does make you develop skills a lot faster and problems that you used to think were big become easier and easier to overcome.
My industry job has a few aspects to it that are a little confusing/wacky and the training was basically "sit there and watch/listen closely while the supervisor handles it one time, then every time after that it's your problem!" The "learn or die" approach worked great for me but some people hate it/complain about it.
Yes, every job that I have enjoyed has started out on very shaky ground. Made me self sufficient, which made me happier to be there.
You gotta have the self-inert brain cells to truly be ahead tbh
True. But my training at each place was less than stellar. My current company? I took over from the previous person that literally ran out on the job, when they discovered she was stealing money. I had such little training and it just made life a bit weird for a few months, but I’m in such a better place now that I know how everything works and I’ve even implemented some changes that my boss has whole-heartedly supported.
Yep, sometimes the right place presents the right opportunity my friend
You must be new around here.
I'm a veteran here bro, I'm shocked that I'm just noticing this lol
Turnover is high for many reasons lol
Yeah, most jobs are a shitshow lol
Dude its a government job, thats an excellent cop out excuse hahaha
I'm glad that they're merciful to me, taking it easy with me at first, but who knows how long that'll last for. It's a local state government job, so yeah the learning curve is high rofl **And the dude is going the federal route too haha**
We've (state gov job) lost like 4 people to the IRS in the past 3 months or so...can't blame them when its like an extra 30-40k doing basically the same thing.
Is it worth the extra money to be a fedboi?
Lmaoo My university hired me 5% above minimum wage as a temp and the interview only took 3 minutes. When I asked what do I do they seemed so surprised. The person supposed to train me only worked from home and I was in office. The workforce is just shit when it comes to training, development, and retention. Someone way back when realized it's so much cheaper to hire the fresh fish out of college and throw them in burning hot magma.
For software engineers the interviews are long and intense. I feel like in accounting the interviews are pretty frickin chill. No hour long coding tests, no super long interviews. I guess we pay for it on the back end tho. The job environments are pretty bad in accounting. And they will throw as much work onto you as you are willing to take-even until you break-supervisors don't care. It's like this whole industry is just worried about the next deadline or close. Long term problems and understaffed, low resources are totally shoved under the rug.
The real long term problem is talent. My wife is a school teacher and told me 8th grade American students don't know that a vowel comes after the word "an" and a consonant comes after the word "a". If a student can't get that then how are they ever going to learn debits and credits. Guess I gotta start learning to automate.
It sounds like there's no such thing as a golden place to work for lol The grass is only greener where you water it.
It's sad but so very true.... Those days seem long gone where one can work at a place for 5-10+ years with it all: good enough pay, good team, good benefits, and good work-life balance... I feel your pain, also in accounting...
*look at username Yeah that explain everything
I always fall for their posts lmao, then I read the comments
Been at it 13 years, just how it is
And some people question why we complain so much about the profession. Every job is like this with their own issues, but for accounting there are specialized reasons for turnover haha
I’ve been at once place 8 years. We had a brand new team as the company moved states. Literally 16 new accountants 3 of us are left and I feel like that’s decent
3/16 not bad. Some places clean house with the entire department within 6 months to a year haha What made you stay for 8 years and not want to go to other places?
I don’t like job hopping, it’s not my thing. I get extreme anxiety over moving jobs. Plus I struggle with the learning curve of different places. I need to know what I’m doing well.
I hear you on the hopping; I don’t like it either. Anytime I move I go with the mindset of this is where I plan to stay; but then their ugly side comes out within 3 months. I stay until u can’t bear it anymore. Current place I’m 8 months in and everything is just as it was on day 1. Company is super chill, coworkers are great. I feel like it’s safe to say that I’ve found my “home”.
Hell Ya! Wishing you the best.
Makes me think that it's better to be a Senior Accountant and then just milk it. Cuz with controller I see/hear that your thrown into a situation with not enough resources (staff) and then you end up putting in lots of overtime trying to survive. Accounting departments always on the verge of collapsing due to high turnover. Prob just startups tho But I have seen chill controller positions too at larger companies.
This is why when I have a job I like I enjoy it in the moment bc it probably won’t last forever!
Just like how I enjoy being the voice of r/accounting sometimes. It feels good that I'm not the only one alone with my thoughts haha
new hellstorm post just dropped.
Basically despite what your parents and teachers have said - you are not gods gift and nothing special. Cest la vie
Definitely feels like a common occurrence. First 2 industry jobs out of public, each manager left after 3 months. It led to more experience but a lot of learning on the fly.
Started a new job 3 weeks ago. I replaced a guy who got fired. The day before I started, another person quit. I’m now doing the work of 2 people and there were no written procedures. Everyday I discover more accounting f uck ups that I have to correct. And it’s year end audit, with endless audit questions.
People are assholes man that’s all there is to it. We live in a society.
People leaving their job makes them an asshole?
Just one?
have you tried wikiHow? yeah didnt thinks so lol
It’s turnover it happens all the fucking time
I was the manager who left an intern hanging once. I was interviewing when intern was sprung on me, which further reinforced I should be leaving. I felt bad for her, I really didn't have any busy work to give her much less something thought out and meaningful.
Maybe it's just me but I need a little chaos to spice up my life. Nothing like being thrown in the deep end to learn how to swim, which is how I finally learned to actually swim.
My controller was fired 3 days before I started. 6 months into my part-time role and they are considering me as the replacement once my degree is finished.
In almost all cases you were hired because a problem existed. Very rarely is it simply "because growth".
This is the same in every career
At the government job, just ask for the DTI/SOP and you will be fine.
Standard operating procedures fancy terminology. Yeah, they'll be patient if I seem attentive and do the work, I have 1 year until deciding to go federal, industry, or Amazon Warehouse worker. :P
Sink or swim baby
My first week at my first real job out of college for a government contractor…raided by FBI, DCMA and other agencies over kickbacks. They took all of our files and most of the hard drives. Disbarred from contracts for a year and was sold. Within 4yrs at my next accounting job my boss was killed in a freak car accident while on vacation AND the replacement kept secret he had cancer and chose to ignore it. Randomly died one weekend. Next replacement was fired a week after I quit as it was being worked on for a month, lol. Waiting to see what happens as my current job.
Damm, the Asteroid is coming next.
I've been in the same boat First job I got outta college working for a casino Guy who was supposed to train me went on vacation left me to fend for myself After I left couple of months later I saw the vp of finance left he was a cool dude And another coworker left for better position in Vegas I knew it wasn't going to work out for me though and started applying for jobs Landed 3 roles and went government like you Within going to government when I started I think two people left one retired if you can call it that really they got hurt from surgery gone bad Other had left and went back to working in non profit she was a decent person but I'm guessing there were issues / conflicts on the department of audit she was in Another person retired now that I'm think about it but I was I think 6 months in And 2 people resigned immediately funny thing is I knew why and to be fair I don't blame them But op what department and level of government do you work in ?
I was fortunate to have a boss who was an incredible mentor for roughly the first 6 six years of my career. However, I learned the most once he left and was left to do it myself.
Not quite an accountant yet, but I do work for AP/AR in a government job...and yes there is hardly true on-the-job training at all. My supervisor is way too busy with facility demand, person who was training me shortly left and I was the only person in that department, so a lot of the learning was self-taught. I don't regret it though, made me self-sufficient, independent, and I learned a whole lot. Did I have to work my ass off and sweat, close to the bounds of quitting sometimes? Yes. lol
Because nothing in life is perfect and when you look for flaws you will inevitably find it
Welcome to the shit show lol
It sucks but being thrown into the fire does make you develop skills a lot faster and problems that you used to think were big become easier and easier to overcome.
It's a high turnover profession so I get it.
I'm queen of getting thrown in the deep end and having to reinvent the wheel cause nobody thinks to write anything down.
My industry job has a few aspects to it that are a little confusing/wacky and the training was basically "sit there and watch/listen closely while the supervisor handles it one time, then every time after that it's your problem!" The "learn or die" approach worked great for me but some people hate it/complain about it.