I once had an actuarial math prep class where the professor tried to simulate the actuarial exam (it’s curved based on average score). A C was like a 32% it was such a hard exam lmfao
Same. At my school, most accounting classes passed with anywhere from a 45-60 with a C. (65 was a C). Depended on the class.
As a professor explained, they also are reviewed and if their classes don’t fall in to a certain % it’s a sign they’re not doing their job right, so they like ..adjust their exams accordingly and curve to the right spot.
To be fair, academics usually understand the concepts extremely well and most times, the real world will consult them. Where they would have less experience is the client service aspect.
Your example isn't great. Anyone experienced looking at accounting controls would agree with the theory that the situation is bad and should be avoided. The only reason why that's common is because people either don't understand the risk or don't accept the risk for extremely small companies over the cost of splitting it.
I'm sure there are other instances where theory doesn't fully apply though.
I think different countries' system. Here in Australia, a 50% is a pass; 70-79% is Distinction and 80-100% is High Distinction. Was it easy to at least get 50% on those tests based on where you live? It's definitely not too difficult to get 70% but definitely not easy either
Certain courses require the class average to be at a certain GPA average at the direction of the school. So professors will make their tests extremely difficult to keep the class average below that threshold. Then grade on a curve to meet that average. It's more ethical to do that then to grade down on a curve. Hopefully that makes more sense.
Why not? What's stopping a college professor from making a class so difficult no one can pass or making a class too easy. This is how reputable colleges ensure standards are met.
Your comment makes no sense either. What backwards upside down logic are you trying to follow? That’s not how college works. I’m a professor. We don’t do this ridiculous shit you’re describing.
It makes perfect sense. Obviously there's more to it like curriculums etc. But yeah I don't know what backwoods community college you teach at but that's how top business schools enforce difficulties of classes depending on the year you are at.
I'll be honest, one look through your post history makes me glad I'm not your student. I'm not claiming to know shit about shit (my dad and brother are both educators, but I am not), but I think after the two straight terms of "no one can pass my quizzes/tests", maybe you might have a look at your methodology before assuming that you've just been unlucky enough to get (at least) two straight terms full of people completely unable to pass your classes or read your syllabus. Just sayin 🤷♂️
I wish you well regardless. It looks like you could use a break and I hope you get one.
Plenty of people pass my quizzes, and while far too many students don’t read the syllabus it’s not everyone. I usually end up with a pretty normal grade distribution. The poor students occupy all my time and energy though so those are the ones I complain about. Post COVID has been worse.
Whaaaaat?
In Ontario, for highschool and univeristy, it was
50-59 - D
60-69 - C
70-79 - B
80-100 - A
an average below a 70 booted you from the accounting program..
I was so proud of my 69% that I showed it to my American friend. After the required "nice" she said it sucked I had such a low grade. There was a lot of confused back and forth until we realized America's school system is ridiculous
51% is straight F where I went to school unless the teacher curves the score.
If avg grade is lower than a D in college, school puts you on probation and gives 2 quarters to bring grades up. If not, get kick out
Good point. I did my BS in business admin so I did the same. I should have rephrased it to say if accounting is their major, they should think about finding a different one before they hit intermediate haha.
We had to maintain at least a 3.0 at my school to stay in the accounting program. I hope this guy is referring to a intro to accounting class and it's not his major.
At a big 4 firm? I didn’t.
Public accounting isn’t the only thing you can do with this degree much as your school tells you.
I wound up at big 4 a bit down the road, lasted a few months. I do accounting software consulting now.
Have a CPA, am probably going to wind up inactive. I don’t use it outside of the letters at the end of my emails.
I rather work with someone who gets a C- and knows they suck, than with someone who gets an A and thinks they know everything. There’s so many morons in this field that think they know wtf is going on because they did good in a few random college classes.
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In what world is a 51.1% a C? That’d be a straight F where I went lol. Needed a 73% or higher to pass most classes.
Same.. you’d be kicked out of the accounting major if not the college of commerce with a 51 where i go
Likewise
I once had an actuarial math prep class where the professor tried to simulate the actuarial exam (it’s curved based on average score). A C was like a 32% it was such a hard exam lmfao
Same. At my school, most accounting classes passed with anywhere from a 45-60 with a C. (65 was a C). Depended on the class. As a professor explained, they also are reviewed and if their classes don’t fall in to a certain % it’s a sign they’re not doing their job right, so they like ..adjust their exams accordingly and curve to the right spot.
Calc 2 at michigan was like that. Every goddamn test.
Bell curve? Maybe it's 51.1 out of 80. Lol!
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What class was this damn.
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To be fair, academics usually understand the concepts extremely well and most times, the real world will consult them. Where they would have less experience is the client service aspect.
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Your example isn't great. Anyone experienced looking at accounting controls would agree with the theory that the situation is bad and should be avoided. The only reason why that's common is because people either don't understand the risk or don't accept the risk for extremely small companies over the cost of splitting it. I'm sure there are other instances where theory doesn't fully apply though.
I think different countries' system. Here in Australia, a 50% is a pass; 70-79% is Distinction and 80-100% is High Distinction. Was it easy to at least get 50% on those tests based on where you live? It's definitely not too difficult to get 70% but definitely not easy either
>In what world is a 51.1% a C? In a world wear they grade on a curve?
Curves make no sense - ok none of you know jack shit so let me just lower the scale so you pass anyway
Certain courses require the class average to be at a certain GPA average at the direction of the school. So professors will make their tests extremely difficult to keep the class average below that threshold. Then grade on a curve to meet that average. It's more ethical to do that then to grade down on a curve. Hopefully that makes more sense.
Requiring a class average to be at a certain level does not make sense at all, so no. That’s not how assessment works.
Why not? What's stopping a college professor from making a class so difficult no one can pass or making a class too easy. This is how reputable colleges ensure standards are met.
Your comment makes no sense either. What backwards upside down logic are you trying to follow? That’s not how college works. I’m a professor. We don’t do this ridiculous shit you’re describing.
It makes perfect sense. Obviously there's more to it like curriculums etc. But yeah I don't know what backwoods community college you teach at but that's how top business schools enforce difficulties of classes depending on the year you are at.
I'll be honest, one look through your post history makes me glad I'm not your student. I'm not claiming to know shit about shit (my dad and brother are both educators, but I am not), but I think after the two straight terms of "no one can pass my quizzes/tests", maybe you might have a look at your methodology before assuming that you've just been unlucky enough to get (at least) two straight terms full of people completely unable to pass your classes or read your syllabus. Just sayin 🤷♂️ I wish you well regardless. It looks like you could use a break and I hope you get one.
Plenty of people pass my quizzes, and while far too many students don’t read the syllabus it’s not everyone. I usually end up with a pretty normal grade distribution. The poor students occupy all my time and energy though so those are the ones I complain about. Post COVID has been worse.
With your intelligence god knows how your a CPA I certainly wouldn’t trust you to do my businesses accounting.
What fucked up school did you people go to? Also you’re going to criticize my intelligence and you can’t even use your/you’re correctly?
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Good Ole canada
Not aiming for CPA? Pretty sure your Core CPA courses need to be C+ or above.
Whaaaaat? In Ontario, for highschool and univeristy, it was 50-59 - D 60-69 - C 70-79 - B 80-100 - A an average below a 70 booted you from the accounting program..
I was so proud of my 69% that I showed it to my American friend. After the required "nice" she said it sucked I had such a low grade. There was a lot of confused back and forth until we realized America's school system is ridiculous
Yeah my schoom requires at least a 2.5 gpa in accounting courses or else you are kicked out even if you have a 2.49
In some countries they scale it different and have harder clases
51% is straight F where I went to school unless the teacher curves the score. If avg grade is lower than a D in college, school puts you on probation and gives 2 quarters to bring grades up. If not, get kick out
Seriously what the fuck
It's called a Curve. I once had a professor so bad that a C- was in the 30%
Lmao, mine were 80 100-99 were for an A
In University of South Africa, a C is a distinction 😂👍
Schools different now, in a lot of places in NA it’s basically impossible to get an actual F or be held back.
I needed a B lol
R.I.P to your grade 🫡
I was at 36% before I discovered r/accounting
Is this a high school course? If this is college I’d suggest thinking about looking into other majors…
Probably isn’t an accounting major, most business majors have to take financial and managerial accounting as core courses for their major
Good point. I did my BS in business admin so I did the same. I should have rephrased it to say if accounting is their major, they should think about finding a different one before they hit intermediate haha.
Jesus dude lol
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I actually went into commercial banking
Accountant with no job out of school lol
Not if finished last equals failing grades though
Bruh think about that for a minute
Cs get degrees baby
We had to maintain at least a 3.0 at my school to stay in the accounting program. I hope this guy is referring to a intro to accounting class and it's not his major.
A 52.32 average in an intro class?
What fucking school was that? I got a degree in accounting rocking C’s the whole way
My school required a B (B- doesn't count) in both Financial and Managerial accounting to get into the Accounting major. Weed out classes man....
How did you get an internship? I was told 3.5-3.7 is what I need.
At a big 4 firm? I didn’t. Public accounting isn’t the only thing you can do with this degree much as your school tells you. I wound up at big 4 a bit down the road, lasted a few months. I do accounting software consulting now. Have a CPA, am probably going to wind up inactive. I don’t use it outside of the letters at the end of my emails.
Is this program GPA or cumulative GPA?
Fuck internships. Start at industry after graduation and work your way up
Cs also get CFE passes if you’re Canadian (C is competent)
Is your studying going ok?
“You guys are studying?”
I’ll answer for the man. No.
How is a C 51.1? Where I went a C was a 70-80% and if you had lower than a 3.75 your chances of going Big 4 were ruined.
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God damnit, this got me
Places where there’s a curve
In different countries my guy.
Honestly I think you may as well just take the CPA now
Nah fuck that, he doesn’t need to take it, they should just flat out give him the certification.
Let's be honest those that are taking the CPA exam a 75% is an A so when you look at that 51% it's not so bad.
Congratz on the passing grade! It is a reflection of how others did in the class as well. Loved those grading on a curve classes.
Good job! We’re all so proud of you!
You know what they say, C minuses get degrees.
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Congrats man
C’s Get Degree’s. And no one Cares about the Elijah Watt Sells award, get your 75 and keep moving.
How is 60% a C lol quite amazing actually
"Is this good grades for an accountant?"
I rather work with someone who gets a C- and knows they suck, than with someone who gets an A and thinks they know everything. There’s so many morons in this field that think they know wtf is going on because they did good in a few random college classes.
Yeah I agree, was just making a joke about all the "is this a good _______ for an accountant?" memes I've been seeing lately
And here I was, feeling bad for getting a B in some of my tax classes
A C won’t get you into Graduate School. You would barely graduate from my Alma Mater.
You might not be a straight a student but your one hell of a c student
LOL
Christ man even at my worst I never did this bad lol
congratulations on your future career as an accountant
Next time an accountant tries to tell me how to better manage my personal finances or my work budget, I'll remember this.
IA material right here.
This sub helped get those grades? I think the credit is all yours. Good luck next year
Since when is anything below a 77 a C?
Smells Canadian to me
No, 50% is like D-
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Maybe depends on the province but for Ontario, 50% was D-.
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It is like this in the States too
In my Canadian program you’ll be kicked from co op and honours if your average isn’t 70, and kicked from the graduate program with more than one 60
You called it 😂
Partner material
I feel like shit when I get an 80 or 70 on an exam 😂😂
50% ? Lol
Thanks for making me feel better about getting a C+ in Intermediate 2 =)
You, my friend, put the C in CPA.
😆😆 this is a joke
You don’t even need the requirements to sit for the CPA exam. With these grades they should license you on the spot!!
I am the lost of the lost. But congratulations!