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ThreeDSwayze

https://preview.redd.it/uf2v6ukh8x6d1.jpeg?width=2698&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51c05849b06cea1fcfd638c3fd9f91d5d879896d The big pepper stepper


doo_doo-fard

Love the name pepper <3 This is an easy one compared to some of the others 😆 Two mutated alleles! Tl;dr: black and tan + irish blaze type piebald The first is on the agouti locus, which controls pattern. The six patterns are solid red, sable, wolf grey (the pattern wolves are), saddle, black and tan, and solid black. However, solid black has another and MUCH more common cause, which is the same locus responsible for brindle. Solid black on agouti locus is *very* rare. Your cutie is black and tan, which fun fact is co-dominant with saddle. Instead of one gene out of the two being more dominant and expressing, it mizes to create wider face markings. The white patch is caused by one of the four alleles on the piebald locus. The four are: no white, irish blaze, patches, and solid white (not albino). Your dog has irish blaze, which is a less random type of piebald commonly seen in collies.


ThreeDSwayze

Thank you! I love my bully’s, I just don’t know any of the in depth breakdowns like this. She’s really a sweet heart.


doo_doo-fard

She looks it ❤️ It can be kinda hard to understand, but I love exploring colour morphs and stuff haha :)


Antique_Dust6504

How about puppy pics? Can you comment on a dog that’s not fully grown? Seems like some color morphs “shift” as they grow out of the earliest stages of life.


doo_doo-fard

Some do shift. Saddle, black and tan, and sable all can look like black and tan as puppies. The husky gene that turns agouti patterns more expanded (example: black and tan to the traditional husky pattern) can look like normal black and tan too. But usually by selling age they can be told apart somewhat acurrately.


Antique_Dust6504

Cool. Here goes. This is “ocho”he’s one of 6 from a recent litter. https://preview.redd.it/54ltg5kjdx6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a482ea271eb328d5b416ea1e293b09890207af5


doo_doo-fard

I'm going to guess dominant red agouti locus (mostly red with a teeny tiny bit of black around the eyes and ears) and dilute at the dilute locus (black > blue/grey). Also irish blaze at piebald locus for the white patch. Do you know both the parents? I wonder how right I was 😅


Antique_Dust6504

I do know the parents…they’re my dogs lol! Here’s dad: https://preview.redd.it/z3467p7ijx6d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fda0cef2ae3dd11b847c049b365e7d6454fe3966


Antique_Dust6504

Here’s mom: https://preview.redd.it/zm9d8zvnjx6d1.jpeg?width=3677&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ca5935fad918ef064c0a6eebab50b71fdb2fb61


Minimum_Check1603

My foster, Smush! https://preview.redd.it/w21s6r3jcx6d1.jpeg?width=2612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c23e5028309da8588704804fd293bc55955c681


doo_doo-fard

They look like a Smush 😂 Tl;dr: brindle + dilute + irish blaze piebald + ticking Black locus: Determines if a dog is solid black, black stripes on red areas (brindle) or normal. Smush is brindle. Dilute locus: Pigment can either be dense (black and brown) or dilute (blue/grey and silver). Your doggo is dilute. I love the colour of dilute dog noses hehe. Piebald locus: I swear every domestic animal comes in piebald... Lol anyway there are three types of piebald in dogs. Irish blaze, patches, and fully white. It's not fully understood which is more dominant and how the interact when one copy of two different piebald types interact. But I'd take a safe guess and say yours is irish blaze. Ticking locus: There are three genes on this locus. Ticking, roan and neither. Ticking is the spots and roan is the more fuzzy looking version of it. Your dog has two copies of ticking, but could have one copy of ticking and one copy of no ticking if the spotting is very light. Ticking just kinda makes holes in any white areas and shows the colour underneath. Very nice looking doggo!


Minimum_Check1603

Thank you so much! That is fascinating and will give me lots of reading to do in the next few days! Can you do my Cooper? https://preview.redd.it/7pxhef1mo17d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f7d179ad963e14a7e3f476468bf7b5203f03aa2


_kiki23

https://preview.redd.it/pnbls16fsx6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a844a46da3b41dc42b0bc90429f3ac0cce9e787 My boy Bao! 🥟


Yellow_Strong1

https://preview.redd.it/trzu0h2luw6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00adb8f6070d3ea1745ef56dceef16515a150300 Here’s my baby.


doo_doo-fard

Bootiful! <3 Black locus: Your doggo isn't solid black or brindle, so considered the wildtype. Agouti locus: Controls the pattern of red and black. Your doggo has black back, also called black and tan or pointed black. Bacially when the part that makes the back of the dog have bands of black and red fails and instead creates all black there. It's recessive to recessive black but dominant to every other agouti mutation. Merle locus: Random dilution basically. Your dog is co-dominant for merle and non-merle. Full merle would create almost fully white colour. Dilute locus: Decides the density of pigment, and your dog is dilute so he looks blue or grey :) It's recessive.


Yellow_Strong1

Unfortunately I don’t really know what any of that means. However, there is no black or grey on my dog.


doo_doo-fard

Blue = grey Same thing same gene haha. ..... The basic of it is: Your dog has patches of darker blue and lighter blue on it's body, plus some cute little red markings on the legs/face :)


ROGUE1xcii

Here's my boy Cash. https://preview.redd.it/ewfqidnj4x6d1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16297992f71f6e36b289de824b13ed9467e00c23


doo_doo-fard

Love the name Cash! And his colour is gorgeous, like a pretty fog 🥰 Is he still a baby or does he just look small haha? First of all, the obvious. The agouti locus (locus meaning which gene is mutating in various ways) controls pattern. There are six patterns. Solid red, sable, wolf grey, saddle, black and tan, and solid black (in order of dominance). Your cutie is black and tan and likely not carrying any other pattern (so two copies of black/tan gene). Second of all is the silvery coat caused by two different genes. The first gene is the recessive brown gene which changes the structure of black to make it brown. And when the brown pigment dilutes due to the dilute/blue gene, it becomes this silvery colour and usually turns the eyes a bluey-green and the skin a pinkish-brown. And lasty the cute white chest. There are four alleles at the piebald locus. No white, irish blaze, patching, and white. Bullies carry both irish blaze and patching and it's not too well known how the genes interact. I'd take a guess and say your boy has two copies of the irish blaze gene. Hope you found this interesting :)


ROGUE1xcii

Yes he's still a puppy, just under 5 months old! This was a really interesting read! Thank you, i appreciate it 🙏🏻


sowellhidden

https://preview.redd.it/0ojwfap9fy6d1.jpeg?width=4624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1f7804971e9253d284852f9f09c2ec9da20a675 Cool post!


sowellhidden

https://preview.redd.it/d91e75wyfy6d1.jpeg?width=2604&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d54c9008f1e1f4a7a2762f3b97616039f46ecdcd Better focus


fullofquestions90

Oh I wish mine was as muscular 😍 She kind of is, but ooo, beautiful dog!


Right_Biscotti7525

https://preview.redd.it/qgu1evzqex6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95b01bf7f0b550065b0e887329af5a3eaa368328 My baby girl ❤️ (more blue spots on her, the ones on her back can be more black than blue)


doo_doo-fard

Black locus: Whether a dog is solid black, brindle or normal is up to this locus. Looks like your adorable girl is solid black. Dilute locus: Dense pigments such as black and brown can be diluted to dilute pigments such as blue and silver. I think your girl is a blue/grey (dilute black). Piebald locus: Three types of piebald are irish blaze, patches and white. Looks like your lady is patched :) Adorable doggo, by the way <3


Right_Biscotti7525

That’s so cool thank you!! I’m going to google all of these things to get one more obsessive fact about my chonky girl. Thank you, she and the cats are the daily light of my life ❤️


dontsleepdream

https://preview.redd.it/oa07ab2pjx6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa0121b9df7685955d8ef889b91fe993c4d5b361 Milo man


doo_doo-fard

I love me a black and white doggo 🖤🤍🖤🤍 Tl;dr: dominant solid black + irish blaze type piebald There are two causes of solid black in dogs. The most common is the black locus (also responsible for brindle). His pattern at the agouti locus (dominant red, sable, wolf grey/agouti, saddle, black and tan, black) will not show. This is a dominant gene. The second cause is the much, much, rarer agouti locus black. So even if your dog is not black or brindle, the black at the agouti locus will make him solid black. This is recessive and very rare. It is possible to have both agouti locus and black locus be black at the same time, but the agouti locus black is very rare. And now, onto his cute socks and suit. Piebaldism in dogs comes in three types. Irish blaze, patches, and solid white. Your doggo is a beautiful example of irish blaze. Nice and uniform. <3


LobsterBeneficial448

https://preview.redd.it/oe51yotbtx6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d84431672935b87385af8d16f30d54db18b61bf0 My boy Benji🤍


doo_doo-fard

Aw Tl;dr: brindle + dominant red + patchy type piebald Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. Your dog is brindle (either brindle/brindle, or brindle/neither). Agouti locus: Dominant yellow/sable/wolf grey/saddle/black and tan/rare recessive black. Your dog is dominant red (either dominant red/dominant red, or dominant red/any other allele since it is dominant). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Your dog has patchy type (either patchy/patchy, or patchy/white).


Federal_Detective213

https://preview.redd.it/asfr14zbty6d1.jpeg?width=1068&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf6cb239e9b924051d6d269da8b56bcd4a78483a


doo_doo-fard

Tl;dr: dominant black + irish blaze type piebald (front) & dominant black + dilute + irish blaze type piebald (back) Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. Both dogs are solid black (either black/black, or black/any other allele since it is dominant). Dilute locus: Dense/dilute. The back dog is dilute (dilute/dilute since it is recessive). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Both dogs have irish blaze type (either irish/irish, irish/patchy, or irish/white).


Melbabe79

https://preview.redd.it/dkofskztxy6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a34385549a327bf8479514512b67f36988c41b8 My buddy ❤️


doo_doo-fard

Aw, did they go camping? Tl;dr: Dominant black + dilute + irish blaze type piebalding Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. Your dog is solid black (either black/black, or black/any other allele since it is dominant). Dilute locus: Dense/dilute. Your dog is dilute (dilute/dilute since it is recessive). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Your dog has irish blaze type (either irish/irish, irish/patchy, or irish/white).


Melbabe79

He likes to sit with his dad while having a fire 🥰 I have always wondered his coloring


This-Let-9384

https://preview.redd.it/yton82q1sz6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf1dcb681b719ce1012b4d434f615dda76aa29ee Ruben ♥️


doo_doo-fard

Looks like a sweetheart <3 tl;dr: black and tan + dilute + irish blaze type piebald Agouti locus: Dominant yellow/sable/wolf grey/saddle/black and tan/rare recessive black. Your dog is black and tan (either b&t/b&t, or b&t/black). Dilute locus: Dense/dilute. Your dog is dilute (dilute/dilute since it's recessive). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Your dog has irish type (either irish/irish, irish/patchy, or irish/white).


PastorGanj

https://preview.redd.it/lzdwgpn5d78d1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=023694239325488253280a02d757b63151b1d2be He’s pure blue, no white markings, how rare is this?


doo_doo-fard

I wouldn't consider it rare from a genetic point of view. The two mutated alleles he has are the black locus (responsible for created solid black dogs, it is dominant) and dilute locus (responsible for turning black to blue and brown to silver/lilac). Obviously the dog is either missing or only carrying the piebald gene. However. As a bird breeder, I'll say it's an impressive feat in breeding if it was intentional. To breed out any excess white can be annoyingly tricky. So he's impressive, but not exactly rare.


PastorGanj

Appreciate the info! Nice to get an insight on the what’s and whys , appreciate it


SorryDuplex

https://preview.redd.it/e9rqfdgnnx6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fa1dd2d6c12118d4a08bc80c38dee2fe1fb98bf This is Fergus at about 7 months. I don’t have many recent pictures of him where’s he’s sitting up like that lol


doo_doo-fard

He looks so goofy haha tl;dr: Dominant red + brown(?) + irish blaze type piebald Sorry in advance if I get it wrong, but I believe his nose and darker fur are brown? If so he's got the recessive brown mutation! As for the pattern determined by the agouti locus, he's dominant red. Basically mostly red but a few black-type hairs scattered about. The cute chest pattern is caused by the most dominant piebalding type: irish blaze piebald.


SorryDuplex

He’s super goofy lol. He does have a bunch of black hairs scattered around. His tail is mostly black too! Thanks! ☺️


Ilovebabyyy

https://preview.redd.it/z43b2j84ox6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47d6de200cb7e2c75af9ae02d2a652697b9a25de Baby


TheShamefulSquid

https://preview.redd.it/300b46p00y6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7185eedf583773c6841e9f628557d6bfac272c2e He looks like a Holstein cow


doo_doo-fard

Interestingly, mammal colour genetics are all very similar to a degree. The same gene that makes spotty dogs makes spotty cows! Just like the agouti colour in wolves and dogs, it is the same in mice, rats, cats, rabbits, and agoutis to name a few! Tl;dr: Dominant black + patchy type piebald Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. Your dog is solid black (either black/black, or black/any other allele since it is dominant). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Your dog has patchy type (either patchy/patchy, or patchy/white).


TheShamefulSquid

Thank you!!


Federal_Detective213

https://preview.redd.it/ddutmiuaty6d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9dff0aa1c60b37ff07fe58aa86ad5b36764d811


doo_doo-fard

Tl;dr: Dominant black + dilute + irish blaze type piebald Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. Your dog is solid black (either black/black, or black/any other allele since it is dominant). Dilute locus: Dense/dilute. Your dog is dilute (dilute/dilute since it is recessive). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Your dog has irish blaze type (either irish/irish, irish/patchy, or irish/white).


ShennaQuinn

https://preview.redd.it/j48enbqn0z6d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2247bd8d686c6efd5a1664c0593b59789a7d8606


ShennaQuinn

https://preview.redd.it/fs803i0p0z6d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=787b21cab8ae1c349fdbcb20a40f7ca230ea2b95


Ok-Government-7987

https://preview.redd.it/ihbbu63c5z6d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05c62463370c8f5a72a281c658f278938e95b27e Suggs. He’s 44% bully and the rest is a mix of a half dozen other breeds.


doo_doo-fard

Flippy floppy ears! Tl;dr: dominant black + irish blaze type piebald Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. Your dog is solid black (black/black, or black/any other allele since it is dominant). Your dog looks seal to me, could be the lighting. The genetics of seal dogs have not yet been discovered! However, a majority of seals tested black/neither, even though most black/neither dogs are just solid black! Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Your dog has irish blazing (either irish/irish, irish/patchy, or irish/white).


3pcandsoda

https://preview.redd.it/6wy7tpnw7z6d1.jpeg?width=2207&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d83ea36ab21f70d5455952eaaa87a8c6248ecef0 My boy Yanfry 🍫


doo_doo-fard

He's so wide 😂 Tl;dr: black and tan + chocolate + irish blaze type piebald Agouti locus: Dominant yellow/sable/wolf grey/saddle/black and tan/rare recessive black. Your dog is black and tan (either b&t/b&t, or b&t/black). Brown locus: Black/brown. Your dog is brown (brown/brown since it is recessive). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Your dog has irish blaze type (either irish/irish, irish/patchy, or irish/white). Red intensity: Red intensity is a spectrum, unlike black intensity, and it can range from the white found in west highland 'white' (they're red) terriers to the deep red found in irish red setters. This is since it's polygenic, many more than just one gene control the intensity. And even though we see yellow and red dogs every day, *your* dog's red intensity is closer to the unmutated wildtype. Wolves have cream to white type red intensity.


DNVR_PYRO

https://preview.redd.it/gmumllaxdz6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32bc7be7ad52db5f0764e6910ab2e00f8d8f9ded Here’s my big girl 💜🩷


DNVR_PYRO

https://preview.redd.it/bxpm5hd5ez6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=976d9dba737111a0564189924ebceaa4b9fb5927


DNVR_PYRO

https://preview.redd.it/o0889b6hez6d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ba2fad4d1b6f7a36ab8d9e4deadcad69564284f


doo_doo-fard

The other pictures make me think blue dominant red but this one makes me think pure blue! I'll go with both so u can decide haha. Blue dominant red Tl;dr: dominant red + dilute Agouti locus: Dominant yellow/sable/wolf grey/saddle/black and tan/rare recessive black. Your dog is dominant red (either dominant red/dominant red, or dominant red/any other allele since it is dominant). Dilute locus: Dense/dilute. Your dog is dilute (dilute/dilute since it is recessive). ..... Blue Tl;dr: Dominant black + dilute Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. Your dog is solid black (either black/black, or black/any other allele since it is dominant). Dilute locus: Dense/dilute. Your dog is dilute (dilute/dilute since it is recessive).


Suspicious-Clue-668

https://preview.redd.it/hr2jc0kjrz6d1.jpeg?width=1126&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=922ef696707189e11f89213ae138a89a2e213807 Before anyone jumps in nothing is wrong with his eye he just has a 1000 facial expressions and this is one when he thinks he may not get his treat lol.


MatthewDM111

https://preview.redd.it/bqo5vyjcwz6d1.jpeg?width=823&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c17af4fca86510013b40572a30ed360d766838e


Martins072

https://preview.redd.it/izjaqh50107d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c227b29bc88d3fec50e813302855722b53ddf736 Smoky and Lucy


doo_doo-fard

Tl;dr: Dominant black + single factor merle + irish blaze type piebald (left) & brindle + dominant red + dilute Black locus: Solid black/brindle/neither. The left dog is solid black (either black/black, or black/any other allele since it is dominant). The right dog is brindle (either brindle/brindle, or brindle/neither). Agouti locus: Dominant yellow/sable/wolf grey/saddle/black and tan/rare recessive black. The right dog is dominant red (either dominant red/dominant red, or dominant red/any other allele since it is dominant). Merle locus: Dilute patches/dense. The left dog has one dilute patch allele and one dense allele (dilute/dense aka merle). Dilute locus: Dense/dilute. The right dog is dilute (dilute/dilute since it is recessive). Piebalding locus: None/irish/patchy/white. Both dogs have irish blaze type (either irish/irish, irish/patchy, or irish/white).


pitbull17

https://preview.redd.it/u0jnsbk1107d1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7424f66969fcac49e441848b83e24dd004647013


vapin-gator

My boy Jax


BellainVerona

https://preview.redd.it/9zuk0rsrm07d1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dc352455a5b255f22da16622b338441cab0cf49 From left to right: Kore (American Bully/beached whale) , Leela (Gremlin), Bella (Staffordshire Bull Terrier/Chihuahua/ Platypus). They are a riot.


gmukicks

https://preview.redd.it/xbqvq5w2y07d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bc4e173b67cf8a56383e93ee41336d3c8757e92


rjtbbc2023

https://preview.redd.it/r53v2aap417d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=944591af25276b2729dfccdb9698cafbc15f3fb0 champ


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https://preview.redd.it/5t89sqwc817d1.png?width=928&format=png&auto=webp&s=996e5288a71a4c56f46692262177d7fe8c7262b7 American bulldog. Ripper


ghostlyraptor75

https://preview.redd.it/8406199kf17d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7eb96da6c43317ba5ad3c5b212881f2a18b846ee


VinniePosh

https://preview.redd.it/xu03yr7mf17d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea9af83b53987e2e2c5c317a9a3a1adf5b4efdcc Vinnie Velcro


Soundhealingreiki

https://preview.redd.it/2qd3lyrtf17d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e7cd310b08cc14fdf7f65f268b2464efab6aa41 This is Chula


Fine_Vast380

https://preview.redd.it/8a09hdf6827d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b95908fedf2969b1b401a696324d0c9467f8f21 My King-o


OhTheCollywobbles

https://preview.redd.it/cfu6havka27d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4c2d84e89c3fc11a07b362d78d9fcd812ac5c22 Gruntilda :)


The_Bardiest_Bard

https://preview.redd.it/cu9jywt9j37d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0eefc4faca007bd76ad554ac02ff39df2898dc0b Siggy 💜


Ok-Neighborhood-9975

https://preview.redd.it/nrxvh4kgm87d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=910402f6868e331e445f7b0835ff441e06356343 My Pablo ❤️