I have best results using the Finish pods that they recommend (it helps that they're also usually the cheapest) as well as rinse aid. Additionally, I pick the "extra dry" option almost every wash. "Sanitize" which you probably want to use anyway with baby bottles will heat up the water more which should help the drying cycle.
Is it completely wet, or just where you have bottles with concave bottoms collecting water while upside down? I have found that it helps to be careful so that dishes can't collect any water, or as little as possible.
Completely wet! Even on the inside of the front door, and even if I run them overnight and don’t touch it until the following afternoon. I’ll have to try the Finish pods, thank you!
I had a Bosch 300. Washed great. Dishes came out bone-dry. I’d generally run it overnight. If I ran it during the day, I’d crack the door open at the end of the cycle for 10 minutes.
Hi- which is the best dishwasher/dishwashers if you hate having water on your dishes (one with a drying element?? - are these still made?) Thank you for any advice you can give me
This. When I hear the beep, I open the door and turn off the power (just going through my routine; power button has nothing to do with drying.). If we turn the dishwasher on overnight, well, I have wet dishes in the morning. Also, jet dry is just another chemical that you don’t need. We have sparkly dishes without the extra fuss of having more chemicals to deal with.
I’m sorry, but buying a machine that requires you to be home/awake to take the extra step of opening the door just for an essential function of the machine to occur is not something I can ever recommend
With Memorial Day sales you can get a couple good models under/around $1k. KitchenAid KDTM604KPS would be my go to right now. Can find the Bosch 800 series SHP78CM5N not too much over $1k right now on sale as well
No dishwasher needs a drying element. Make sure your water temp is high enough, and run the water in your sink till it is hot, before turning on the dishwasher. Cups with concave bottoms may have some water left in the depressions, this is totally normal, and does not constitute a problem, nor does it qualify for saying your dishes aren’t dry.
There is zero need to run the hot water tap prior to starting the dishwasher. The dmfirst to cycles are ambient temperature just sloshing the water around. I have my bosch dw hooked up to cold water. When it needs the heated water, the heater kicks in and does its job. It takes whatever the incoming water temp is and heats the water 2 degrees per minute. Allowing time and temperature to rule. To do the cleaning process. I have owned 54 bosch dishwashers since 1999, all hooked up to cold water they always dry and always clean. Let the DW do its thing. Do not run the tap prior to starting the dw. They all are very cheap to operate because time in the box is longer doesn't mean it costs more. I have been doing this task as a Bosch factory service technician for over 25 yrs.
All dw are computer driven they Sense and move on to the next cycle. If you have filthy dishes in the hot box, let the dw do its Taskings by using cold water or not running the tap prior to running the dw. It will not save on wear and tare. If you consistently use the same hot water, it can cause wash ability problems. The water senced it, which reached the temp for that cycle, and it moves on to the next cycle. No mechanical timers are used anymore it is all computer driven. Who cares? IF it takes 3 hrs to run a cycle. It is not like it is costing you $300 to operate the machine.
As a manufacturer representative, they would have a tough sell if they said hook it up to cold water and let us know your results. I have been doing this religiously for 25 years, no wear and tare on the heater or anything else. I use .53 cent of electricity every time I use the hot box, the dishes are clean and dry each and every time. I did this in a test lab, and the machine hooked up to hot water didn't clean up as well as cold water did. Hot water moved it along a bit quicker vs cold water the hot box is stainless and it retains the heat from the last cycle it only uses 1.4 gallons per cycle. I have tested kitchenaid , whirlpool Asko miele and fisher Pickel I did the same thing. The fisher Pickel actually did better with cold and it is a pos plastic box vs stainless. You can test it out yourself see what results you come up with
I am a bosch factory service technician are you filling the dispenser correctly? Lift the lid pour the jet dry over the small dial then closing then lid for the jet dry? The other question is how hard is your water. If you have hard water this will occur.
if you dont mind me asking 😅 which should I go with the 500 or 800? im seriously having a hard time deciding (mainly due to seeing so many complaints about leaks due to the zeolite sys or something about plastic canister melting where the hose connects idk) is there much difference between the 500 and 800 aside from drying and the added power control? Bc i can live with those differences but wasnt sure if there were anymore I wasn't aware of. I'm also not big on having to use the app and tbh id rather not connect it to Wi-Fi at all since my speeds suck as is so don't want to sacrifice anymore bandwidth on another smarthome device lol. Is there any model in particular you'd recommend? Oh and I noticed the installation instr. say if installed in a corner it needs 6in clearance between dw and cabinets, this seems rather excessive to there's only like 3-4in between the cabinet and the edge of the door to my last two dw and ive yet to come anywhere close to having it catch so was jw if there was a specific reason for this or if its just Bosch being overly cautious. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
A 300 series is fine. The higher the series, the more electronics that can go wrong. I have had a benchmark, and I had the cheapest low-end dw. It is all bells and whistles. The biggest issue to deal with is the hardness of your water. If you have hard water, get the benchmark with the softener built in. Hard water reeks havoc on the drying process and washablility. A softener will definitely make a difference in washing and drying the dishes.
Thankfully hard water isn't an issue for us here. Im leaning towards the 500 I think in hopes it'll be somewhat of a happy median😅 Do they really need a full 6in though if in a corner bc that would be an issue 🥴🤦
Look in the manual and turn on the intense dry. Also, they use the heat pump, walls and door to condensate the water to assist in drying. Make sure your water is hot enough coming in or it's not going to heat the water enough to dry.
Do you unload right away or wait several hours? After wash and such drying is heating the air. In that hot air the water on the dishes starts to dry. At the same time the walls of the dishwasher also heat up. This radiant heat helps keep the air dry even when the dishwasher stops heating. However it is a sealed unit in order to keep the water inside the dishwasher. Eventually that air cool and some of the water vapor will condense and leave the dishes a bit wet. Now it should never be drenched but some slight wetness may be seen if you don’t unload after many hours.
We have a Bosch 500 my mom uses as a fancy dish rack. As long as you use rinse aid and don’t have Asian-style bowls, anything metal or ceramic will be acceptably dry. Expect wet plastics in any case.
Bosch uses a European style drying system that uses the heat from the wash to dry the dishes which is more energy efficient. American style dishwashers use a heater after the wash to dry the dishes, which you can turn off for better efficiency. When shopping for a new dishwasher ask which drying system is used. Other Euro style dishwashers will have the same issues drying. It is more pronounced on plastics which don't dry as well as glass plates, etc. The higher end Bosch dishwashers have a better drying system.
You can adjust the amount of rinse aid, maybe you need to turn it up a bit? Mine definitely leaves things a bit wet but we're in the habit of leaving it open to dry for a bit after it's done.
The 300 will not dry plastics too well. But in my experience using Finish pods and their rinse aid it is a fine DW. Use it on auto and once it is done just open the door a bit, I prop mine open a few inches using a container's top/cap to keep it from closing. This helps the steam release faster and things dry better overall. I always rinse the baby stuff in the sink and put it to dry again because I am paranoid about any soap residue on the baby stuff. Hope this works for you.
I purchased the Bosch 800 beginning of May. The only times I have had water is on items with a small or shallow dip in it and it pools there. I also normally run it at night, as the cycle takes about 2 1/2 hours, and everything is dry. So far, very happy with the Bosch.
I thought this was normal? Never have I had a dish washer that dried the dishes, besides my parents, but I’m assuming they had a really nice one with that capability. I always crack the door and let them air dry for an hour.
I have a top of the line Thermodor dishwasher, 11 years old. Plastic is very difficult to completely dry. Glass and ceramic are excellent conductors of heat. Higher temperatures of the ware will make the water evaporate easier off the ware. Buy a non contact thermometer. Our machine does not sanitize but the ware is almost 170 degrees.
Check your temperatures.
I totally get your frustration. I had the same issue with my Bosch dishwasher. This video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU-LA8nqmSk&t=8s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU-LA8nqmSk&t=8s) really helped me figure out how to get my dishes to dry properly. Maybe it'll have the tips you need!
condensing dishwashers are like that.
increase the rinse aid amount,
see page 14
make sure intensive drying is on
page 21
https://media3.bosch-home.com/Documents/9001645381_B.pdf
just start the dishes before going to bed, they'll be dry in the morning
scrub your filter every few runs
Thank you! We run it overnight and it’s still wet by the next afternoon, it’s so frustrating. I’ll try more rinse aid too, we use the “extra dry” option and sanitize too
try starting it after dinner, then manually opening it a crack leaving it open all night. the higher series models have a feature that do that automatically
2 questions: What state do you reside and how hard is your water? If you live in an area with extremely hard water, this will occur. As a Bosch factory service technician, I have never had a dw not dry properly unless it is loaded incorrectly, coving the condensation vent or zero rince-aid. I am wondering if it was installed properly. I know without a shadow of a doubt, i could fix it..
I have best results using the Finish pods that they recommend (it helps that they're also usually the cheapest) as well as rinse aid. Additionally, I pick the "extra dry" option almost every wash. "Sanitize" which you probably want to use anyway with baby bottles will heat up the water more which should help the drying cycle. Is it completely wet, or just where you have bottles with concave bottoms collecting water while upside down? I have found that it helps to be careful so that dishes can't collect any water, or as little as possible.
Completely wet! Even on the inside of the front door, and even if I run them overnight and don’t touch it until the following afternoon. I’ll have to try the Finish pods, thank you!
The inside of the door is supposed to be wet, same as the tub. That’s how it dries the dishes.
You have to open the door when the cycle ends. If it cools off with the dishes still inside they'll always be wet.
I had a Bosch 300. Washed great. Dishes came out bone-dry. I’d generally run it overnight. If I ran it during the day, I’d crack the door open at the end of the cycle for 10 minutes.
My 500 pops the door open and lets them dry. I run it overnight down it’s not a problem.
You need a Bosch 800 or Benchmark series with Crystal Dry. Bosch simply isn’t worth buying below the 800 series. Source: I sell people appliances
I have a 300 and this is not my experience. Very happy with it.
Hi- which is the best dishwasher/dishwashers if you hate having water on your dishes (one with a drying element?? - are these still made?) Thank you for any advice you can give me
Wish they would have told me that in the store!
It's just not true. You just need to open the door right after it is done (while they are still hot). The dishes will dry in a few minutes.
This. When I hear the beep, I open the door and turn off the power (just going through my routine; power button has nothing to do with drying.). If we turn the dishwasher on overnight, well, I have wet dishes in the morning. Also, jet dry is just another chemical that you don’t need. We have sparkly dishes without the extra fuss of having more chemicals to deal with.
I’m sorry, but buying a machine that requires you to be home/awake to take the extra step of opening the door just for an essential function of the machine to occur is not something I can ever recommend
It is if you don't want to spend $1000 and it's still the best dishwasher I've ever owned. It's really not that hard to follow the instructions.
What’s a good dishwasher under $1k?
With Memorial Day sales you can get a couple good models under/around $1k. KitchenAid KDTM604KPS would be my go to right now. Can find the Bosch 800 series SHP78CM5N not too much over $1k right now on sale as well
I have that model of kitchen aid and love it
Give me a break dude
Most bosch dishwashers don't dry the dishes. The models that are $1300 plus have drying capability, but most models do not dry the dishes
So silly!
No dishwasher needs a drying element. Make sure your water temp is high enough, and run the water in your sink till it is hot, before turning on the dishwasher. Cups with concave bottoms may have some water left in the depressions, this is totally normal, and does not constitute a problem, nor does it qualify for saying your dishes aren’t dry.
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There is zero need to run the hot water tap prior to starting the dishwasher. The dmfirst to cycles are ambient temperature just sloshing the water around. I have my bosch dw hooked up to cold water. When it needs the heated water, the heater kicks in and does its job. It takes whatever the incoming water temp is and heats the water 2 degrees per minute. Allowing time and temperature to rule. To do the cleaning process. I have owned 54 bosch dishwashers since 1999, all hooked up to cold water they always dry and always clean. Let the DW do its thing. Do not run the tap prior to starting the dw. They all are very cheap to operate because time in the box is longer doesn't mean it costs more. I have been doing this task as a Bosch factory service technician for over 25 yrs.
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All dw are computer driven they Sense and move on to the next cycle. If you have filthy dishes in the hot box, let the dw do its Taskings by using cold water or not running the tap prior to running the dw. It will not save on wear and tare. If you consistently use the same hot water, it can cause wash ability problems. The water senced it, which reached the temp for that cycle, and it moves on to the next cycle. No mechanical timers are used anymore it is all computer driven. Who cares? IF it takes 3 hrs to run a cycle. It is not like it is costing you $300 to operate the machine.
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As a manufacturer representative, they would have a tough sell if they said hook it up to cold water and let us know your results. I have been doing this religiously for 25 years, no wear and tare on the heater or anything else. I use .53 cent of electricity every time I use the hot box, the dishes are clean and dry each and every time. I did this in a test lab, and the machine hooked up to hot water didn't clean up as well as cold water did. Hot water moved it along a bit quicker vs cold water the hot box is stainless and it retains the heat from the last cycle it only uses 1.4 gallons per cycle. I have tested kitchenaid , whirlpool Asko miele and fisher Pickel I did the same thing. The fisher Pickel actually did better with cold and it is a pos plastic box vs stainless. You can test it out yourself see what results you come up with
I am a bosch factory service technician are you filling the dispenser correctly? Lift the lid pour the jet dry over the small dial then closing then lid for the jet dry? The other question is how hard is your water. If you have hard water this will occur.
if you dont mind me asking 😅 which should I go with the 500 or 800? im seriously having a hard time deciding (mainly due to seeing so many complaints about leaks due to the zeolite sys or something about plastic canister melting where the hose connects idk) is there much difference between the 500 and 800 aside from drying and the added power control? Bc i can live with those differences but wasnt sure if there were anymore I wasn't aware of. I'm also not big on having to use the app and tbh id rather not connect it to Wi-Fi at all since my speeds suck as is so don't want to sacrifice anymore bandwidth on another smarthome device lol. Is there any model in particular you'd recommend? Oh and I noticed the installation instr. say if installed in a corner it needs 6in clearance between dw and cabinets, this seems rather excessive to there's only like 3-4in between the cabinet and the edge of the door to my last two dw and ive yet to come anywhere close to having it catch so was jw if there was a specific reason for this or if its just Bosch being overly cautious. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
A 300 series is fine. The higher the series, the more electronics that can go wrong. I have had a benchmark, and I had the cheapest low-end dw. It is all bells and whistles. The biggest issue to deal with is the hardness of your water. If you have hard water, get the benchmark with the softener built in. Hard water reeks havoc on the drying process and washablility. A softener will definitely make a difference in washing and drying the dishes.
Thankfully hard water isn't an issue for us here. Im leaning towards the 500 I think in hopes it'll be somewhat of a happy median😅 Do they really need a full 6in though if in a corner bc that would be an issue 🥴🤦
No not needed
Look in the manual and turn on the intense dry. Also, they use the heat pump, walls and door to condensate the water to assist in drying. Make sure your water is hot enough coming in or it's not going to heat the water enough to dry.
Do you unload right away or wait several hours? After wash and such drying is heating the air. In that hot air the water on the dishes starts to dry. At the same time the walls of the dishwasher also heat up. This radiant heat helps keep the air dry even when the dishwasher stops heating. However it is a sealed unit in order to keep the water inside the dishwasher. Eventually that air cool and some of the water vapor will condense and leave the dishes a bit wet. Now it should never be drenched but some slight wetness may be seen if you don’t unload after many hours.
That’s weird. We have a 300 series (different model number). Bought it in January. My husband was able to use the app to select a heated dry.
We use the settings: Sanitary & Crystal Dry and everything comes out fine.
We have a Bosch 500 my mom uses as a fancy dish rack. As long as you use rinse aid and don’t have Asian-style bowls, anything metal or ceramic will be acceptably dry. Expect wet plastics in any case.
Bosch uses a European style drying system that uses the heat from the wash to dry the dishes which is more energy efficient. American style dishwashers use a heater after the wash to dry the dishes, which you can turn off for better efficiency. When shopping for a new dishwasher ask which drying system is used. Other Euro style dishwashers will have the same issues drying. It is more pronounced on plastics which don't dry as well as glass plates, etc. The higher end Bosch dishwashers have a better drying system.
I have an ancient 100. With rinse aid and the sanitize button they’re dry. There is something the matter with yours. The store is shitting you.
You can adjust the amount of rinse aid, maybe you need to turn it up a bit? Mine definitely leaves things a bit wet but we're in the habit of leaving it open to dry for a bit after it's done.
The 300 will not dry plastics too well. But in my experience using Finish pods and their rinse aid it is a fine DW. Use it on auto and once it is done just open the door a bit, I prop mine open a few inches using a container's top/cap to keep it from closing. This helps the steam release faster and things dry better overall. I always rinse the baby stuff in the sink and put it to dry again because I am paranoid about any soap residue on the baby stuff. Hope this works for you.
Feel your pain. I'm disappointed in ours also.
I purchased the Bosch 800 beginning of May. The only times I have had water is on items with a small or shallow dip in it and it pools there. I also normally run it at night, as the cycle takes about 2 1/2 hours, and everything is dry. So far, very happy with the Bosch.
I thought this was normal? Never have I had a dish washer that dried the dishes, besides my parents, but I’m assuming they had a really nice one with that capability. I always crack the door and let them air dry for an hour.
I have a top of the line Thermodor dishwasher, 11 years old. Plastic is very difficult to completely dry. Glass and ceramic are excellent conductors of heat. Higher temperatures of the ware will make the water evaporate easier off the ware. Buy a non contact thermometer. Our machine does not sanitize but the ware is almost 170 degrees. Check your temperatures.
I totally get your frustration. I had the same issue with my Bosch dishwasher. This video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU-LA8nqmSk&t=8s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU-LA8nqmSk&t=8s) really helped me figure out how to get my dishes to dry properly. Maybe it'll have the tips you need!
condensing dishwashers are like that. increase the rinse aid amount, see page 14 make sure intensive drying is on page 21 https://media3.bosch-home.com/Documents/9001645381_B.pdf just start the dishes before going to bed, they'll be dry in the morning scrub your filter every few runs
Thank you! We run it overnight and it’s still wet by the next afternoon, it’s so frustrating. I’ll try more rinse aid too, we use the “extra dry” option and sanitize too
try starting it after dinner, then manually opening it a crack leaving it open all night. the higher series models have a feature that do that automatically
2 questions: What state do you reside and how hard is your water? If you live in an area with extremely hard water, this will occur. As a Bosch factory service technician, I have never had a dw not dry properly unless it is loaded incorrectly, coving the condensation vent or zero rince-aid. I am wondering if it was installed properly. I know without a shadow of a doubt, i could fix it..
Nice sharing this
Bosch dishwashers do not have heating elements. Like others have said, increase rinse aid a little, but there’s not much you can do.
Bosch is living on a reputation for quality appliances that it has not made in a long time. Expensive garbage now.
This. My husband worked for them many years ago but the quality has apparently gone way way down. Wish I could get a refund, what a joke.
You either have a bad unit, bad installation or user error it seems.