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With my Pluto in the 1st house (sag rising), people have always kind of put me on a pedestal, which of course brings the projection of their insecurities onto me and therefore, jealousy (usually of things I can’t rly control like my looks and luck). People often try to get me to make decisions for them presumably bc they value my insights? Which I absolutely hate bc I try not to get too involved in other ppl’s lives and decisions bc then that puts some sort of unwarranted expectation & pressure onto me. I’ve also noticed throughout my lifetime that my friends get strangely attached/obsessive towards me, including their parents. To the point where their mom will start including me in their daughter’s future and begin to hypothetically plan me into their wedding/adulthood in general. I try to take these things with a grain of salt knowing that there’s a fair chance we won’t be friends in the future and more often then not, that’s the case. I feel like I’m typically in someone’s life to help “transform” them (as gross as that sounds) until we eventually grow apart and they go off to live their own life. It’s kinda lonely but
I find that women end up envying me for how men perceive me and cling to me, but men end up resenting me for being my own person (so strange). It was tough at first especially when I was younger, I was so confused and just wanted to protect my peace . But it did kind of mess up my relationships with men as they wouldn't see me as a person and only idolise me. It gets better, although it's impressive how delusional people can be, you meet a lot of them so you should ignore them <3
- Leo Sun, Taurus Moon, Scorpio Rising
As a scorpio moon/rising who grew up extremely introverted and insecure, finding out how strongly others felt about me was extremely bizarre. I barely spoke to people and kept to myself, yet after a while they’d randomly lash out on me and assume I was “looking down on them” and that’s why I wasn’t communicative.
Everyone feels like I owe my time, friendship and energy to them. Therefore, as I grew up and became more confident in myself, I started to give people what they want and found that the blessing of these placements, is that once you do that, people lowkey idolize you.
I need to change my approach though because as soon as I put a single boundary, people automatically resent me right away.
Oh my goddddd, I'm scorpio rising with pluto conjunct my ascendant. AND I have a cancer moon. So I am not detached. Actually I'm super duper attached. Which doesn't bode well when people get triggered and run away. I dated a guy that was not set up for the emotional depth that I was bringing to the relationship... but our cancer moons connected and I imagined some sort of false sense of security in that. It messed me up and I'm still working though that tbh. I'm working on finding freedom through attachment and trusting that the right people can handle the intensity!
I just don't give them any mind. That all sounds like a them problem, not a me problem. I am, though, 100% firm and sure about who I am, the way I move, and what I stand for. I can't let the opinions of others bother me, nor their projections. I just try to approach things with compassion and grace. And to be fair, I don't mind when people feel pressed or don't like me, because most of them don't even like themselves. ＼(^o^)／
Taurus Sun, Virgo Moon. I think it's my mutable dominance that helps me to not really give af about things that create too much static in my life. 🤷🏽♀️
I think, for the sake of my sanity, i’d like to clarify that every single person in the world projects. Anyone sitting on a high horse, talking about being a victim of other people’s projections…is in denial of their own. Scorpio rising tasks us with reclaiming our own inner power.
The complication with being pluto 1H with scorpio rising is that your/our identity or presence or essence might trigger people. Your life and identity and personal origin story is traumatic and you carry that with you. This is why ppl get triggered. In the literal sense, bc your identity (your origin in life) has the essence of pluto…an energy most ppl fear or hide from or avoid... aka project. It is human to project, we arent tasked with never doing it or experiencing but recognizing when we are and remediating when necessary.
Sometimes these interactions are about them, sometimes they are about you. Learn to decipher which is which and let it go, try to learn how to not take it personally (a lifelong lesson). However, I will say…people with oppositions…whether planets opposite pluto or who have pluto in the 7H…are the most in denial of their own projections and thus it becomes really hard to have any kind of dialogue or remediation. Oppositions always manifest as projections so this is one of those observations that just also aligns with how astrology works.
Pluto squaring my Natal Pluto and Sun rn, so I don’t deal w people’s bs anymore. Projections bounce off me and don’t come into my reality. I walk away from anything that smells like not seeing the real me.
Know yourself. Be the dark, be the light, be whoever you are in any given moment so you may be true to you, but also create a shield around yourself similar to the exterior of a diamond, to where any thing will bounce right off of you. Occasionally I’ll simply disprove those people who project falsities or misunderstandings onto me out of spite from time to time, whether they eventually recognize it or not idc, because then I end up improving myself in the process anyway to some degree. Win for me. If you are feeling your energy drained from possible projections that’s when you really want to have the shield of a diamond.
Other peoples projections are of little concern to me except when it comes to my money or opportunities in life.
Ergo, their opinion doesnt matter unless they have power over me. So to protect myself I work hard to make good impressions to my bosses and coworkers. Come on time, dress presentably, i hide my self harm scars. Some bad projections people have on me is because of the way i look.
So yea ill mask myself pretty much, but only if it comes to things like that. I have heavy libra placements so helps me hide.
Another example is i avoid making direct eye contact w men to protect myself. Men always think im making bedroom eyes at them. They see my eye contact as an invitation. They project their lust onto me.
Aside from things like that, i just really dont give a fuck. Other people dont matter.
So this is what it is? I was attacked with a fucking sword for touching someone’s kitchen door beads, got bullied by an ex police officer for not letting a schizophrenic guy accuse me of his delusions, and much more.
I’m a mid Scorpio Rising (that falls in the via combusta if that matters). I have Mars and Venus square my asc and Pluto in H1. Women especially are projecting on me or copying me. Currently my sister is projecting her mental illness on me (just like our mother did to me, then eventually her). I have been no contact with her for a while, yet she has been harassing me with fake text numbers and through social media by stealing my photos, making false allegations and targeting my friends. I blocked her multiple numbers and accounts. When projections happen at work, I bite my tongue for my own sanity.
I should also add that I am very strict with boundaries when it comes to money/job. Nobody fucks with my money or they get cut off permanently. I have a Cap stellium and Pluto sextiles my Cap NN. I also have Cap Moon in wide conjunction to Aquarius Saturn. I’m a Scrooge McBitch as I like to say.
Transiting Pluto is retrograding over and back over my DSC right now so I’m getting lots of projections. Happy days!
But I do have a long-standing experience of being misunderstood and projected onto. With my Sun in the 12th people can’t really see me, a Mars rising in Leo whose tightest aspect is a square to Pluto in Scorpio in the 4th, almost feels like a Scorpio rising to me. It’s hilarious because people see the Mars rising and think I’m a really angry, aggressive and scary person, and if they can’t get past the feeling of being triggered they never get to meet my mushy side - sensitive, nurturing, protective and empathetic Sun, Venus, Mercury in Cancer in 12th side lol
Interesting question, because it's something I think has been ingrained in me from having a mother that projected herself and her insecurities onto me from birth on. It's a matter of "know thyself" and past that, other people's projections just never hit the same anymore.
Once I was able to separate out "me" from "who my mother thinks I am," everything else has been small potatoes. I don't need friends/relationships with people who don't know me and like me for who I am, and I can tell the difference with little to no effort. I have rarely felt the need in life to "correct" people's misperceptions of me. If that situation does arise in a relationship that I value, I correct them. However I have found most people that are inclined to project are not inclined to be corrected. After that point, there is nothing I can do "for them." I choose the company I keep.
What they think about me doesn't matter to me. They can think that, they are free to be wrong, it hurts no one but themselves.
“However I have found most people that are inclined to project are not inclined to be corrected.” Do you mean that, although you don’t feel the need to correct people, that when you HAVE tried to correct projections from people who don’t truly know you, you have found they don’t take the corrections on board?
Yes, I don't think projecting onto others is "normal and healthy" behavior for someone who knows themselves and has the intention of having healthy relationships.
So, in my personal experience, I have tried to "save relationships," especially with family, by attempting to "clear the air" and put everything out on the table with honesty. I have even consented to "even if that is true, how can we move forward from there?" as an approach. I cannot say this has ever "saved a relationship" for me, but I can say that it has relieved me of the burden of keeping relationships that aren't healthy, once I know I have done everything I can to repair them.
In my experience, people are projecting something they *want* to believe about you, so that they can hold onto some other personal belief or resentment, and are not likely to give that up easily by "convincing." Someone has to want to see the truth for themselves, and want to let go of resentments for themselves. Nobody can do that for them, although in immaturity I have tried. It's not a "mistake" I would make in my current place in life.
I once had a supposed friend accuse me of trying to look like someone else because I dyed my hair brown.
Brown is my natural hair color. I dyed my hair to cover up a bad purple dye job. Having a sense of humor helps.
I’ve often had it happen where I dye my hair, then my ‘friends’ (ex friends now) would copy me and color theirs the same color. My irritation comes from my Sun opposite Uranus ; I haaaate being copied. As I’ve gotten older and past my first Saturn return, I’ve learned to not care.
Pluto conjunct Sun + ASC in Sagittarius. People either love me or hate me, there's no in between. Usually people that hate me project their insecurities into me and they tend to think I'm being critical of them when I ain't. Even when I'm at my worst people still find a way to "envy" me. I've been fat and my thin friends envied me. I have not graduated yet but I'm having good opportunities and people who already got a degree envy me. At this point it's just a matter of energy. It's like you can't ignore my presence lol
Sag rising and I relate !!! Like my dad literally died when I was in hs and my college friends lowkey think they have it worse bc their dad’s were shi*ty. Like I get it but… And I’m also the least well-off out of my friends but am still envied for the things I do have… while they pretend to be “poor”. Like no matter what I’m always on a pedestal to them which is frustrating bc none of my hardships are ever taken into account
Being a Scorpio rising and pluto in 1h, I’ve gotten used to people projecting their feelings onto me, and honestly, I just don’t care anymore if they get offended or intimidated by my presence. It doesn’t matter to me. I read a comment a year ago that described this placement as both a curse and a blessing. It’s a blessing because it helps filter the people we meet; the right ones will see through us and won’t project or judge us too quickly.
As an introvert, I value quality over quantity when it comes to the people in my life. Although I do get attention, even when I don't want it, I like the idea of being known by almost everyone (like in school, work, or my community) while not knowing them as well I like that invisible line/distance very few dare to cross to get to know me even if Im open to get to know anyone
As protection and being sure not being rubbed off w bad energies I sage myself or wear crystals/evil eye
lol the comment about liking the attention from afar is my entire life as a 1st house pluto. It’s like I crave it because I enjoy knowing ppl have that pull to me but at the same time I want them to be scared enough to not try to get to know me lol.
I used to hate it and feel like a victim in my relationships, but I realized that it’s a unique gift. The people who stay and can handle the reactive feelings they have are valuable friends to me. It also helped me remain detached and allow relationships to ebb and flow. I have this feeling that people stay only as long as needed for both their and my growth and I accept the coming and going easily now.
This is so trippy for me to read this right now, for reasons too long to explain but it’s a nice synchronicity for me right now. 3 little words but profound on so many levels. Hold your Center.
Ok so I’m late degree Libra rising with Pluto in Scorpio in 1st house and everyone projects on me to my whole life I’ve had to learn that I’m not problem they are (its my birthday today lol)
I have libra risning 1 house pluto in scorpio placement as well, insecure people have always found me and tried to pick a fight that usually escalated due to my agreeable libra like personality but never ended well, due to plutos powerful effect. I just had to be in the same room and breathe…now i dont take it so personally, still people can get disturbed by my presence only. Probably they sense that i can read them too well, and i am still looking too young due to my gemini venus that everyone who is frustrated thinks im an easy target.
Hbd btw!
Still figuring out how to handle it. It took me a good while to realize that no matter what I do, some people are just going to project and fucking hate me and there's nothing I can really do about it.
I think the instance that was the weirdest and hurt the most, though, was an old best friend. Met in 5th grade, friends all the way up through graduating high school. Got her birthday presents every year bc I bugged my parents about it. I brought a second packed lunch to school for a good while explicitly for her bc her mom wouldn't give her lunch money, nor would she send her with food. Finances were tough at home, but I was so upset about it and my mom knew we were good friends so she made shit stretch to help her out.
At some point we just seemed to drift apart which sucked but hey shit happens. It wasn't until later that I found out that this girl, for some unknown reason, absolutely hated my fucking guts. I had a mutual friend/my gf at the time tell me that she told her to stay away from me bc I was a bad person or whatever. Never got an actual reason out of either of them for that one. The bad part is this friend was the one who would tell me stories about her doing insane shit like literally keeping a diary log of stalking this girl across the street when she was in like 3rd grade, give or take a year. I had assumed she'd grown out of shit like that, but after us falling out I wonder how much of that concerning behavior and mentality never went away. No idea what was ever going on in her head in retrospect.
I also had another ex best friend who I fell out with. Her cited reason was feeling like I wanted her to just watch my life like a side character. I was the one reaching out trying to arrange visits. I was the one talking about missing her and wanting to see her. SHE was the one who would only call me to talk about the drama in her life, claim she missed me, and never actually follow through on plans. That one was just blatant projecting imo. She used to come over to my house several times a week after school, spent the night all the time, the works. Met her in 6th grade, graduated with her, too.
I adored both of these girls so much. Loved them like sisters. I've fallen out with a lot of people for silly reasons, but these were the ones that actually hurt. Usually it has something to do with romantic relationships or crushes, my falling outs, but these just hit different and felt much more personal. I still think about both of them a lot. They were some of the people who objectively experienced the best versions of me, and still decided they couldn't stand me. That's what hurts. I know I don't bring my best to every relationship or interaction, but I really did try with them. Sometimes that doesn't matter, though!
as a scorpio rising/pluto 1h in sag if others are projecting onto me i best try to take what they say with a grain of salt. in the past id take projection to heart but im slowly trying to unlearn that but i notice i project on people a lot.
Pluto conjunct ascendant in sagittarius here. I got hit with projections and angry stares from others since i was a kid and it´s still present today. You just can´t escape this. It´s crazy how pluto makes people uncomfortable.
Scorpio asceendent conjunct Pluto in the 12. I'm learning to notice them in real time, call them out for what they are and I think that rebukes the energy. Other times, I've just walked away, especially if it's not people close to me. Once, I threatened someone, they were om strik 3 though. Also open to suggestions
Scorpio rising, honestly I can care less what others think about me. As if, I’ve not already pointed out my insecurities and mistakes to myself bringing in that awareness before someone else attempts to point it out. Even when someone points it out, I laugh or help them finish their sentences.
I eventually see right through them and figure it’s my turn to peck at them. Usually, they wouldn’t tolerate at least a minute because I’ll nail their insecurities quickly with an accuracy. Afterwards, I’m referred to as the bad guy. Which is why I rarely have any friends, they can’t handle the truth.
Also that comment about haters being obsessed with you, as a Scorpio rising. I agree! I used to have a teacher back in HS hate me so much but yet so invested in me that he knew my entire class schedule and kept an eye on me. He had teachers watching me from far distances.
I’m typically labeled as mysterious. I’m used to it.
I lived with a scorpio rising and tbh it was reversed. Kept lashing out at me and when we sat down to discuss an issue, she would connect the event to all these past stories from her life. That's when I realized she didn't have a problem with me, it was with herself.
i think it can definitely be reversed, energy isn't always inward but can be outward too if not assessed properly. i have met scorpio placements that can end up projecting upon others, although i can still see how it could stem from the experience of constantly being projected on
Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon, and Taurus Rising. I’m highly sensitive and an empath. It used to hurt my feelings when people would project, but now I use their projections against them. When people point out things about you that aren’t true, it reveals what they believe about themselves.
I’m usually quiet and mind my business, so why are you putting words in my mouth and dictating what my actions mean? Lmao 😂 A lot of Scorpios bother people without even trying. Were that magnetic and attractive. Period.
I have Scorpio moon conjunct rising and Pluto. Moon squared mars. I’ve had lots of bad experiences with people I never wish to repeat, but somehow they follow me and leaves me wondering how I can create stronger boundaries for myself to protect myself. I’m an empathetic and highly sensitive person who feels energies, emotions, intentions and lies of other people. I see through their mask and that’s what makes them uncomfortable, especially people who aren’t truthful or authentic about who they are. I’ve been told I’m hard to read and I think that’s why people tend to tease me without being warranted to. People always project their negativity and assumptions about me or my intentions onto me and they’re often highly mistaken, I’m misunderstood quite a lot and I’m beginning to learn to accept the fact that most people will never understand or know me. That’s fine because I always am actively working to understand myself deeper.
I wish I knew how to deal better with people’s projections because I am not sure I am dealing with them quite well all the time. Most of the time I understand why people make certain comments or get triggered by something; it’s more about them and their insecurities than me. However I learned it’s necessary to take it at face value and not overly feel for them - so if somebody makes me feel uncomfortable I just avoid them now, trust my instincts more on that. I don’t need to please anyone who’s trying to make me feel bad about myself unconsciously or consciously. But I do actually take things very deeply and personally that it can let a ton of anger and resentment fester when I feel continually misunderstood and attacked by someone, or if I feel like their intentions are bad.
I feel this too, the anger and resentment, but when I take care of my mental and physical health (including exercise for my Mars energy) I feel embodied, holding my centre, and not so caught up in what other people think of me. People are going to think whatever they want we can’t control that. I think where a lot of my resentment comes from my own mistaken desire to try to get them to see the real me, or to have compassion for me, when I’m reality they aren’t capable of it and don’t really want to. And then I wonder why I’m wasting my time with assholes that I don’t even want in my life, when I have other friends who build me up and I feel comfortable to be myself around.
Yeah I find that it helps to focus on my own inner work/emotions and my happiness. My therapist told me I seemed to take everything at work so personally and to heart, I was like yes I really do. That made me think about how I’m more affected by others than I’d like so it’s def a work in progress.
Lmaoo my Scorpio rising bestie & I always say, “do not perceive me, I do not want to be perceived!!”
(Meanwhile we go back and forth with each other privately bitching about how we look to others)
I don’t care, she still kind of does, but we have each other to spam it out of our system because we understand 😂
This is more of a Neptune/ascendant/1st house thing. I have it conjunct my ascendant and in my first 😵💫. Pluto is in my 10th house, touches my ascendant and my Scorpio midheaven. The water in my chart amplifies the projections I sense and feel. I love all these aspects, buuut they come at a price. In one answer:
I don’t react, and keep doing my own thing. I block, avoid, and protect my energy. Neptune clouds how people see me and they see me how they WANT to see me, not as I am. I think, like Pluto, it acts like a mirror, where insecurities may also be projected onto you. Whether I say something or not, an image of me (that someone else created) always gets pushed onto me, so I’ve kept my distance. That is not my problem, but I will not engage with someone who refuses to try to understand me at a deeper level.
yeah, neptune is my most aspected planet and it aspects a lot of my personal ones. then i have a scorpio rising with pluto in the 2nd. my closest friends are usually people that are able to really see me for who i am and i try my best to stay away from people who aren't able to. i always end up over explaining myself, constantly trying to get them to understand me, etc. eventually i'm just like, alright. it appears as if you're going to believe whatever perception you created in your head, so i'll leave you alone and leave it be. with most people though, no i don't really care how i am perceived for the most part. it's usually people i care about a lot that makes me feel a bit upset
Pluto in 1st House Exactly on my Ascendant. Conjunct 1 degree as well. Also 4 🦂Planets. 2 of them in 1st house . I resonate with a lot of these comments. So I won’t need to say much. I will say this . My Pluto Conjunct is in Libra . So ,the diplomacy that comes with how Libra (stereotype) applies. I learned to master how I reply to people who don’t like or are intimidated by me . It’s a their problem. And use my words to respond. Words are weapons when used wisely. Or I just ignore.
As a Scorpio moon and highly sensitive person, I’ve developed boundaries that look like not making myself available to everyone all the time. Old me bent over backwards for people and got walked on, new me moves intentionally and prioritizes self care and patience (not responding to texts immediately, not jumping to help other people even when they don’t ask(cringe)). I feel more self love and self respect towards my energy and it feels great. I’m prioritizing relationships that bring joy. I’m taking steps back from relationships that cause stress.
As far as projections, my journey with that has shifted over the past three years. Old me got very upset, hard on myself and emotional when this happened. New me sees the world and people as an endless evolution, and sometimes you get caught up in it. The hardest experience I have is being the family scapegoat-cuts deep and to the core. I’ve been processing this for 3 years and finally see a light out of the pain. Much love to everyone, I pray you don’t get tangled up in others mess, and always keep the spotlight on your journey, have compassion and kindness, and love.
I feel that, I’m autistic so boundaries are even more important as I feel people project more onto me due to an inherent inability to read my emotions and intentions. When I was younger I was a lot more giving to an unhealthy extent, but as an adult I prioritize myself and have learned not to care what others think outside of my best friends and husband. If you’re not important to me, and don’t know me intimately, then your opinion of me means nothing.
i have Pluto conjunct my Scorpio Ascendant and people do this to me all the time lolll. I just go home and cry about it usually 😅 I can be confrontational sometimes, but usually it's not worth it
Scorpio rising conjunct pluto. I will be honest, I don’t know what it is specifically that triggers people sometimes. Sometimes I’m aware I’m acting plutonic, but other times when I’m trying to be social and outgoing I get a lot of unnecessary hate and negative energy from others. I spend a lot of time thinking and reflecting on my interactions, but at the end of the day if I have good intentions for others it shouldn’t matter, I can’t control other’s opinions of me. Astrology shows us we’re all incredibly different people and that’s ok.
Came across and resonated with this tumblr post, maybe it will connect with you: https://www.tumblr.com/neptuneslure/751975987200376832/women-with-misogyny-magnet-placements-need-to-hear
I have same aspect and I attract a lot of misogynistic people projecting that onto me. It gets me so angry. I could be doing absolutely nothing and they’ll make comments and remarks at me that cross my boundaries and that is none of their business.
I’m always met with the, “you’re intimidating” and mentioning my eyes. I’ve often heard that people don’t like staring at me because they feel like I’m looking through them. I used to be insecure about that but idc, I just stare lol. I do seem to attract weirdos, people who are obsessive or just come off broken and need guidance. I also have Pluto in my first so I do understand I’m very deep and I need deep relationships so it’s rare to find people I can connect with. I have a small group of people that I trust and am truly myself with and for the most part, I’m okay with it.
Stability and security is super important to me in life and friendships, if that ground is shaken …I’m not okay at all. So, I’ve just learned overtime to be picky and a bit critical in a way. I have also recognized I can “test” people so I work hard at not doing that, I try to let things flow because it works out better that way. What will be, will be.
Scorpio rising conjunct pluto. Also Scorpio sun and venus conjunct pluto. My biggest problem is that people feel like "I understand them more than anyone else" Which I don't necessarily think is true. I'm just a good listener and I am curious about what they're going trough. This tends to put me in difficult situations. As people open up to me, it's like they want more and more of me. Especially when it comes to mental health. I often find myself being other peoples psychologist/therapeut or a caregiver. I don't really mind it - but it's not mutual.
This makes me feel lonely a lot of times. It's like nobody knows anything about me, or am curious about my life and what I'm going trough. Yet they still want to maintain a close friendship with me.
My latest memory was from my friends bachelor party. It's been 1-2 years since I've met some of my old friends there, yet NOBODY asked a single question about me. Since we met I had bought my first house, met a man, gotten engaged. Nobody seemed to care - every conversation we had was about them. Now they're like "hey it was soo nice to meet you, we should travel together this fall". While I feel like our friendship is over. I don't want to deal with them anymore. They don't care. They're not interested.
Perhaps most of these experiences are caused by having sun in 12th house, but I also believe that my Scorpio rising/pluto placement makes people think that I am stronger than what I am. And perhaps my Scorpio/pluto energy no longer want to deal with platonic "friendships" anymore. I want my friendships to be more truthful and rewarding than this.
So I prefer to just be by myself.
Same experience about men by the way. After some months of dating they'd be like "You're a completely different person than who I thought you was". Well.... we always kept talking about you you you. Perhaps you'd know me better if you were more interested in who I actually am.
My fiance is the only one who's actually been interested in getting to know the real me. He's a scorpio asc conjunct pluto as well! I love him so much.
I resonate with this so much!!!! I keep giving too much of myself to people who don’t return the favor and yeah just recently I reconnected with a friend who moved away from home 6yrs ago and just recently moved back. Now I’m reevaluating the whole friendship. She hasn’t asked me any genuine questions about my life or taken any interest in it, while im constantly listening to her talk about hers.
I have a 12th house Sun too and really feel so misunderstood and overlooked. It’s so isolating.
I resonate so much with this, especially lately where strangers just dump so much in casual conversation on me and it's not reciprocated at all. Part of it is my psychology background but the more it happens, the less interest I have in it. I do mind I'm realizing. And so lately I'm making only effort where it's reciprocal. Anything else leaves me burnt out.
Most of the patterns I found in my own life stem from childhood so shadow work is always a big theme. People who knew me for years never really knew me at all, and I know now that part of that was because I didn’t know who I was. Pluto is also going deep to uncover ourselves especially when it’s in the 1st house.
Scorpio rising conjunct pluto. Also Scorpio sun and venus conjunct pluto. My biggest problem is that people feel like "I understand them more than anyone else" Which I don't necessarily think is true. I'm just a good listener and I am curious about what they're going trough. This tends to put me in difficult situations. As people open up to me, it's like they want more and more of me. Especially when it comes to mental health. I often find myself being other peoples psychologist/therapeut or a caregiver. I don't really mind it - but it's not mutual.
This makes me feel lonely a lot of times. It's like nobody knows anything about me, or am curious about my life and what I'm going trough. Yet they still want to maintain a close friendship with me.
My latest memory was from my friends bachelor party. It's been 1-2 years since I've met some of my old friends there, yet NOBODY asked a single question about me. Since we met I had bought my first house, met a man, gotten engaged. Nobody seemed to care - every conversation we had was about them. Now they're like "hey it was soo nice to meet you, we should travel together this fall". While I feel like our friendship is over. I don't want to deal with them anymore. They don't care. They're not interested.
Perhaps most of these experiences are caused by having sun in 12th house, but I also believe that my Scorpio rising/pluto placement makes people think that I am stronger than what I am. And perhaps my Scorpio/pluto energy no longer want to deal with platonic "friendships" anymore. I want my friendships to be more truthful and rewarding than this.
So I prefer to just be by myself.
Same experience about men by the way. After some months of dating they'd be like "You're a completely different person than who I thought you was". Well.... we always kept talking about you you you. Perhaps you'd know me better if you were more interested in who I actually am.
My fiance is the only one who's actually been interested in getting to know the real me. He's a scorpio asc conjunct pluto as well! I love him so much.
Edit: Sorry about the double-post! Got some internet/reddit problems.
Holy bejeezus your reply resonates deeply with me. I’m a Scorpio sun and Scorpio rising. I actually am a mental health therapist as my career too 😂 but, I think I took that path because growing up I was always the listener and the person people go to.
I have a lot of very difficult things happening in my life right now and tell my therapist how alone I feel. That nobody understands what’s going on and I tell people I’m not okay but everyone just keeps saying how strong I am.
I have a genuine curiosity about others lives and do notice that it seems to make others not ask questions about me.
Anyways, thanks for writing this. It made me feel a little less alone today.
At this point I just shrug. Sure, I'm 'scary'. Whatever 🙄
Also most of my friends (and my husband) have Scorpio risings or moons. Not intentional, obviously, but I guess that energy must draw us together.
Projection is a Pisces/Neptune thing, not necessarily Pluto.
With Pisces or Neptune on the ascendant, people will see on you what they want to see. People will look at you and see their idea of you, not who you are in reality. More than that, the Pisces/Neptune person might even struggle to show their authentic self because they grew up too used to having to pretend to be something else in order to fit in.
Scorpio/Pluto is more about feeling like the world is attacking you and therefore you must protect yourself. People born with Scorpio or Pluto on the ascendant, grew up having to fight to be who they are, were constantly attacked for becoming an individual so, if not worked on, they grow up with some sense of paranoia, of: people can’t be trusted, they want to attack and control me, therefore I must fight back and protect myself.
For those with Scorpio or Pluto on the ascendant, I would ask you: to what point are people really against you and to what point it’s just trauma from the past resurfacing in your interaction with others that makes you want to defend yourself?
I think I find it hard to also discern when I am projecting. Scorp placements I feel can be affected by both and so I personally feel it might be useful to sit with yourself and get a sense of what you are doing. If I do feel that the projection is coming from the other end, I limit my time and energy with them.
I have a black moon Lilith in 8th house and Pluto conjunct mars in 12th (also Venus) and it mainly manifests in gas lighting from siblings. My sister wants me to pick up and send her meds to her but my skill set doesn’t include packaging and lying to the post office by writing vitamins on whatever box? I have told her this that it isn’t allowed and the last meds I sent have not arrived and it has been a week, maybe I shouldn’t be doing this and most of all I am talking about a thought gas lighting produced and posting about it here. Also she gave me $100 for expenses for dog food for her Corgi (no fence like she promised to install) but I have exceeded thanks to mailing stuff for her. Gas lighting is like having a kettle start whistling because a sibling put it on the stove and left the house.
Scorpio moon and rising. I stay away from people 😂 seriously though, I'm usually able to see right through their words and immediately recognize the deeper meaning of what they're trying to convey. If someone is, say, jealous of me for x reason I'll point out that they need to heal some sort of insecurity inside themselves and that it's not my problem. I usually piss people off lol
Fellow Scorpio moon and rising here, I couldn’t relate to this more especially as I get older (34 currently) I innately can analyze and see through the illusion of a persons societal mask/behaviors that they project onto others, when it comes to my romantic partners and personal relationships I unintentionally trigger deep insecurities from some sort of repressed trauma that hasn’t been dealt with. It gets exhausting which is why I truly enjoy my solitude lol. Thanks for sharing I’m glad I’m not fully alone in this.
Pluto is retrograde in my chart which I’ve associated with feeling invisible and burdened by projections at the same time. Not sure if that is a valid assessment. I have taken way too long with setting up stricter boundaries which I blame my Virgo rising for which always wants to help :)
I think it depends on a lot more since it’s an outer planet and is Rx for 6 months out of the year on repeat. It doesn’t mean it’s not important just means there’s gotta be more factoring into it
It depends on who but I tell them their insecurities based on whatever they tried to project on me. I don’t take it personally because I know that they probably have some internal issues with themselves and try and project it onto me to make themselves feel like I’m on their level.
Only someone who is insecure will try and project on me, which is really the result of having Leo placements and a Scorpio Moon and Rising and having fixed placements.
Because I’m Martian it’s mainly women who will pull things out of thin air because they feel like I need to be humbled.
I’m a Leo with a Scorpio rising and I feel this so much! As I get older I realise I was lowkey bullied in high school but it just didn’t affect me cause I was headstrong and knew they were just projecting. I also feel like I repel fake people haha.
I'm a Taurus Rising with Scorpio moon and Pluto and I feel this. I've made the mistake for too long of sharing way too much, wanting to connect to others and not understanding why they all act the way they do. Thanks Leo stellium. But I've reached a point now where my business is my business. I've been blackmailed, manipulated, and gossiped about way too much and it's done my mental in. Now I approach it as that's their fucking problem and if it's so much of a problem, we're gonna talk like mature grown adults. None of this high-school emotional drama. And my circle is extremely small now. I have to protect my peace.
Pluto conjunct my ASC and I’m still learning how to deal with people’s projections. I get angry lol and also people talk about me behind my back when I’m doing nothing? You have to be careful with who you trust and share personal details with
As a scorpio rising with 4 positive pluto aspects to my sun/mercury/moon/uranus I deal really well. I had a hard time when I was 30yo starting as an RN and felt EVERYONE (patients primarily but had some rough coworker experiences) clinging onto me. Thankfully I went on maturnity leave and had time to really reflect and think about what I needed to succeed. I developed great boundaries and keep only genuine people as close friends which helps me breath in my space better. I see others well and use that to help them get past themselves. I do this inconspicuously. It's a slow, unsuspecting dance so they come to their own conclusion that i am a fine human. There is always some personal hurdle i help them get past that clears things up. It's different for everyone. I see it as a blessing to help others.
I have a Scorpio midheaven and it’s wild. People are kind of fascinated and want to sleep with you but also want to put you in your place or something. You get haters that are also kind of obsessed.
The objectification is real…every “guy friend” I’ve had tried to sleep with me, and I literally was not attracted to any of them. Just recently I met someone at an event who I thought was being nice and then he asked me to go dancing at a club. In my head I was like dude I don’t do clubs and I need to go home and sleep cause it’s past my bedtime.
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With my Pluto in the 1st house (sag rising), people have always kind of put me on a pedestal, which of course brings the projection of their insecurities onto me and therefore, jealousy (usually of things I can’t rly control like my looks and luck). People often try to get me to make decisions for them presumably bc they value my insights? Which I absolutely hate bc I try not to get too involved in other ppl’s lives and decisions bc then that puts some sort of unwarranted expectation & pressure onto me. I’ve also noticed throughout my lifetime that my friends get strangely attached/obsessive towards me, including their parents. To the point where their mom will start including me in their daughter’s future and begin to hypothetically plan me into their wedding/adulthood in general. I try to take these things with a grain of salt knowing that there’s a fair chance we won’t be friends in the future and more often then not, that’s the case. I feel like I’m typically in someone’s life to help “transform” them (as gross as that sounds) until we eventually grow apart and they go off to live their own life. It’s kinda lonely but
I find that women end up envying me for how men perceive me and cling to me, but men end up resenting me for being my own person (so strange). It was tough at first especially when I was younger, I was so confused and just wanted to protect my peace . But it did kind of mess up my relationships with men as they wouldn't see me as a person and only idolise me. It gets better, although it's impressive how delusional people can be, you meet a lot of them so you should ignore them <3 - Leo Sun, Taurus Moon, Scorpio Rising
As a scorpio moon/rising who grew up extremely introverted and insecure, finding out how strongly others felt about me was extremely bizarre. I barely spoke to people and kept to myself, yet after a while they’d randomly lash out on me and assume I was “looking down on them” and that’s why I wasn’t communicative. Everyone feels like I owe my time, friendship and energy to them. Therefore, as I grew up and became more confident in myself, I started to give people what they want and found that the blessing of these placements, is that once you do that, people lowkey idolize you. I need to change my approach though because as soon as I put a single boundary, people automatically resent me right away.
Oh my goddddd, I'm scorpio rising with pluto conjunct my ascendant. AND I have a cancer moon. So I am not detached. Actually I'm super duper attached. Which doesn't bode well when people get triggered and run away. I dated a guy that was not set up for the emotional depth that I was bringing to the relationship... but our cancer moons connected and I imagined some sort of false sense of security in that. It messed me up and I'm still working though that tbh. I'm working on finding freedom through attachment and trusting that the right people can handle the intensity!
I literally do not care (I’m also a Leo moon tho)
Same(Libra sun, Gemini moon, Scorpio rising)
Same to an extent anyway. Libra moon leo sun tho
I just don't give them any mind. That all sounds like a them problem, not a me problem. I am, though, 100% firm and sure about who I am, the way I move, and what I stand for. I can't let the opinions of others bother me, nor their projections. I just try to approach things with compassion and grace. And to be fair, I don't mind when people feel pressed or don't like me, because most of them don't even like themselves. ＼(^o^)／
Ditto! What's your moon sign? Sun?
Taurus Sun, Virgo Moon. I think it's my mutable dominance that helps me to not really give af about things that create too much static in my life. 🤷🏽♀️
I think, for the sake of my sanity, i’d like to clarify that every single person in the world projects. Anyone sitting on a high horse, talking about being a victim of other people’s projections…is in denial of their own. Scorpio rising tasks us with reclaiming our own inner power. The complication with being pluto 1H with scorpio rising is that your/our identity or presence or essence might trigger people. Your life and identity and personal origin story is traumatic and you carry that with you. This is why ppl get triggered. In the literal sense, bc your identity (your origin in life) has the essence of pluto…an energy most ppl fear or hide from or avoid... aka project. It is human to project, we arent tasked with never doing it or experiencing but recognizing when we are and remediating when necessary. Sometimes these interactions are about them, sometimes they are about you. Learn to decipher which is which and let it go, try to learn how to not take it personally (a lifelong lesson). However, I will say…people with oppositions…whether planets opposite pluto or who have pluto in the 7H…are the most in denial of their own projections and thus it becomes really hard to have any kind of dialogue or remediation. Oppositions always manifest as projections so this is one of those observations that just also aligns with how astrology works.
Pluto squaring my Natal Pluto and Sun rn, so I don’t deal w people’s bs anymore. Projections bounce off me and don’t come into my reality. I walk away from anything that smells like not seeing the real me.
Know yourself. Be the dark, be the light, be whoever you are in any given moment so you may be true to you, but also create a shield around yourself similar to the exterior of a diamond, to where any thing will bounce right off of you. Occasionally I’ll simply disprove those people who project falsities or misunderstandings onto me out of spite from time to time, whether they eventually recognize it or not idc, because then I end up improving myself in the process anyway to some degree. Win for me. If you are feeling your energy drained from possible projections that’s when you really want to have the shield of a diamond.
Other peoples projections are of little concern to me except when it comes to my money or opportunities in life. Ergo, their opinion doesnt matter unless they have power over me. So to protect myself I work hard to make good impressions to my bosses and coworkers. Come on time, dress presentably, i hide my self harm scars. Some bad projections people have on me is because of the way i look. So yea ill mask myself pretty much, but only if it comes to things like that. I have heavy libra placements so helps me hide. Another example is i avoid making direct eye contact w men to protect myself. Men always think im making bedroom eyes at them. They see my eye contact as an invitation. They project their lust onto me. Aside from things like that, i just really dont give a fuck. Other people dont matter.
Pluto conjunct asc. Never been called intimidating and if people thought I was I am probably blithely unaware ;)
So this is what it is? I was attacked with a fucking sword for touching someone’s kitchen door beads, got bullied by an ex police officer for not letting a schizophrenic guy accuse me of his delusions, and much more.
I’m a mid Scorpio Rising (that falls in the via combusta if that matters). I have Mars and Venus square my asc and Pluto in H1. Women especially are projecting on me or copying me. Currently my sister is projecting her mental illness on me (just like our mother did to me, then eventually her). I have been no contact with her for a while, yet she has been harassing me with fake text numbers and through social media by stealing my photos, making false allegations and targeting my friends. I blocked her multiple numbers and accounts. When projections happen at work, I bite my tongue for my own sanity.
I should also add that I am very strict with boundaries when it comes to money/job. Nobody fucks with my money or they get cut off permanently. I have a Cap stellium and Pluto sextiles my Cap NN. I also have Cap Moon in wide conjunction to Aquarius Saturn. I’m a Scrooge McBitch as I like to say.
Transiting Pluto is retrograding over and back over my DSC right now so I’m getting lots of projections. Happy days! But I do have a long-standing experience of being misunderstood and projected onto. With my Sun in the 12th people can’t really see me, a Mars rising in Leo whose tightest aspect is a square to Pluto in Scorpio in the 4th, almost feels like a Scorpio rising to me. It’s hilarious because people see the Mars rising and think I’m a really angry, aggressive and scary person, and if they can’t get past the feeling of being triggered they never get to meet my mushy side - sensitive, nurturing, protective and empathetic Sun, Venus, Mercury in Cancer in 12th side lol
Interesting question, because it's something I think has been ingrained in me from having a mother that projected herself and her insecurities onto me from birth on. It's a matter of "know thyself" and past that, other people's projections just never hit the same anymore. Once I was able to separate out "me" from "who my mother thinks I am," everything else has been small potatoes. I don't need friends/relationships with people who don't know me and like me for who I am, and I can tell the difference with little to no effort. I have rarely felt the need in life to "correct" people's misperceptions of me. If that situation does arise in a relationship that I value, I correct them. However I have found most people that are inclined to project are not inclined to be corrected. After that point, there is nothing I can do "for them." I choose the company I keep. What they think about me doesn't matter to me. They can think that, they are free to be wrong, it hurts no one but themselves.
“However I have found most people that are inclined to project are not inclined to be corrected.” Do you mean that, although you don’t feel the need to correct people, that when you HAVE tried to correct projections from people who don’t truly know you, you have found they don’t take the corrections on board?
Yes, I don't think projecting onto others is "normal and healthy" behavior for someone who knows themselves and has the intention of having healthy relationships. So, in my personal experience, I have tried to "save relationships," especially with family, by attempting to "clear the air" and put everything out on the table with honesty. I have even consented to "even if that is true, how can we move forward from there?" as an approach. I cannot say this has ever "saved a relationship" for me, but I can say that it has relieved me of the burden of keeping relationships that aren't healthy, once I know I have done everything I can to repair them. In my experience, people are projecting something they *want* to believe about you, so that they can hold onto some other personal belief or resentment, and are not likely to give that up easily by "convincing." Someone has to want to see the truth for themselves, and want to let go of resentments for themselves. Nobody can do that for them, although in immaturity I have tried. It's not a "mistake" I would make in my current place in life.
Yeah I hear you and very well said. It’s a lesson I’m still learning.
I once had a supposed friend accuse me of trying to look like someone else because I dyed my hair brown. Brown is my natural hair color. I dyed my hair to cover up a bad purple dye job. Having a sense of humor helps.
I’ve often had it happen where I dye my hair, then my ‘friends’ (ex friends now) would copy me and color theirs the same color. My irritation comes from my Sun opposite Uranus ; I haaaate being copied. As I’ve gotten older and past my first Saturn return, I’ve learned to not care.
Pluto conjunct Sun + ASC in Sagittarius. People either love me or hate me, there's no in between. Usually people that hate me project their insecurities into me and they tend to think I'm being critical of them when I ain't. Even when I'm at my worst people still find a way to "envy" me. I've been fat and my thin friends envied me. I have not graduated yet but I'm having good opportunities and people who already got a degree envy me. At this point it's just a matter of energy. It's like you can't ignore my presence lol
Sag rising and I relate !!! Like my dad literally died when I was in hs and my college friends lowkey think they have it worse bc their dad’s were shi*ty. Like I get it but… And I’m also the least well-off out of my friends but am still envied for the things I do have… while they pretend to be “poor”. Like no matter what I’m always on a pedestal to them which is frustrating bc none of my hardships are ever taken into account
I relate to this. For me it's wealthy people envying me when I'm not. It's a hard life.
Omg, same! I really don't understand it. The bad side is I'm always on people's mind. The good side is I'm always on people's mind ;-)
Being a Scorpio rising and pluto in 1h, I’ve gotten used to people projecting their feelings onto me, and honestly, I just don’t care anymore if they get offended or intimidated by my presence. It doesn’t matter to me. I read a comment a year ago that described this placement as both a curse and a blessing. It’s a blessing because it helps filter the people we meet; the right ones will see through us and won’t project or judge us too quickly. As an introvert, I value quality over quantity when it comes to the people in my life. Although I do get attention, even when I don't want it, I like the idea of being known by almost everyone (like in school, work, or my community) while not knowing them as well I like that invisible line/distance very few dare to cross to get to know me even if Im open to get to know anyone As protection and being sure not being rubbed off w bad energies I sage myself or wear crystals/evil eye
lol the comment about liking the attention from afar is my entire life as a 1st house pluto. It’s like I crave it because I enjoy knowing ppl have that pull to me but at the same time I want them to be scared enough to not try to get to know me lol.
So much yessssss, scorpio rising/pluto 1h here, it fuels the fire to my leo sun lol
omg sameee lol i’m an aqua sun so that must be where we agree 💞💞💞 sister sign things
I used to hate it and feel like a victim in my relationships, but I realized that it’s a unique gift. The people who stay and can handle the reactive feelings they have are valuable friends to me. It also helped me remain detached and allow relationships to ebb and flow. I have this feeling that people stay only as long as needed for both their and my growth and I accept the coming and going easily now.
hold your center
This is so trippy for me to read this right now, for reasons too long to explain but it’s a nice synchronicity for me right now. 3 little words but profound on so many levels. Hold your Center.
rock on, happy to serve the flow
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Ok so I’m late degree Libra rising with Pluto in Scorpio in 1st house and everyone projects on me to my whole life I’ve had to learn that I’m not problem they are (its my birthday today lol)
I have libra risning 1 house pluto in scorpio placement as well, insecure people have always found me and tried to pick a fight that usually escalated due to my agreeable libra like personality but never ended well, due to plutos powerful effect. I just had to be in the same room and breathe…now i dont take it so personally, still people can get disturbed by my presence only. Probably they sense that i can read them too well, and i am still looking too young due to my gemini venus that everyone who is frustrated thinks im an easy target. Hbd btw!
Sounds very similar to me . Thank you ❤️
Happy birthday! Mine is in exactly 2 weeks :)
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Still figuring out how to handle it. It took me a good while to realize that no matter what I do, some people are just going to project and fucking hate me and there's nothing I can really do about it. I think the instance that was the weirdest and hurt the most, though, was an old best friend. Met in 5th grade, friends all the way up through graduating high school. Got her birthday presents every year bc I bugged my parents about it. I brought a second packed lunch to school for a good while explicitly for her bc her mom wouldn't give her lunch money, nor would she send her with food. Finances were tough at home, but I was so upset about it and my mom knew we were good friends so she made shit stretch to help her out. At some point we just seemed to drift apart which sucked but hey shit happens. It wasn't until later that I found out that this girl, for some unknown reason, absolutely hated my fucking guts. I had a mutual friend/my gf at the time tell me that she told her to stay away from me bc I was a bad person or whatever. Never got an actual reason out of either of them for that one. The bad part is this friend was the one who would tell me stories about her doing insane shit like literally keeping a diary log of stalking this girl across the street when she was in like 3rd grade, give or take a year. I had assumed she'd grown out of shit like that, but after us falling out I wonder how much of that concerning behavior and mentality never went away. No idea what was ever going on in her head in retrospect. I also had another ex best friend who I fell out with. Her cited reason was feeling like I wanted her to just watch my life like a side character. I was the one reaching out trying to arrange visits. I was the one talking about missing her and wanting to see her. SHE was the one who would only call me to talk about the drama in her life, claim she missed me, and never actually follow through on plans. That one was just blatant projecting imo. She used to come over to my house several times a week after school, spent the night all the time, the works. Met her in 6th grade, graduated with her, too. I adored both of these girls so much. Loved them like sisters. I've fallen out with a lot of people for silly reasons, but these were the ones that actually hurt. Usually it has something to do with romantic relationships or crushes, my falling outs, but these just hit different and felt much more personal. I still think about both of them a lot. They were some of the people who objectively experienced the best versions of me, and still decided they couldn't stand me. That's what hurts. I know I don't bring my best to every relationship or interaction, but I really did try with them. Sometimes that doesn't matter, though!
as a scorpio rising/pluto 1h in sag if others are projecting onto me i best try to take what they say with a grain of salt. in the past id take projection to heart but im slowly trying to unlearn that but i notice i project on people a lot.
i have so much resentment for others but it’s bc i’m hard on myself and have resent for myself more than anything
Pluto conjunct ascendant in sagittarius here. I got hit with projections and angry stares from others since i was a kid and it´s still present today. You just can´t escape this. It´s crazy how pluto makes people uncomfortable.
I’m just really bitchy
Me too when people piss me off, lol
Scorpio asceendent conjunct Pluto in the 12. I'm learning to notice them in real time, call them out for what they are and I think that rebukes the energy. Other times, I've just walked away, especially if it's not people close to me. Once, I threatened someone, they were om strik 3 though. Also open to suggestions
Scorpio rising, honestly I can care less what others think about me. As if, I’ve not already pointed out my insecurities and mistakes to myself bringing in that awareness before someone else attempts to point it out. Even when someone points it out, I laugh or help them finish their sentences. I eventually see right through them and figure it’s my turn to peck at them. Usually, they wouldn’t tolerate at least a minute because I’ll nail their insecurities quickly with an accuracy. Afterwards, I’m referred to as the bad guy. Which is why I rarely have any friends, they can’t handle the truth. Also that comment about haters being obsessed with you, as a Scorpio rising. I agree! I used to have a teacher back in HS hate me so much but yet so invested in me that he knew my entire class schedule and kept an eye on me. He had teachers watching me from far distances. I’m typically labeled as mysterious. I’m used to it.
I don't care anymore. I don't trust anyone anymore, so I'm not bothered by people's perception of me.
Same over here
I lived with a scorpio rising and tbh it was reversed. Kept lashing out at me and when we sat down to discuss an issue, she would connect the event to all these past stories from her life. That's when I realized she didn't have a problem with me, it was with herself.
i think it can definitely be reversed, energy isn't always inward but can be outward too if not assessed properly. i have met scorpio placements that can end up projecting upon others, although i can still see how it could stem from the experience of constantly being projected on
Agreed
Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon, and Taurus Rising. I’m highly sensitive and an empath. It used to hurt my feelings when people would project, but now I use their projections against them. When people point out things about you that aren’t true, it reveals what they believe about themselves. I’m usually quiet and mind my business, so why are you putting words in my mouth and dictating what my actions mean? Lmao 😂 A lot of Scorpios bother people without even trying. Were that magnetic and attractive. Period.
I have Scorpio moon conjunct rising and Pluto. Moon squared mars. I’ve had lots of bad experiences with people I never wish to repeat, but somehow they follow me and leaves me wondering how I can create stronger boundaries for myself to protect myself. I’m an empathetic and highly sensitive person who feels energies, emotions, intentions and lies of other people. I see through their mask and that’s what makes them uncomfortable, especially people who aren’t truthful or authentic about who they are. I’ve been told I’m hard to read and I think that’s why people tend to tease me without being warranted to. People always project their negativity and assumptions about me or my intentions onto me and they’re often highly mistaken, I’m misunderstood quite a lot and I’m beginning to learn to accept the fact that most people will never understand or know me. That’s fine because I always am actively working to understand myself deeper. I wish I knew how to deal better with people’s projections because I am not sure I am dealing with them quite well all the time. Most of the time I understand why people make certain comments or get triggered by something; it’s more about them and their insecurities than me. However I learned it’s necessary to take it at face value and not overly feel for them - so if somebody makes me feel uncomfortable I just avoid them now, trust my instincts more on that. I don’t need to please anyone who’s trying to make me feel bad about myself unconsciously or consciously. But I do actually take things very deeply and personally that it can let a ton of anger and resentment fester when I feel continually misunderstood and attacked by someone, or if I feel like their intentions are bad.
I feel this too, the anger and resentment, but when I take care of my mental and physical health (including exercise for my Mars energy) I feel embodied, holding my centre, and not so caught up in what other people think of me. People are going to think whatever they want we can’t control that. I think where a lot of my resentment comes from my own mistaken desire to try to get them to see the real me, or to have compassion for me, when I’m reality they aren’t capable of it and don’t really want to. And then I wonder why I’m wasting my time with assholes that I don’t even want in my life, when I have other friends who build me up and I feel comfortable to be myself around.
Yeah I find that it helps to focus on my own inner work/emotions and my happiness. My therapist told me I seemed to take everything at work so personally and to heart, I was like yes I really do. That made me think about how I’m more affected by others than I’d like so it’s def a work in progress.
Lmaoo my Scorpio rising bestie & I always say, “do not perceive me, I do not want to be perceived!!” (Meanwhile we go back and forth with each other privately bitching about how we look to others) I don’t care, she still kind of does, but we have each other to spam it out of our system because we understand 😂
This is more of a Neptune/ascendant/1st house thing. I have it conjunct my ascendant and in my first 😵💫. Pluto is in my 10th house, touches my ascendant and my Scorpio midheaven. The water in my chart amplifies the projections I sense and feel. I love all these aspects, buuut they come at a price. In one answer: I don’t react, and keep doing my own thing. I block, avoid, and protect my energy. Neptune clouds how people see me and they see me how they WANT to see me, not as I am. I think, like Pluto, it acts like a mirror, where insecurities may also be projected onto you. Whether I say something or not, an image of me (that someone else created) always gets pushed onto me, so I’ve kept my distance. That is not my problem, but I will not engage with someone who refuses to try to understand me at a deeper level.
yeah, neptune is my most aspected planet and it aspects a lot of my personal ones. then i have a scorpio rising with pluto in the 2nd. my closest friends are usually people that are able to really see me for who i am and i try my best to stay away from people who aren't able to. i always end up over explaining myself, constantly trying to get them to understand me, etc. eventually i'm just like, alright. it appears as if you're going to believe whatever perception you created in your head, so i'll leave you alone and leave it be. with most people though, no i don't really care how i am perceived for the most part. it's usually people i care about a lot that makes me feel a bit upset
story of my life with a Neptune-Sun, Pisces Venus and Scorpio/pluto rising
Scorpio rising and pluto in scorpio : I don't give a f.
He has a Mars Pluto conj in Libra - https://youtu.be/cYhzyXQckdg?si=1DeNMnlEIA3FOIwv
Pluto in 1st House Exactly on my Ascendant. Conjunct 1 degree as well. Also 4 🦂Planets. 2 of them in 1st house . I resonate with a lot of these comments. So I won’t need to say much. I will say this . My Pluto Conjunct is in Libra . So ,the diplomacy that comes with how Libra (stereotype) applies. I learned to master how I reply to people who don’t like or are intimidated by me . It’s a their problem. And use my words to respond. Words are weapons when used wisely. Or I just ignore.
As a Scorpio moon and highly sensitive person, I’ve developed boundaries that look like not making myself available to everyone all the time. Old me bent over backwards for people and got walked on, new me moves intentionally and prioritizes self care and patience (not responding to texts immediately, not jumping to help other people even when they don’t ask(cringe)). I feel more self love and self respect towards my energy and it feels great. I’m prioritizing relationships that bring joy. I’m taking steps back from relationships that cause stress. As far as projections, my journey with that has shifted over the past three years. Old me got very upset, hard on myself and emotional when this happened. New me sees the world and people as an endless evolution, and sometimes you get caught up in it. The hardest experience I have is being the family scapegoat-cuts deep and to the core. I’ve been processing this for 3 years and finally see a light out of the pain. Much love to everyone, I pray you don’t get tangled up in others mess, and always keep the spotlight on your journey, have compassion and kindness, and love.
I feel that, I’m autistic so boundaries are even more important as I feel people project more onto me due to an inherent inability to read my emotions and intentions. When I was younger I was a lot more giving to an unhealthy extent, but as an adult I prioritize myself and have learned not to care what others think outside of my best friends and husband. If you’re not important to me, and don’t know me intimately, then your opinion of me means nothing.
wow i can also relate to people misunderstanding due to the autism! i've even had other autistic people do something similar to me 🥲
i have Pluto conjunct my Scorpio Ascendant and people do this to me all the time lolll. I just go home and cry about it usually 😅 I can be confrontational sometimes, but usually it's not worth it
LOL same, on top of all that I'm a 12H Scorpio moon too
Scorpio rising conjunct pluto. I will be honest, I don’t know what it is specifically that triggers people sometimes. Sometimes I’m aware I’m acting plutonic, but other times when I’m trying to be social and outgoing I get a lot of unnecessary hate and negative energy from others. I spend a lot of time thinking and reflecting on my interactions, but at the end of the day if I have good intentions for others it shouldn’t matter, I can’t control other’s opinions of me. Astrology shows us we’re all incredibly different people and that’s ok. Came across and resonated with this tumblr post, maybe it will connect with you: https://www.tumblr.com/neptuneslure/751975987200376832/women-with-misogyny-magnet-placements-need-to-hear
I have same aspect and I attract a lot of misogynistic people projecting that onto me. It gets me so angry. I could be doing absolutely nothing and they’ll make comments and remarks at me that cross my boundaries and that is none of their business.
Most are put off, uncomfortable, highly suspicious of me—total pariah vibes. A very select few feel seen and understood and welcomed.
I’m always met with the, “you’re intimidating” and mentioning my eyes. I’ve often heard that people don’t like staring at me because they feel like I’m looking through them. I used to be insecure about that but idc, I just stare lol. I do seem to attract weirdos, people who are obsessive or just come off broken and need guidance. I also have Pluto in my first so I do understand I’m very deep and I need deep relationships so it’s rare to find people I can connect with. I have a small group of people that I trust and am truly myself with and for the most part, I’m okay with it. Stability and security is super important to me in life and friendships, if that ground is shaken …I’m not okay at all. So, I’ve just learned overtime to be picky and a bit critical in a way. I have also recognized I can “test” people so I work hard at not doing that, I try to let things flow because it works out better that way. What will be, will be.
Wow this resonates so deep. Thank you for writing this out!
Scorpio rising conjunct pluto. Also Scorpio sun and venus conjunct pluto. My biggest problem is that people feel like "I understand them more than anyone else" Which I don't necessarily think is true. I'm just a good listener and I am curious about what they're going trough. This tends to put me in difficult situations. As people open up to me, it's like they want more and more of me. Especially when it comes to mental health. I often find myself being other peoples psychologist/therapeut or a caregiver. I don't really mind it - but it's not mutual. This makes me feel lonely a lot of times. It's like nobody knows anything about me, or am curious about my life and what I'm going trough. Yet they still want to maintain a close friendship with me. My latest memory was from my friends bachelor party. It's been 1-2 years since I've met some of my old friends there, yet NOBODY asked a single question about me. Since we met I had bought my first house, met a man, gotten engaged. Nobody seemed to care - every conversation we had was about them. Now they're like "hey it was soo nice to meet you, we should travel together this fall". While I feel like our friendship is over. I don't want to deal with them anymore. They don't care. They're not interested. Perhaps most of these experiences are caused by having sun in 12th house, but I also believe that my Scorpio rising/pluto placement makes people think that I am stronger than what I am. And perhaps my Scorpio/pluto energy no longer want to deal with platonic "friendships" anymore. I want my friendships to be more truthful and rewarding than this. So I prefer to just be by myself. Same experience about men by the way. After some months of dating they'd be like "You're a completely different person than who I thought you was". Well.... we always kept talking about you you you. Perhaps you'd know me better if you were more interested in who I actually am. My fiance is the only one who's actually been interested in getting to know the real me. He's a scorpio asc conjunct pluto as well! I love him so much.
I resonate with this so much!!!! I keep giving too much of myself to people who don’t return the favor and yeah just recently I reconnected with a friend who moved away from home 6yrs ago and just recently moved back. Now I’m reevaluating the whole friendship. She hasn’t asked me any genuine questions about my life or taken any interest in it, while im constantly listening to her talk about hers. I have a 12th house Sun too and really feel so misunderstood and overlooked. It’s so isolating.
I resonate so much with this, especially lately where strangers just dump so much in casual conversation on me and it's not reciprocated at all. Part of it is my psychology background but the more it happens, the less interest I have in it. I do mind I'm realizing. And so lately I'm making only effort where it's reciprocal. Anything else leaves me burnt out.
Most of the patterns I found in my own life stem from childhood so shadow work is always a big theme. People who knew me for years never really knew me at all, and I know now that part of that was because I didn’t know who I was. Pluto is also going deep to uncover ourselves especially when it’s in the 1st house.
Those were never friends. You deserve better people/friends and I hope you find them.
Scorpio rising conjunct pluto. Also Scorpio sun and venus conjunct pluto. My biggest problem is that people feel like "I understand them more than anyone else" Which I don't necessarily think is true. I'm just a good listener and I am curious about what they're going trough. This tends to put me in difficult situations. As people open up to me, it's like they want more and more of me. Especially when it comes to mental health. I often find myself being other peoples psychologist/therapeut or a caregiver. I don't really mind it - but it's not mutual. This makes me feel lonely a lot of times. It's like nobody knows anything about me, or am curious about my life and what I'm going trough. Yet they still want to maintain a close friendship with me. My latest memory was from my friends bachelor party. It's been 1-2 years since I've met some of my old friends there, yet NOBODY asked a single question about me. Since we met I had bought my first house, met a man, gotten engaged. Nobody seemed to care - every conversation we had was about them. Now they're like "hey it was soo nice to meet you, we should travel together this fall". While I feel like our friendship is over. I don't want to deal with them anymore. They don't care. They're not interested. Perhaps most of these experiences are caused by having sun in 12th house, but I also believe that my Scorpio rising/pluto placement makes people think that I am stronger than what I am. And perhaps my Scorpio/pluto energy no longer want to deal with platonic "friendships" anymore. I want my friendships to be more truthful and rewarding than this. So I prefer to just be by myself. Same experience about men by the way. After some months of dating they'd be like "You're a completely different person than who I thought you was". Well.... we always kept talking about you you you. Perhaps you'd know me better if you were more interested in who I actually am. My fiance is the only one who's actually been interested in getting to know the real me. He's a scorpio asc conjunct pluto as well! I love him so much. Edit: Sorry about the double-post! Got some internet/reddit problems.
Holy bejeezus your reply resonates deeply with me. I’m a Scorpio sun and Scorpio rising. I actually am a mental health therapist as my career too 😂 but, I think I took that path because growing up I was always the listener and the person people go to. I have a lot of very difficult things happening in my life right now and tell my therapist how alone I feel. That nobody understands what’s going on and I tell people I’m not okay but everyone just keeps saying how strong I am. I have a genuine curiosity about others lives and do notice that it seems to make others not ask questions about me. Anyways, thanks for writing this. It made me feel a little less alone today.
At this point I just shrug. Sure, I'm 'scary'. Whatever 🙄 Also most of my friends (and my husband) have Scorpio risings or moons. Not intentional, obviously, but I guess that energy must draw us together.
Scorpio rising doesn't let anyone push them around.
Exactly
Projection is a Pisces/Neptune thing, not necessarily Pluto. With Pisces or Neptune on the ascendant, people will see on you what they want to see. People will look at you and see their idea of you, not who you are in reality. More than that, the Pisces/Neptune person might even struggle to show their authentic self because they grew up too used to having to pretend to be something else in order to fit in. Scorpio/Pluto is more about feeling like the world is attacking you and therefore you must protect yourself. People born with Scorpio or Pluto on the ascendant, grew up having to fight to be who they are, were constantly attacked for becoming an individual so, if not worked on, they grow up with some sense of paranoia, of: people can’t be trusted, they want to attack and control me, therefore I must fight back and protect myself. For those with Scorpio or Pluto on the ascendant, I would ask you: to what point are people really against you and to what point it’s just trauma from the past resurfacing in your interaction with others that makes you want to defend yourself?
I have both plutonic and neptunian placements and the fine line between my paranoia and strong intuition is really thin. The personal attacks is real.
That’s an incredibly poignant but real and pragmatic question, gave me something to introspect and meditate on.
With Pluto in the 12th conjunct the ascendent tho, the house of Pisces, couldn't it be blended / inform each other?
With Pluto on the ascendant it’s rarely the trauma and most often projection. Pluto is the key here.
As a Scorpio rising: I’m just a soul whose intentions are good, oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood
I think I find it hard to also discern when I am projecting. Scorp placements I feel can be affected by both and so I personally feel it might be useful to sit with yourself and get a sense of what you are doing. If I do feel that the projection is coming from the other end, I limit my time and energy with them.
Pluto rising! I just let them be at this point in my life. Their perceptions will never change who I am on the inside.
Is pluto conjunct your rising?
Yeah! By 2°.
Oh wait, duh, scorpio, sorry, it's almost two am here 😅
What sign?
I have a black moon Lilith in 8th house and Pluto conjunct mars in 12th (also Venus) and it mainly manifests in gas lighting from siblings. My sister wants me to pick up and send her meds to her but my skill set doesn’t include packaging and lying to the post office by writing vitamins on whatever box? I have told her this that it isn’t allowed and the last meds I sent have not arrived and it has been a week, maybe I shouldn’t be doing this and most of all I am talking about a thought gas lighting produced and posting about it here. Also she gave me $100 for expenses for dog food for her Corgi (no fence like she promised to install) but I have exceeded thanks to mailing stuff for her. Gas lighting is like having a kettle start whistling because a sibling put it on the stove and left the house.
Scorpio moon and rising. I stay away from people 😂 seriously though, I'm usually able to see right through their words and immediately recognize the deeper meaning of what they're trying to convey. If someone is, say, jealous of me for x reason I'll point out that they need to heal some sort of insecurity inside themselves and that it's not my problem. I usually piss people off lol
Fellow Scorpio moon and rising here, I couldn’t relate to this more especially as I get older (34 currently) I innately can analyze and see through the illusion of a persons societal mask/behaviors that they project onto others, when it comes to my romantic partners and personal relationships I unintentionally trigger deep insecurities from some sort of repressed trauma that hasn’t been dealt with. It gets exhausting which is why I truly enjoy my solitude lol. Thanks for sharing I’m glad I’m not fully alone in this.
Pluto is retrograde in my chart which I’ve associated with feeling invisible and burdened by projections at the same time. Not sure if that is a valid assessment. I have taken way too long with setting up stricter boundaries which I blame my Virgo rising for which always wants to help :)
I think it depends on a lot more since it’s an outer planet and is Rx for 6 months out of the year on repeat. It doesn’t mean it’s not important just means there’s gotta be more factoring into it
Correct! It's generational and so it's influence will be felt more through how it aspects other more personal planets in a chart.
It depends on who but I tell them their insecurities based on whatever they tried to project on me. I don’t take it personally because I know that they probably have some internal issues with themselves and try and project it onto me to make themselves feel like I’m on their level. Only someone who is insecure will try and project on me, which is really the result of having Leo placements and a Scorpio Moon and Rising and having fixed placements. Because I’m Martian it’s mainly women who will pull things out of thin air because they feel like I need to be humbled.
I’m a Leo with a Scorpio rising and I feel this so much! As I get older I realise I was lowkey bullied in high school but it just didn’t affect me cause I was headstrong and knew they were just projecting. I also feel like I repel fake people haha.
Same. I’m pretty secure about myself.
I'm a Taurus Rising with Scorpio moon and Pluto and I feel this. I've made the mistake for too long of sharing way too much, wanting to connect to others and not understanding why they all act the way they do. Thanks Leo stellium. But I've reached a point now where my business is my business. I've been blackmailed, manipulated, and gossiped about way too much and it's done my mental in. Now I approach it as that's their fucking problem and if it's so much of a problem, we're gonna talk like mature grown adults. None of this high-school emotional drama. And my circle is extremely small now. I have to protect my peace.
Write about it
Pluto conjunct my ASC and I’m still learning how to deal with people’s projections. I get angry lol and also people talk about me behind my back when I’m doing nothing? You have to be careful with who you trust and share personal details with
Goodness, I could write an entire book on this I feel like lol. I’ve just gotten used to it at this point and try to protect my boundaries and energy
You just grow into it.
As a scorpio rising with 4 positive pluto aspects to my sun/mercury/moon/uranus I deal really well. I had a hard time when I was 30yo starting as an RN and felt EVERYONE (patients primarily but had some rough coworker experiences) clinging onto me. Thankfully I went on maturnity leave and had time to really reflect and think about what I needed to succeed. I developed great boundaries and keep only genuine people as close friends which helps me breath in my space better. I see others well and use that to help them get past themselves. I do this inconspicuously. It's a slow, unsuspecting dance so they come to their own conclusion that i am a fine human. There is always some personal hurdle i help them get past that clears things up. It's different for everyone. I see it as a blessing to help others.
I have a Scorpio midheaven and it’s wild. People are kind of fascinated and want to sleep with you but also want to put you in your place or something. You get haters that are also kind of obsessed.
The objectification is real…every “guy friend” I’ve had tried to sleep with me, and I literally was not attracted to any of them. Just recently I met someone at an event who I thought was being nice and then he asked me to go dancing at a club. In my head I was like dude I don’t do clubs and I need to go home and sleep cause it’s past my bedtime.
I have this too, also Scorpio sun, Mercury, and Venus 😱
same! this is a good take