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cory_ander69

You know what's funny? Last date I had, it fellt like the conversation was being forced. It felt like we were two professionals trying to remain as corporate as possible. And then when it came time to end the date, I told her "can I be honest? You're really sweet but I really feel like our chemistry is really more of a friendly one than a romantic one" To which she agreed as it was pretty obvious. But here's the funny part, the moment we realized there was nothing between us, the rest of the date actually became genuinely fun because there was no expectations.


LokiBonk

And then?


cory_ander69

And then we kissed and everybody clapped! No, I simply offered to drop her home and the drive was really pleasant as we both didn't feel the need to filter ourselves anymore. I think a big reason why there was so much tension is because our close friend had set us up and its hard to be yourself when you're worried about what might be said afterwards. Hence why i tend to not to go through the friend setup route but it was an experience!


devandroid99

Sounds like you should give her a call...


Quick_Coyote_7649

Yeah seems they hit it off well and wouldve for longer if they both communicated they were both just a bit stressed


JoiedevivreGRE

Lol these comments. He gave a good answer and people are hounding him.


Flat_News_2000

No wonder people get so confused about dating.


BaIIZDeepInUrMom

Yea, sounds like you are both in the exact same mindset šŸ¤£


jontttu

This is interesting and makes sense. I wonder if there was another way to make eachother not take the date so seriously and relax a bit. There should be no pressure to perform.


cory_ander69

Thrrr 100% would have. I think there were many ways to handle it differently but before i knew it i kinda fell into that corporate rythm because i just couldn't get a proper read on her until i had a fuck this moment and simply told her at the end of it


MentalEarthquakes

ā€œIt was great meeting you, but itā€™s not a match for me.ā€


No_Detective_But_304

*ā€Yeah, thatā€™s gonna be a no from me Dawg.ā€*


philopsilopher

"For you, the chase is over."


LameBMX

*isn't"


HuluAndH4ng

The Randy Jackson special


OwnUnderstanding4542

I remember one time I was on a date and the girl was telling me about how she always pays for her half of the bill on the first date because she doesn't want to feel like she owes the guy anything. I thought it was a pretty fair approach. Anyway, we ended up splitting the bill 50/50 and I never heard from her again, so I guess it worked out for her.


Careless-Finish2819

Why canā€™t all men be this straight forward. I rather know than waste my time guessing and waiting


Cottn

Men and women could both stand to be more straight forward about their intentions. I don't think this is exclusively a men thing.


Careless-Finish2819

100% I was just saying that coming from my perspective. But yes you are right


Calmyoursoul

If it's more than 3 days with no contact and you're still guessing, don't


7ampersand

Even for FWB? Iā€™m curious how it varies with guys.


Calmyoursoul

Fwb is a different dynamic. Fwb if I was busy sometimes I couldn't see or hangout for a week or more, but I'm still big on communication myself so I would still talk and text If she keeps hinting at a relationship and Ive been clear i wasn't interested I just kind of slow fade if they won't take no for an answer


Faolan197

Literally every date I don't want to pursue I follow up with 30 minutes after I get home (or when I've come to that realisation in the morning etc) "Hey it was nice meeting you but I don't think we'd be a good match, good luck" or something similar. I've had a few "Oh that's a shame I thought it went well"'s but mostly it's a "No worries, I was feeling the same but didn't know how to word it"


Inevitable_Being_573

They could also just be trying to save face. Regardless, being honest in a compassionate way shouldnā€™t be predicated on how someone else will respond.


flan_o_bannon

Pretty much my method. Never gotten a bad response from it


Quick_Coyote_7649

ā€œIt went well but not wel enoughā€


Ahielia

How is this subtle.


Youknowimgood

It's not, but that is the point. Instead of dancing around the topic and saying vague things, you just communicate clearly where you're standing.


sarcasticvarient

That not so subtle bro.


MentalEarthquakes

Thatā€™s the point. You should not be subtle about this. Be a man and cut her loose.


Come-for-Megatron

I just tell her. I never ghost anyone


ThinOriginal5038

Straight up, ā€œI had a really good time but I donā€™t feel any chemistry, you seem awesome though, best of luckā€


thatblackbowtie

"i didnt have a good time and you was awful thanks for nothing pimp"


ThinOriginal5038

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


totor1111

That's the last resource that I had to use, she kept pushing me to date her even though I said it wouldn't work and that I was and still not ready for a relationship


softfart

Is it ghosting if youā€™re asking someone to leave you alone and you have to avoid them?


MontEcola

No. You have no obligation to go on dates to talk to someone, and you don't need a reason. If the person has a reasonable expectation to see you, and you sudden disappear it is ghosting. You know, like a ghost. Now you are here with me. Now you are gone forever. Ghost. (If there is danger of any kind you can also disappear. And that is justified and recommended).


grandma_minnie

The world needs more people like you


MILK_DRINKER_9001

My mother always told me to be a gentleman and pick up the check. I did so on a date once that was going so-so. When I got up to use the restroom, she put her credit card on the table. I was so flustered I didn't know what to do. I picked up the check and said "thanks" and we parted ways.


Quick_Coyote_7649

Why did her generosity flabbergast you?


snakewithnoname

Honestly, this.


playinwords

respeck


The_Shoe_Is_Here

Tell her after the date or if she reaches out to you again??


Fit-Start9993

This is the way. Telling a woman that there won't be a second date is presumptuous unless she's asking for a second date.


Comfortable-Policy70

I move to Uruguay before the dessert arrives


Silverbulletday6

Tell her you have to go to Yemen on business


Revolutionary_Law586

15 Yemen road, Yemen.


SwearToSaintBatman

When we get to Reddit can I crash at your place?


Ballerina_clutz

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


smalltittyprepexwife

Go to Belize. You know, where Mike is?


GusChiiiiiggins

Or just blurt out ā€œwe should do this again sometime!ā€


Civil-Milk-0729

Ahhhh *sigh* my familys native country. My {to be}Retirement location šŸ„°šŸ„°šŸ„°


ElectriciSea

Best rejection I got was him just saying "I don't think I've found what I'm looking for yet, but take great care and thanks for a nice date." Seemed very sincere and I appreciate the not ghosting.


Environmental_Ad4487

Honestly. Just tell her. Ghosting is mean, cowardly, and immature.


playinwords

appreciate u šŸ«¶šŸ»


Environmental_Ad4487

Thanks!šŸ™‚


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Nice-Ship3263

Honestly, sometimes I "ghost" someone because I am tired of being responsible for almost 100% of the communication as a man in a date, so sometimes I think: "fuck it, if you don't send me a message, I am fine with not sending you anything either". This means she _will_ get an honest reply if she contacts me after a date, but guess how often I had to do that?


Environmental_Ad4487

Must have been one hell of a date.


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Environmental_Ad4487

According to many female friends, the woman rarely reaches out. Even though we are in this "equity" climate, it seems that this is an area where they like things "traditional."


lqxpl

Fuck nuance. Life is complicated, human relationships doubly-so. Everyone has off days, so itā€™d have to be pretty catastrophic for me to not be open to a second date. If things are just not fun, and itā€™s going really poorly, Iā€™ll say ā€œIā€™m sorry, this just isnā€™t working for me.ā€ I did this during a job interview that was going really poorly. The interview had taken on an adversarial tone, and trying to remain civil with the interviewer was exhausting. I cut them off mid-sentence and said, ā€œIā€™m sorry. This isnā€™t going to workā€ and left. Early dates arenā€™t that different from interviews. If it isnā€™t working, thereā€™s nothing wrong with reclaiming your time. Just donā€™t waste your time with hints and cues.


EL_INSUFRIBLE

You are on šŸ”„


randomredditing

100% man I will cut dates short if it just isnā€™t going well. Itā€™s why I always carry $60 in cash on me for a first date so I can throw down, not leave her with the bill, and keep my time/sanity.


AshenHaemonculus

Job interviews are a lot like dating women. No one wants to be the first to take a chance on you.


Natural_Sweet_Tea

A handshake and wishing her luck in finding what they are looking forā€¦


Hoopy223

I just tell her Iā€™m not feeling it.


Octang

Grow a pair and just tell her you're not feeling it. Come on.


Witty_Wishbone_6744

I rarely turn down a second date. It has to go extremely horribly. I usually always go on a second date to confirm that I donā€™t want to date her. People can be nervous and stiff on the first date. Once theyā€™re comfortable theyā€™ll be able to show you their best self. I wait for that second date to see if things will get better or worse. I donā€™t give hints. Itā€™s not really healthy or helpful to anyone. Iā€™m politely and direct. There are signs though. One sure way to know Iā€™m not interested in dating further is if thereā€™s minimal to zero physical contact. Especially if I reject a kiss. If I turn down sex I 100% donā€™t want to date you. Thatā€™s not me giving hints though. Itā€™s me not wanting to lead her on and hurt her. This answer is unique to me. I donā€™t recommend using this answer to generalize other guys.


powerpuff000

I think I was ghosted because of thisā€¦ I was so nervous and uninteresting even though I still liked being in his presence . How weird But he was a jerk.


McPhatiusJackson

awkward side hug.


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daftvaderV2

Fist bump


Glittering_Good_9345

Chest bump


No_Detective_But_304

Dick to ass bump.


ahuvamaharlika

Ohh so this is what it means


Different_Golf5324

ā€œIā€™m not gay, but Iā€™ll learnā€.


555thatsgottabefake

ā€œIm married to the seaā€


ykoreaa

šŸ˜†šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Rare_Cryptographer89

If she reaches out Iā€™ll tell her but if she doesnā€™t, Iā€™ll leave it at that


jackjackj8ck

Yeah, as a woman, this is my preferred way. It feels like a mutual understanding.


TheLateThagSimmons

Yeah, I don't feel it's ghosting if neither party says anything. If nobody reaches out, that's mutual. Ghosting requires ignoring attempts at communication. I'm opposed to ghosting, but I'm fine with mutually going our separate ways.


DietCokeYummie

Yeah, everyone on Reddit is quick to call this sort of thing "ghosting", but if you're both on the same page that's not what it is. In my day, this was plain ole "fizzling out".


jackjackj8ck

Yeah I think if I reached out to a dude to see if he was interested in another date and he didnā€™t respond, *then* thatā€™s not great But if no one reaches out, then fair enough


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OtherwiseSystem8315

Ja feel


PeperomiaLadder

What kinda cues? šŸ¤”


Nojoke183

Don't think alot of people in this thread understand the word "subtle" lol Also pretty sure most of them are not >30 and grew up in the age of texting as kids cuz everyone is saying they send a firm rejection text explaining it but anyone who knows modern dating knows that's not the norm. Most "subtle" hints you'll get involve a 12+ hour reply text, if one at all.


StrtupJ

You see this type of selection bias in all the threads in this sub. People are terrified of the downvotes when it comes to admitting they just ghost like the majority.


Trailjump

That's kinda the thing though. As men we are expected to initiate everything including conversations in the early stages. So for men "ghosting" normally means you just decided not to send her a message that day, and she never did because you never did. And rather than take the initiative she just gets mad that you didn't and says you ghosted. When ghosting in reality would mean she sent messages and he never responded.


StrtupJ

Iā€™m glad you said that. Most women donā€™t seem to understand communication goes both ways. Even if the date wasnā€™t the best, it would mean a lot if they still initiated afterwards and showed interest. Itā€™s very attractive when somebody demonstrates a desire for you. And if not well like you said, I have no problem not falling over myself to pursue them either.


Trailjump

Exactly, we want to be wanted too


DietCokeYummie

Exactly. It's not even necessarily ghosting. If you both were meh about the date, it's just regular ole fizzling out. This is very common in dating. Only on Reddit do you get 90% of the users saying they type out a clear rejection text. You don't *need* a rejection in most failed dating situations. Really only need it if the other person is trying to reach out to you.


Nojoke183

Personally I wouldn't call that ghosting, that's just ceasing to talk to each other. If someone isn't left on read then I wouldn't consider it being ghosted


Not_Another_Cookbook

So I've been on very few first dates. 3 total. 1 didn't have a second date. 1 was a long-term goth girlfriend that ended in us breaking up because she chose drugs and doing porn over me And finally my last first dated ended with me marrying my best friend. The first first date I ever had ended because she broke my arm because I didn't want to give her a kiss good bye. Worst blind date by a friend ever. I met my wife the old fashioned way. Got hit by a car and she took me to medical.


PolyThrowaway524

I just tell them. Subtlety has never been my thing.


Fynndidit

I tell her with an unusual way to communicate...******words****** 50/50 is a given from the beginning for me, there is no first date if she's not willing


Freeasabird01

Everyone in this thread talking about ghosting. If both of you never follow up after the date, itā€™s not ghosting. Itā€™s just the end, a mutual end at that. You only need to say something if she comes back later asking to keep things going. Maybe itā€™s an age thing (mid 40s guy here) but most women wait for the guy to continue the conversation after the first date.


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BelleMused

You're absolutely right! I can NOT house I've never been in. lol


garagehaircuts

Fart


McNinjaX

Subtle AF lmao


singleguy79

You guys get dates?


TheBiggerFishy

Just tell her upfront with all the respect you posses of.


Fast_Tea_9389

If she comes off as a decent human being, I tell her. If she comes off as a shitty human being, she never hears from me again.


TheBoozedBandit

I'd love to get to know you better (if she's friend material) but romantically, I think we can both agree there is a better match for us out there. Why subtly hint? Just let them know


SeptemberIsMyHomie

I fart. I fart hard and loud. This usually makes not having a second date her decision.


thunderfox57

She said: ā€œthis was fun. I would like to do this againā€ I said: ā€œyeaaaaaaaaaah. Maybeā€


CommunityGlittering2

She said: ā€œthis was fun. I would like to do this againā€ I said: ā€œReally?ā€


VegetableWinter9223

I'll go start the car


EastPlenty518

I don't have one, I usually get ghosted before that happens


WhatsTheAnswerDude

Not need to be subtle, just be direct. We're adults. This is explained BEAUTIFULLY in Moneyball and I'm paraphrasing here.... "What would your rather have, bullet to the head....or 5 to the chest and bleed out?" A LOT more people will respect you just be being direct and NOT wasting their time. NEVER understood why ghosting or bsing would ever be a better option. "Hey....I've had a lot of fun talking to you and spending time with you, but I just don't think this is for me." "I've really appreciated the time we've spent but I'm not exactly feeling the vibe and I think it's better we just part ways." "I really enjoyed talking to you but during the date you kind of kept talking and didn't exactly stop when I tried to say something. I get that you're maybe nervous but I just don't think our vibes mesh well and id rather just be direct with you than waste your time. I appreciate everything and wish you the best nonetheless."


JimmyEyedJoe

Most dudes donā€™t do hints


project_good_vibes

Isn't it us who are usually complaining about women and their inability to ask for what they want? Just tell her, don't be subtle, do both of you a favour.


cashmeeben

I've had it happen a few times that the lady and I just did not click. I generally sent the following: "Hi XYZ, I had a great time this evening but truly speaking I did not feel a connection beyond friendship, which is not what I am after. I wish you luck, I know your guy is out there".


zzz_red

Tell her. No subtleties.


Affectionate-Still15

Calling them bro or dude


rough-stud

Climbing out the bathroom window and leaving her with the bill


SlapHappyDude

Not making tentative plans to hang out again. Not making any effort to touch her. Calling her Bro or Dude


TopShelfSnipes

My move was always either to not text her after the date to say what a good time I had, or either that, to text her to thank her for her time and wish her luck in her search while saying I didn't feel a connection. Approach was determined based on how crazy I thought they'd be about handling the rejection.


The_Paleking

These are both baaaad. The mini ghost or the HR response. šŸ’€


OkProfessional9405

When I cancel the burner number I gave her.


Golfnpickle

You are a great girl, but not the girl for me.


Joeybfast

If you don't want a second date just say, don't give freaking hints. Like why in the world you do that and not just say it.


MontEcola

We met, hugged and chatted. We walked around the park, and did not sit down for coffee. I walked her to her car and was about to ask for a second date. I asked her if she enjoyed kayaking. She gave such a sarcastic response with an ugly face to show disgust. A simple no thanks would have been enough. I said just , 'ok'. I turned and walked away. I got in my car and unmatched. I bumped into her a month or so later. I saw her and smiled. She stopped, turned a 180 and ducked into a shop. I wonder if I made it to 'are.we dating the same guy?'


DutchOnionKnight

My mom thought me tp treat others how I wanted to be treated. So I just straight up tell her.


IcariusFallen

The subtle hint I give is saying "It was nice meeting you, but I don't think we'd work out.."


the40thieves

You say it best, when you say nothing at all.


Chance_Can1788

Donā€™t give a hint, just be up front.


jefuchs

When you can't get a first date.


Proud-Performance-91

Girl here, I just give them an awkward hug and get tf in my car.


FoilHattiest

"So... got any hot sisters?"


Illustrious_Bus9486

Why hint?


Accomplished-Gap2307

ā€œYouā€™re very nice, but I donā€™t see a future with you. I wish you all the best!ā€


CringeDaddy_69

Lmao ā€œsubtle hintā€? Bro we just tell them we arenā€™t interested


MagicCrazything

You could just be a grown ass man about it. Just be honest and kind. ā€œHey, I appreciate your time. I just donā€™t think weā€™re a good fit for each other. I wish you the best of luck.ā€ You donā€™t really have to give more detail than that. Iā€™ve always thought that giving people hints and ghosting people is pretty cowardly. Youā€™re just giving people false hope for no other reason than you not being able to participate in an awkward conversation. Ghosting people and giving hints just makes shit wayyyyyyyy more awkward in the long run anyway. Edit: there are exceptions to this of course. Obviously, itā€™s probably best to ghost someone if youā€™re worried theyā€™re gonna hunt you down or just generally be crazy. Best to build that wall fast.


The_Crazy_Swede

Why hinting when telling straight up is the most efficient way to communicate the message. I would have said something along the lines of "thanks for the date, I can see that you're a good person but I can also unfortunately not see any chemistry between us and think it is better for both of us to go separate ways. Good luck!"


Intrepid-Rip-2280

Send her a [link](http://evaapp.ai) to Eva AI sexting bot, lol


Master_Kenobi_

Men don't hint at anything. We can be quite blunt


dizzyrosecal

I donā€™t give a subtle hint. I send a message afterwards in which I either say that I want to see them again or that I am not interested in pursuing things further. Iā€™m direct, but polite. I see no reason to leave hints rather than be direct. Leaving hints is nowhere near as clear as people ever think it is. I donā€™t want to waste anybodyā€™s time by leaving room for doubt.


TacoStrong

Men donā€™t really ā€œhintā€, I would just tell her nicely.


Sundahh

If my date felt like that, I'd prefer she straight up tells me so. We're not kids anymore. No need for unneccessary games. So I'd just politely tell her "it's been a grest evening, but I just don't feel that it would work out"


bobcatt

LADIES, LADIES WE ARE MEN WE DON'T GIVE "HINTS"! Nor do we know what they are. And we sure as hell don't know how to read them or LOOK for them. Hints are like fairy tales, made up dreams from someone's imagination. At best a long-forgotten language like Klingon that only super hyper nerds know and understand. So come back from your delusional fantasy world where everyone speaks in "Hints" and somehow understands what they really mean and use real words to communicate with us. Remember we are decedents of Neanderthals. Hints make as much sense as fart in the wind. Something you make jokes about and then forget.


rkmvca

"We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors."


Triumphant-Butthole

No eye contact


IrregularBastard

I tell her ā€œthanks for the date, but Iā€™m not interested in a second.ā€ I split all dates 50/50. Itā€™s a quick way to weed out freeloaders and entitled women.


kaosethema

Subtle? real men are not subtle.


Wunderkinds

Subtle hint? Are we women? Either ghost her kr or be awkward and tell her.


worstnameever2

I won't mention doing this again or asking when she's free next.


thatblackbowtie

im just ghosting tbh. we are all adults they can handle not hearing from the person they known for 2 days


darkstar1031

Your inability to communicate is part of the reason you're dating and not married.Ā 


horizons190

I donā€™t follow up text Or I might and just say Iā€™m not feeling it, which is probably the nicer thing to do


miderots

Honesty


Gluv221

I'm pretty forward will usually send a message after the first day just saying I was not feeling it. Polite but forward


xKhira

Don't hint. Tell them you aren't interested. If it's a safety concern, get yourself home beforehand.


ilContedeibreefinti

Side hug.


Blagoslov_stonoge

I am not a person for subtle hints. I just tell it how it is.


_Jorge007_

At the end of the date, I talk less and make less questions. Awkward silences...


West-Cabinet-2169

"No."


Super_Chicken22

It depends. Some that can handle it, you tell them to their face. Others that may go ballistic you call them. The creepy ones who may stalk you, just ghost them. It depends.


_pout_

I pay the check and leave it at a noncommittal hug. Pretty clear.


precipotado

You are a gentleman


PretzelBitesOnAcid

It's a no for me dog


No_Detective_But_304

I tell her I have to return to the future in my DeLorean.


ChefPoodle

Female here, but why do guys at the end of a date say, ā€œthis was fun ,we should do this again!ā€ And then ghost you?


ElrohirFindican

I'm a very direct person in general, so I'd just say something like "you seem great but I just don't think there's any chemistry. I wish you all the best and I appreciate you giving it a shot." Or... Depending on the situation it could be something like "this was a bad idea and I have no desire to see you again"... Admittedly this has only happened once and it was when she showed up late and immediately started making fun of our server who was obviously overwhelmed and trying to keep up with too many tables because they were under staffed. I don't play that game. If you treat service workers or dogs poorly, I'm instantly out. And I'll tell you exactly why if you want to know.


EveryDisaster7018

I'm super subtle, I usually say the following, thank you for tonight but I feel we aren't a fit. Wish you the best though.


fhilaii

First of all, definitely no kiss at the end. If she doesn't text you after the date it's likely she didn't have a good time either. If she texts you and you get the sense she wants it to continue, just tell her you didn't feel a connection.


AlteredCabron2

be an adult tell the truth


hoteldetective_

ā€œHey, I had a great time but Iā€™m not feeling the romantic connection Iā€™m looking for. I wish you the best.ā€ Keep it simple, keep it honest. If they react negatively, it says much more about them than you. If youā€™re willing to open the door and enter a persons life, you should be willing to close it too.


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Don't kiss or fuck her


DrWhoisOverRated

I tell her I love her. That guarantees she'll never call again.


Crustybuttt

Is she dtf? The conversation can wait until I dip my wick.


Sorrelandroan

Best of luck in your future endeavours


proglysergic

I donā€™t think a hint is an adult thing to do unless youā€™re in a hostage situation.


6byfour

I fling the condom against the wall, thank her and tell her weā€™re a one and done.


notzenith3

Just telling them over chat after the date is over. As I can gather my thoughts better.


harvey_croat

It was nice to meet you, wish you all the best


sarcasticvarient

I just say ā€œIā€™ll give you a call, (pause) sometime.ā€


silverman169

I just tell her. Or sometimes I won't even go for a goodbye hug.


OJay23

You seem nice, I'm not sure I want to date you, but can we be friends?


Hot-Plate-3704

I sometimes said ā€œdo you want one more drinkā€ to make it clear it was the last. Often this would be the 2nd drink of the night.


Typical_Hour_6056

The bill one is a good indicator. Another one is the "we'll see" and other evasive stuff should she push for another date. That said, most women don't have the spine to do that and hope you will.


ShirtLegal6023

I stop asking to hang out


Prize_Pay9279

I emotionally/mentally check out from the conversation and I end the date with a quick ā€œnice meeting youā€ or ā€œsee ya laterā€.


The_Local_Rapier

Asking her what time it is while still on our first date


ads90

A lot of people on this thread donā€™t know what ghosting means.


Hot_Head_5927

I always wait to see if she will offer to split the bill. If she does, it's a green flag and I'll go for a 2nd date. If she doesn't, she goes in the hookups only category. She's telling me that she's simply interested in using me so I feel zero reason to not use her. Users get used. I'll do a "check please" early, if I want nothing to do with her. If she offers to pay, I might give her a 2nd chance at that point. Offering to chip in is a pretty solid "quality human" signal for me.


Extra-Captain1126

Whatā€™s a date?


DKerriganuk

Just Stop putting effort in to conversation.