I don't know about "taken over by rich people" part, but on the other hands, I have seen some food trucks serve Vietnamese pho or noodles, they are like goddamn restaurants on wheels.
Yes. There isn't a whole lot of meat on the wing. Buffalo wings became a way to make the cheap part palatable, then Buffalo wings became fashionable, then people invented new recipes for chicken wings. Supply and demand did its thing and now wings are one of the more expensive parts of a chicken.
My father-in-law grew up in a fishing town on Canada’s east coast. The (mainly) cod fishermen considered lobster to be a nuisance inadvertent catch, so it was sold off cheaply to local merchants.
The poor kids like my father-in-law thus would take lobster sandwiches to school for lunch (lobster rolls now sell for up to $40) and the richer kids would get luncheon meats like bologna and boiled ham.
In the days before Independence in Massachusetts, lobster was seen as a pest. The only people that would use them regularly was the prison system. The inmates rioted on more than one occasion because they considered it cruel and unusual punishment having to eat lobster everyday.
Cheap cuts of meat! Flank steak used to be cheap, and delicious! Tri-tip, used to be cheap. I was at Publix the other day and f-ing chuck roast was $10.33/lb.. W...T...F...
This is what I came to say. So many formerly cheap cuts cost an arm and a leg now. It's insane. There are very few cheap cuts left and frankly the few that are still cheap, are because they're genuinely poor quality or it's very difficult to make them tasty.
Oh and forget about fucking skirt steak, I can't even buy that anymore if I want to because restaurants already bought all of them! What even is this world anymore, a bitch can't even make carne asada.
It’s less that they just *said* they were a superfood, and more that people figured out that they actually are extremely healthy to eat.
It was first world countries that determined that anything that isn’t sugary is “more valuable”. Avocados can’t get you fat and addicted to eating more like other unhealthy options do, so their price went up to take advantage of the people trying to eat healthier.
And then it got worse when people decided to chop them up and put them on toast and say it’s breakfast for $18
Well yeah, if you’re not substituting something out with all the extra calories, of course you’re going to gain weight.
It’s really not that complicated when it comes to eating “healthy”, and even that is a subjective term because eating *less* (fewer calories) is all anyone needs to do (for the most part) to lose weight.
You’re obviously going to get more nutrients out of 1000 calories of avocados than you will out of 1000 calories of French fries, your macronutrients will be different, and you’ll feel very different levels of fullness, but eating one over the other isn’t going to change your weight any differently. Similarly I could eat 800 calories worth of salad and I’ll likely feel much fuller than either of those things and be in a deficit by comparison and lose weight (if that’s what my body is used to).
> “Someone told me avocado was a superfood and I could eat as much as I wanted”
Sorry this comes across like you didn’t know how a calorie deficit works.
I go for the Brunswick with hot peppers, and their mustard and dill variety. I order them by the case on Amazon (doing pretty well financially compared to my childhood when I got hooked on them, but they're still a super fast lunch for days when I want to do an 8 and out instead of taking a proper lunch break.) Usually hit the pepper ones with a bit of Louisiana hot sauce to zip 'em up a bit.
What's the price you've been seeing? I used to get them for like $.50 a can.
Oh man, those do sound good. $.50 is mind boggling nowadays lol.
At my local stores they’re mostly in the $2.50 - $5 range but I’m seeing more “premium” brands that are double that. Per pound they’re as expensive as fresh wild caught salmon. Patagonia (yes, the clothing company) has their own line of canned fish now.
Ordering online definitely seems like the way to go.
There's a Basque restaurant in Reno that has french fries with a mushroom wine sauce and fried sweet breads that are so amazing. I have to go every time I'm in Reno.
Personally I got the option in between. Fresh loaf of bread from a bakery but not the fancy sourdough etc... just the normal looking loaf of bread. Tastes way better than supermarket bread.
Making good bread is labor intensive and has a short shelf life. Also diet fads and people deciding they think they have a. Gluten allergy did a number on bakeries
Come visit Maine, when here just go to the wharf and look for guys in rubber boots and overalls those are lobster men and they'll sell to you right off the boat for alot less than what you pay in the store
Clams, mussels, lobster
Clams and mussels used to be common theater food. Lobster was dirt cheap as well, as these foods aren’t highly nutritious.
Lobster used to be prison food, but was seen as being inhumane due to nutritional deficiencies.
Kale was never popular before rich white folk started eating it though. Pizza hut was the top purchaser of it in the country at one point, and they used it exclusively to decorate their buffets.
definitely shakshuka. thats like my grandmas wartime food from when the french colonized us and we had next to no ingredients. now hipsters pay $20 for a bowl of it at an average spot lmao
It used to be that if you didn’t eat meat, it was because you were too poor or didn’t know how to prepare it.
These days if you don’t eat meat, it’s because you’re vegan, vegetarian, or don’t know how to prepare it.
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related, though not necessarily for poor people, fast food has become expensive now too bruh what tf
I don't know about "taken over by rich people" part, but on the other hands, I have seen some food trucks serve Vietnamese pho or noodles, they are like goddamn restaurants on wheels.
Chicken thighs and wings
Isn't that how fried and spicy chicken came about? They were given such awful scraps they had to figure out how to make them edible?
Yes. There isn't a whole lot of meat on the wing. Buffalo wings became a way to make the cheap part palatable, then Buffalo wings became fashionable, then people invented new recipes for chicken wings. Supply and demand did its thing and now wings are one of the more expensive parts of a chicken.
Oh, I'm talking way before that. Like, the slaves had to come up with recipes.
Lobster.
My father-in-law grew up in a fishing town on Canada’s east coast. The (mainly) cod fishermen considered lobster to be a nuisance inadvertent catch, so it was sold off cheaply to local merchants. The poor kids like my father-in-law thus would take lobster sandwiches to school for lunch (lobster rolls now sell for up to $40) and the richer kids would get luncheon meats like bologna and boiled ham.
yeah but I heard when the poors were eating it back in the day, it included everything, shells and all
They used them as food on prison ships as a way to insult the prisoners more.
In the days before Independence in Massachusetts, lobster was seen as a pest. The only people that would use them regularly was the prison system. The inmates rioted on more than one occasion because they considered it cruel and unusual punishment having to eat lobster everyday.
I grew up eating the lobsters my dad caught with his little rowboat.
yep.. I love lobster but try to find some fresh in central Texas.
Cheap cuts of meat! Flank steak used to be cheap, and delicious! Tri-tip, used to be cheap. I was at Publix the other day and f-ing chuck roast was $10.33/lb.. W...T...F...
Mother fucking Ox tail
This is what I came to say. So many formerly cheap cuts cost an arm and a leg now. It's insane. There are very few cheap cuts left and frankly the few that are still cheap, are because they're genuinely poor quality or it's very difficult to make them tasty.
Oh and forget about fucking skirt steak, I can't even buy that anymore if I want to because restaurants already bought all of them! What even is this world anymore, a bitch can't even make carne asada.
Every time some recipe is like "short ribs are a cheaper cut" I'm profoundly offended at this point.
publix is the worst offender. their beef is considerably more expensive and much lower quality than Whole Foods. i refuse to buy beef from publix.
Brisket used to be cheap as well.
Oxtail
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Basically any BBQ, especially in America and even more so in the South.
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It’s less that they just *said* they were a superfood, and more that people figured out that they actually are extremely healthy to eat. It was first world countries that determined that anything that isn’t sugary is “more valuable”. Avocados can’t get you fat and addicted to eating more like other unhealthy options do, so their price went up to take advantage of the people trying to eat healthier. And then it got worse when people decided to chop them up and put them on toast and say it’s breakfast for $18
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What were you eating with those avocados?
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Well yeah, if you’re not substituting something out with all the extra calories, of course you’re going to gain weight. It’s really not that complicated when it comes to eating “healthy”, and even that is a subjective term because eating *less* (fewer calories) is all anyone needs to do (for the most part) to lose weight. You’re obviously going to get more nutrients out of 1000 calories of avocados than you will out of 1000 calories of French fries, your macronutrients will be different, and you’ll feel very different levels of fullness, but eating one over the other isn’t going to change your weight any differently. Similarly I could eat 800 calories worth of salad and I’ll likely feel much fuller than either of those things and be in a deficit by comparison and lose weight (if that’s what my body is used to).
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> “Someone told me avocado was a superfood and I could eat as much as I wanted” Sorry this comes across like you didn’t know how a calorie deficit works.
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Flank steak.
Brisket
Sardines. We are far from the days when Biggie rapped about being poor growing up eating them for dinner.
Wait till the people of Decapod 10 come to earth.
The ones I like are like $2 a can now. It's nuts!
$2?? Haven’t seen that price in 10 years unless you get the sus Baltic ones in water lol
I go for the Brunswick with hot peppers, and their mustard and dill variety. I order them by the case on Amazon (doing pretty well financially compared to my childhood when I got hooked on them, but they're still a super fast lunch for days when I want to do an 8 and out instead of taking a proper lunch break.) Usually hit the pepper ones with a bit of Louisiana hot sauce to zip 'em up a bit. What's the price you've been seeing? I used to get them for like $.50 a can.
Oh man, those do sound good. $.50 is mind boggling nowadays lol. At my local stores they’re mostly in the $2.50 - $5 range but I’m seeing more “premium” brands that are double that. Per pound they’re as expensive as fresh wild caught salmon. Patagonia (yes, the clothing company) has their own line of canned fish now. Ordering online definitely seems like the way to go.
Sweet breads
You think you're ordering a cinnamon roll or french toast and the next thing you know you're looking at a plate of fried pancreas.
Most sweetbreads are actually veal thymus. Cow pancreas is usually called "stomach sweetbreads"
So tasty! People get grossed out but they are so good.
There's a Basque restaurant in Reno that has french fries with a mushroom wine sauce and fried sweet breads that are so amazing. I have to go every time I'm in Reno.
Bread. I don't remember when a loaf of crusty bread for so expensive. It's not supposed to be SO expensive
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the closest fresh bread to me is at whole foods and a loaf of sourdough is almost $8 🥲
That Mark Bittman no-knead recipe makes homemade bread almost too easy.
Personally I got the option in between. Fresh loaf of bread from a bakery but not the fancy sourdough etc... just the normal looking loaf of bread. Tastes way better than supermarket bread.
Making good bread is labor intensive and has a short shelf life. Also diet fads and people deciding they think they have a. Gluten allergy did a number on bakeries
Lobster.
Chicken wings. So expensive now.
Quinoa
The impact of this one really saddens me
Lobster, dude. It was basically the hot dogs of the sea, now you need a trust fund just to look at one.
Come visit Maine, when here just go to the wharf and look for guys in rubber boots and overalls those are lobster men and they'll sell to you right off the boat for alot less than what you pay in the store
I think the cost of the 2000 mile round trip might offset any cost saving attained from buying from a booted gentleman on the beach.
Depends on how many you eat in one sitting.
They used to feed it to prisoners for a while there.
Clams, mussels, lobster Clams and mussels used to be common theater food. Lobster was dirt cheap as well, as these foods aren’t highly nutritious. Lobster used to be prison food, but was seen as being inhumane due to nutritional deficiencies.
Beef marrow
Lobster
Candy bars. $2.50 for a chocolate bar is ludicrous.
That’s AFU
Lobster was originally a poor people food.
Lobster
Lobsters
Ramen
Nah cheap ramen and expensive ramen have existed side-by-side for a long time. Both have their place.
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Kale was never popular before rich white folk started eating it though. Pizza hut was the top purchaser of it in the country at one point, and they used it exclusively to decorate their buffets.
That is a fun fact
It is kind of cool looking.
Lobster
Taco bell and mc donalds
chicken wings
Feijoada. It was originally made by slaves in Brazil, using whatever they could get their hands on and whatever the higher social castes didn't want.
Sushi started as a way to preserve fish in Japan but now it's a high-end dining experience around the world.
Gourmet Mac and cheese
Pb and j
Skirt steak
Split grain soup. It was made of the broken rice grains that rich people refuse to buy.
yorkishire pudding
Chicken thighs
All of them? Lobster, wings, fajitas, BBQ. Fried Chicken is getting up there.
Black coffee
Quinoa
Chicken wings
Lobster.
Lobsters. They used to be just a cheap thing for the poor.
Lobster. They used to be so plentiful that they were food for the poor. But thats changed after we wiped most of em out.
Spam
Tinned (can) fish. Some is still cheap, but a lot of it is expensive, with fancy packaging
The humble pizza
Skirt steak.
definitely shakshuka. thats like my grandmas wartime food from when the french colonized us and we had next to no ingredients. now hipsters pay $20 for a bowl of it at an average spot lmao
Lobster
These days, probably just groceries.
Salmon- used to be cat food 100 years ago.
Just a goddamn hamburger.
Lobster
Lobster, caviar, monkfish, clams, cod
The 'nasty bits', the stuff that used to get thrown away, liver, kidneys, hearts, intestines, etc.
At this point, everything.
Chicken wings
All of it.
Squid. Tripe.
Lobster, used to be peasant prisoner food
Lobsters originally used as prison food they were overfished and has since became a "rich" meal
Noodles. Anything noodle based can be dressed up to convince someone noodles are worth more than a few boxes and the water it takes to boil them
Water. Its all we had growing up sometimes.!
Oysters.
Oysters
"taken over"? Do people actually walk around thinking a type of meal is their economic class's property?
Pizza
Lobster always for wealthy people. https://tastecooking.com/lobster-become-food-rich-people/
It used to be that if you didn’t eat meat, it was because you were too poor or didn’t know how to prepare it. These days if you don’t eat meat, it’s because you’re vegan, vegetarian, or don’t know how to prepare it.
Avocados