Men are becoming less educated and veering to the right. Women are more universally exercising their independence and right to choose to not date down. Theyāre becoming more educated and lean slightly to the left politically. Some men welcome this and do ok. Others feel like they can whine and abuse their way to a solution.
This is the real answer. Getting people to fight over things that don't matter so the government can continue to steal money out of our paychecks to fund genocide around the world.
Terminally online boys and girls are being increasingly taken advantage of by online misogynists and misandrists alike because all their exposure to the opposite sex is viewed through a āus vs themā mentality.
To some degree I believe there will always be an "Us vs Them" mentality with mankind.
Discrimination in all its forms is likely here to stay whether it is race, gender, nationality, sexual orientation, economic class, educational level, level of attractiveness, intelligence.
{Comparing and competing is part of human nature.}
There seems to be a need for some people *to feel they are better* than others and *entitled to have more* out of life.
We laud the idea of equality. However, the real goal is *having an equal opportunity* at becoming "special".
Most people want *the VIP treatment*, stay in 5-star resorts, fly first class and avoid standing in line with the masses.
(Being "woke" is often defined as any attempt to push for diversity, inclusion, and equality in mainstream society.)
Who benefits the most from discrimination and inequality?
Those who want to keep the status quo.
(People who are in power are typically *against* inviting or accepting *change*.)
Throughout history *just about every group* has had to fight for and sometimes die in order to *get a seat at the table and a slice of the pie*. The patriots fought the British in the U.S., women marched to vote, black and other minorities also marched and protested to get civil rights, LGBT community has had to protest to be treated like equals.
As one old adage goes: "Freedom isn't free." People will continue to fight their rights and equal treatment.
Without a doubt the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade has increased a gender war mindset.
Anytime someone is *forced to carry to term* a child they don't want there is going to be some resistance.
This is especially true in the immediate aftermath of overturning a law that had been around for 50 years.
Social media. It's literally a dumping place for irrational hatred.
And the more hateful the content is , the more engagement it receives. And the more people are polarised. The cycle continues.
This feels like rich people suddenly realizing during the submarine fiasco that wow poor people really donāt like them. This has *always* been going on, men just didnāt notice because they didnāt have to.
> This hasĀ *always*Ā been going on, men just didnāt notice because they didnāt have to.
A lot of these convos probably happened in more private settings, not someone posting publicly online where everyone can see it and get everyone riled up in the process.
The belief that women can only be truly happy in a thoroughly feminized society, for example. The belief that traditionally understood masculinity is either morally wrong or something akin to a social illness that ought to be treated.
Names, links, something. Unless itās just someone you know personally saying this, which is fine but doesnāt exactly constitute a āculture war.ā
Feminism itself isn't a con. The con is the mediatization of feminist ideas, the induced hostility between two parties, and a distraction disguised as moral righteousness.
Ah yes women were much better off when they could not have their own credit cards or bank accounts, were limited to a handful of low-paid professions, and it was legal for their husbands to beat and rape them. Those were the days!
You do know survival bias is a very strong factor? Also, shame lead to people suffering in silence rather than actually seeking help. The world was never better than it is today, it just worked for different groups of people than it may now.
You mean back when mental illness was so heavily stigmatized that it was desperately hidden behind closed doors? When suicide deaths were covered up and disguised as āaccidentsā so the family wouldnāt be shamed? When people suffering from
any sort of mental illness or disability were quietly sent away to an institution to be forgotten about?
Itās a myth that things were somehow much better in the past.
I don't think thats entirely true, sure some things are better now, but a lot was better then also. Things were more affordable, there was definitely less mental illness, people were less obese. There was no internet.
There wasnāt less mental illness though, it was just hidden away and not discussed. People suffered in silence or were sent away to institutions, and suicides were covered up as āaccidents.ā
I do a lot of genealogical research and looking through coroners records from the 1890s, 1900s, 1910s, is morbidly fascinating. There are a LOT of suicides, murders, deaths from attempted abortions, neglected or abused babies dying, etc. I promise you that things really werenāt that wonderful back then.
Here is a real-world analogy that might help you better understand. Over the past 100 years, the amount of left-handed people has increased by over 450%. Not because there was suddenly more left-handed people being born after the 1920's, but because we stopped punishing people for being left-handed and forcing them to use their right hand. There have always been the same amount of people born left-handed, they just had to hide it.
The same scenario is happening with mental illness. It's not that more people are suddenly becoming mentally ill, it's just that we stopped committing and executing people for it.
This you?
> Their identity is their problem, not mine, not society's
Surely you won't mind if I misgender you.
Can't believe you took the bait. Amazing!
Didn't need to assume anything because you said that a person's pronouns - as in gendering someone - doesn't matter to you and shouldn't matter to society. (also in another comment elsewhere you said you were man)
Why does it matter if I call you a girl/her/she/woman if that's what you believe?
Just pointing your hypocrisy. Think about this and have a better day.
I guess I don't see where I'm being hypocritical. I'm an adult male. So I'm a man.
I don't have an identity and I'm still a man. Therefore an identity doesn't have anything to do with being a man or woman.
Sure didn't seem to like when I called you a girl though.
And yeah, your gender is absolutely apart of your identity like it or not...the fact that you're proudly declaring you're a man kinda proves it.
Anyways...enjoy your time shit talking in the LGBTQ+ subs to prove your manliness I guess.
online people doing online things online.
Still not enough,normal people are still loosing we need reinforcement
Angry content gets more upvotes than chill content š¤·š¼āāļø
We are polarized in *EVERY* dimension. People just have a platform now to air their grievances.
Men are becoming less educated and veering to the right. Women are more universally exercising their independence and right to choose to not date down. Theyāre becoming more educated and lean slightly to the left politically. Some men welcome this and do ok. Others feel like they can whine and abuse their way to a solution.
People need an "other", and when you go looking for monsters you'll inevitably create a few along the way.
The US isn't South Korea. There are liberal men and conservative women, and there's still childbirth.
I think when US invade wrong country in 2001 that started āThe Fallā and when Harambe died āeverything went to the shitā
To take focus off the other dodgy shit the government it up to
This is the real answer. Getting people to fight over things that don't matter so the government can continue to steal money out of our paychecks to fund genocide around the world.
Terminally online boys and girls are being increasingly taken advantage of by online misogynists and misandrists alike because all their exposure to the opposite sex is viewed through a āus vs themā mentality.
YouTube shorts and Facebook reels
To some degree I believe there will always be an "Us vs Them" mentality with mankind. Discrimination in all its forms is likely here to stay whether it is race, gender, nationality, sexual orientation, economic class, educational level, level of attractiveness, intelligence. {Comparing and competing is part of human nature.} There seems to be a need for some people *to feel they are better* than others and *entitled to have more* out of life. We laud the idea of equality. However, the real goal is *having an equal opportunity* at becoming "special". Most people want *the VIP treatment*, stay in 5-star resorts, fly first class and avoid standing in line with the masses. (Being "woke" is often defined as any attempt to push for diversity, inclusion, and equality in mainstream society.) Who benefits the most from discrimination and inequality? Those who want to keep the status quo. (People who are in power are typically *against* inviting or accepting *change*.) Throughout history *just about every group* has had to fight for and sometimes die in order to *get a seat at the table and a slice of the pie*. The patriots fought the British in the U.S., women marched to vote, black and other minorities also marched and protested to get civil rights, LGBT community has had to protest to be treated like equals. As one old adage goes: "Freedom isn't free." People will continue to fight their rights and equal treatment. Without a doubt the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade has increased a gender war mindset. Anytime someone is *forced to carry to term* a child they don't want there is going to be some resistance. This is especially true in the immediate aftermath of overturning a law that had been around for 50 years.
Broken culture and wokeness causing brokeness
There is none...
People pass too much time in social media and too little in the real world
Social media. It's literally a dumping place for irrational hatred. And the more hateful the content is , the more engagement it receives. And the more people are polarised. The cycle continues.
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This feels like rich people suddenly realizing during the submarine fiasco that wow poor people really donāt like them. This has *always* been going on, men just didnāt notice because they didnāt have to.
> This hasĀ *always*Ā been going on, men just didnāt notice because they didnāt have to. A lot of these convos probably happened in more private settings, not someone posting publicly online where everyone can see it and get everyone riled up in the process.
The culture war of the last decade has definitely not "always been going on", what are you even talking about.
Which specific things do you believe are new?
The belief that women can only be truly happy in a thoroughly feminized society, for example. The belief that traditionally understood masculinity is either morally wrong or something akin to a social illness that ought to be treated.
Who is actually saying this? I mean specifically, not just āpeople onlineā.
You want names, zip codes or what?
Names, links, something. Unless itās just someone you know personally saying this, which is fine but doesnāt exactly constitute a āculture war.ā
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Feminism itself isn't a con. The con is the mediatization of feminist ideas, the induced hostility between two parties, and a distraction disguised as moral righteousness.
I agree with the one wage being able to support a household part, but itās not inaccurate to say that there wasnāt equal opportunity.
Ah yes women were much better off when they could not have their own credit cards or bank accounts, were limited to a handful of low-paid professions, and it was legal for their husbands to beat and rape them. Those were the days!
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You do know survival bias is a very strong factor? Also, shame lead to people suffering in silence rather than actually seeking help. The world was never better than it is today, it just worked for different groups of people than it may now.
I don't think that's true. I am pretty sure the world was much better 25 years ago. well the western world (US / Europe etc) was in far better shape.
You mean back when mental illness was so heavily stigmatized that it was desperately hidden behind closed doors? When suicide deaths were covered up and disguised as āaccidentsā so the family wouldnāt be shamed? When people suffering from any sort of mental illness or disability were quietly sent away to an institution to be forgotten about? Itās a myth that things were somehow much better in the past.
I don't think thats entirely true, sure some things are better now, but a lot was better then also. Things were more affordable, there was definitely less mental illness, people were less obese. There was no internet.
There wasnāt less mental illness though, it was just hidden away and not discussed. People suffered in silence or were sent away to institutions, and suicides were covered up as āaccidents.ā I do a lot of genealogical research and looking through coroners records from the 1890s, 1900s, 1910s, is morbidly fascinating. There are a LOT of suicides, murders, deaths from attempted abortions, neglected or abused babies dying, etc. I promise you that things really werenāt that wonderful back then.
Here is a real-world analogy that might help you better understand. Over the past 100 years, the amount of left-handed people has increased by over 450%. Not because there was suddenly more left-handed people being born after the 1920's, but because we stopped punishing people for being left-handed and forcing them to use their right hand. There have always been the same amount of people born left-handed, they just had to hide it. The same scenario is happening with mental illness. It's not that more people are suddenly becoming mentally ill, it's just that we stopped committing and executing people for it.
Bullseye !
This !... Get ready for the hate.
I know the answer but it requires some concentration.
Probably all this pronoun and identity stuff nobody asked for
Except for the people asking for them... š¤¦āāļøš¤¦āāļø
Their identity is their problem, not mine, not society's
Alrighty then girl.
Why are you calling me a girl? I didn't tell you I was a female. Are you using a girl as an insult?
This you? > Their identity is their problem, not mine, not society's Surely you won't mind if I misgender you. Can't believe you took the bait. Amazing!
What makes you think I surely wouldn't mind? You seem to be assuming a lot of things about me with no information.
Didn't need to assume anything because you said that a person's pronouns - as in gendering someone - doesn't matter to you and shouldn't matter to society. (also in another comment elsewhere you said you were man) Why does it matter if I call you a girl/her/she/woman if that's what you believe? Just pointing your hypocrisy. Think about this and have a better day.
I guess I don't see where I'm being hypocritical. I'm an adult male. So I'm a man. I don't have an identity and I'm still a man. Therefore an identity doesn't have anything to do with being a man or woman.
Sure didn't seem to like when I called you a girl though. And yeah, your gender is absolutely apart of your identity like it or not...the fact that you're proudly declaring you're a man kinda proves it. Anyways...enjoy your time shit talking in the LGBTQ+ subs to prove your manliness I guess.