When the actors whisper the whole movie and you have to crank the volume to hear what's being said - but the soundtrack or some other misc noise starts blaring at a higher volume directly after
I basically had to watch Stranger Things up in my attic with the windows and doors closed. I was worried the neighbors would think something was wrong or be annoyed if I watched it downstairs in my single family home. It was ridiculous.
I thought the reason that I couldnt hear them was cuz English isnt my native language. Good to know Im not the only one who watches shows and movies with subtitles.
Love triangles out of no where in a second or third season to "spice things up" because studio writers are hacks and their idea of relationship drama is "potential infidelity" at all times. It's the most tired trope on the goddamn planet and the second I see it rear its head I dip right the hell out.
And this was after Evangeline Lilly said she'd only do the role* if there wasn't a love triangle!
*which one could argue was needed cause there are literally no women in the Hobbit
The writers were like "but.... there's a woman, so there has to be a romance. Having men and women in a movie together and not having them hook up would be insane. I mean, why even make the movie if they're not going to fuck?"
When couples in a movie/show have a fight and one of them instantly goes to a friend and end up kissing her/him after talking for 5 minutes.
I cringe so hard i turn it off and never watch it again.
This pissed me off so much in Manifest. Girl is desperate to get back her ex-fiance, he finally breaks up with his wife to get back with her and she's like "nah, it's not fair to your wife, let me fuck this other dude I just met through a calling and be pissed at you for being jealous." Michaela was the worst and everyone acted as if she were a saint the entire time.
Shows where kids in high school talk like they are 30 years olds who have done everything, been everywhere, know it all and use a ridiculously flowery and extensive vocabulary in every conversation. Like, have any of these writers ever been to high school? Literally no one talks like that. Even worse is when, in addition to this, all the adults talk normal or are just plain stupid, like so weird parallel universe.
I maintain that Superbad contains the best, and possibly only, accurate portrayal of high schoolers.
Mean Girls is a close second, but all the characters seem intentionally exaggerated for comedic effect.
How about that scene from Taken 2 or 3, where it takes Liam Neeson a million cuts to jump a fence...in 15 seconds or whatever it was
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And when asked who he looked up to, he said George Lucas, cos Lucas could make people look like they were doing all these amazing stunts but without all the risk.
But what will kill John Wick for you is how many dudes approach him with guns drawn and just walk their muzzles like straight into his chest but never fire. Its honestly hilarious when you really start looking for it.
It’s pretty much impossible to have a realistic action movie where the main character fights more than one bad guy because realistically they wouldn’t be able to kill 2 trained dudes at the same time. With guns, fists, whatever. Humans are generally not able to win fights they are outnumbered in unless they had some overwhelming advantage. So in every movie you’ll notice bag guys standing around or not attacking because theres not way for them to move naturally and still make it believable that the hero is winning.
I'd really like to see a scene where this happens and then the person attempting to explain goes "Well, they couldn't take three seconds to hear me out; I guess they're not the kind of person I want to have a relationship with after all." And then they shrug and go on to have a life with someone else.
One movie did this perfectly.
In ‚war of the worlds‘ was a ‚No time to explain‘ scene which was pretty stupid.
In scary movie 4 the very same scene happens and someone just screams ‚the aliens are attacking‘ which basically sums up everything perfectly.
Yes. I love that film because of the way his wife does nothing stupid, handles the situation with intelligence and resolve, does all the right things and winds up dead. It's far more of a gut punch that way.
Or when they spend 5 minutes repeating "Wait. I can explain. Please listen to me. I can explain. Please let me explain.", but never shout the two-word explanation.
"I will tell you something important. I found out the murderer's secret. The secret they didn't want anyone to know. It's important that I tell you, because it changes everything." *soulful pause* "And you are the only one who can act upon this information. The information that I am about to give you. Which is why it is important that you listen to me when I tell you - OH SHIT I AM SHOT AND KILLED."
“I know what the logical, quick resolution to this problem would be but let me take 22-30 minutes to stir up unnecessary drama for the sake of “plot” by disingenuously misinterpreting a single thing you said that will inevitably make us expose our flaws and attempt to fix them and grow closer together.”
Shows that AVERT this get my massive respect as well. Like, in Invincible, there was a conversation in the last episode where Cecil was genuinely trying to make things right, and the person he was doing it for was frustrated and it looked like she was going to start drama, but she took a breath and said "No, I'm sorry, this is all very kind." She obviously had the right to be emotional at the time but the show didn't infantilize the viewer.
Invincible had it weirdly in the other direction where the love interest had all the important information to avoid a misunderstanding and it still caused relationship drama.
The worst thing is that in the comics Amber is nothing like that. She and Mark date for like a year, then break up on such good terms that Mark stays friends with her. When someone eventually hurts her, he damn near kills them.
This is why I love Ted Lasso so much. Characters regularly accept their flaws, own up to them, and apologize. There’s very little contrived drama. It’s just a grab bag of humans growing together
I absolutely cannot stand when lack of communication is used as a plot device, like instead of asking one question they just dramatically storm off and make rediculous assumptions. People don't (usually) behave like that.
"wait, I can explain"
"explain then."
"wow that really was an incredible misunderstanding, I'm glad we're both functional human beings able to communicate with one another"
*roll credits*
Hammond made two lethal mistakes: 1) hiring the lowest bidder to design the automation system, and 2) NOT hiring someone else to check the plans and the system for idiocy or fuckery.
The movie doesn't go into it as much but the book does. Basically John Hammon is a piece of shit who went cheep on everything and knowingly put the adults and his grandchildren in danger.
They are literally there because the insurance company won't sign off on the park because it keeps having accidents and the Hammon brings in experts to convince they it is safe.
The movie uses the same plot but avoids the political tones from the book. Which can be summarize as corporations but profits before people.
TLDR: Giving more money to Jimmy Neutron is not gonna make his inventions safer, because he does not account for safety.
In the book, it is more that he prevented the IT guy from working correctly by hiding information ("you need to put a button there, but we won't tell you what the panel is supposed to be about, which means you cannot counsel us appropriate solutions, nor understand what you are doing"). Then screwed him with the contract because he is an AH.
Similarly, the ranger is not complaining about Hammond not wanting to pay for a rocket launcher. He is complaining about Hammond refusing the concept of having to kill the precious animals and dragging his feet on lethal means.
The geneticist is convinced that his failsafe are sufficient and that he controls the situation, even if he would have liked slower dinosaurs.
The worst is the engineer. He is convinced the park is safe and keep making stupid errors because he did not thought about potential issues (goes into a dark place without a lamp and put his shoe to prevent the door to open so he has some light, forget that restarting the system means that all subsystems have to be manually restarted to avoid immediately retriggering the original error,...)
The kids would have been saved way earlier if somebody bothered to investigate what was interesting the T-Rex so much.
WTF are they bringing velociraptors before the park is working smoothly?
One of my favorite video series on YouTube is "pitch meetings" with Ryan George. They are sketches what must have happened when people suggested certain movies. One line that is almost always included is
"why would anyone do that?"
"So the movie can happen"
"Fair enough"
I enjoy Umbrella Academy, I really do, and I get that they're a dysfunctional family but nobody tells each other important pieces of information when they very easily could. A lot of what happens in the show is everyone trying to get to the end of the plot on their own and it's tiring to watch because it feels like messy writing. Nobody seems to take catastrophic events seriously.
Family can be a fucking nightmare, I know, but if it's already the 2nd or 3rd time the world is ending or a great number of people are dying, can't they at least let each other know about important findings and info. A lot of issues in the show would have been resolved that way and I wouldn't have to watch two characters spend an entire episode doing random things to come to the same conclusion we saw another few characters come to earlier already.
Its def frustrating when the entire conflict of the show is just "characters not talking to each other."
When that's genuine and authentic, it's some really great drama.
But 90% of the time it's just a plot device. And I feel you, it does ruin shows.
It frustrates me to no end. Was watching Locke & Key and literally every stupid thing that the characters could do was done. I couldnt even finish season 1. Cool premise but I hate when people are fucking idiots for the sake of the plot. All it does is piss me off and I tune out.
Reminds me what I heard about Firefly, arguably one of the best SciFi dramas at the time: The Fox suits wanted (required?) the writers to "break up" Wash and Zoe, when I found their relationship refreshing and smart.
And yet not one of those execs EVER wrote or ran a hit show! How foolishly, stupid, and arrogant is that?
Their relationship was a key part of the show. Their love for each other raised the stakes when the other was in trouble.
And yeh, it was refreshing that they were already together at the start and just a thing. Just like real life you met them and they were already together and you get to see why they stay together.
That’s something a lot of Hollywood writers don’t get, life or death isn’t the only stakes. If you make a character really truly care about something, the prospect of losing it can raise the stakes as much or more than potentially dying (because most characters you know won’t die)
Exactly, the characters basically cant die but that doesnt mean their emotional side cant be fucked up or for there to be repercussion going forward. We see this happening a lot throughout firefly. Janes betrayal and being found out for example. No one died but there was a dynamic shift going forward as a result of that.
As a kid, I loved TNG because it had cool space stuff. As an adult, I love TNG because everyone is a highly competent professional who does their job with minimal interpersonal drama. That’s the real fantasy.
Oh man, you could tell The Flash was scuffed a few episodes in. I watched a couple of [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Xh7_XvnFI) [essays](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrHqvUXyqJc) about this and I'm sure there are several more if you care to look.
Despite this, I'm a stubborn fellow and I only quit by Season 4, when I could no longer bear the writers having no clear grasp of Barry's inherent speed and all the cop-out reasoning to force the plot into specific directions (all explained through blatant exposition, I might add!).
Same the show went from badass legal showdowns to everyone getting mad at everyone for 2 seconds and then making up only to do it again the next episode
“God damn it Louis this is why I never let you get involved, you screw everything up! We’re done!”
*12 seconds later”
“Louis god damn Litt is the best attorney this city has ever seen and if you’ve got a problem with that, you’ve got a problem with me!”
Harvey may have suffered from delusions.
If the movie is too dark. Not graphic, just literally dark. I lose all sense of intensity in dark scenes and I'm not straining my damn eyes trying to figure out what the hell is going on.
Dude I thought that was just me!!! Especially lately!!! Whether I’m watching on my TV or phone, some scenes are dark AS FUCK! And I try turning up my brightness or closing my blinds but I still can’t see shit!!!
Exactly, there are ways to make the movie scene at night with actual visibility. But I feel today it's used to cover up maybe low budget props or shitty acting. Makes it feel extra cheap to me.
In that same vein - when they pan too fast through those 360 shots. I think it was Thor I was watching recently where I was like - the scenery is so beautiful, just slow down and let me take it in a bit!
Bad editing would be a big one. A lot of modern horror movies can't help but edit the movies like they're trailers, with added noises to scare the audience because they are afraid the script alone isn't enough to keep people watching.
I remember this is where the first transformers movie lost me. When the transformers are fighting at the end, it's all a big, jumbled mess of metal and I can barely tell what's going on or who is who.
Or when professionals talk to each others and explain irl no brainers to the audience. Often used in medical shows. The senior doctor is like "Have you checked if it's appendicitis? That's when the appendix has an inflammation. It causes..." "...severe belly pain and diarrhea. Great call!" (That's an exaggeration of course) and I'm always like "Yeah, that's very natural now. It kinda worries me that [character] didn't learn that in uni."
This killed me on The Big Bang Theory when Sheldon had a mental block because he couldn't wrap his mind about particle wave duality.
I can, *and I'm a geologist I brought colored pencils to my 4th year finals and I lick rocks*.
As a nerd who grew up on video games and D&D, the show just felt like no one on the staff knew what a nerd was.
Like they got *fundamental* mechanics of World of Warcraft incorrect, and this was during the height of that game when it was so famous it had entered pop culture and not *one* person on the writing staff thought to ask,
"Can you actually have sex in that game?" (no, you can't, outside of cybersex which isn't game specific).
On top of misrepresenting how raids work.
It *seems* stupidly esoteric, and probably not the best example, but it's the one that stuck in my head.
There are thousands of similar situations where even basic understanding of nerd culture, or science, would have caught these mistakes.
It doesn't affect the plot, but it goes to show that it's not really about nerds, it's about what non-nerds think nerds are, and while it's nowhere near as foul as a minstrel show, it's the same concept.
Big Bang Theory is basically just every other American sitcom but with nerdy and science-y phrases thrown in to make dumb people feel smarter because they're laughing along with "intellectuals".
Except with my best friend, Captain Hardly, who we both went swimming with last year in the Mediterranean after he saved those turtles from that evil scuba diver you sent during your on/off rehab session with Dr Munroe, who is your father, of course.
Yes! When one character tells another character who is supposed to know about their life already bc they’re a best friend or something. And the main character says something like
“you know when my mom died in a car accident when I was 8…and my brother and I were left to fend for ourselves since our dad was never in the picture… that’s when I knew I would never have a successful relationship. And now I’m repeating the pattern! this divorce from Randy has got me questioning my reality lately, dealing with him and where our 4 kids will live has been a total nightmare.”
“Hello, Austin. I’m Basil Exposition with British Intelligence. We have just received word that Dr. Evil is planning a trap for you tonight at the Electric Psychedelic Pussycat Swinger’s Club here in swinging London.”
Sometimes poor directing or editing will sabotage the work of a normally decent actor as well. It's uncomfortable watching a competent performer trying to do their job when clearly everything is working to make it suck as much as possible.
That said, someone turning in a genuinely compelling performance in the middle of an absolute flaming shitshow is its own kind of wonderful.
Hacking scenes. I’m no hacker but any IT person has an idea of how those things work.
Sometimes it’s ok if you can tell that the writers did some research.
When the main conflict is due to misunderstanding between the characters which they could've just resolved by talking to each other. It happens a lot in romance/drama movies and annoys the shit out of me. Especially when it's super petty misunderstandings that lead to huge dramatic conflict.
Bad writing. Writing a plot that is entirely dependent on the characters making poor decisions and avoiding obvious solutions, getting challenged not by anything external, just by their own stupidity.
It's boring as hell to watch and it takes any interest I had in characters and zeroes it out.
Long before that, Sansa just decided not to tell Jon that she has the Knights of the Vale coming to help in the Battle of the Bastards. He almost died TWICE and the only reason was because "hurr de durr drama".
Lack of closed captioning or if the captioning is very laggy or grossly misspelling words.
I'm hard of hearing and refuse to jack up the volume just to hear it. And sometimes some movies are very dim/dark so lip reading isn't always an option.
!!! it's been annoying seeing Netflix remove perfectly good captioning in shows. watching community and the good place I saw that they removed any captions whenever a character spoke a language that wasn't English. was super annoying considering this ruined a good joke/punchline 90% of the time.
For some reason Netflix often removes translations when you have subs on. If someone is saying something you think should be translated, but it isn’t, try turning subs off and it may actually show the translation. Backward, I know, but you’d be surprised how often it happens.
Forced romance or unnecessary sex scenes. I will admit the Halo show wasn’t great, but it had just enough to keep me interested. And then that sex scene happened and I lost all hope in the show being redeemable.
The German version of the Office (Stromberg) had to be sued before they put in a disclaimer in the credits that is was based in Ricky Gervais original show.
I love laugh tracks when I learned English. I can't really explain it except it really helps to understand the 'sensibilities' of the language of what's funny or why it should be funny.
"How could you eat my last slice of cake?"
"Dude, there are zombies literally outside the car right now, trying to break in. We are in the middle of a desperate fight for our lives and if you don't start shooting, we're all gonna die."
"My cake, Dave. How could you eat my cake?"
"Now really is not the time!!!"
Badly written women at both ends of the scale.
Having a woman that is able to throw around a henchman that is 3 times her weight and half again her size is exactly as bad as having her be utterly helpless in the face of any threat.
It smacks of cowardice to not have any weakness in a women character and smack of stupidity to have no strength as well.
I love the example of Ellen Ripley. She is scared and scarred. She is brave in the face of fear, but asks for help when she sees others can help and instruct her to improve. She takes the defeats and learns from it to do better
She wasn't perfect at the start, she grew to her role. I don't get why that is so hard to do now
If two characters who haven't seen each other since childhood establish that they were close friends by singing or chanting something. I either fast forward or shut it off.
Lazy, cheap humor. And I mean lazy: predictable set-ups and juvenile punchlines.
I watched the first few minutes of the first episode of *Two Broke Girls*. It felt like it was written by two 14-year-old boys. I wanted to muddle through because of Kat Dennings...but no, couldn't do it.
Same for the one episode of *Two and a Half Men.* Good God, both the writing and the performances were phoned in.
They did a reboot of *The Odd Couple* with Mathew Perry and Lt . Dangle and I seriously felt like I was on mushrooms watching the pilot. It's so, so corny and predictable, with a roaring laugh track every few seconds.
It went for 3 seasons. I just don't get it.
For me, the worst isn’t torture like Saw and Hostel. It’s the main character tied to a chair being beaten. There were about 5 torture scenes in the latest season of Stranger Things. It’s just tedious and adds nothing to the plot.
SMACK!
“Who do you work for?!!”
SMACK SMACK.
“Who do you work for?!!!”
“Your mom.”
“Well, since you won’t answer we will bring torture doctor in!”
When the actors whisper the whole movie and you have to crank the volume to hear what's being said - but the soundtrack or some other misc noise starts blaring at a higher volume directly after
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I basically had to watch Stranger Things up in my attic with the windows and doors closed. I was worried the neighbors would think something was wrong or be annoyed if I watched it downstairs in my single family home. It was ridiculous.
I usually watch everything with subtitles now because of bad sound mixes and low dialog volume in movies and TV shows, and I'm not hard of hearing.
I thought the reason that I couldnt hear them was cuz English isnt my native language. Good to know Im not the only one who watches shows and movies with subtitles.
Love triangles out of no where in a second or third season to "spice things up" because studio writers are hacks and their idea of relationship drama is "potential infidelity" at all times. It's the most tired trope on the goddamn planet and the second I see it rear its head I dip right the hell out.
Remember when they added a love triangle to the hobbit movies for no reason? What a fucking travesty.
And this was after Evangeline Lilly said she'd only do the role* if there wasn't a love triangle! *which one could argue was needed cause there are literally no women in the Hobbit
The writers were like "but.... there's a woman, so there has to be a romance. Having men and women in a movie together and not having them hook up would be insane. I mean, why even make the movie if they're not going to fuck?"
Could you imagine a man and a woman being associates or even friends without anything more?! Insanity!! /s
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When couples in a movie/show have a fight and one of them instantly goes to a friend and end up kissing her/him after talking for 5 minutes. I cringe so hard i turn it off and never watch it again.
This pissed me off so much in Manifest. Girl is desperate to get back her ex-fiance, he finally breaks up with his wife to get back with her and she's like "nah, it's not fair to your wife, let me fuck this other dude I just met through a calling and be pissed at you for being jealous." Michaela was the worst and everyone acted as if she were a saint the entire time.
MJ in spider-man 3 lol.
Shows where kids in high school talk like they are 30 years olds who have done everything, been everywhere, know it all and use a ridiculously flowery and extensive vocabulary in every conversation. Like, have any of these writers ever been to high school? Literally no one talks like that. Even worse is when, in addition to this, all the adults talk normal or are just plain stupid, like so weird parallel universe.
Also don't forget that every kid in high school is from a rich family and their drama is whether they get into Stanford or have to settle for Harvard
Except for the one "poor kid" in the group, usually shown with ill-fitting/worn clothes.
But they live in an Manhattan loft bigger than your house
And glasses.
I maintain that Superbad contains the best, and possibly only, accurate portrayal of high schoolers. Mean Girls is a close second, but all the characters seem intentionally exaggerated for comedic effect.
Fight scenes with a million visual cuts
How about that scene from Taken 2 or 3, where it takes Liam Neeson a million cuts to jump a fence...in 15 seconds or whatever it was Edit: Thanks for the silver stranger!
[Liam Neeson jumping over a fence,](https://youtu.be/by4UZ-79MK4) for anyone who’s interested. Yikes.
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I always somehow manage to forget just how wildly impressive Jackie Chan is. Thanks for the reminder.
And when asked who he looked up to, he said George Lucas, cos Lucas could make people look like they were doing all these amazing stunts but without all the risk.
Jackie Chan even had to found his own insurance because no one wanted to insure his stunt team.
That was actually worse than I anticipated. Glad I watched.
right. gives me motion sickness. contrast the absolutely masterful work in john wick. long cuts, realistic use of weapons (mostly), 100% skill
But what will kill John Wick for you is how many dudes approach him with guns drawn and just walk their muzzles like straight into his chest but never fire. Its honestly hilarious when you really start looking for it.
It’s pretty much impossible to have a realistic action movie where the main character fights more than one bad guy because realistically they wouldn’t be able to kill 2 trained dudes at the same time. With guns, fists, whatever. Humans are generally not able to win fights they are outnumbered in unless they had some overwhelming advantage. So in every movie you’ll notice bag guys standing around or not attacking because theres not way for them to move naturally and still make it believable that the hero is winning.
Those awfuly choreographed fights with tons of cuts. It just makes me dizzy. That's why old Jackie Chan movies are gold.
Shows where a single polite conversation could fix everything.
"Wait! I can explain!" *walks out without an explanation*
I'd really like to see a scene where this happens and then the person attempting to explain goes "Well, they couldn't take three seconds to hear me out; I guess they're not the kind of person I want to have a relationship with after all." And then they shrug and go on to have a life with someone else.
One movie did this perfectly. In ‚war of the worlds‘ was a ‚No time to explain‘ scene which was pretty stupid. In scary movie 4 the very same scene happens and someone just screams ‚the aliens are attacking‘ which basically sums up everything perfectly.
Reminds me of a scene from *Buffy The Vampire Slayer*: "This is Oz. He's a werewolf. Kind of a long story." "Got bit." "...apparently not that long."
"Some aliens are trying to steal a necklace from a wizard."
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Yes. I love that film because of the way his wife does nothing stupid, handles the situation with intelligence and resolve, does all the right things and winds up dead. It's far more of a gut punch that way.
"I can explain!" "Oh I thought you were all going to shout over me, I can actually explain"
Cool cool cool.
"Kiss me!" "What?!" "I'll explain later!" "The explanation isn't the issue!"
This post ist wrinkling my brain
Ah yes, the classic “main characters withhold vital information to drive the plot” trick
All I can think of is Batman v Superman and die a little inside.
I hate this the most. The character can say why they did something but they never do. Ever.
Or when they spend 5 minutes repeating "Wait. I can explain. Please listen to me. I can explain. Please let me explain.", but never shout the two-word explanation.
"I will tell you something important. I found out the murderer's secret. The secret they didn't want anyone to know. It's important that I tell you, because it changes everything." *soulful pause* "And you are the only one who can act upon this information. The information that I am about to give you. Which is why it is important that you listen to me when I tell you - OH SHIT I AM SHOT AND KILLED."
“I know what the logical, quick resolution to this problem would be but let me take 22-30 minutes to stir up unnecessary drama for the sake of “plot” by disingenuously misinterpreting a single thing you said that will inevitably make us expose our flaws and attempt to fix them and grow closer together.”
Shows that AVERT this get my massive respect as well. Like, in Invincible, there was a conversation in the last episode where Cecil was genuinely trying to make things right, and the person he was doing it for was frustrated and it looked like she was going to start drama, but she took a breath and said "No, I'm sorry, this is all very kind." She obviously had the right to be emotional at the time but the show didn't infantilize the viewer.
Invincible had it weirdly in the other direction where the love interest had all the important information to avoid a misunderstanding and it still caused relationship drama.
The worst thing is that in the comics Amber is nothing like that. She and Mark date for like a year, then break up on such good terms that Mark stays friends with her. When someone eventually hurts her, he damn near kills them.
This is why I love Ted Lasso so much. Characters regularly accept their flaws, own up to them, and apologize. There’s very little contrived drama. It’s just a grab bag of humans growing together
>Shows where a single polite conversation could fix everything. This is pretty much the definition of a rom-com.
Annoying main character, especially if it's a kid
Kids who have a quippy, sassy retort to everything, and everyone just kind of crumbles before their wit.
Lmao the kid in Jurassic World Dominion. 'OMG YOU'RE NOT MY MOM' 'Then fuck off and get eaten by a dinosaur idgaf'
A kid who is way too precocious. In that fake way that's fake in the same way every time. Fake in the "no kid ever has been like this"
Yeah - kids who have dialogue of 30 year olds
Working really hard to set up their single dad with the right gal.
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Also, why would you make the villains sympathetic in a freaking Home Alone film!?
If I start asking the question “why would anyone behave like this ever?” and the only answer can be “because the plot demands it”.
I absolutely cannot stand when lack of communication is used as a plot device, like instead of asking one question they just dramatically storm off and make rediculous assumptions. People don't (usually) behave like that.
"wait, I can explain" "explain then." "wow that really was an incredible misunderstanding, I'm glad we're both functional human beings able to communicate with one another" *roll credits*
That's why Jurassic Park is so good. John Hammond explains a lot, and people still die
Spared no expense!\* ^Except ^where ^it ^counts, ^on ^IT ^staff ^for ^my ^fully ^automated ^park.
The realism is staggering
I’m sorry we only have 2% allocated to the budget to give you a raise. BTW look at this fucking dinosaur!!!!!
Hammond made two lethal mistakes: 1) hiring the lowest bidder to design the automation system, and 2) NOT hiring someone else to check the plans and the system for idiocy or fuckery.
I mean the instant we could see the tour vehicles were Ford Explorers, we could see where the expense was most certainly spared. Lol.
I love that meme: "We spared no expense!" "Are these Ford Explorers?" "Spared some expense!"
The movie doesn't go into it as much but the book does. Basically John Hammon is a piece of shit who went cheep on everything and knowingly put the adults and his grandchildren in danger. They are literally there because the insurance company won't sign off on the park because it keeps having accidents and the Hammon brings in experts to convince they it is safe. The movie uses the same plot but avoids the political tones from the book. Which can be summarize as corporations but profits before people.
Iirc he really was cutting corners all over the place to make the fantasy work. Even if he paid Nedry the fully automated park was a bad idea
That is, ironically, the most realistic thing about the movie.
TLDR: Giving more money to Jimmy Neutron is not gonna make his inventions safer, because he does not account for safety. In the book, it is more that he prevented the IT guy from working correctly by hiding information ("you need to put a button there, but we won't tell you what the panel is supposed to be about, which means you cannot counsel us appropriate solutions, nor understand what you are doing"). Then screwed him with the contract because he is an AH. Similarly, the ranger is not complaining about Hammond not wanting to pay for a rocket launcher. He is complaining about Hammond refusing the concept of having to kill the precious animals and dragging his feet on lethal means. The geneticist is convinced that his failsafe are sufficient and that he controls the situation, even if he would have liked slower dinosaurs. The worst is the engineer. He is convinced the park is safe and keep making stupid errors because he did not thought about potential issues (goes into a dark place without a lamp and put his shoe to prevent the door to open so he has some light, forget that restarting the system means that all subsystems have to be manually restarted to avoid immediately retriggering the original error,...) The kids would have been saved way earlier if somebody bothered to investigate what was interesting the T-Rex so much. WTF are they bringing velociraptors before the park is working smoothly?
One of my favorite video series on YouTube is "pitch meetings" with Ryan George. They are sketches what must have happened when people suggested certain movies. One line that is almost always included is "why would anyone do that?" "So the movie can happen" "Fair enough"
I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about this sir.
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Or the other flavor of that: “But why would they do that?” “Because the movie isn't over yet." “Fair enough."
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
I enjoy Umbrella Academy, I really do, and I get that they're a dysfunctional family but nobody tells each other important pieces of information when they very easily could. A lot of what happens in the show is everyone trying to get to the end of the plot on their own and it's tiring to watch because it feels like messy writing. Nobody seems to take catastrophic events seriously. Family can be a fucking nightmare, I know, but if it's already the 2nd or 3rd time the world is ending or a great number of people are dying, can't they at least let each other know about important findings and info. A lot of issues in the show would have been resolved that way and I wouldn't have to watch two characters spend an entire episode doing random things to come to the same conclusion we saw another few characters come to earlier already.
Its def frustrating when the entire conflict of the show is just "characters not talking to each other." When that's genuine and authentic, it's some really great drama. But 90% of the time it's just a plot device. And I feel you, it does ruin shows.
It frustrates me to no end. Was watching Locke & Key and literally every stupid thing that the characters could do was done. I couldnt even finish season 1. Cool premise but I hate when people are fucking idiots for the sake of the plot. All it does is piss me off and I tune out.
When they go straight to relationship drama right away when it wasn't the selling point of the show.
Me: "Wow that guy's so cool!" Hollywood: "Wouldn't it be cooler if he'd argued with his girlfriend the whole time?"
Reminds me what I heard about Firefly, arguably one of the best SciFi dramas at the time: The Fox suits wanted (required?) the writers to "break up" Wash and Zoe, when I found their relationship refreshing and smart. And yet not one of those execs EVER wrote or ran a hit show! How foolishly, stupid, and arrogant is that?
Their relationship was a key part of the show. Their love for each other raised the stakes when the other was in trouble. And yeh, it was refreshing that they were already together at the start and just a thing. Just like real life you met them and they were already together and you get to see why they stay together.
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
That’s something a lot of Hollywood writers don’t get, life or death isn’t the only stakes. If you make a character really truly care about something, the prospect of losing it can raise the stakes as much or more than potentially dying (because most characters you know won’t die)
Exactly, the characters basically cant die but that doesnt mean their emotional side cant be fucked up or for there to be repercussion going forward. We see this happening a lot throughout firefly. Janes betrayal and being found out for example. No one died but there was a dynamic shift going forward as a result of that.
OMG YOU'RE SO RIGHT. So many times I thought I was watching Sci Fi but found out I was just watching Relationships in Space.
As a kid, I loved TNG because it had cool space stuff. As an adult, I love TNG because everyone is a highly competent professional who does their job with minimal interpersonal drama. That’s the real fantasy.
No joke, as a kid, I thought that's the way adults behaved. Needless to say, I was very disappointed.
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That's usually because the sci-fi part is more expensive to create than the drama between characters so 3/4th of the time is filler for the rest.
Yep lol, it's such a cheap move to make "content".
Money heist korea turned me off when they focused on relationship of hostage with robber & another hostage getting jealous like bruh
Arrow
Any Arrow-verse show is rife with terribly written relationship drama. Will they, won't they? I wish they fucking wouldn't.
Expand that from Arrow verse to just CW
CW just sucks at writing in general
Reminds me of why I stopped watching Suits.
Why I stopped watching The Flash
Oh man, you could tell The Flash was scuffed a few episodes in. I watched a couple of [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Xh7_XvnFI) [essays](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrHqvUXyqJc) about this and I'm sure there are several more if you care to look. Despite this, I'm a stubborn fellow and I only quit by Season 4, when I could no longer bear the writers having no clear grasp of Barry's inherent speed and all the cop-out reasoning to force the plot into specific directions (all explained through blatant exposition, I might add!).
Same the show went from badass legal showdowns to everyone getting mad at everyone for 2 seconds and then making up only to do it again the next episode
“God damn it Louis this is why I never let you get involved, you screw everything up! We’re done!” *12 seconds later” “Louis god damn Litt is the best attorney this city has ever seen and if you’ve got a problem with that, you’ve got a problem with me!” Harvey may have suffered from delusions.
If the movie is too dark. Not graphic, just literally dark. I lose all sense of intensity in dark scenes and I'm not straining my damn eyes trying to figure out what the hell is going on.
I've seen about 10 percent of all DC movies recently. I've seen all of the individual films in full, just actually saw 10% of each of them.
I'm going to go ahead and guess that ~~Captain Marvel~~ Shazam accounts for the 8%.
Yeah there are a few exceptions - I think Wonder Woman 2 was not overly dark. Too bad it just sucked though
Dude I thought that was just me!!! Especially lately!!! Whether I’m watching on my TV or phone, some scenes are dark AS FUCK! And I try turning up my brightness or closing my blinds but I still can’t see shit!!!
And then it cuts to a super bright scene for 12 seconds and your eyes are bleeding. I loved Dune, but it has two or three of those
I had this same problem with the final few Harry Potters
Watching Batman on school projectors is not the move
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Exactly, there are ways to make the movie scene at night with actual visibility. But I feel today it's used to cover up maybe low budget props or shitty acting. Makes it feel extra cheap to me.
Shaky cam. I hate not being able to see the action because the cameras shaking or the cuts are too quick.
In that same vein - when they pan too fast through those 360 shots. I think it was Thor I was watching recently where I was like - the scenery is so beautiful, just slow down and let me take it in a bit!
Eternal panning. Just today I saw Unstoppable on tv (not for the first time) and confirmed (again) it's definitely not just my impression.
That crap makes me puke, literally.
Bad editing would be a big one. A lot of modern horror movies can't help but edit the movies like they're trailers, with added noises to scare the audience because they are afraid the script alone isn't enough to keep people watching.
I remember this is where the first transformers movie lost me. When the transformers are fighting at the end, it's all a big, jumbled mess of metal and I can barely tell what's going on or who is who.
Yep. If it's going to be a fun, dumb action movie, we should at least get good action, instead of a confusing CGI mess, with too many moving pieces.
If they start using dialogue to explain the plot. Basically, any unnatural conversation that would never happen in real life.
"Hey bro, how's my oldest brother doing this morning?"
"How's that leg holding up after you got injured in the Afghanistan conflict?"
"I'm still pretty messed up since our mother was murdered in an alley while walking home from work 3 months ago."
Or when professionals talk to each others and explain irl no brainers to the audience. Often used in medical shows. The senior doctor is like "Have you checked if it's appendicitis? That's when the appendix has an inflammation. It causes..." "...severe belly pain and diarrhea. Great call!" (That's an exaggeration of course) and I'm always like "Yeah, that's very natural now. It kinda worries me that [character] didn't learn that in uni."
This killed me on The Big Bang Theory when Sheldon had a mental block because he couldn't wrap his mind about particle wave duality. I can, *and I'm a geologist I brought colored pencils to my 4th year finals and I lick rocks*. As a nerd who grew up on video games and D&D, the show just felt like no one on the staff knew what a nerd was. Like they got *fundamental* mechanics of World of Warcraft incorrect, and this was during the height of that game when it was so famous it had entered pop culture and not *one* person on the writing staff thought to ask, "Can you actually have sex in that game?" (no, you can't, outside of cybersex which isn't game specific). On top of misrepresenting how raids work. It *seems* stupidly esoteric, and probably not the best example, but it's the one that stuck in my head. There are thousands of similar situations where even basic understanding of nerd culture, or science, would have caught these mistakes. It doesn't affect the plot, but it goes to show that it's not really about nerds, it's about what non-nerds think nerds are, and while it's nowhere near as foul as a minstrel show, it's the same concept.
Big Bang Theory is basically just every other American sitcom but with nerdy and science-y phrases thrown in to make dumb people feel smarter because they're laughing along with "intellectuals".
I don’t normally like to talk about it though
Except with my best friend, Captain Hardly, who we both went swimming with last year in the Mediterranean after he saved those turtles from that evil scuba diver you sent during your on/off rehab session with Dr Munroe, who is your father, of course.
Yes! When one character tells another character who is supposed to know about their life already bc they’re a best friend or something. And the main character says something like “you know when my mom died in a car accident when I was 8…and my brother and I were left to fend for ourselves since our dad was never in the picture… that’s when I knew I would never have a successful relationship. And now I’m repeating the pattern! this divorce from Randy has got me questioning my reality lately, dealing with him and where our 4 kids will live has been a total nightmare.”
"You know I don't swim in lakes every since my entire family drowned on that boat when I was 4 and I'm the only one that survived."
And then we just wait for the scene where the character needs to overcome their fear and swim in a lake!
"As you know, your father, the king..."
“Hello, Austin. I’m Basil Exposition with British Intelligence. We have just received word that Dr. Evil is planning a trap for you tonight at the Electric Psychedelic Pussycat Swinger’s Club here in swinging London.”
The **only** exception.
"As you know..."
Substantial amounts of cringey teenage drama. Looking at you Resident Evil on Netflix, couldn't even finish the first episode.
If you look up “cringey teenage drama” in the dictionary I’m pretty sure it just starts playing riverdale
Riverdale is just proof that the Archie Comics should never be adapted for any kind of video media.
Crap acting. I don’t have enough imagination to compensate for bad acting
A lot of bad writing is often disguised as bad acting.
Sometimes poor directing or editing will sabotage the work of a normally decent actor as well. It's uncomfortable watching a competent performer trying to do their job when clearly everything is working to make it suck as much as possible. That said, someone turning in a genuinely compelling performance in the middle of an absolute flaming shitshow is its own kind of wonderful.
Hacking scenes. I’m no hacker but any IT person has an idea of how those things work. Sometimes it’s ok if you can tell that the writers did some research.
Big blue box "Access Granted" I'm passed the 3rd FBI firewall. Accessing camera on the 4th floor, ENHANCE!
Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. "Bingo."
Zoom in on his eye, I think I see a reflection
I reflection of his fingerprint on the monitor though his cornea. Book 'em boys! We got our guy.
Fingerprint match comes back on the search " *Insert name* is probably still holding up with his aunt down on the south side. I'll go pay him a visit"
Too many jump cuts. I feel like I'm about to have a seizure watching that shit.
When the main conflict is due to misunderstanding between the characters which they could've just resolved by talking to each other. It happens a lot in romance/drama movies and annoys the shit out of me. Especially when it's super petty misunderstandings that lead to huge dramatic conflict.
Unnecessary romance
Power goes out.
Instant turnoff
Bad writing. Writing a plot that is entirely dependent on the characters making poor decisions and avoiding obvious solutions, getting challenged not by anything external, just by their own stupidity. It's boring as hell to watch and it takes any interest I had in characters and zeroes it out.
*Dany forgot about the Iron Fleet*
Long before that, Sansa just decided not to tell Jon that she has the Knights of the Vale coming to help in the Battle of the Bastards. He almost died TWICE and the only reason was because "hurr de durr drama".
Lack of closed captioning or if the captioning is very laggy or grossly misspelling words. I'm hard of hearing and refuse to jack up the volume just to hear it. And sometimes some movies are very dim/dark so lip reading isn't always an option.
and with captions, if it's a summary of what the character is saying but not word for word it drives me up the walls
*speaking foreign language* *singing*
!!! it's been annoying seeing Netflix remove perfectly good captioning in shows. watching community and the good place I saw that they removed any captions whenever a character spoke a language that wasn't English. was super annoying considering this ruined a good joke/punchline 90% of the time.
For some reason Netflix often removes translations when you have subs on. If someone is saying something you think should be translated, but it isn’t, try turning subs off and it may actually show the translation. Backward, I know, but you’d be surprised how often it happens.
Forced romance or unnecessary sex scenes. I will admit the Halo show wasn’t great, but it had just enough to keep me interested. And then that sex scene happened and I lost all hope in the show being redeemable.
When it is obviously a ripoff of another show or movie. Everything is a little derivative, but some stuff pushes it way too far.
The German version of the Office (Stromberg) had to be sued before they put in a disclaimer in the credits that is was based in Ricky Gervais original show.
If I’ve watched like 5 episodes and still can’t get into it
I give a show 3 episodes
3 episodes is my go to also: 1 to let them set up the story, 2 let them settle in, and if by 3 you don't have me it's probably never going to work out
When there is an mid 20s adult playing a 16 year old
Damn Netflix teenagers out here putting grown men to shame with their sculpted physiques lol
If there isn’t a single sympathetic character
[The eight deadly words: "I don't care what happens to these people." ](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EightDeadlyWords)
If I hate everyone, I hate the show. I just can’t enjoy it if I don’t have at least one person to root for.
laugh tracks. not sure why, i just can't stand them
I love laugh tracks when I learned English. I can't really explain it except it really helps to understand the 'sensibilities' of the language of what's funny or why it should be funny.
That's the best most unexpected use of laugh tracks I've ever heard.
Infidelity ruins a lighthearted comedy for me.
When the volume is f’ked. If I have to strain to hear the dialogue, and then am almost deaf from the action, car, background noise I’m done.
Overly dramatic scenes. I dropped the walking dead a few seasons in because of this
"How could you eat my last slice of cake?" "Dude, there are zombies literally outside the car right now, trying to break in. We are in the middle of a desperate fight for our lives and if you don't start shooting, we're all gonna die." "My cake, Dave. How could you eat my cake?" "Now really is not the time!!!"
As soon as the writers stop finishing story arcs bc there are too many to address. See, lost season 3.
Once upon a time, season 4.
Overusing the laugh track , so annoying
Badly written women at both ends of the scale. Having a woman that is able to throw around a henchman that is 3 times her weight and half again her size is exactly as bad as having her be utterly helpless in the face of any threat. It smacks of cowardice to not have any weakness in a women character and smack of stupidity to have no strength as well.
Basically, not treating women as full human beings with strengths and weaknesses like any other human
I love the example of Ellen Ripley. She is scared and scarred. She is brave in the face of fear, but asks for help when she sees others can help and instruct her to improve. She takes the defeats and learns from it to do better She wasn't perfect at the start, she grew to her role. I don't get why that is so hard to do now
excessive crying, poor cgi, excessive cringe humor.. Oh and jared leto, lets not forget him.
Bad cgi can be really funny sometimes
Jared Leto, because, it’s Jared Fucking Leto.
If two characters who haven't seen each other since childhood establish that they were close friends by singing or chanting something. I either fast forward or shut it off.
Excuse me, but did you just say that you didn't enjoy the lion king?
Lazy, cheap humor. And I mean lazy: predictable set-ups and juvenile punchlines. I watched the first few minutes of the first episode of *Two Broke Girls*. It felt like it was written by two 14-year-old boys. I wanted to muddle through because of Kat Dennings...but no, couldn't do it. Same for the one episode of *Two and a Half Men.* Good God, both the writing and the performances were phoned in.
They did a reboot of *The Odd Couple* with Mathew Perry and Lt . Dangle and I seriously felt like I was on mushrooms watching the pilot. It's so, so corny and predictable, with a roaring laugh track every few seconds. It went for 3 seasons. I just don't get it.
Love triangles! Ughh I hate them so much. That’s why I can’t watch most of the kdramas.
Torture scenes. Call me nuts, but I hate watching people tortured, particularly if it involves them being maimed.
For me, the worst isn’t torture like Saw and Hostel. It’s the main character tied to a chair being beaten. There were about 5 torture scenes in the latest season of Stranger Things. It’s just tedious and adds nothing to the plot. SMACK! “Who do you work for?!!” SMACK SMACK. “Who do you work for?!!!” “Your mom.” “Well, since you won’t answer we will bring torture doctor in!”