My ex used to nag on about this girl for simply talking about her achievements, I brought it to a stop by saying, "what if she gets no appreciation anywhere from anyone and is suffering so bad that she has to appreciate herself outloud just to feel good about her actions" (which mirrored my ex exactly as well) she Immediately saw the relevance and felt bad.
Designing your child's entire life around your preferred aesthetic.
Kids' toys are not home decor, they're tacky and clashy and stand out. But that's why kids like them. They have bright colors and lights and sounds, they play music, they are sparkly, they're cartoony versions of real things to spark a child's interest and imagination.
Kids' clothes are not high fashion, they're comfy and colorful and have cartoon characters on them and kids can run around and play in them.
This business of dressing your child in uncomfortable, restrictive mini-me outfits and supplying your child with plain toys only in a neutral palette is just sad and proves that the moms want a photo prop, not a child. Sad Beige Life for Sad Beige Child.
Grown women who still act like they’re in the popular mean girl group at highschool. And the ones who need to talk shit about absolutely everything and everyone. Like you’re really letting your insecurity shine through there.
When I started working in my office I thought, "This is a professional environment, everyone here will be very grown up and mature" Nope, how wrong I was. It's like a school playground most of the time.
I was so *thrilled* to finally break into the Corporate World with a real, grown-up job. I loved the way my heels would click-clack on the tiled floor when I'd walk into the lobby, the heady rush of "I belong here" as I'd scan my ID badge, the sense of pride I had in my little cubicle because I had finally Made It^(TM)...
...only to cry in the car on my way home because of mean girl cliquey behavior.
Hey Whitney, if you see this: fuck you and your gaggle of basic bitch bobbleheads.
Left the insurance industry after 5 years of this. I teach now, and yet my work life balance is much better if that gives you any insight into the hours I pulled (salaried). That place burned me out hard; I had nightmares for years I still worked in that hellhole.
When I was starting as an elementary teacher, we had two of these (out of six people) in my grade level team. I would start the day feeling ok, or sometimes really great. Well our 30 minute midday meeting would come around and they would dominate the conversation, calling everything we have to do "stupid," making fun of other staff members, and talking about how much a pain in the ass their kids were. I felt like crap when I got out of those meetings.
Ive been working in an office over 16 years now, and its very true. Ive made some lifelong friends, and Ive also met a few hateful, bitter people who love nothing more than making others miserable.
I worked with a bitter, grumpy woman who was very negative, no one liked her. For some reason when arriving each day I would always smile at her and say "good morning Joann". She would just grumble back. Later, when I had quit the job, on my last day she gave me a card thanking me for treating her that way. Turned out she was in an abusive relationship, getting her ass beat by some man and my morning greetings helped her feel seen and get through the day. Never have I felt so humbled in my life. Sometimes those people who are nasty are going through stuff and really need someone to treat them decent.
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At the risk of being downvoted; when I started my corporate life my own mother warned me to “look out for women in the office. They are toxic”.
Goddamn, hate to stereotype but she was right 😂
We had two women have a falling out at work and it started becoming a "who's team are you on?" I literally said "I'm too old for this high school shit" and walked off.
Nice reply!
This dynamic, for some reason, evolved among my housemates when I was in college. The 5 of us (all female) were renting a big old rundown place, and had all been good friends before, except that we didn't really know "Molly."
But since Molly was besties with "Michelle," we were happy to have her join us: she seemed cool.
Then, a simmering mean-girl competition evolved between Molly and Michelle. It boiled over halfway through our first semester, the battle culminating in Michelle taking Molly's favorite shirt--which Molly wore all the time, and had once told the rest of us the long story of why it was her fave--from Molly's basket of clean clothes, *cutting it into pieces* to use as "rags."
Much screaming ensued.
And then the rest of us were cajoled by each party to be on her side. One girl chose Molly; another, Michelle. I, the "deciding vote"--one of them actually called it that--basically closed the door to my room and became a hermit until Michellle moved out.
It was ridiculous. But I did get a lot of classwork done!
Forgive me if I'm generalizing but I've noticed a lot more of "frenemy" phenomenon among women than men. In college, I got stuck between one of those situations. Awkward especially because it almost became intimate.
Men just kind of fight and get shit over with. Couldn't care enough to even be frenemy's with someone. If it got down to that, I would just drop them entirely or not interact with them.
I’m a 35 year old woman who supervises a 56 year old woman. We get a along great, but we have had to have so many conversations about her attitude against, “young girls with an attitude”. She will refuse to work with certain people, because, “I just know they’re going to have an attitude” and I’ve had to explain to her that it’s not defensive if they haven’t said or done anything yet and trying to get her to realize on some level that she creates 90% of the attitude by starting off on the offensive.
She was probably a judgemental snot when she was younger too. Source: am 57, & have had many older coworkers. Most of us get along with all generations. It's not something you age into.
One of the cool things about working for a Yellowstone concessionaire was the age mix. There were a lot of college-age people, and a lot of semi-retirees. Most people seemed to like working with other generations.
Thank you. It is just as wrong to be hateful to someone because they are young as it is to be hateful to someone because they’re older. That kind of attitude is not endemic to aging it’s just that some people will use any excuse to be an asshole to people
I was pretty much the only man in an office full of women for about 7 years. I was astonished at how badly the women cut each other down. No one rooted for anyone else to do well. It was really sad.
I was in a similar situation, the only man. None of the women were even on speaking terms with each other. But they'd all talk to me. It was being Henry Kissinger!
Aw yeah, *this* shit.
My favourite was, because they want used *niceness as a weapon*, they'd agree to bullshit things they didn't actually agree with to other women - see, look how sweet and selfless Sarah is compared to Jane, because Sarah is humbly agreeing to Jane's batshit idea for the project! Gosh, Jane must be such a bitch, right?! - and then when the meeting's over drop by my desk and ask me to kill Jane's idea for them so they don't have to go through with it.
Why? Because I've got a penis and thus am expected to be the bad guy. People expect guys to be dicks, so it's ok! (Um, did it ever occur to them I don't want to be seen as a dick?)
And aren't guys just meant to automatically do whatever a lady asks of them, anyway? *Be a man*!
I wanted to hang a sign on my desk saying "I'M NOT YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BOYFRIEND, OR YOUR DAD".
No one wants to acknowledge this but honestly women can be their own biggest enemy a decent amount of the time. Some of the worst and most disparaging comments I've heard towards a woman (especially her appearance) came from other women. I can think of 1 or 2 examples that are different.
Quit the company I worked at for 10 years because of a work place bully. Now I make more money and get to WFH 3 out of 5 days a week. Suck it, Laurie AKA “The Devil”
My version of Laurie is named Kristen, and she made my life hell for many years. I really don’t have strong feelings for people in my past either way. But all these years later, when I have a flashback of this B, I still want her to be eaten by an alligator.
Totally this! And they will find that one person who they deem strange or weird or just not good enough, and they will make that person's life miserable.
Gatekeeping clothing. I’m not about to copy your entire outfit piece by piece, homegirl, I like your shirt and I want to know where it’s from to see if they have other shit I like.
I remember my former friend had these cute flats from Vans, but hers were green. I told her I think they were so cute and got them in pink. OMG, she got soooooo snotty about it and think she's the shit because I got the same shoes as hers. I just never understood this.
If my friends like something I have and they got it too, I'm excited about it and we can talk about how comfy or cute they are.
I experienced the opposite of this story. In high school I took an astronomy class as an elective. I noticed the other girl at my table wore this gorgeous striped top with a big bow in the front almost every week. One day I told her that the shirt was very cute and it suited her well. The following week she said she had a surprise for me. She bought me the same top in a colour that she noticed I wear a lot. That was over a decade ago, I'm going to be a bridesmaid in her wedding in a few months, and I still have the shirt!
That is so nice. Such a positive outcome all around. See, like, it’s not hard to be nice, it’s crazy to me how many people will go out of their way to be mean spirited and selfish.
On tiktok a woman wore a sweater and several comments asked where she got it. She said she got it from a small boutique years ago so they couldn’t get it. I screenshotted her video, used google reverse image search, and found the sweater for sale at some big company. I copied the url and replied to numerous comments with just the url so they could buy the sweater… then she blocked me 😭😭😂
YES. I had a coworker that constantly defended Charles Manson. I’m just like…this is what you are spending your energy on!? I guess she thought it made her edgy.
I used to do volunteer work in a prison. I mentioned this to an older woman who grew up in the Soviet union. She talked about how some women in Russia wrote letters to and were devoted to convicts. This is apparently a worldwide phenomenon.
I worked as a night janitor for a while in the early 00s. The women's bathrooms were far and away the nastier. Like the men's room would have some piss on the floor around the urinal and toilet, but the women's room it would be all over the seats, the sanitary box would be packed full (and the waxed paper bag used as a liner would invariably be all the way down at the bottom of the box), paper towels piled near the half-empty trash can. It was wild.
Completely agree. I worked at mcdonalds when I was a student and the womens bathroom was definitely the worst. Don't understand how people can leave bathrooms behind like that. The baby change station included.. The mens had some gross stuff as well, like how are urinals covered in pubes? How???
As a teenager I worked at more than a few dive restaurants and bars, always stuck with the Friday/ Saturday night bar crowd hours. There was always one phrase you hated to hear - "cleanup in the ladies room".
"Cleanup in the men's room" meant some jackass clogged the toilet or threw up on something. Put on an apron and gloves, maybe a mask for the smell, in and out in 10-15 minutes.
"Cleanup in the ladies room"? Hoo boy. You were about to encounter a biohazard that would scare the fuck out of Stephen King. I once had to drag a garden hose in and spray down the fucking ceiling and then wash it down the walls. I couldn't even begin to tell you what it was I was cleaning up. It looked like an entire human being simply exploded. In the middle of the fucking room. Not the stall. In the middle of the entire fucking bathroom.
I work at a hospital and our break room where our female surgeons and nurses are have a boogie wall, these are professional women....And I'm the cleaner that has to clean that shit.
A girl I work with walked up to me yesterday and said “why do you have a problem with *insert other coworker*” to which I responded that I have no issue with this person.. I barely talk to this other person but I do genuinely like them. So I ask her who said I had a problem with anybody. And she refuses to tell me because of “integrity”.
So whatever you call that. That annoys me about other women. Because it has happened with my female friends more than once. Not often but often enough for me to notice.
There was a girl in my uni friend group that I only ever talked to once. A couple years down in the course, I dated a guy who held big parties that alot of people attended.
My friends told me she wouldn't stop bitching about me behind my back, which was weird because I never interacted with her except once, when I asked her about her vans, and I am generally friendly to everyone.
My boyfriend back then said he "didn't know there was beef between us" when really, SHE had the beef for unknown reason. I didn't know her, I was neutral with her until I found out she wouldn't stop shit talking about me. Turns out she had a crush on my then boyfriend.
It was not the last time some girl I barely interacted with would hate my guts, and before you say I'm the common denominator, I had guy friends who would witness all interactions between us and they were just as confused as I was.
Older/more experienced women who give the younger women they work with a hard time because they had it so much worse/because they went through it, too. Like, I’m glad I wasn’t in the professional world in the 80s and 90s, but it’s so wrong of them to just keep the bullshit going.
It still happens even now. A woman I knew said she wouldn’t help me with the job search because no one helped her break into her career and I had to learn on my own.
As a male, I felt the same way when my employer implemented Paternal leave. Had a director tell me he was expected back within 3 days of his kids. He mentioned we didn't have to take our full leave. I responded with "I'm sorry you never had this chance, but I intend to take full advantage of it."
Probably not. But I will give him 2 points in his favor. I heard him talking to another soon-to-be dad about a year later. He made it clear we'd look forward to seeing him in 6 weeks, the full length of the leave. Second, prior to his retiring, he made a point to bring me to the side and let me know how my directness through the time we worked together was something he appreciated more than most in his career. This was a blessing as I was always self conscious about how direct or "matter of fact" I could be. Turns out, a lot of folks appreciate it.
This! I've dropped so many "friends" over the past few years just cause everything was always a competition. I want friends that cheer each other on, not put you/others down constantly. Its exhausting
This is a solid friend building practice when you do it genuinely. Take something you like about a friend that they're good at, tell them they're awesome at it occasionally when appropriate. When it's something real about them, you notice, then give them a bro-style compliment it really brightens them up.
It works for men and women. Most people are good at something and they feel great when someone notices and compliments them in an enthusiastic platonic way.
Also, if you brighten people's day occasionally; you're going to end up with tons of people thinking you're a great person. That's not to mention karma, which I believe is real.
They probably have weird shit going on at home. Some women take out their mom issues on other women. I had a very abusive mother, and I find sometimes I start to use the coping mechanisms I developed from my childhood with other people. Luckily mine is mainly stonewalling and distancing myself from them, so it doesn't read as "crazy" as other coping mechanisms do. But I try not to do this consciously, forcing myself to have a conversation with someone that I would rather just avoid. Even if that conversation doesn't go well, if you give into a habit of stonewalling and avoiding everyone you end up not being able to do what you were there to do in the first place (Like work or practice whatever hobby activity).
But I've seen women who do that "prove you love me" thing to other women, by behaving badly then having a big breakdown because they NEED their best friend, forcing the friend to forgive them and express affection even though the were just being a total brat. That shits annoying, but I assume is from childhood issues too.
Omg, the last paragraph, you’ve just described my best friend from 15ish years ago, holy shit she was exhausting! I was getting so tired of her ‘tests’ and one day she said ‘I don’t think we should be friends anymore’ and I agreed. Major meltdown, months of prank texts and weird stalking behaviour, and repeatedly sending me friend requests 5 years later, followed by angry messages when I declined.
When a woman assumes that, as a fellow woman, I need to automatically agree and support her. I will absolutely listen but in no way will I just agree with you because of some unsaid sisterhood you believe in. Women can be shitty people too and I'm not cosigning it.
It’s like criticism is synonymous with misogyny these days and some just don’t want to be held accountable for ANYTHING. Did something horrible? Women support women! No critical thinking! It’s all good.
Oh, and women with Highlander syndrome - just cos your boss in the 90s told you there could only be one woman on the team, doesn’t mean it still true - and when it is, we should be working together to change that.
Trying to talk other women into having negative emotions.
*"Aren't you scared?! You must be scared. I wouldn't let my daughter do that."
*"Yes you were traumatized and if you disagree you're brainwashed too!"
*"You must hate X. ...You're in denial."
I feel this. There is this weird, “Don’t you hate being a woman? We have periods and wears bras and have to deal with sexism?” Honestly, no. I love being woman and find it much preferred to the alternative.
Whoa I didn't know this was a common(?) thing. This happened to me with my BFF when she was head over heels in love with one of her now exes. She would text asking me how things were going, I'd say fine, and then she kept asking if I was sure and saying I don't sound fine. This was all through text. It was so frustrating and annoying. I later (many months to a year after they broke up) asked her why she did that and she told me that she was so happy in her relationship that she felt I must be unhappy because I was not in a relationship.
*I must be unhappy because I was not in a relationship.*
Buahahahhaha dear lord. No offense to your friend but stuff like this just fills me with laughter out of frustration
I went through a phase at one point where I agreed with women when they did that. "Yeah, you're right. Wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out but holy fuck!"
Got blocked. Totally worth it.
Got a Friend Request on Facebook, didn't recognise her name. I was looking through her profile and going through all her pictures, which were filtered to fuck. Didn't recognise her at all.
She was my next door neighbour.
Flirting with another woman’s partner in front of them. Like I feel like a lot of men don’t cross that line when a girl is obviously with another guy but this one girl kept touching my partner telling him how he must work out a lot, how strong he looked, etc. I think she mostly did it to get a rise out of me. But still annoying and definitely not a one time occurrence
Guy here. We notice this. You don't get hit on by women until you're with a woman.
It's not that the woman hitting on you actually likes *you*, the dude. They just want to prove they're hotter/sexier/more attractive than the the woman you're with.
If they successfully break you up, they will immediately stop giving a shit about you.
In high school I had a “friend” go on a school trip with my boyfriend she “fell asleep” on him in the van then proceeded to text me about how amazing he is to cuddle.
If you know this couple, you get it. We don't know everything about celebrities but bravo to Pierce and his wife for shutting out this unwanted attention.
I've run into this a few times while in a relationship as a guy. I've actually talked to women who blatantly flirted with me while they knew I was in a relationship, and it seems to be that if you're in a relationship, you're already vetted as relationship material, and you're way less scary to approach or interact with because you're unlikely to be desperate or dangerous. A potentially unfaithful guy is far more attractive than one who might bury you in their back yard, I guess?
I'm not an attractive man. When I got married and started wearing my wedding ring I suddenly found myself being flirted with on a level I had never experienced before. Now I'm still not an attractive man. I'm no longer married and no longer wear my ring, and I suddenly get zero attention again.
Now, I'm not really trying to date, so it doesn't bother me. The obvious switches could also be my imagination, but it doesn't feel like it. Must be magic.
My sister flirts with my fiancé, she does it to get a rise out of me 100% and it just makes me respect her even less. Like we’ve never had a good relationship, but damn.
The psychology I read is that a woman thinks that if another woman - especially a hot woman - likes a guy, it proves that he is indeed a guy worth bagging. So she now wants him, too.
How indirect they are. Like just fucking talk to me if you have a problem or if you think I have a problem with you. No need to be passive aggressive or talk to other people about shit.
It’s the worst if you’re autistic, apparently I have “the male version of autism” so I don’t count (this is a different rant). Multiple female coworkers got mad at me and talked behind my back bc they asked me to do thing A when they *wanted* me to do thing B, like tell me that in the first place!
When a woman talks shit about her significant other. Girl, if you talk like that about the person who is committed to you, and supposedly the closest person in your life, then what will you say behind my back?
Honestly, I’ve had so many female relationships go sour because of mean-girling, gossiping, two- faced, vindictive, and manipulative behavior. I won’t deal with it anymore. I’m fine with my small circle, and I’m not putting anyone in my boat who is drilling a hole in it while I’m not looking.
My first wife really fucked me up doing this. She surrounded me with all of "her people", talked mad shit about me to them, and was like sweet and innocent. All these people hated me and I had no idea why. For 10 years this went on. Shit broke me...
I’m really glad to hear a girl say this. As a single guy for the last few years. I cannot help but notice all my buddies GFs, ALWAYS dog them when they’re not listening. Calling them “simpy” or “submissive” or just finding ways to degrade them just because they’ve got a problem with some men. Some women do this
Man. That sucks. As a guy, whenever I'm talking about my girlfriend I'm always presenting her as the best person in my life, because she is, and I will say it! It kinda hurts to know that this is the stuff that could be happening behind my buddies backs. :(
Simpy? Really? Isn't it a S/O's *job* to simp over you? I mean, yeah there's a limit to how much is too much, but seriously...
I love my wife. I think she's sexy af, and smart, and I love how much she loves animals, and I could go on about how great she is and how much she's grown as a person since I met her. I'm her #1 fan. I absolutely am a simp for my girl.
Nothing wrong w simping for your girl man, the problem comes when (a lot of ) women will say “he’s such a simp for me” meaning “I get my way and he does what I tell him” which isn’t healthy at all
The way they treat OTHER MOTHERS
Mothers can be some of the most vicious people I’ve ever seen in social media
I had a client who was in post-Parton depression saying she felt listless
Asked for help in a social media group and the vast majority said she needs her kids taken away…terrible mom
So I decided to see “was this a one time thing?”
Went to many mommy groups and holy shit moms are assholes. Oh you bottle feed? Abuse
You let them cry too long? Neglect?
You pick them up after a single tear? Terrible mom building a narcissistic kid
But all answers lead to “you should have your kids removed”
I talked to an elderly woman about this once because I don’t have a mom or know very many moms and I’m scared of being a mom based on what I have witnessed. This woman is essentially a single mom and is somehow still a sane human being at nearly 80. She told me tales of catty moms at every school event her kid ever had, even well into graduate-level programs, and her only advice was that you don’t have to give a shit about anyone you don’t want to; people will have their bullshit and opinions, but as long as you’re there for your kids every chance you can, that’s all that matters.
Yeah. I remember that shit from when my kids were little. I gave up breastfeeding my oldest around a few weeks, maybe a month? It’s a blur now but I felt horrendously guilty. Because of all the online mommy groups and their disdain for formula. I nursed my youngest until she was 14 months. And they’re now both in high school and guess what? Now, nobody gives a flying fuck how they were fed. I wish I could tell this to the new mamas. In 5, 10, 15 years, it won’t matter at all.
The cattiness and jealousy towards each other, especially around their partners.
If a man is going to cheat, he’s going to cheat. If he’s loyal, he’s going to be loyal. It doesn’t matter how possessive you act or how bitchy you are to any woman who comes within range. You have zero control over what he will do, and if you don’t trust your partner to be loyal and faithful then you’re with the wrong guy.
Chances are if you have a man who’s loyal but you act psychotic toward other women he comes in contact with, all you’ll do is push him away for acting that way without cause.
This goes for men too. "hey don't talk to my girlfriend." Like dude, i just said good morning and if that's enough to scare you, you guys need to work that out and leave me out of it.
As a guy, everything you mentioned is true.
I’d rather be single & free than cheat. Jealousy is only cute in a microdose. And I really mean micro. Anything beyond that is childish and toxic behavior. I’d rather be met with trust than with jealousy.
The line I've heard used is 'I trust *you* it's the other women I don't trust.'
...it shouldn't matter? If other women throw themselves all over me then the trust in me should be enough to know I'll politely decline or remove myself from the situation. If you don't think I'll do either of those, then you either don't *really* trust me or you're not confident enough in yourself.
I hate when women are in a clique and one of them won't hang out because the rest of them don't want to go wherever it is you invited them to . Like if I threw a party and invited them, they would only show up if ALL or most of them were going. Grown ass women doing this stuff . Cringe .
Good for you for showing up anyway. It's good to be a lone wolf sometimes, clearly! I do many things alone. I'll go out to lunch alone, or a movie, etc. I never understood following other people around or not doing what you want because your friend doesn't want to go somewhere. How boring life would be if I only went to places with friends !
Mostly the trying to bring other women down. I want to encourage other women. I want to lift them up not drag them down. Be cool if we were all in that same page lol.
Totally accurate! I sometimes do not like myself and it's mainly because of what other girls said to me. Boys've never said something, at least not in front of me, but girls did! There're lots of women who wants to bring other women down in order to be more attractive to men. I *really* can't understand this behaviour... :'(
It's certain women, not most or even many, who let other people do everything for them, as in helpless grown women. You're an adult, I'm not your mommy and you can learn if you want to.
When a relationship falls apart, too many women feel comfortable assigning unwarranted and very damaging and unfair labels to their ex just because they don’t like them. And further more, they conveniently never speak about their own shitty behavior they put him through.
I work with a girl who called her ex boyfriend “abusive” and shared two stories as to “why.”
First he was upset she blew off his birthday to go to Vegas for a fucking board game convention, and also because he told her she was embarrassing after SHE got drunk at a wedding and nearly started a fight with one of the bridesmaids. (Yeah, really). And even more mind boggling, some of the girls I work with were like “oh my god what an abusive piece of shit.”
Real abuse happens, and when women water the seriousness of it down because they want to “fit in” or can’t be big girls and take responsibility for THEIR part in a failed relationship, it irritates the shit out of me. Anybody whose actually been abused doesn’t flaunt it around like a quirky personality trait either.
Not only is that incredibly damaging to another person and their reputation, that’s also extremely harmful to people that are actually dealing with abuse.
No one is going to believe someone who claims to be abused if everyone that disliked their ex claimed to be “abused” because they didn’t like their ex. Really good point.
Way back in my D&D playing days, it was almost impossible for me to find a group to play with because the wives/girlfriends did not want me playing the game with their men. I had my own boyfriend. I didn’t want their men. I was there to play some D&D.
What about the ones who say " you're not a real mother if you haven't given birth naturally" " I'm stronger because I gave birth with no meds"
Stfu. You're both moms. You both birthed someone. Stop putting down other people.
Lack of compassion for other women and their own daughters. Women who think the objective for equality is to be as cruel and greedy as high ranking men. 'Badass' to disguise just mean and selfish. Can you be strong and kind?
Oh, it's *so sad* when it's their own daughters. I've seen that dynamic a few times; when I was a teenager it confused me. Now it just breaks my heart.
Women who won't just say what they mean to say instead of being cryptic. If you're upset, just say you're upset. No one should have to read your mind. I cannot deal with women who don't just come right out with it. If you say you want nothing for your birthday/anniversary/whatever then don't be upset when you actually get nothing. If you don't want your SO to go out with their friends because you want them to spend time with you, then say it. This type of behaviour from allegedly grown women is embarrassing to all of us. It holds us back and perpetuates a stereotype that I want no part of.
Learn to communicate ffs.
I have friends that literally never been without a boyfriend in their lives...
and I never met any of them, they totally have different friends that don't share
The idea that other women having struggles somehow invalidates your own struggles. Everyone has struggles and just because they have theirs doesn’t mean yours are not valid. They can even be the same struggle on different ends of the spectrum and they are still both valid.
The constant gossiping about other women
And the woman who thinks it's okay to hit on teenage boys while if a man did the same exact thing to a girl he would be labeled as a pedophile
The absolute mess and filth that is a bathroom. Hygiene products not properly wrapped & disposed of.
The poocaso painters. The hoovering bitches that piss on seats and leave it gross for next person. The ones that cover the seat in paper and leave it all over. The ones that dont wash their hands. Ya'll nasty as fuck all. Clean up after yourselves.
Mums who try and sign me up to some mlm scheme when I’m just trying to push my kid on the swing.
I believe those are called 'huns' or 'hons'
hahaha. i hope you are in this group [/antiMLM](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/)
Women that see everything as a competition. Those who aren't happy for your success, just constantly evaluate if they are better than you.
My ex used to nag on about this girl for simply talking about her achievements, I brought it to a stop by saying, "what if she gets no appreciation anywhere from anyone and is suffering so bad that she has to appreciate herself outloud just to feel good about her actions" (which mirrored my ex exactly as well) she Immediately saw the relevance and felt bad.
Well put. I'll use that.
Instagram moms. Please stop pretending you’re mother of the year. We see you screaming at your children while you’re trying to take the perfect photo.
Designing your child's entire life around your preferred aesthetic. Kids' toys are not home decor, they're tacky and clashy and stand out. But that's why kids like them. They have bright colors and lights and sounds, they play music, they are sparkly, they're cartoony versions of real things to spark a child's interest and imagination. Kids' clothes are not high fashion, they're comfy and colorful and have cartoon characters on them and kids can run around and play in them. This business of dressing your child in uncomfortable, restrictive mini-me outfits and supplying your child with plain toys only in a neutral palette is just sad and proves that the moms want a photo prop, not a child. Sad Beige Life for Sad Beige Child.
Grown women who still act like they’re in the popular mean girl group at highschool. And the ones who need to talk shit about absolutely everything and everyone. Like you’re really letting your insecurity shine through there.
When I started working in my office I thought, "This is a professional environment, everyone here will be very grown up and mature" Nope, how wrong I was. It's like a school playground most of the time.
I was so *thrilled* to finally break into the Corporate World with a real, grown-up job. I loved the way my heels would click-clack on the tiled floor when I'd walk into the lobby, the heady rush of "I belong here" as I'd scan my ID badge, the sense of pride I had in my little cubicle because I had finally Made It^(TM)... ...only to cry in the car on my way home because of mean girl cliquey behavior. Hey Whitney, if you see this: fuck you and your gaggle of basic bitch bobbleheads.
I hope that bitch Whitney sees this.
Yea! Fuck Whitney!
All my homies hate Whitney!
Whitney probably doesn’t even drink water
I heard she catches her poos with her hand before dropping it into the loo
Whitneys hate this one simple trick
Wtf!🤣
And henceforce she was known as Bitch Whitney
Bitchney
Shitney
Yeah, she sounds like a twat sandwich.
Left the insurance industry after 5 years of this. I teach now, and yet my work life balance is much better if that gives you any insight into the hours I pulled (salaried). That place burned me out hard; I had nightmares for years I still worked in that hellhole.
I worked as a nurse assistant for 11 years in various places. That is the most immature profession ever.
Omg I’ve worked as a CNA for the same place for 2 years (it’s a really good private nursing home) but the gossip mill is RIDICULOUS.
When I was starting as an elementary teacher, we had two of these (out of six people) in my grade level team. I would start the day feeling ok, or sometimes really great. Well our 30 minute midday meeting would come around and they would dominate the conversation, calling everything we have to do "stupid," making fun of other staff members, and talking about how much a pain in the ass their kids were. I felt like crap when I got out of those meetings.
Ive been working in an office over 16 years now, and its very true. Ive made some lifelong friends, and Ive also met a few hateful, bitter people who love nothing more than making others miserable.
I worked with a bitter, grumpy woman who was very negative, no one liked her. For some reason when arriving each day I would always smile at her and say "good morning Joann". She would just grumble back. Later, when I had quit the job, on my last day she gave me a card thanking me for treating her that way. Turned out she was in an abusive relationship, getting her ass beat by some man and my morning greetings helped her feel seen and get through the day. Never have I felt so humbled in my life. Sometimes those people who are nasty are going through stuff and really need someone to treat them decent. edited for spelling
That's wonderful you greeted her even though you thought she was grumpy.
It's easy to forget that. Good on you!
>and Ive also met a few hateful, bitter people who love nothing more than making others miserable. You know Katie also huh
Some (many?) people never get past 8th grade, regardless of how old they become.
At the risk of being downvoted; when I started my corporate life my own mother warned me to “look out for women in the office. They are toxic”. Goddamn, hate to stereotype but she was right 😂
We had two women have a falling out at work and it started becoming a "who's team are you on?" I literally said "I'm too old for this high school shit" and walked off.
Nice reply! This dynamic, for some reason, evolved among my housemates when I was in college. The 5 of us (all female) were renting a big old rundown place, and had all been good friends before, except that we didn't really know "Molly." But since Molly was besties with "Michelle," we were happy to have her join us: she seemed cool. Then, a simmering mean-girl competition evolved between Molly and Michelle. It boiled over halfway through our first semester, the battle culminating in Michelle taking Molly's favorite shirt--which Molly wore all the time, and had once told the rest of us the long story of why it was her fave--from Molly's basket of clean clothes, *cutting it into pieces* to use as "rags." Much screaming ensued. And then the rest of us were cajoled by each party to be on her side. One girl chose Molly; another, Michelle. I, the "deciding vote"--one of them actually called it that--basically closed the door to my room and became a hermit until Michellle moved out. It was ridiculous. But I did get a lot of classwork done!
Forgive me if I'm generalizing but I've noticed a lot more of "frenemy" phenomenon among women than men. In college, I got stuck between one of those situations. Awkward especially because it almost became intimate.
Men just kind of fight and get shit over with. Couldn't care enough to even be frenemy's with someone. If it got down to that, I would just drop them entirely or not interact with them.
"But you're only 22!" "Yup. Too old for this shit." \*deafening silence\*
I’m a 35 year old woman who supervises a 56 year old woman. We get a along great, but we have had to have so many conversations about her attitude against, “young girls with an attitude”. She will refuse to work with certain people, because, “I just know they’re going to have an attitude” and I’ve had to explain to her that it’s not defensive if they haven’t said or done anything yet and trying to get her to realize on some level that she creates 90% of the attitude by starting off on the offensive.
She was probably a judgemental snot when she was younger too. Source: am 57, & have had many older coworkers. Most of us get along with all generations. It's not something you age into. One of the cool things about working for a Yellowstone concessionaire was the age mix. There were a lot of college-age people, and a lot of semi-retirees. Most people seemed to like working with other generations.
Thank you. It is just as wrong to be hateful to someone because they are young as it is to be hateful to someone because they’re older. That kind of attitude is not endemic to aging it’s just that some people will use any excuse to be an asshole to people
I was pretty much the only man in an office full of women for about 7 years. I was astonished at how badly the women cut each other down. No one rooted for anyone else to do well. It was really sad.
I was in a similar situation, the only man. None of the women were even on speaking terms with each other. But they'd all talk to me. It was being Henry Kissinger!
Aw yeah, *this* shit. My favourite was, because they want used *niceness as a weapon*, they'd agree to bullshit things they didn't actually agree with to other women - see, look how sweet and selfless Sarah is compared to Jane, because Sarah is humbly agreeing to Jane's batshit idea for the project! Gosh, Jane must be such a bitch, right?! - and then when the meeting's over drop by my desk and ask me to kill Jane's idea for them so they don't have to go through with it. Why? Because I've got a penis and thus am expected to be the bad guy. People expect guys to be dicks, so it's ok! (Um, did it ever occur to them I don't want to be seen as a dick?) And aren't guys just meant to automatically do whatever a lady asks of them, anyway? *Be a man*! I wanted to hang a sign on my desk saying "I'M NOT YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BOYFRIEND, OR YOUR DAD".
No one wants to acknowledge this but honestly women can be their own biggest enemy a decent amount of the time. Some of the worst and most disparaging comments I've heard towards a woman (especially her appearance) came from other women. I can think of 1 or 2 examples that are different.
Quit the company I worked at for 10 years because of a work place bully. Now I make more money and get to WFH 3 out of 5 days a week. Suck it, Laurie AKA “The Devil”
My version of Laurie is named Kristen, and she made my life hell for many years. I really don’t have strong feelings for people in my past either way. But all these years later, when I have a flashback of this B, I still want her to be eaten by an alligator.
Yo! Eating Waffle House 3 days a week is the dream! Congrats
Totally this! And they will find that one person who they deem strange or weird or just not good enough, and they will make that person's life miserable.
Gatekeeping clothing. I’m not about to copy your entire outfit piece by piece, homegirl, I like your shirt and I want to know where it’s from to see if they have other shit I like.
“Its from Europe.” Replied: “It reminds me so much of an almost exact version I got from H&M back in high school.”
That would be a sick burn if I didn't come from a small town where I could only dream of H&M as some far-off wonderland.
Replace H&M with tractor supply. Still works, and burns just that much more.
I never understood the it's from Europe thing, I'm from Europe and let me tell you, our clothes are from China, same as yours
I remember my former friend had these cute flats from Vans, but hers were green. I told her I think they were so cute and got them in pink. OMG, she got soooooo snotty about it and think she's the shit because I got the same shoes as hers. I just never understood this. If my friends like something I have and they got it too, I'm excited about it and we can talk about how comfy or cute they are.
I experienced the opposite of this story. In high school I took an astronomy class as an elective. I noticed the other girl at my table wore this gorgeous striped top with a big bow in the front almost every week. One day I told her that the shirt was very cute and it suited her well. The following week she said she had a surprise for me. She bought me the same top in a colour that she noticed I wear a lot. That was over a decade ago, I'm going to be a bridesmaid in her wedding in a few months, and I still have the shirt!
That is so nice. Such a positive outcome all around. See, like, it’s not hard to be nice, it’s crazy to me how many people will go out of their way to be mean spirited and selfish.
That's wholesome. The only thing I'm wondering right now is the question of you being a squirrel. Are you a squirrel?
Omg veikko you can't just ask someone if they're a squirrel 😳
They're *Vans* everyone and their nan has a pair!
On tiktok a woman wore a sweater and several comments asked where she got it. She said she got it from a small boutique years ago so they couldn’t get it. I screenshotted her video, used google reverse image search, and found the sweater for sale at some big company. I copied the url and replied to numerous comments with just the url so they could buy the sweater… then she blocked me 😭😭😂
Yeah that’s the most common excuse I’ve heard, “I got it from this really small local boutique that closed down so you can’t get it :( sorry sweaty”
Deadass if that happens to you in the future and you have a picture/video of them wearing it send it to me and I can find it haha
Oh my god if you ask me where I got something I’ll tell you where, when, and how much it cost.
And brag about how I used a promo code 🤓
And definitely telling if it has pockets!
Yes! I told someone I liked her shoes, where did she get them? She replied 'they were really expensive'. I'm pretty sure I could afford them!
I said that to someone once because I was embarrassed about how much I had paid for shoes. I did tell the person the brand though.
Yes! Same goes for makeup, nail color, skincare, etc etc. Take it as a compliment and help another persons glow up!
People do this? If you tell me you like my shirt I'm going to immediately tell you where it came from and how to get it on sale.
Writing love letters to convicted killers.
YES. I had a coworker that constantly defended Charles Manson. I’m just like…this is what you are spending your energy on!? I guess she thought it made her edgy.
Tell her her obsession is like a pizza cutter: all edge and no point
Oh, I'm saving that zinger! Nice.
Yesssss Imagine being so self obsessed to the point where you think your "love" is going to be able to "fix" a murderous psychopath. Its insane.
I used to do volunteer work in a prison. I mentioned this to an older woman who grew up in the Soviet union. She talked about how some women in Russia wrote letters to and were devoted to convicts. This is apparently a worldwide phenomenon.
My mum has a 'boyfriend' penpal who is on death row for murdering a woman. I just don't get it.
My uncle is in prison for a triple homocide and just got married to a random lady a year ago. She likes to message me on Facebook. 🥴
This one is so weird.
Just in general being IN LOVE WITH serial killers. I love true crime but like why are you doin that
Getting blood on the toilet seat and not cleaning it up.
Not putting the pads/tampons properly in the trash compartment. Poor janitor.
I worked as a night janitor for a while in the early 00s. The women's bathrooms were far and away the nastier. Like the men's room would have some piss on the floor around the urinal and toilet, but the women's room it would be all over the seats, the sanitary box would be packed full (and the waxed paper bag used as a liner would invariably be all the way down at the bottom of the box), paper towels piled near the half-empty trash can. It was wild.
Completely agree. I worked at mcdonalds when I was a student and the womens bathroom was definitely the worst. Don't understand how people can leave bathrooms behind like that. The baby change station included.. The mens had some gross stuff as well, like how are urinals covered in pubes? How???
Ugh or hovering to pee and pissing all over it and leaving it. Edit: in public restrooms.
As a teenager I worked at more than a few dive restaurants and bars, always stuck with the Friday/ Saturday night bar crowd hours. There was always one phrase you hated to hear - "cleanup in the ladies room". "Cleanup in the men's room" meant some jackass clogged the toilet or threw up on something. Put on an apron and gloves, maybe a mask for the smell, in and out in 10-15 minutes. "Cleanup in the ladies room"? Hoo boy. You were about to encounter a biohazard that would scare the fuck out of Stephen King. I once had to drag a garden hose in and spray down the fucking ceiling and then wash it down the walls. I couldn't even begin to tell you what it was I was cleaning up. It looked like an entire human being simply exploded. In the middle of the fucking room. Not the stall. In the middle of the entire fucking bathroom.
The ceiling?.. I'm dying to know how could something like this happen and what it was.
We never figured it out. I don't wanna know.
I'm guilty of this. It wasn't even my period. I just got into a fistfight in the bathroom.
What did that poor toilet do to you?
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You takin’ the piss?
I work at a hospital and our break room where our female surgeons and nurses are have a boogie wall, these are professional women....And I'm the cleaner that has to clean that shit.
A girl I work with walked up to me yesterday and said “why do you have a problem with *insert other coworker*” to which I responded that I have no issue with this person.. I barely talk to this other person but I do genuinely like them. So I ask her who said I had a problem with anybody. And she refuses to tell me because of “integrity”. So whatever you call that. That annoys me about other women. Because it has happened with my female friends more than once. Not often but often enough for me to notice.
Fishing to make up a story..
Shit stirring. God why do people do this.
I feel like ‘integrity’ is code for ‘I made it up but I’ve told so many people about it that it’s now become real’
There was a girl in my uni friend group that I only ever talked to once. A couple years down in the course, I dated a guy who held big parties that alot of people attended. My friends told me she wouldn't stop bitching about me behind my back, which was weird because I never interacted with her except once, when I asked her about her vans, and I am generally friendly to everyone. My boyfriend back then said he "didn't know there was beef between us" when really, SHE had the beef for unknown reason. I didn't know her, I was neutral with her until I found out she wouldn't stop shit talking about me. Turns out she had a crush on my then boyfriend. It was not the last time some girl I barely interacted with would hate my guts, and before you say I'm the common denominator, I had guy friends who would witness all interactions between us and they were just as confused as I was.
Shit stirring is what you call it.
Older/more experienced women who give the younger women they work with a hard time because they had it so much worse/because they went through it, too. Like, I’m glad I wasn’t in the professional world in the 80s and 90s, but it’s so wrong of them to just keep the bullshit going.
It still happens even now. A woman I knew said she wouldn’t help me with the job search because no one helped her break into her career and I had to learn on my own.
As a male, I felt the same way when my employer implemented Paternal leave. Had a director tell me he was expected back within 3 days of his kids. He mentioned we didn't have to take our full leave. I responded with "I'm sorry you never had this chance, but I intend to take full advantage of it."
Bet this guy never advocated for paternal leave back in his day either.
Probably not. But I will give him 2 points in his favor. I heard him talking to another soon-to-be dad about a year later. He made it clear we'd look forward to seeing him in 6 weeks, the full length of the leave. Second, prior to his retiring, he made a point to bring me to the side and let me know how my directness through the time we worked together was something he appreciated more than most in his career. This was a blessing as I was always self conscious about how direct or "matter of fact" I could be. Turns out, a lot of folks appreciate it.
This happens to me all the time at my job, it's so annoying
Putting down other women in the hope that it will make them more attractive to guys
Just putting down other women full stop.
This! I've dropped so many "friends" over the past few years just cause everything was always a competition. I want friends that cheer each other on, not put you/others down constantly. Its exhausting
I saw a meme somewhere that said, “We don’t one up each other, we build each other up!” It really stuck with me and I try to remember it every day.
This is a solid friend building practice when you do it genuinely. Take something you like about a friend that they're good at, tell them they're awesome at it occasionally when appropriate. When it's something real about them, you notice, then give them a bro-style compliment it really brightens them up. It works for men and women. Most people are good at something and they feel great when someone notices and compliments them in an enthusiastic platonic way. Also, if you brighten people's day occasionally; you're going to end up with tons of people thinking you're a great person. That's not to mention karma, which I believe is real.
Some girls are mean to other girls in a way that’s almost romantic??? It gets almost obsessive to a point that makes you question their real feelings
They probably have weird shit going on at home. Some women take out their mom issues on other women. I had a very abusive mother, and I find sometimes I start to use the coping mechanisms I developed from my childhood with other people. Luckily mine is mainly stonewalling and distancing myself from them, so it doesn't read as "crazy" as other coping mechanisms do. But I try not to do this consciously, forcing myself to have a conversation with someone that I would rather just avoid. Even if that conversation doesn't go well, if you give into a habit of stonewalling and avoiding everyone you end up not being able to do what you were there to do in the first place (Like work or practice whatever hobby activity). But I've seen women who do that "prove you love me" thing to other women, by behaving badly then having a big breakdown because they NEED their best friend, forcing the friend to forgive them and express affection even though the were just being a total brat. That shits annoying, but I assume is from childhood issues too.
Omg, the last paragraph, you’ve just described my best friend from 15ish years ago, holy shit she was exhausting! I was getting so tired of her ‘tests’ and one day she said ‘I don’t think we should be friends anymore’ and I agreed. Major meltdown, months of prank texts and weird stalking behaviour, and repeatedly sending me friend requests 5 years later, followed by angry messages when I declined.
When a woman assumes that, as a fellow woman, I need to automatically agree and support her. I will absolutely listen but in no way will I just agree with you because of some unsaid sisterhood you believe in. Women can be shitty people too and I'm not cosigning it.
It’s like criticism is synonymous with misogyny these days and some just don’t want to be held accountable for ANYTHING. Did something horrible? Women support women! No critical thinking! It’s all good.
Oh, and women with Highlander syndrome - just cos your boss in the 90s told you there could only be one woman on the team, doesn’t mean it still true - and when it is, we should be working together to change that.
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Totally stealing "Highlander syndrome"
Trying to talk other women into having negative emotions. *"Aren't you scared?! You must be scared. I wouldn't let my daughter do that." *"Yes you were traumatized and if you disagree you're brainwashed too!" *"You must hate X. ...You're in denial."
This sounds like peak crab bucket mentality. "My life is bad, so I'll drag you down to my level."
I'm stealing "crab bucket mentality", thanks :)
I feel this. There is this weird, “Don’t you hate being a woman? We have periods and wears bras and have to deal with sexism?” Honestly, no. I love being woman and find it much preferred to the alternative.
Whoa I didn't know this was a common(?) thing. This happened to me with my BFF when she was head over heels in love with one of her now exes. She would text asking me how things were going, I'd say fine, and then she kept asking if I was sure and saying I don't sound fine. This was all through text. It was so frustrating and annoying. I later (many months to a year after they broke up) asked her why she did that and she told me that she was so happy in her relationship that she felt I must be unhappy because I was not in a relationship.
*I must be unhappy because I was not in a relationship.* Buahahahhaha dear lord. No offense to your friend but stuff like this just fills me with laughter out of frustration
Those who post their best selfies and call theirselves ugly so they can fish for compliments.
I went through a phase at one point where I agreed with women when they did that. "Yeah, you're right. Wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out but holy fuck!" Got blocked. Totally worth it.
Stealing this idea, for particularly annoying people.
So tired of ultra filtered pics too. Are you aging in reverse? Even worse, when you don't even recognize them. WTF even.
Got a Friend Request on Facebook, didn't recognise her name. I was looking through her profile and going through all her pictures, which were filtered to fuck. Didn't recognise her at all. She was my next door neighbour.
Flirting with another woman’s partner in front of them. Like I feel like a lot of men don’t cross that line when a girl is obviously with another guy but this one girl kept touching my partner telling him how he must work out a lot, how strong he looked, etc. I think she mostly did it to get a rise out of me. But still annoying and definitely not a one time occurrence
Guy here. We notice this. You don't get hit on by women until you're with a woman. It's not that the woman hitting on you actually likes *you*, the dude. They just want to prove they're hotter/sexier/more attractive than the the woman you're with. If they successfully break you up, they will immediately stop giving a shit about you.
It’s just embarrassing to be Frank. Like is your self confidence that low you feel the need to do that to prove your desirable?
> It’s just embarrassing to be Frank. Poor Frank.
Frank deserves better than this slander
In high school I had a “friend” go on a school trip with my boyfriend she “fell asleep” on him in the van then proceeded to text me about how amazing he is to cuddle.
This is why my mom told me to spray my hands with pepper spray before a fight 🫠
Pierce Brosnan says he used to have problems like this between fans of his and his wife
If you know this couple, you get it. We don't know everything about celebrities but bravo to Pierce and his wife for shutting out this unwanted attention.
Theres no better way to get hit on as a dude than to go out with a friend who is a girl.
but the girl that's going to hit on you is super ultra toxic, nobody normal just thinks aw yea im going to ruin this relationship
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That is a new perspective on things that I've never thought about.
I've run into this a few times while in a relationship as a guy. I've actually talked to women who blatantly flirted with me while they knew I was in a relationship, and it seems to be that if you're in a relationship, you're already vetted as relationship material, and you're way less scary to approach or interact with because you're unlikely to be desperate or dangerous. A potentially unfaithful guy is far more attractive than one who might bury you in their back yard, I guess?
I'm not an attractive man. When I got married and started wearing my wedding ring I suddenly found myself being flirted with on a level I had never experienced before. Now I'm still not an attractive man. I'm no longer married and no longer wear my ring, and I suddenly get zero attention again. Now, I'm not really trying to date, so it doesn't bother me. The obvious switches could also be my imagination, but it doesn't feel like it. Must be magic.
I have a female friend that offered to be my wingman. I might just take her up on that offer some time.
My sister flirts with my fiancé, she does it to get a rise out of me 100% and it just makes me respect her even less. Like we’ve never had a good relationship, but damn.
I don't like your sister
Same!
Amazing to see how many more women look our way when we’re beside an attractive girl. It’s like night and day sometimes.
The psychology I read is that a woman thinks that if another woman - especially a hot woman - likes a guy, it proves that he is indeed a guy worth bagging. So she now wants him, too.
Only when I had a GF I got more attention from other girls
How indirect they are. Like just fucking talk to me if you have a problem or if you think I have a problem with you. No need to be passive aggressive or talk to other people about shit.
It’s the worst if you’re autistic, apparently I have “the male version of autism” so I don’t count (this is a different rant). Multiple female coworkers got mad at me and talked behind my back bc they asked me to do thing A when they *wanted* me to do thing B, like tell me that in the first place!
Oh that’s terrible. I don’t have autism but I would still totally not understand that. “Do Thing A” means “Do Thing A”.
When a woman talks shit about her significant other. Girl, if you talk like that about the person who is committed to you, and supposedly the closest person in your life, then what will you say behind my back? Honestly, I’ve had so many female relationships go sour because of mean-girling, gossiping, two- faced, vindictive, and manipulative behavior. I won’t deal with it anymore. I’m fine with my small circle, and I’m not putting anyone in my boat who is drilling a hole in it while I’m not looking.
My first wife really fucked me up doing this. She surrounded me with all of "her people", talked mad shit about me to them, and was like sweet and innocent. All these people hated me and I had no idea why. For 10 years this went on. Shit broke me...
I’m really glad to hear a girl say this. As a single guy for the last few years. I cannot help but notice all my buddies GFs, ALWAYS dog them when they’re not listening. Calling them “simpy” or “submissive” or just finding ways to degrade them just because they’ve got a problem with some men. Some women do this
Man. That sucks. As a guy, whenever I'm talking about my girlfriend I'm always presenting her as the best person in my life, because she is, and I will say it! It kinda hurts to know that this is the stuff that could be happening behind my buddies backs. :(
Simpy? Really? Isn't it a S/O's *job* to simp over you? I mean, yeah there's a limit to how much is too much, but seriously... I love my wife. I think she's sexy af, and smart, and I love how much she loves animals, and I could go on about how great she is and how much she's grown as a person since I met her. I'm her #1 fan. I absolutely am a simp for my girl.
Nothing wrong w simping for your girl man, the problem comes when (a lot of ) women will say “he’s such a simp for me” meaning “I get my way and he does what I tell him” which isn’t healthy at all
The way they treat OTHER MOTHERS Mothers can be some of the most vicious people I’ve ever seen in social media I had a client who was in post-Parton depression saying she felt listless Asked for help in a social media group and the vast majority said she needs her kids taken away…terrible mom So I decided to see “was this a one time thing?” Went to many mommy groups and holy shit moms are assholes. Oh you bottle feed? Abuse You let them cry too long? Neglect? You pick them up after a single tear? Terrible mom building a narcissistic kid But all answers lead to “you should have your kids removed”
I talked to an elderly woman about this once because I don’t have a mom or know very many moms and I’m scared of being a mom based on what I have witnessed. This woman is essentially a single mom and is somehow still a sane human being at nearly 80. She told me tales of catty moms at every school event her kid ever had, even well into graduate-level programs, and her only advice was that you don’t have to give a shit about anyone you don’t want to; people will have their bullshit and opinions, but as long as you’re there for your kids every chance you can, that’s all that matters.
Yeah. I remember that shit from when my kids were little. I gave up breastfeeding my oldest around a few weeks, maybe a month? It’s a blur now but I felt horrendously guilty. Because of all the online mommy groups and their disdain for formula. I nursed my youngest until she was 14 months. And they’re now both in high school and guess what? Now, nobody gives a flying fuck how they were fed. I wish I could tell this to the new mamas. In 5, 10, 15 years, it won’t matter at all.
Women who don’t clean up after themselves in shared restrooms. It’s filthy. Literal period blood on the seats. Y’all live like this at home?
The cattiness and jealousy towards each other, especially around their partners. If a man is going to cheat, he’s going to cheat. If he’s loyal, he’s going to be loyal. It doesn’t matter how possessive you act or how bitchy you are to any woman who comes within range. You have zero control over what he will do, and if you don’t trust your partner to be loyal and faithful then you’re with the wrong guy. Chances are if you have a man who’s loyal but you act psychotic toward other women he comes in contact with, all you’ll do is push him away for acting that way without cause.
This goes for men too. "hey don't talk to my girlfriend." Like dude, i just said good morning and if that's enough to scare you, you guys need to work that out and leave me out of it.
As a guy, everything you mentioned is true. I’d rather be single & free than cheat. Jealousy is only cute in a microdose. And I really mean micro. Anything beyond that is childish and toxic behavior. I’d rather be met with trust than with jealousy.
The line I've heard used is 'I trust *you* it's the other women I don't trust.' ...it shouldn't matter? If other women throw themselves all over me then the trust in me should be enough to know I'll politely decline or remove myself from the situation. If you don't think I'll do either of those, then you either don't *really* trust me or you're not confident enough in yourself.
I hate when women are in a clique and one of them won't hang out because the rest of them don't want to go wherever it is you invited them to . Like if I threw a party and invited them, they would only show up if ALL or most of them were going. Grown ass women doing this stuff . Cringe .
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Good for you for showing up anyway. It's good to be a lone wolf sometimes, clearly! I do many things alone. I'll go out to lunch alone, or a movie, etc. I never understood following other people around or not doing what you want because your friend doesn't want to go somewhere. How boring life would be if I only went to places with friends !
Fake baby voice around men
The constant fishing for attention from the masses. "Omg, I look terrible today 🥺" *posts selfie so people can tell her otherwise every other day*
\#braveGirl #Blessed #foreverYoung #IwokeLikeThis ...
The MLM crowd loves #Bosslady.
I like to agree with them on how horrible they look/are, just to get the white knights out for a nice joust.
Women who talk shit about someone they’re friend with
Mostly the trying to bring other women down. I want to encourage other women. I want to lift them up not drag them down. Be cool if we were all in that same page lol.
Totally accurate! I sometimes do not like myself and it's mainly because of what other girls said to me. Boys've never said something, at least not in front of me, but girls did! There're lots of women who wants to bring other women down in order to be more attractive to men. I *really* can't understand this behaviour... :'(
Talking about people they claim to like/love behind their backs.
It's certain women, not most or even many, who let other people do everything for them, as in helpless grown women. You're an adult, I'm not your mommy and you can learn if you want to.
When a relationship falls apart, too many women feel comfortable assigning unwarranted and very damaging and unfair labels to their ex just because they don’t like them. And further more, they conveniently never speak about their own shitty behavior they put him through. I work with a girl who called her ex boyfriend “abusive” and shared two stories as to “why.” First he was upset she blew off his birthday to go to Vegas for a fucking board game convention, and also because he told her she was embarrassing after SHE got drunk at a wedding and nearly started a fight with one of the bridesmaids. (Yeah, really). And even more mind boggling, some of the girls I work with were like “oh my god what an abusive piece of shit.” Real abuse happens, and when women water the seriousness of it down because they want to “fit in” or can’t be big girls and take responsibility for THEIR part in a failed relationship, it irritates the shit out of me. Anybody whose actually been abused doesn’t flaunt it around like a quirky personality trait either.
Not only is that incredibly damaging to another person and their reputation, that’s also extremely harmful to people that are actually dealing with abuse. No one is going to believe someone who claims to be abused if everyone that disliked their ex claimed to be “abused” because they didn’t like their ex. Really good point.
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Way back in my D&D playing days, it was almost impossible for me to find a group to play with because the wives/girlfriends did not want me playing the game with their men. I had my own boyfriend. I didn’t want their men. I was there to play some D&D.
The ones with kids who are like "you don't know what a lack of sleep is like until you have FOUR KIDS"
What about the ones who say " you're not a real mother if you haven't given birth naturally" " I'm stronger because I gave birth with no meds" Stfu. You're both moms. You both birthed someone. Stop putting down other people.
Lack of compassion for other women and their own daughters. Women who think the objective for equality is to be as cruel and greedy as high ranking men. 'Badass' to disguise just mean and selfish. Can you be strong and kind?
Oh, it's *so sad* when it's their own daughters. I've seen that dynamic a few times; when I was a teenager it confused me. Now it just breaks my heart.
Women who won't just say what they mean to say instead of being cryptic. If you're upset, just say you're upset. No one should have to read your mind. I cannot deal with women who don't just come right out with it. If you say you want nothing for your birthday/anniversary/whatever then don't be upset when you actually get nothing. If you don't want your SO to go out with their friends because you want them to spend time with you, then say it. This type of behaviour from allegedly grown women is embarrassing to all of us. It holds us back and perpetuates a stereotype that I want no part of. Learn to communicate ffs.
Women that have to have a man at all times, have no idea how to do anything for themselves or pay their own way.
I have friends that literally never been without a boyfriend in their lives... and I never met any of them, they totally have different friends that don't share
The idea that other women having struggles somehow invalidates your own struggles. Everyone has struggles and just because they have theirs doesn’t mean yours are not valid. They can even be the same struggle on different ends of the spectrum and they are still both valid.
The constant gossiping about other women And the woman who thinks it's okay to hit on teenage boys while if a man did the same exact thing to a girl he would be labeled as a pedophile
Women who aren't for other women. Like they see you as competition.
Snarky remarks or comments with hidden meanings from ‘friends’.
Backstabbing and being toxic in general, i hate it but its tolerated/seen as boss girl bad bitch type shit
The absolute mess and filth that is a bathroom. Hygiene products not properly wrapped & disposed of. The poocaso painters. The hoovering bitches that piss on seats and leave it gross for next person. The ones that cover the seat in paper and leave it all over. The ones that dont wash their hands. Ya'll nasty as fuck all. Clean up after yourselves.
Women in higher level positions trying to undermine other women. We're supposed to be allies, not play power games and undermine each other.
All my meanest bosses were women. Now, I've had WONDERFUL women bosses, but the ones who were the most cruel were almost always the same gender as me.