There’s no other reason. He’s mediocre and a utility player and we’ve got one of the best utility players in the league. Having a biggio on the team would be cool but unnecessary considering the holes we have already.
He’s having his worst career year and still doing better than a few of our guys. Fresh starts can always revitalize guys. In 2019 he was pushed as one of the future players for the Jays.
I wouldn’t mind signing him to a minor league deal or something.
Worst case scenario you have a good business decision selling those jerseys and good chances to bring his dad back for more appearances.
>I wouldn’t mind signing him to a minor league deal or something.
Can't do that unless you claim his waiver and then trade for him.
A normal waiver claim requires you to place him on your MLB roster.
I mean I guess but he is a below average bat than can play average to below average defense everywhere. Better than abreu right now but that’s about it.
Lope is better than Abreu right now. I think you can throw lope at 1st and he’ll shock the org. Obviously they don’t see it that way but I’m not sure that they want to they signed Abreu to a big deal and he’s gonna play that out.
They won’t claim him because he makes $4.2M. If he clears waivers, I could see it as the team seemingly wants another utility player on the roster besides Dubon and wants to help a family member of a franchise icon.
However, he’s 29 years old, K’s a lot (32.1% this year), has seen his exit velocity drop significantly this season (-5.5 MPH compared to last season), his OPS+ is a career low 80, he’s not fast, and his defense is merely OK.
Unless you think you can figure things out with him, and there are a number of guys that they are already trying to do that with, I’m not sure he’s worth it. You can hope he clears waivers and sign him to a minor league deal, but is he willing to do that?
The contract only means nothing if he clears waivers and is declared a free agent, or the Astros work out a waiver trade and the Jays pick up some/all of the salary.
If the Astros want another bat on the roster, then Loperfido is the obvious choice.
Unless the Astros are signing some minor league depth, I pass on this one.
* He's a career .220 hitter and barely staying above the Mendoza line this season.
* He isn't versatile in the field. He has played many positions because he's not that great at any one position and the Blue Jays have found guys better. Grae Kessinger is a better choice in the field than Cavan Biggio.
* He's not his dad.
Astros fans need to look at his actual stats and ignore the last name.
This fanbase is full of so many sentimentalists. I honestly thought this was joke post at first. It makes absolutely zero baseball sense to pick him up.
He’s worth picking up on a minor league deal.
He was really good with the Jays a few years ago and could possibly compete for a bench spot on our team.
Also, based on the way most offensive players have had their offense die out after starting well, I think he’s probably better than what we are seeing out of him right now.
Not worth a 26 man spot right now, but a minor league deal would be a fantastic pickup
A Biggio in an Astros' uniform should either be at second base or faceplanting into Tal's Hill in center.
Since neither is an option, pass.
For an actual answer, it'd be cool for sentimental purposes, but for actually improving the team, this doesn't move the needle at all. It's a bit of a waste to carry two utility infielders, and Dubon is better at basically everything offensively and defensively (if Biggio could find his power stroke again, this would be a different story, but right now he's basically a walk or a strikeout at the plate). Additionally, this move would likely all but guarantee Loperfido is spending the rest of the year in AAA.
Biggio's wRC+ is barely below 100, because he walks.
That, along with the defensive versatility, is a plus. Biggio is a better hitter than Kessinger, and allows Kessinger to get regular PAs in the minors.
As I said, I'd prefer Biggio over Abreu. Is Biggio great? No, but he's far better than many here seem to think.
Except he's not better than some people think. He's very Mediocre. The worst part is that his stats have been declining steadily since his rookie year. He's not getting better with a change in scenery.
If he had any other last name Astros fans would ignore that DFA.
Cavan would have never been considered a Major League player if his last name wasn't "BIGGIO". He grew up in the game and isn't starstruck like the majority of "fringe" players. I don't think Cavan Biggio can help the Astros. Sure, he's a curiosity but we Need Players
It would be awesome to see him on the Astros. Imagine he wears the #7 jersey. I just don’t know whos spot he takes. Singleton?
I reckon if he clears waivers Dana might just say hey come to Sugar Land and let’s see if you can work it out.
He can't wear #7, its been retired.
There is ZERO reason to grab him. He is not his dad. He's a career .220 hitter, and this year hitting .200. He's not all that great in the field. He has nothing to offer that that Astros can use.
Let the Nostalgia die.
He has a career OPS+ of 101 and 2.4 WAR per 162 games.
Meaning he is an above average player having a terrible season
2 WAR per 162 is average and a 100 OPS+ is average
He’s no all star, but over his career and outside of this season he has been an above average player.
This isn’t some guy with a negative 3 WAR and an OPS of .200
I think a change of scenery could help him, but I wouldn’t guarantee him a roster spot.
He’s a great pickup if we can get him on a minor league deal to let him compete for a roster spot this September / if Bregman leaves next year
> He has a career OPS+ of 101 and 2.4 WAR per 162 games.*
>
>Meaning he is an above average player having a terrible season*
No, a OPS+ of 101 and WAR of 2.4 is not above average. Its unbelievably average, He's an average player having a bad year, following a bad year, following another bad year. He's been trending down each season. He's not a guy that want or need. He's a 4A player at best. He's a great fill in if you need a fill a spot when someone is hurt, he's not an everyday player. Forget his last name and he's a very forgetable player.
101 is practically average. I’ll give you that.
But 2.4 is pretty decent, that’s like 20% better than the average player.
He’s an average bat with good not great defense at multiple positions.
I don’t want to give him a roster spot, I want to give him a minor league contract and let him battle for a September call up/ next season starting role.
He could be decent competition for Wagner to fill 3rd / the utility role depending on whether Dubon plays 3rd full time after Bregman leaves or not.
2.4 is pretty average, that's it....and that's his career. But look at it closer. You are ignoring the fact that he's trending downward very very quickly. This year he's at a whopping 0.4. The point here is that you have to look at the trends, looking only at his career numbers isn't telling the real picture.
At best he's the 27th man, the guy you need as a fill in when someone is hurt, That's it. I mean sure if you want to give him a minor league deal and let him fight for the spot, I guess you could, but realistically, even with the lack of top 100 prospects in the Astros System, he's not in the competition for a starting role. You gotta get past the last name.
We have Dubon
Beyond his dad’s connection with the club, why is this interesting?
There’s no other reason. He’s mediocre and a utility player and we’ve got one of the best utility players in the league. Having a biggio on the team would be cool but unnecessary considering the holes we have already.
Exactly, he got DFA’d cause he was doing spectacular this season.
He’s having his worst career year and still doing better than a few of our guys. Fresh starts can always revitalize guys. In 2019 he was pushed as one of the future players for the Jays. I wouldn’t mind signing him to a minor league deal or something. Worst case scenario you have a good business decision selling those jerseys and good chances to bring his dad back for more appearances.
If he's cheap, why not
>I wouldn’t mind signing him to a minor league deal or something. Can't do that unless you claim his waiver and then trade for him. A normal waiver claim requires you to place him on your MLB roster.
Yeah and in 2020 jose abreu won mvp...
Jeff Bagwell was inducted into Hall of Fame in 2017. Maybe Astros should just start him at first base to finish out 2024
I mean I guess but he is a below average bat than can play average to below average defense everywhere. Better than abreu right now but that’s about it.
Was this description on the back if his baseball card??
It said Biggio and Bagwel got confused
Lope is better than Abreu right now. I think you can throw lope at 1st and he’ll shock the org. Obviously they don’t see it that way but I’m not sure that they want to they signed Abreu to a big deal and he’s gonna play that out.
Can he pitch?
No. We don’t need to pick up an average player because of his father’s accomplishments. Nepo baby vibes in the clubhouse if it happened.
And Bagwell will be even more up in Crane’s ear. Nope.
Would you be posting this if he had a different last name?
They won’t claim him because he makes $4.2M. If he clears waivers, I could see it as the team seemingly wants another utility player on the roster besides Dubon and wants to help a family member of a franchise icon. However, he’s 29 years old, K’s a lot (32.1% this year), has seen his exit velocity drop significantly this season (-5.5 MPH compared to last season), his OPS+ is a career low 80, he’s not fast, and his defense is merely OK. Unless you think you can figure things out with him, and there are a number of guys that they are already trying to do that with, I’m not sure he’s worth it. You can hope he clears waivers and sign him to a minor league deal, but is he willing to do that?
That’s just fan stuff
The contract means nothing if a waiver claim, no?
If they claim him, the Astros pay the remainder of his salary.
You're right. I was thinking of after he clears waivers.
If he clears waivers, he can be placed in the Jays minor system. I wouldn't see a need for them to send him somewhere else.
The contract only means nothing if he clears waivers and is declared a free agent, or the Astros work out a waiver trade and the Jays pick up some/all of the salary.
We have the best utility man in the league. We don’t really need him.
If the Astros want another bat on the roster, then Loperfido is the obvious choice. Unless the Astros are signing some minor league depth, I pass on this one.
* He's a career .220 hitter and barely staying above the Mendoza line this season. * He isn't versatile in the field. He has played many positions because he's not that great at any one position and the Blue Jays have found guys better. Grae Kessinger is a better choice in the field than Cavan Biggio. * He's not his dad. Astros fans need to look at his actual stats and ignore the last name.
This fanbase is full of so many sentimentalists. I honestly thought this was joke post at first. It makes absolutely zero baseball sense to pick him up.
No. We have enough sub .200 hitters
Nope, terrible idea. Waste of money.
Jerseys would sell. Other than that? 🙅🏼♂️
Can he pitch cause we need pitchers...
He sucks. Just because he’s a legacy doesn’t mean we automatically need to pick him up. Smh
Braves already traded cash considerations for him yesterday
No they didn't ...not yet.
No
No
If we’re gonna suck we might as well sell some merch
Nope
He’s not great, he’s good. Rubin is good-to-great. Unless Biggio has a starting pitcher career ahead of him, I’d pass.
He’s worth picking up on a minor league deal. He was really good with the Jays a few years ago and could possibly compete for a bench spot on our team. Also, based on the way most offensive players have had their offense die out after starting well, I think he’s probably better than what we are seeing out of him right now. Not worth a 26 man spot right now, but a minor league deal would be a fantastic pickup
Aren’t there reasons for a DFA?
We should sign Trevor Bauer. Cheap too.
Chi white Sox or Houston will be a good pick for $4m he as left.
I already have Chas McCormick
Every time I see this guy at the plate, I'm shocked that he's still playing professional baseball. That pretty much began his rookie season.
No.
A Biggio in an Astros' uniform should either be at second base or faceplanting into Tal's Hill in center. Since neither is an option, pass. For an actual answer, it'd be cool for sentimental purposes, but for actually improving the team, this doesn't move the needle at all. It's a bit of a waste to carry two utility infielders, and Dubon is better at basically everything offensively and defensively (if Biggio could find his power stroke again, this would be a different story, but right now he's basically a walk or a strikeout at the plate). Additionally, this move would likely all but guarantee Loperfido is spending the rest of the year in AAA.
Can he play starting pitcher?
We need starting pitchers………
He just got DFAd. What's interesting?
He'd be a decent 26th man. Does walk frequently still. I'd much prefer him over Abreu.
No he wouldn't. Unless you are talking about a 26th man for the Space Cowboys. Grae Kessigner is a much better choice than Biggio.
Biggio's wRC+ is barely below 100, because he walks. That, along with the defensive versatility, is a plus. Biggio is a better hitter than Kessinger, and allows Kessinger to get regular PAs in the minors. As I said, I'd prefer Biggio over Abreu. Is Biggio great? No, but he's far better than many here seem to think.
Except he's not better than some people think. He's very Mediocre. The worst part is that his stats have been declining steadily since his rookie year. He's not getting better with a change in scenery. If he had any other last name Astros fans would ignore that DFA.
Maybe as a depth guy if they end up selling pieces off, but he really wouldn’t add anything.
Grae Kessinger would be a better depth guy than Biggio.
His daddy was an All-star and is a HOF member. He’ll be reminded of that every day in Houston. So, hard pass for all
Bagwell will probably approve
Cavan would have never been considered a Major League player if his last name wasn't "BIGGIO". He grew up in the game and isn't starstruck like the majority of "fringe" players. I don't think Cavan Biggio can help the Astros. Sure, he's a curiosity but we Need Players
Bauer first
if his name was Cavan Anderson absolutely NONE of y'all would care lmao
It would be awesome to see him on the Astros. Imagine he wears the #7 jersey. I just don’t know whos spot he takes. Singleton? I reckon if he clears waivers Dana might just say hey come to Sugar Land and let’s see if you can work it out.
He can't wear #7, its been retired. There is ZERO reason to grab him. He is not his dad. He's a career .220 hitter, and this year hitting .200. He's not all that great in the field. He has nothing to offer that that Astros can use. Let the Nostalgia die.
He has a career OPS+ of 101 and 2.4 WAR per 162 games. Meaning he is an above average player having a terrible season 2 WAR per 162 is average and a 100 OPS+ is average He’s no all star, but over his career and outside of this season he has been an above average player. This isn’t some guy with a negative 3 WAR and an OPS of .200 I think a change of scenery could help him, but I wouldn’t guarantee him a roster spot. He’s a great pickup if we can get him on a minor league deal to let him compete for a roster spot this September / if Bregman leaves next year
> He has a career OPS+ of 101 and 2.4 WAR per 162 games.* > >Meaning he is an above average player having a terrible season* No, a OPS+ of 101 and WAR of 2.4 is not above average. Its unbelievably average, He's an average player having a bad year, following a bad year, following another bad year. He's been trending down each season. He's not a guy that want or need. He's a 4A player at best. He's a great fill in if you need a fill a spot when someone is hurt, he's not an everyday player. Forget his last name and he's a very forgetable player.
101 is practically average. I’ll give you that. But 2.4 is pretty decent, that’s like 20% better than the average player. He’s an average bat with good not great defense at multiple positions. I don’t want to give him a roster spot, I want to give him a minor league contract and let him battle for a September call up/ next season starting role. He could be decent competition for Wagner to fill 3rd / the utility role depending on whether Dubon plays 3rd full time after Bregman leaves or not.
2.4 is pretty average, that's it....and that's his career. But look at it closer. You are ignoring the fact that he's trending downward very very quickly. This year he's at a whopping 0.4. The point here is that you have to look at the trends, looking only at his career numbers isn't telling the real picture. At best he's the 27th man, the guy you need as a fill in when someone is hurt, That's it. I mean sure if you want to give him a minor league deal and let him fight for the spot, I guess you could, but realistically, even with the lack of top 100 prospects in the Astros System, he's not in the competition for a starting role. You gotta get past the last name.