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ZonaranCrusader

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TheFuckerNugger

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DOOMFOOL

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MistyAutumnRain

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DOOMFOOL

You win


warwicklord79

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ZonaranCrusader

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MrMonkeMans

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jomikko

There were actually plenty of good crops during the famine. People starved because the British insisted on exporting all non-potato crops to feed the empire, leaving the Irish with nothing. Like most famines, it was a callously manufactured genocide.


LevelOutlandishness1

From clowning on someone for an inadequately cropped meme to informing people about the crimes of the British Empire. This is a great first thread of the morning.


ZonaranCrusader

Dammit I replied to someone else with this image


RandomlyElemental

I mean, they were children so...


enchiladasundae

They kept Dan Schneider on staff for a long ass time. I guess they care more about cartoon kids than real children


trumpetrabbit

They care more about the appearance of caring for children, than actually caring for children.


jbahill75

This is exactly accurate


slide_into_my_BM

And Disney hired convicted pedophile Brian Peck after he served time in jail for repeatedly raping a minor.


theonemangoonsquad

And the dude was working in kids film and TV up to 2018. 15 years after he became a registered sex offender. It's a miracle and a shame nobody has put a bullet through his head by now.


slide_into_my_BM

I had to have a background check to work at fucking IKEA in high school. How that wasn’t required on any film set, let alone a film set with children, tells you everything you need to know about that industry.


Hobbescrownest

I’m suprised nobody in prison “took care of him”.


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

He was only there 16 months too.


Aslevjal_901

Wait what??!!?


ngl_prettybad

or, you know, money


Bohij_The_great

The first twitter users.


AveryLazyCovfefe

Rare Nick W. I want to ask what the hell was going on in Bryan's mind when he pitched the original designs.


Efficient-Intern-173

I wish they also reacted similarly with Dan


Bohij_The_great

OK from what I heard its cause they wanted the FN gang to wear swimsuits a teenager would wear. Teens are rebellious they would want to try and wear a more revealing swimsuit than a one piece. However Bryan knew he wouldn't get that past Nickleodeon so he drew something so inappropriate that Nick would go with his intended designs since they were the safer option. The South Park guys do this all the time. They've been on record saying they purposefully put in jokes they know will never get past the network so that they don't notice the offensive jokes they do want to put in.


ShikiRyumaho

It’s like haggling on the market or over you contract.


Marik-X-Bakura

Aren’t they like 16-17? You should see what actual teenagers wear


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

They look 16 ish, but they're actually 14.


Endertazer6802

Azula and Ty Lee are 14, Zuko is 16, and Mai is 17.


Ninteblo

It was most likely done to "soften" the censors so they could get the designs that was actually used in the show. I know that some shows would write/plan whatever it was that was intended and then make a 2nd extremely outrageous version to send in first to make it easier to get the actual intended thing to pass through, Animaniacs was sorta infamous for doing that.


Massive_Resolve6888

Edit: I just said they dont look that age and I got down voted, people here is schizophrenic


MooOfFury

That doesn't mean it's a good trope. In fact its not a good trope. Im iust gonna say it.


Dakduif51

I think it's the opposite tho. They are 14yo kids in the show, but they don't look 14. They look way older than my 14yo niece does, heck if you told me they'd be 18 I'd also believe you if I hadn't seen the show. Not saying this is good, but drawing kids in a sexual manner and saying they're a 120yo dragon is kinda worse than saying a kid is 14 and drawing them like they're way older imo. Both are bad, just not equally bad.


hotfreshchowder

yeah, also drawing a 14 year old character in a sexualized way is creepy but that's nothing like sexualizing an actual underaged actress


KurohiReiboku

I agree in most cases especially how it is portrayed in Japanese media, but I enjoy when being trapped in a young body is a curse like Let the Right One In or Interview with a Vampire. It's displayed as what it is: horrific, pedophilic, and a depraved act of vanity and hubris the likes of which would make Dorian Grey blush as they're punished for transgressions against the natural laws of growth and decay via entropy.


kiwidude4

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Massive_Resolve6888

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Snailpics

Are you saying they crossed a line drawing them too sexy in the first place or that they crossed a line by making them less sexy? They are in fact children


TwistederRope

Hey everyone, all comments that are deleted from u/ cuspan because he threw a bitch fit that nobody agreed with him wanting trying to hide his lust of underage characters in sexy swimsuits with "it freedum uf EXPRESHON!" To those that missed the posts, consider yourself lucky. I read them before he went full super salt 3 and got rid of them and I felt like I needed to take a shower; that's how fucking sleazy they were.


Ivy_Adair

Ewwwwww. I’m so glad I missed it. 🤮


TwistederRope

Normally I like to share what people said when they delete their posts to try to find out in the fuck around phase, but not this time.


bcbfalcon

Supposedly they wanted give the teens swimsuits that teenagers would actually wear, but knew Nick would reject it. So they purposely gave a design that was way too skimpy so the real design wouldn't be rejected. If that actually happened and the reason is true, I think it's good. As we know, kids television execs are super conservative. Think of the LGBT stuff in cartoons that has to be done subtly or at the very end of the show (Korra, Adventure Time, SU).


ethman14

The South Park Method. The first few seasons of South Park, Stone and Parker said they wrote the episodes basically X rated, so that when they were inevitably rejected they could tone it down to the level they wanted and have it be accepted as "fixed". I wonder how many shows do this, but with other content.


Electro522

I don't think it's just the film industry, but just a common business practice. Determine what you want, ask for WAY too much that will obviously be denied by anyone and everyone, then ask for what you actually want as a means to "fix" the previous request. I believe you call that social engineering.


15092023

It's called Anchoring and it's part of social engineering / sales. It works the same in discounts. This $99.99 is 99.99% off and now is just 98 cents, what a great deal! What is it? Something actually worth 59 cents - very few people would pay $100 for that, but many more people will buy it because they think someone else would pay $100 for it. Make the buyer feel smart for giving you money.


That-Sandy-Arab

In their doc they mention the first few seasons are Yo Gabba Gabba compared to what they make now Was this in part due to rejected X rated plots? TIL!


radioactivecowz

Team America did a similar thing with the puppet sex scene, making it so outlandish with the intent of toning it down


jdeo1997

Classic censor decoy, make a situation or thing look worse/more risqué to the censors so that they'll approve the ideal one instead. Works 9 times out of 10. The 10th time is the censors approving of the decoy


kelldricked

Its wild that Nick cares so much about cartoons but then also had shows like victorious, icarly and a few others. In which they actually had fucking teens getting sexualized….


slide_into_my_BM

Amanda Show had a character with the last name of “Taint.”


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

Honestly, that's not bad at all compared to girls pouring ketchup on their feet.


slide_into_my_BM

Or Ariana grande jerking off a potato


Different-Island1871

At that time, maybe. But then you get some like She-Ra: Princess of Lesbians and her gang. NONE of which are subtle.


RecommendsMalazan

>Think of the LGBT stuff in cartoons that has to be done subtly or at the very end of the show (Korra, Adventure Time, SU). To be fair, Nick never said anything about LGBT stuff in Korra. Bryke thought they would and didn't bother actually trying more.


cuspan

I'm surprised by how prudish everyone in the comments is being.


Metalloid_Space

Not wanting people to creep on teenage girls is not "prudish." Don't try to give this a "progressive" spin.


nothinkybrainhurty

dude, the costumes they have are fine, why are you so obsessed with underage characters getting skimpier swimsuits?


Artificial_Human_17

They’re fucking teenagers!


FrisianTanker

My brother in perversion, these are children. I am a fucking perv too and like sexy animated characters and R34 for them, but these are still children, even if drawn. Get yo weird ass creepy child sexualization outta here and maybe look for some therapy against your urges.


DOOMFOOL

What the fuck are you talking about


sullivanbri966

I actually thought Ty Lee’s swimsuit was way too sexy as it is.


Mallardguy5675322

She is too much for her age. When I was 14, I thought she was 17 at least.


Hayabusa003

Yeah I grew up thinking that azulas gang and zuko were like 17ish and the gang were the young ones


That-Sandy-Arab

Yeah I always thought this was cannon Zuko even calls Aang just a kid a few times


Johnny_Thunder314

Hold up is this not true? How old are they?


Ocanom

Zuko is 16, Mai is 15, Azula and Ty Lee are 14.


Ok_Habit_6783

I mean... they kinda are. Zuko is 16, iirc Mai is also 16. Azula is 15, Ty Lee is 14, Sokka is 15, Katara is 14, and Aang is ~~112~~12. So while technically they are older on average, it's still an age range of 12-16 or 4 years.


MasterCheese163

None of the characters really look their age. All of them seem 2 years older at least.


YesWomansLand1

Yeah it's definitely pushing it for a children's cartoon.


AveryLazyCovfefe

If that was the 'improved' one. Then i absolutely *do not* want to see what Bryan suggested initially.


gumption_11

I also thought that scene with Katara bathing under the cliff in The Bandit episode was pushing it as well. She's 14. Those two scenes were my only qualms with what was otherwise a perfect show. Glad it's being talked about.


sullivanbri966

Katara’s Fire Nation outfit was also pushing it for an everyday outfit.


gumption_11

Her Fire Nation outfit? Haha sorry, not sure if I agree with you there & I'm not a crop top girlie myself. I suppose if you read into it, but it's never occurred to me personally


sullivanbri966

I’m just saying that a kid’s show shouldn’t be promoting teenagers wearing crop tops.


Piney_Moist_Wires

Just give it up OP, every fucking comment you make is downvoted into oblivion AND you're also a weirdo who wants to see characters meant to represent kids in revealing clothes


Pokemaster131

I saw the post, scrolled a few comments, and was very relieved that most people had the same reaction I did.


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Piney_Moist_Wires

They're unpopular for a reason mate


aaronrandango2

Wish Nick kept that energy with Dan


that_metal_dude

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0megaManZero

Ok this is funny I’m keeping this


AnonDooDoo

Actually they purposely drew a version that was too racy because they wanted Nick to choose an already racy design but it’s less so. That’s the one we got.


KerianKakan

I like how they were in the show, though. It's a good breath of air when you see so many oversexualized teenagers in anime. The episode takes the whole beach episode and flips it on its head


0megaManZero

I mean their kids… Sooooo… OP is there something you would like to say? 🤨


Mischief_Actual

Wait…the designs released were the *redraw*?? Good lord…


CaitlinSnep

They drew a deliberately over-the-top pitch initially so they *could* use the designs we actually got.


Robotic_Samurai

This is the most likely answer


ominoushandpuppet

Are you mad at Nickelodeon because the cartoon children were not sexy enough for you? Are you a religious leader?


0megaManZero

Reading the ops replies in the comments… Yea they are definitely a pedophile… And I am uncomfortable with him in this sub… Anyone else or just me…?


Mallardguy5675322

I can smell those “cupcakes” from miles away in this comment section.


Cautious_Tax_7171

They’re minors


Avixofsol

are you trying to say you wanted the children to be sexier?


Outside_Proposal7966

Rare Nickelodeon W


ghirox

really? are we saying that we wanted to sexualize minors?


AveryLazyCovfefe

over 600 upvotes. What's wrong with the community.


Ok_Habit_6783

Originally reading the meme, I assumed op was a decent person and was criticizing the original designs, which is why I upvoted. I quickly took it back after reading the comments and seeing op was a pedophile


HeMansSmallerCousin

Eww...


RichEvans4Ever

I’d tell OP to check out Quiet On Set, but he’d enjoy it for the wrong reasons.🫤


manofathousandnames

The alternate timeline where they made ATLA for adult swim instead would be Wild man. Keep in mind, this would also result in the aging up of the characters into their teens/20's.


oceonix

Damn, this is one way to come out as a pedo


ChampionshipHorror95

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Codeviper828

This pic made my skin crawl


Aok_al

They were 14 year olds....


thehollisterman

In the (small and weak) defense of this guy. With how powerful the bending of the main characters is, it can be easy to forget that the older characters are still only 16 or so.


YesWomansLand1

Azula particularly, she looks and acts WAY older than she is. Still. No excuse.


thehollisterman

Like I said. Its a weak defense.


Ok_Habit_6783

Ah the trauma effect. Although tbf, she very much acts like a socially inept 14 year old in the episode where she's wearing a swimsuit. Hell, all of them act like the children they are in this specific episode. So this defense isn't even just weak, it's non-existent LMAO


traumatized90skid

OP you're wrong... Like the show is on a network for kids and usually was rated TV-7. You're acting like they were out of line by asking them to tone down the sexualized depictions of minors. And the anime style filler beach stuff felt weird and out of place in such an otherwise serious show anyhow... Like did we need volleyball, it felt weirdly too modern and took me out of it a bit. The show is about magic and martial arts, we didn't need beach volleyball.


thisremindsmeofbacon

thats gonna be a yikes from me dawg


Roge2005

Horny today aren’t we? And also it’s just swimsuits, it doesn’t matter which ones they have on this kind of show, and then ones that ended up in the show are fine.


Magnapyritor2

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_ROCC

not this guy again


Mallardguy5675322

It took me a second to get it. Now I get it. At least u/_I_Am-Groot- ‘s shit post memes give me a chuckle sometimes. This mf is just plain weird.


KOFdude

Avatar fans when they can't see 14 year olds wearing over-revealing outfits


Inventor_E-T-Han

I'm guessing 22 Terabytes


Tinyworkerdrone

I actually have no desire to crank it to Avatar


jdeo1997

1) The initial drawings were a censor decoy so they could get the actual designs they wanted approved 2) OP, why don't you have a seat over there


Mr-Kuritsa

Does OP want some cookies? Ty Lee baked them herself


SilentBlade45

I heard the creators knew if they gave them more modest swimsuits to start with the network would have made them tone it down even more so they made the super skimpy designs on purpose so when nick did make them change it they could get close to the original designs they wanted.


Errances

That's very rich comming from the people who worked with Dan Schneider . I guess people always cared more for pixels and ink than actual children


CamperKuzey

Yeah bro I agree why didn't we get Iroh and Ozai oiled up twerk off


EmberedCutie

porn addict


Successful-Pop-4216

I wonder what’s on ur hard drive


DCAUBeyond

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Negative-Curvature

Er, idk man... Church might not be the thing this time given it's history with children


Chef_Sizzlipede

too sexy? they looked hot as is are we to assume bryke had them in practical strings before? wtf bryke. btw before people look at me weirdly, I'm saying this from the perspective of someone years younger than me, I ain't lookin' to smash 14-16 year olds.


Avrelo

Evil doing good baby. Evil doing good. . .


Epicdudewhoisepic

I think the story goes that they wanted to use the designs we know in the first place, but they thought that Nick wouldn’t approve, so they pitched way more revealing outfits, wich of course got rejected. Then they introduced the actual designs, wich seemed much more tame by comparison.


ivadtutto

I don’t ever wanna see your browser history if this is the type of avatar meme content you find funny


JonBovi_0

Was Dan Schneider on the team at that time?


Hammarkids

they are children.


Bulduskl

They're fkn children


Mx-Adrian

Okay, but the way they s\*xualised children is a big issue. We had a whole scene shot down a child's cleavage. That was disgusting.


AveryLazyCovfefe

And that was the 'improved' design Nick pushed for. I can only imagine how much worse Bryan's designs were. What was wrong with him 😭


Liam_theman2099

Wait WHAT?! Where? Was it Katara reacting to Sokka and Toph’s conversation about her being motherly?


Mx-Adrian

Do you not remember the Fire Nation kids at the beach?


Liam_theman2099

What, those little kids that made a sandcastle until it got smushed by Azula? I think you’re a little carried away.


Mx-Adrian

 Are you being serious?  No, Ty Lee. 


Liam_theman2099

Oh her. Back then, I didn’t notice it. Nowadays, yeah I start to see it. I guess a take from it: Just be careful when you’re on the line of appealing character and…fanservice character.


Metalloid_Space

Yeah, that's fair. I think what we got is pretty good honestly.


Liam_theman2099

Oh her? Huh, I didn’t notice it at first. Alright then…


silence-glaive1

So wait, were they more revealing before? Ty Lee’s bikini was pretty revealing for a teenage girl in a “kids” cartoon.


wormmster

Aren’t they like 12 or some shit?


Grzechoooo

They are literally children.


Cindy-Moon

I feel like if i ask if we ever saw the originals I'm just going to get 🤨🤨🤨'd but I'm wondering this as a point of comparison like do we know what Nick turned down?


SophiaIsBased

They're children...


Marleyzard

In another universe there's real life children who watched an episode of Nick-sanctioned TV that deadass had loli erotica, ain't no way


Angelfallfirst

Ew


Sektore

Nick: we will tell you cartoons are too sexy but we’ll sexually abuse and Destroy our human actors


cheshsky

Broski those are minors. You don't get to complain about how Nick asked ppl to please redesign teens' beach fits so that they don't look too revealing in a weird way without making yourself look like a kiddie fiddler.


theburnix

Wait a damn minute minors too sexy for Nick‽ They were OK with Dan Schneider being that massive of a creep, how are they pretending to have principles


Valkyrie_Dohtriz

Honestly, I rather like the designs we ended up with ☺️ it feels fitting for the world while still being pleasing to the eyes


GaryRegalsMuscleCar

Bruh


ngl_prettybad

Those fuckers stopped Korrasami. They can all burn in hell.


dragonmorg

I'm pretty sure I heard in an interview of the creators that they drew them overly sexy so that Nickelodeon would be more accepting of normal swimsuits teenagers would realistically wear to the beach. Like, doing it to an excessive point, knowing they'd say no, because if they showed them what they actually wanted, they'd make them cover them up more than what we got.


Nyxosaurus

I don't see the problem, but then again, I haven't seen what his first attempts were (what we saw in the ep looked fine to me) so I'm going to side with Nick on this. Rare for them to have standards. With the Nick track record, they'd probably have to have been VERY suggestive, right?


DietDrBleach

Hey I found Dan Schnieder’s Reddit account


thatHecklerOverThere

Nickelodeon said "it's not _that_ 'anime' guys, come on".


NY-Black-Dragon

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RexIsAMiiCostume

Huh??? They are pretty "sexy" as they are now. If they were any more sexy, that would be incredibly weird.


Delicious-Orchid-447

Why is this a problem the final designs are great


Heroright

Say sike.


cuspan

sike


ProphetofTables

You do realize that they're kids, right?


MeetApprehensive6509

Need I remind y’all that azula is 14, ty lee is 12, & Mai is 14……


SnagTheRabbit

I love that Nick specifically said "too sexy." Not "too inappropriate" or "revealing." The wording implies even they were down bad.


skeletonTV123

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ManInTheMirror2

That’s a chonky crow


Cultural_Fuel1696

What’s the ATLA equivalent meme of Palpatine saying “ironic” gif?


ArmoredAnkha

Alright, so we know OP is most likely a fan of made in abyss and most likely uses the argument "They're drawings"


ManInTheMirror2

I wholeheartedly agree… Avatar deserved to air on toonami… Right before Naruto


Dglaky

This seems really reasonable to me. They're kids in a show for kids


Lamest_Ever

Suspicious, these are children and you are upset they werent drawn sexily


PsychWard_8

Brother they're children wtf


The-Great-Memelord

r/goodanimemes user spotted https://preview.redd.it/lmv3nt0m6twc1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2d00059d120b88a20acd3c805f9b7c52e21d82a


Haunting-Ganache-281

Hey fbi? Check this guys hard drives please, those are children


ScoutTrooper501st

They’re teenagers….theyre literally all teenagers


AdCompetitive5427

Before everyone starts yelling that they're kids, keep in mind that there are scenes in season 1 with Aang in nothing but his bear underwater. Sokka too. I thought their swim suits are just fine the way they are. It's not like they were 12 and needed a tube top and shorts like Toph was wearing.


Metalloid_Space

You're not reading it correctly: it's saying they were more naked before. What we got are the more covered up versions.


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Metalloid_Space

Most people don't have a huge problem with their swimsuits, their problem is with your insistence that they should have been showing more skin. And let's be fair: their swimsuits as is are basically underwear.


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Metalloid_Space

Your meme says the version we got crossed a line. Why?


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TheGupper

Are there any better examples of this you could have chosen instead of this particular instance?


Metalloid_Space

Why? In our culture nudity and sexualisation are strongly associated with eachother. Everything in art is a concious choice, so there's a point at which we'd say: "Yeah, that's too sexual to be applied to children." right? I don't think the redrawn versions went that far considering that they're meant to be around 14 years old.


costaccounting

Release the DeMartino Cut!


yotam5434

Yes I wish we can take it away from them same with spongebob they ruin shows with over protectivenes and for kids bullish


cheshsky

Yeah sure let's just not have kids shows be for kids. It's terrible how kids shows are made to be appropriate for children. That'd save kids TV, make it truly great.


yotam5434

Bruh what? The for kids definition went to far


cheshsky

Have you, like, watched any kids TV recently?


yotam5434

Yes and some I'd rather due before letting a kid watch stuff is to childish in to conservative like no let's shoe kids only gois stuff without action and without high stakes or actual plot


cheshsky

Have you considered that maybe you should just stop watching Bluey?


yotam5434

Actually funny you bring up Bluey it's one of the few exceptions to what I said and I love this show


cheshsky

Very high stakes much action


Capable_Cheesecake22

Dont think we’re gonna get a beach scene in netflix avatar either, ozais weightwatchers gonna get roasted