Ginger? I use it in my (male) sub's bums. It apparently burns a little but isn't harmful. Look up 'figging' for more info. Haven't tried myself but I thought it worth a mention
Came here to suggest figging as well. You just have to check the ginger first and make sure it's spicy. Sometimes they're old and not very potent at the grocery.
"Fun" fact... This is also done on saddlebred horses in some show classes for them to hold their tail up high which is desired by judges. They are holding their tail up cuz their asshole burns like hell and they are reacting to it o.O
They only do this to the horse to win.
If you want to be shocked to all hell on other things in the horse world.. one of the more brutal things people do to Tennessee walking horses is called "soring" or "the big lick"... Supposed to be illegal however it is still very very common in the US as judges reward this walk. Not giving two fucks the horror the horses deal with to get them to do it.
Again, this is done so people can win.
People suck.
>If you want to be shocked to all hell on other things in the horse world.. one of the more brutal things people do to Tennessee walking horses is called "soring" or "the big lick"... Supposed to be illegal however it is still very very common in the US
The big lick? Is that where they lick the penis?
I have a friend who tried it on his wife's v. This is what he said. "For those considering trying this - apparently the ginger paste creates a wonderful set of contractions that lasts about half an hour after application."
I remember buying that with my very first boyfriend years ago. We saw it and it said “intensifies sensation” and thought that sounded pretty good, and then it burned like a motherfucker LOL
I had a severe allergic response to that stuff and my vulva swelled up significantly I had get a urinary catheter in the hospital so I could urinate. It was awfullll
I bought that, or something similar, 15 years ago. I remember using it and then staying awake crying all night because it felt exactly like having a UTI. And it lasted a long time.....
Well, nothing is going to be 100% safe, i don’t think the rats in the labs are testing this stuff.
If they are prone to uti’s or generally any funky thing going on down there, absolutely do not use anything.
Toothpaste, hot sauce, tiger balm, ice.. done them all, no negative side effects.
Be aware, anything in her, will also be down your pee hole.. that will be a bigger problem.
A fist? It's not quite a burn, but after fisting, I find that PIV is more friction-y, like as though every single nerve ending is a little raw and standing on end.
Not sure the specifics of the limit but another alternative could be an inflatable plug?
If the hard limit is “no large insertions” then it’s a no go, but personally I LOVE being stretched out but can’t take a fist yet and an inflatable plug has been a game changer for my personal and interpersonal sex life
Google sizzling cinnamon lube - I’m not in US (not sure if you are either) [here’s a US site I found that sells it](https://www.pinkcherry.com/products/sizzle-warming-lubricant?_pos=1&_sid=5d7c9e9df&_ss=r)
A small completely round ball of ice, preferably bottle water New, to prevent storage plastic deteriorating that could store on water.
If the ice have texture or Edge it will cut you or your partner, it's important to start small since ice could do freeze burns and since it may not be easy recoverable, small start will help to complete melt inside you rather quickly to prove feeling and gradually try bigger ice Balls
Another safety tip would be to use a abs quirúrgico silicon pallette to create a Popsicle round ice ball for easy recover but this may need a bigger ball and there is a risk of the ice breaking creating Sharp edges if moved.
I will say I've had sex after putting ice in a partner's vagina multiple times and had no problems staying hard. It's cooler than usual but with all the excitement going on there's so much heat built up that everything warms back up pretty quickly 😆
You could have sex while the ice ball still inside, the friction and movement will accelerate the melting process, or you could wait until it's melted and proceed to have sex.
The ice will produce for her the burn/hurt effect with little to no permanent damage if done correctly and progressively.
Regarding the erection process, I've it's usually use to reduce erection in clinical setting but usually when an involuntary erection occurs, so if there is no stimulus it will reduce and prevent any further erection if still in contact with the cold surface.
But in a sexual environment with a sexual stimulus and not direct and maintain contact covering the full length of your penis, it should maintain the erection, as well your friction with water base lube will rapidly increase your partner vagina/anus.
Yes of course it would be a freeze burn, that why the size it's so important as stated on the first comment, when progressively increase size you get to understand the feeling with no damage since it will melt in less than 60s, and from that point of you could increase Little by little to understand you own limit and prevent a freeze burn, or control how much freeze burn you or your partner would like to have by increasing the size so it could take up to 5min (10min depending on size) to melt.
The reality is that any substances should be checked first for a reaction. Different people react differently, so there could be an allergy or an extreme sensitivity, so it should be tested in a small amount first. Once it is on your skin, you can't get it off easily if the person reacts and that is even more so the case if internally.
Capsaicin is the chemical that makes peppers hot. Different peppers have different heat and a little bit of contact can cause a lot of reaction with hotter peppers and more sensitive spots.
Ginger is also an option, just be aware of the strings and the potential for it to poke depending on how it has been treated.
Be aware that not everything is a good idea internally, just because people have used it and not themself had an issue.
There’s lube that feels like burning. I once found one brand that came in like a little ball that you put inside your vagina and it dissolved with heat. I think it was call Brazilian balls or something like that.
My hubby tried the ginger on me and I’m pretty good with my pain level and I tapped out in under 10 minutes. It was very intense. He must of gotten a fresh piece at the grocery lol
Chili peppers do the job and don't cause any physical damage. I handle a lot of super hot chilis because I make my own spice blends but it seriously takes days to wash off the capcaisan residue which causes a burning sensations any mucuosal tissue it contacts(genitals included), my partner definitely notices.
Toothpaste perhaps? I know we're not meant to ingest it, but it's definitely safe for mucous membranes...
I would second figging as it is much easier to remove when you're done.
Also, stinging nettles if you have access to them would work. Test elsewhere first obviously if you're new to it.
Stinging nettle is delicious and also a great sensation play tool. I've attended kink workshops on it, so it's definitely not as strange as your suggesting.
Also many people consider toothpaste on the genitals to be less intense than figging or tiger balm.
I think you and I just have different experiences in bdsm. I found your "goddamn." and "wtf" to be unnecessarily alarmist.
Probably just a lack of understanding and innocent ignorance. I wouldn't be upset with anyone over a click. It's just a measure of opinions and having a minority opinion doesn't make it inherently bad.
Plus... If it was because they were incited, they would have said something, like yourself.
You can't. You're literally asking what chemical reaction can I cause to cause a burning or hurting sensation. This sensation is caused by CELLS BEING DESTROYED.
NO to tiger balm. It is capcasin, a high end pepper, in a petroleum base. You can’t get rid of the burn when you’re ready. It permeates every pore and is not safe for mucous membranes. Just trust that I made this mistake so you don’t have to.
Lots of people have used Tiger Balm. I had a gf many years ago who loved to have a bit dabbed on her. It isn't right for a lot of people, but some 'like' it.
Tiger balm - they make it hot and cold (red and white versions). Also biofreeze, but it takes a while to feel and then lasts a very long time intensely
Sounds fun, but that's not as safe as it sounds.
The instructions to keep that stuff away from areas with mucus membranes (eyes, mouth, genitals, etc) aren't just there to prevent pain.
Salicylic acid can get into your body through those mucus membranes and poison you.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4786239/
This information is not relevant, since neither tiger balm nor biofreeze contain methylsalicytate, which is found in bengay at 30%. And the team who used breakfast to masterbate used an entire tube of it.
It is always good to do research, but this information is not relevant.
There is one study i just looked up that indicated that menthol peoducts could in rare cases cause a burn, so consider this RACK. But I would say anytime you use any product inside your vagina to cause burning you are risking some adverse consequences and it is always RACK.
Funny how you’re so confidently correcting someone with improper info. Note that many tiger balm products do, in fact, contain methyl salicylate.
per the [company’s website](https://www.tigerbalm.com/us/ingredients/):
> METHYL SALICYLATE
> Methyl Salicylate can be found in our Liniment and all of our Active products. It is used to temporarily relieve muscle or joint pain, arthritis, bruising, and backaches. It can also be used for pre-sport warm-up and after sport as well.
Also re: the case study of the 14y.o. with scrotal damage, the author noted this is the first case reported of systemic damage from using MS on the genitals. It wasn’t actually damaging to other patients beyond localized irritation and swelling. Not that this makes it a good idea…
I stand corrected. But again, it's not listed as a main ingredient, which means that the amount involved is small. Anytime you put anything near your mucous membranes you are taking a risk, which is why I said it is rack
Tiger balm definitely has methyl salicylate, but frankly I can't blame you for mixing that up.
These creams and salves have so many different irritants in them that it's difficult to research and keep track of all the risks.
This is a huge part of why I generally advocate choosing *just one irritant* that you are highly educated about instead of a pre-made mixture.
srce: https://www.tigerbalm.com/us/ingredients/
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Ginger? I use it in my (male) sub's bums. It apparently burns a little but isn't harmful. Look up 'figging' for more info. Haven't tried myself but I thought it worth a mention
Came here to suggest figging as well. You just have to check the ginger first and make sure it's spicy. Sometimes they're old and not very potent at the grocery.
So start with old, grocery ginger before progressing to the spicy stuff?
the lining of the anus is way different than the lining of the vagina...
A quick look online confirms it is safe for vaginas too :)
"Fun" fact... This is also done on saddlebred horses in some show classes for them to hold their tail up high which is desired by judges. They are holding their tail up cuz their asshole burns like hell and they are reacting to it o.O They only do this to the horse to win. If you want to be shocked to all hell on other things in the horse world.. one of the more brutal things people do to Tennessee walking horses is called "soring" or "the big lick"... Supposed to be illegal however it is still very very common in the US as judges reward this walk. Not giving two fucks the horror the horses deal with to get them to do it. Again, this is done so people can win. People suck.
The term figging comes from the equine world.
I'm aware.
>If you want to be shocked to all hell on other things in the horse world.. one of the more brutal things people do to Tennessee walking horses is called "soring" or "the big lick"... Supposed to be illegal however it is still very very common in the US The big lick? Is that where they lick the penis?
I have a friend who tried it on his wife's v. This is what he said. "For those considering trying this - apparently the ginger paste creates a wonderful set of contractions that lasts about half an hour after application."
KY used to make fire and ice lube.
I remember buying that with my very first boyfriend years ago. We saw it and it said “intensifies sensation” and thought that sounded pretty good, and then it burned like a motherfucker LOL
I had a severe allergic response to that stuff and my vulva swelled up significantly I had get a urinary catheter in the hospital so I could urinate. It was awfullll
Yeah, I'm deffo avoiding those types of products. 😭
I bought that, or something similar, 15 years ago. I remember using it and then staying awake crying all night because it felt exactly like having a UTI. And it lasted a long time.....
That's what I was thinking about, do they not make those kinds anymore?
Well, nothing is going to be 100% safe, i don’t think the rats in the labs are testing this stuff. If they are prone to uti’s or generally any funky thing going on down there, absolutely do not use anything. Toothpaste, hot sauce, tiger balm, ice.. done them all, no negative side effects. Be aware, anything in her, will also be down your pee hole.. that will be a bigger problem.
That’s what condoms are for
A fist? It's not quite a burn, but after fisting, I find that PIV is more friction-y, like as though every single nerve ending is a little raw and standing on end.
That could work but that’s a hard limit
That's perfectly reasonable!
Not sure the specifics of the limit but another alternative could be an inflatable plug? If the hard limit is “no large insertions” then it’s a no go, but personally I LOVE being stretched out but can’t take a fist yet and an inflatable plug has been a game changer for my personal and interpersonal sex life
They make lube that burns
Do you have a brand or type?
Google sizzling cinnamon lube - I’m not in US (not sure if you are either) [here’s a US site I found that sells it](https://www.pinkcherry.com/products/sizzle-warming-lubricant?_pos=1&_sid=5d7c9e9df&_ss=r)
A small completely round ball of ice, preferably bottle water New, to prevent storage plastic deteriorating that could store on water. If the ice have texture or Edge it will cut you or your partner, it's important to start small since ice could do freeze burns and since it may not be easy recoverable, small start will help to complete melt inside you rather quickly to prove feeling and gradually try bigger ice Balls Another safety tip would be to use a abs quirúrgico silicon pallette to create a Popsicle round ice ball for easy recover but this may need a bigger ball and there is a risk of the ice breaking creating Sharp edges if moved.
So once cold then have sex? Wouldn’t the cock not stay as hard if the vagina is cold?
I will say I've had sex after putting ice in a partner's vagina multiple times and had no problems staying hard. It's cooler than usual but with all the excitement going on there's so much heat built up that everything warms back up pretty quickly 😆
You could have sex while the ice ball still inside, the friction and movement will accelerate the melting process, or you could wait until it's melted and proceed to have sex. The ice will produce for her the burn/hurt effect with little to no permanent damage if done correctly and progressively. Regarding the erection process, I've it's usually use to reduce erection in clinical setting but usually when an involuntary erection occurs, so if there is no stimulus it will reduce and prevent any further erection if still in contact with the cold surface. But in a sexual environment with a sexual stimulus and not direct and maintain contact covering the full length of your penis, it should maintain the erection, as well your friction with water base lube will rapidly increase your partner vagina/anus.
Ice directly on skin for periods of time can definitely cause damage
Yes of course it would be a freeze burn, that why the size it's so important as stated on the first comment, when progressively increase size you get to understand the feeling with no damage since it will melt in less than 60s, and from that point of you could increase Little by little to understand you own limit and prevent a freeze burn, or control how much freeze burn you or your partner would like to have by increasing the size so it could take up to 5min (10min depending on size) to melt.
Kama sutra pleasure balm
The reality is that any substances should be checked first for a reaction. Different people react differently, so there could be an allergy or an extreme sensitivity, so it should be tested in a small amount first. Once it is on your skin, you can't get it off easily if the person reacts and that is even more so the case if internally. Capsaicin is the chemical that makes peppers hot. Different peppers have different heat and a little bit of contact can cause a lot of reaction with hotter peppers and more sensitive spots. Ginger is also an option, just be aware of the strings and the potential for it to poke depending on how it has been treated. Be aware that not everything is a good idea internally, just because people have used it and not themself had an issue.
There’s lube that feels like burning. I once found one brand that came in like a little ball that you put inside your vagina and it dissolved with heat. I think it was call Brazilian balls or something like that.
Thank you
Ginger....🫠Please be safe.
My hubby tried the ginger on me and I’m pretty good with my pain level and I tapped out in under 10 minutes. It was very intense. He must of gotten a fresh piece at the grocery lol
Jalapeño will cause a heat, for sure.
Chili peppers do the job and don't cause any physical damage. I handle a lot of super hot chilis because I make my own spice blends but it seriously takes days to wash off the capcaisan residue which causes a burning sensations any mucuosal tissue it contacts(genitals included), my partner definitely notices.
OP don't do this. This is a one way ticket to a PAINFUL UTI and/or yeast infection.
Icy hot or tiger balm? (No idea if it’s safe though). Maybe capsaicin powder?
capsaicin powder that shit ok any mucous membrane is the worst pain imaginable
Toothpaste perhaps? I know we're not meant to ingest it, but it's definitely safe for mucous membranes... I would second figging as it is much easier to remove when you're done. Also, stinging nettles if you have access to them would work. Test elsewhere first obviously if you're new to it.
> toothpaste i see your logic here, but goddamn. > stinging nettle bro wtf??
Stinging nettle is delicious and also a great sensation play tool. I've attended kink workshops on it, so it's definitely not as strange as your suggesting. Also many people consider toothpaste on the genitals to be less intense than figging or tiger balm. I think you and I just have different experiences in bdsm. I found your "goddamn." and "wtf" to be unnecessarily alarmist.
so why was that guy downvoted then)
Probably just a lack of understanding and innocent ignorance. I wouldn't be upset with anyone over a click. It's just a measure of opinions and having a minority opinion doesn't make it inherently bad. Plus... If it was because they were incited, they would have said something, like yourself.
>bro wtf?? It really isn't that unusual. A little niche, maybe, but not unheard of.
You can't. You're literally asking what chemical reaction can I cause to cause a burning or hurting sensation. This sensation is caused by CELLS BEING DESTROYED.
There used to be a good lube with cinnamon that worked good
Blistex. I can’t guarantee it’s safe, but I’ve tried it several times with no problems.
Wasabi.
Isn’t there a high risk of infection with that?
Do NOT stick food in the vagina. Every food product has a HIGH risk of UTI and/or yeast infection
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-1525/wasabi
Why?
Bc it is food?
Ok, What about tiger 🐅 balm?
No idea that’s why I’m asking here
NO to tiger balm. It is capcasin, a high end pepper, in a petroleum base. You can’t get rid of the burn when you’re ready. It permeates every pore and is not safe for mucous membranes. Just trust that I made this mistake so you don’t have to.
Lots of people have used Tiger Balm. I had a gf many years ago who loved to have a bit dabbed on her. It isn't right for a lot of people, but some 'like' it.
Agree with that and I know people who have used wasabi.
Tiger balm - they make it hot and cold (red and white versions). Also biofreeze, but it takes a while to feel and then lasts a very long time intensely
Sounds fun, but that's not as safe as it sounds. The instructions to keep that stuff away from areas with mucus membranes (eyes, mouth, genitals, etc) aren't just there to prevent pain. Salicylic acid can get into your body through those mucus membranes and poison you. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4786239/
This information is not relevant, since neither tiger balm nor biofreeze contain methylsalicytate, which is found in bengay at 30%. And the team who used breakfast to masterbate used an entire tube of it. It is always good to do research, but this information is not relevant. There is one study i just looked up that indicated that menthol peoducts could in rare cases cause a burn, so consider this RACK. But I would say anytime you use any product inside your vagina to cause burning you are risking some adverse consequences and it is always RACK.
Funny how you’re so confidently correcting someone with improper info. Note that many tiger balm products do, in fact, contain methyl salicylate. per the [company’s website](https://www.tigerbalm.com/us/ingredients/): > METHYL SALICYLATE > Methyl Salicylate can be found in our Liniment and all of our Active products. It is used to temporarily relieve muscle or joint pain, arthritis, bruising, and backaches. It can also be used for pre-sport warm-up and after sport as well. Also re: the case study of the 14y.o. with scrotal damage, the author noted this is the first case reported of systemic damage from using MS on the genitals. It wasn’t actually damaging to other patients beyond localized irritation and swelling. Not that this makes it a good idea…
I stand corrected. But again, it's not listed as a main ingredient, which means that the amount involved is small. Anytime you put anything near your mucous membranes you are taking a risk, which is why I said it is rack
Tiger balm definitely has methyl salicylate, but frankly I can't blame you for mixing that up. These creams and salves have so many different irritants in them that it's difficult to research and keep track of all the risks. This is a huge part of why I generally advocate choosing *just one irritant* that you are highly educated about instead of a pre-made mixture. srce: https://www.tigerbalm.com/us/ingredients/