If it's on video then it must be true. I also hear that if you order a P1S right now they'll send you either an X1C, a PS1(PlayStation) or a Lamborghini. I've just maxed out every one of my credit cards with the P1S orders because I like them odds.
> If it's on video then it must be true.
You think they went to the trouble of making such a nice replica of a bambu build plate only smaller just to lie for a video?
If it's a cheap/affordable multi colour printer then it's good to bring more new people into the 3D printing space.
I personally won't buy anything that small since I already own 2 P1Ps but it can be interesting for many people. It would be crazy if it's a 400 euro/dollar multi color printer.
I'd say 90% of my prints are smaller so a smaller unit might be ok BUT I do use the AMS sometimes. I think though, I would still rather have matching X1C's and will probably buy a second one after the launch if MicroCenter lowers the price.
Same here. I'm considering using my X1C to build a huge Voron at some point in the future, a 500x500 build plate would be a game changer for functional prints
Most people I saw were speculating some kind of attachment for the ams to non Bambu printers. I thought that was funny because Bambu wants you to buy their printers. Also non Bambu printers don't have a poop shoot.
Yes. I replied to one of those that it would just be smaller more entry-level. If the above is true, looks like that's what it is. They want a wider audience and, unlike Apple, they realise a lower end option is the way to get there
I'm actually somewhat relieved that it looks like it's going to be a smaller printer. I put an order yesterday for a X1C combo and then later in the day read about all the speculation about the reveal for 20 Sep.
It would be quite the hassle to go through if discounts were coming or if the new printer is going to be the next iteration of the X1C š
I believe there was a leaked patent filed for a larger printer but afaik it was called the E series. This is merely speculation because many patent's get filed and never materialize.
They can do both. In one year they released 3 printers and the AMS and are about to announce another machine. They're not stopping after this next one.
I don't get people freaking out about how this leak or maybe the upcoming announcement is not the exact machine they particularly wanted or expected. In about a year, BL has released 3 printers and the AMS and they're about to release more. They're not going to stop after the next printer is announced. They seem to know where the demand is. Fully expect to see both smaller, bigger, cheaper, and costlier printers join the lineup. If they keep up the same pace they have been, it probably won't be long.
iām holding out for two new printers or at least some aftermarket upgrades (the noise cancellation still looks like it could be software ā maybe a retrofit)
apparently the few influencers that received this printer called it āinsaneā and āmind blowingā or something along those lines. i wonder if thereās more to it or if thatās just influencer talk
This. I'd love a Bambu that I can print a giant full size Star WarsĀ® Helmet in. I'd love to put 4 full rolls of the same color in the AMS and just watch a 7 day long print go.
> I'd love to put 4 full rolls of the same color in the AMS and just watch a 7 day long print go.
You can do that already though? Or do you just mean the print size?
If you're lucky you'll see a larger Bambu printer eventually with 400mmx400mm print area but 18" likely isn't happening. That's far into the absurd size for 99% of printers.
I would love a mini X1C ... I might not need the screen but I'd have to figure out a way to address the color change and the filament. If they had a software way to pause, and change the filament manually for a single color transition (like Makerbot Replicators had a pause change filament button) that might be cool. I don't print much multi-color so a smaller X1C type thing I would probaby buy for my commercial prints and the X1C for more experimental stuff. I'd probably keep one with a .2 nozzle on it, and the other .4 also. We will see what happens next week. My credit card is paid off and I am ready lol.
This indeed. Very disappointing to me. I want to buy a Bambu printer because I know it's better, but I feel like my only real choice is the Creality K1 Max. :\
Qidi has 2 for under $1k the Xmax 3 and the XPlus3, which is the one I have. It's bigger (280x280x270) more capable (350C HE 120C bed and 60C chamber) than Bambu and half the price as well as fully open firmware but has the same speed as Bambu
Also it doesn't start printing by itself in the middle of the night damaging itself repeatedly
I would say it's open-source modern tech, has Klipper firmware, accelerometer in print head for input shaping.
Doesn't have LIDAR but it has an auto bed level and a cool dry box that snaps to the outside of the enclosure
There must some AMS equivalent also for the half price for the half-priced xmax/3xplus3, right? And itās probably more than 16 colours cause you are saying they are āmore capableā.
Don't need an AMS when your main business is making actual functional parts that are as strong as aluminum but lighter. Also I can do multiple material parts I just have to use some ingenuity.
Look at my profile for a TPU and PLA combo print that took 10 minutes to draw and 45 minutes total to print
Oh yeah and I can print 95A TPU at 80mm/s so....
Oh yeah, so now you started narrowing down the use case once it is not that āmore capableā. Every task has its tools. When was max3 released? Iām using my x1c since new year.
Gen 3 was released in like April but Qidi realized carbon X-axis rods are shit
They recalled the ones they did sell, redid the machine and made them half price for an apology
I don't print toys so color change is a gimmick
If this is real, which I am skeptical of, the smaller area would still be suitable for a lot of prints. Especially if it became the new entry level at like $400. At some point I do expect to see them release machines cheaper than the P1P.
I get it from a cost/profit standpoint; however, I can't forget the Bambu CEO AMA top question was "when are we getting a large format printer." That was the primary ask by existing customers.
Bigger machine will definitely be more difficult than a smaller, entry level one for a bunch of reasons, and will take more time in R&D and market research. I'm just thinking out loud here but...
A smaller "A" series of machines is simple to imagine. The design and price space is pretty constrained. Smaller volume = less material and easier distribution = lower price. It's a no-brainer to create a lower entry level with hardware and technology trickling down from the higher tiers. The engineering is easier too. If you simply shorten all the lengths of the frame and gantry, the smaller machine will be stiffer. Even higher movement speeds are feasible. Keep the same materials, material dimensions and manufacturing processes.
Going bigger/up market is tougher because it's open-ended. Makes sense to go with the same bed size as the Prusa XL so people don't complain that it's slightly too small. For rigidity, everything needs to get thicker, or prints will be slower. Good chance larger diameter carbon rods would be needed for the X gantry, which means some new engineering on the carriage, the bushings, and the Y-carriages. The frame needs to get a little stiffer, belts wider, motors stronger, etc. Shipping gets a lot more expensive. Pricing is tricky. Too close to the X1C price and you cannibalize it. Too high, also looks bad. Maybe they do a large format with all the bells and whistles at $2000-2500, then stripped down versions priced between it and the X1C, kind of like they did at launch with the X1 and P1P.
That's not how magnets work. Putting the first plate down on top of the magnetic bed channels the magnetic field through it (the plate) so another steel plate on top of it shouldn't stick. If you have 2 build plates, go set one on top of the other on the magnetic surface. The top one will slide just like in the video. I just tried it to confirm.
It might still not be legit, but not for that reason.
Eh, I just got an X1C and started printing out some terrain for table top games. A larger plate would be nice, but what I am running up against is that even running my X1C with a .6 nozzle with the flow jacked as high as the filament allows, it still takes a long time to print things. I really want a second printer so I can do prototyping and printing smaller things while my X1C is chugging along. Thought about getting a P1S, but if they can sell me a smaller printer with the filament changer built into the extruder, I am all ears. Then, when they do come out with their larger one, I'll probably get that as well ;). If the X1C is any indication of their overall product development, I see them making some really good printers of all sizes.
Yeah Bambu clearly not listening and also not paying attention to how slow the XL roll out has been. Bambu could have killed the XL before it even shippedā¦.which it seems not to have done yet.
If true then I expect the smaller printer was both easier to design as well as likely to sell like absolute hot cakes bringing in much more money.
A larger volume is likely coming as well, I wouldn't assume BL are "not listening" because they have released this.
This isn't Prusa.
I don't really have any need for a bigger printer myself, but the trademark application certainly leads me to think they have it in the pipeline. It is just guesswork at this stage of course.
Well Iād gladly take the 200 dollar deposit that Prusa is still holding on to for over a year and turn that over to BL for a large format. Iād do that immediately upon announcement of a large format BL. I guess until then, Creality is the king for large format with their 5+, and thatās really really sad. The 5 plus is a good machine but it feels like it runs on whale oil compared to my fleet of BLs.
There's always Voron and VZbot if you want up to 350mm volume with good quality. As for Creality being the best large scale I was under the impression the Neptune 3 max and flsun v400 were better offerings.
*āWe love Prusa, weāve gained so much from them. But we need to make their printers look like toys in comparison. Total. Market. domination.ā* - Someone probably at Bambu Labs.
Honestly I'd buy one. I've got a P1P and 2 AMS, I'd buy another P1P/P1S but if I could buy a smaller printer that's cheaper and just as reliable instead then im all for having a Bambu mini.
If it's a mini CoreXY like the Voron v0.2, I'd order it pronto. I do 3d printer demonstrations for kids and my olde Monoprice Select Mini V2 just isn't cutting it anymore. The kids are impressed but I know better.
Big bummer if true.
I still stand on that this company has the ability to create a very competitive industrial FDM printer at a fraction of the cost.
Vendors are pitching me 50-100k FDM printers that in some cases have no or little improvements (on paper) over our xc1.
Where is my 5k Bambu to blow them out of the water with.
Mmm, I agree it's time to severely financially damage the established industrial market. But the fact is there just aren't as many customers for that. Also I love seeing people bitch and moan about the high cost of bambu. Stratasys would like a word
Forsure the market is a bit different as a whole.
Youād likely need vendors rather then direct sales to support the product ect. But the $ per unit sold is a multiple. So it goes both ways.
I think a lot of machine shops do not realize the value of 3D printing still. The xc1 allowed me to show the people around me how simple/useful it can be supporting day to day projects.
Maybe with time.
I was working with an overseas injection older and brought in 3d samples. Blew their freaking minds. They wanted to do a laborious mold-> test -> mold cycle for r+d. They don't even make molds inhouse so I couldn't see the benefit to them besides that's how we've always done.
Then they were willing to go pick up designs from a 3d print shop 20 minutes away. Like c'mon guys you have millions of dollars of equipment, adding an office printer and learning to use it is literally nothing. But I do appreciate the focus on their lane, I often get distracted by shiny new objects and I could tell they were not like me at all.
Sooooo... let's speculate:
* Something that small is most likely a bed slinger. It doesn't make sense to produce all that framing for a bed that appears to be 200(ish) x 200(ish) mm. Yeah, I know the Voron 0 is less than that with a 120mm x^(2) build surface. So yeah - I'm probably wrong. So a much smaller printer using a 4-color extruder ,eans that Grandpa will be pumping out all these tchotchkes around Christmas.
**UPDATE: Correct. Bedslinger 1 for 1**
* The other [image](https://cdn1.bambulab.com/home/warm-up-ab6768540ecfa.png), that of that little box with four colored lines entering it, seems to be a multi-color driver/extruder. It won't mix colors, just retract or advance one filament at a time. That extrusion on the right side is most likely a filament cutter which looks similar to the existing one on the X1C. One the top near the upper left Philips screw appears to be filament extruder lever that will grip the filament as it enters the body. This unit reminds me of a more slim, sleek version of the $200USD [3d Chameleon](https://www.youtube.com/@3d_chameleon).
**UPDATE: Correct. 2 for 2**
* This [uhm tweet(?) uhm 'x'clamation](https://twitter.com/BambulabGlobal/status/1699769592908742775?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) (??? -- yeah I made that up, hire me, Elon!) about 'silent mode' is most likely a firmware update to add a 'silent mode' or a more quiet operation of their AT8236 stepper drivers. The BambuLab printers don't use (German) Trinamic drivers; the X1C uses locally designed/made drivers. This locally sourced printer allows them to control supply lines while keeping their printer a 'walled garden' like Apple.I think they have developed a hybrid signal in their firmware that allows for quiet movements in certain sections of a tool path, kinda like Trinamic's stealthChop.
**UPDATE: Correct. 3 for 3.**
* Lastly, the [flow dynamics 'x'clamation](https://twitter.com/BambulabGlobal/status/1701219118739849526) from BambuLabis sorta interesting to me. It's their version of Klipper's 'Pressure Advance.' They already have an auto or manual process for the X1C, so I'm wondering if they are just adding new masks for their visual component to increase or decrease the pressure as needed. I'm wondering how they are going to do that using fast speeds with Z-hop turned on?
**UPDATE: Correct. 4 for 4**
Did I miss any other announcements? Oh, price! How much do you think that the A1 - little printer with a four-color extruder will be? $1450 to $1200 to $700 (not counting the $600 P1P as it is being discontinued) to... $500?
**UPDATE: Less than $500. Priced exactly as the Prusa Mini. Which makes me sad because now we know they are targeting the biggest non-Chinese 3d printing company with all their models, including Chinese-only sourced parts.**
>uhm tweet(?) uhm 'x'clamation
I gave you an updoot for this alone because I don't know what to call them anymore either.
I've heard speculation that it'll be around the $500 mark. If it is a bedslinger, that'll be a pass for me. But if it's a mini coreXY like a Voron 0.2, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. It'd be great for prototyping while the big X1C is reserved for banging out parts. Plus it'll look infinitely cooler than my old Monoprice mini that I take to 3d demos I do for kids.
I wouldnāt be surprised if they announced a smaller printer at a lower price with new features we havenāt seen but with somewhat limited capabilities/speed, so as to not dig into the P1P/S sales too much. And then, once all the hype really gets going, release a new version of the X1 with those same features at a higher price.
nice try , i got one of these myself [https://www.printables.com/de/model/360731-bambulab-x1-p1p-x1-carbon-mousepad](https://www.printables.com/de/model/360731-bambulab-x1-p1p-x1-carbon-mousepad)
Fascinating! There's more writing on the small plate in the video than on the mousepad though... And yes, someone could have modified the STL to add more writing...
Weird that āBambuā is missing from the wording on the side of the plate in the video. The rest of the silk screen appears to use the same size font on both plates, they must of been in a hurry.
Yea I thought this would be the case. A smaller bedslinger with a multi colour head, the build layout of the P1 and X1 is not suitable for 4 x top feeding Bowden tubes.
Prepare for a little colour squirter for pla, probably cheap too.
My thoughts exactly. If they can get the same quality and speeds (or at least close to the speeds) of p1/x1 in a smaller package that would decrease the cost exponentially.
So much of the cost of the aforementioned printers is logistics. It's not cheap and they have nearly no control of shipping costs. They can fill a ocean freight container with 2 or 3 times the printers, then get it from warehouse to customer door step cheaper with local carriers. That would easily be a huge cost savings without having to sacrifice quality of the printer it self.
I think it's a smart move. There is a large market for sub $300 printer that Bambus has not tapped into yet.
I'd get one. I was going to pull the trigger on another p1 but if there is something the popular speculations suggest, I'll get 2 of them. Use them as small parts workhorses. Better to have two prints then just one larger one if you're looking for more output.
You can buy Voron 0.2 kits for around the $500 CAD mark (\~$370 USD). I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that Bambu could also do a mini CoreXY for $500 or less. I know this goes against the popular theory that it's a bedslinger. I'm just wishfully speculating because I could really use a mini CoreXY.
If it is one, and it's just as fast and accurate as all Bambu printers are, I'd love to get one for prototyping alone. And it'd be much sexier than taking my Monoprice Select Mini to 3dp demos I do for kids.
Your logic doesn't make sense... Acrylic doesn't get that thin. Alum is more flimsy at that gauge. I've worked with both for over a quarter century. If you were going to make fake internet content, you would just cut down an existing plate. Now we get back into it being steel and magnetic receptive, as it shows in the video.
Im not saying itās acrylic. Iām saying other flat objects like acrylic, glass, aluminum tend to stick together due to air and itās entirely possible to have a piece of material behave that way. There are other clues that lead me to believe it to be magnetic, but not what I saw with that.
I really wish they would stop farting around and release a large format printer, something to compete with the Prusa XL that Prusa still has my down payment for going on over a year nowā¦.
I'm not entirely sure why they would be going after the low cost market. There will ALWAYS be someone lower and the entire reason I went with Bambu was to get away from that and cheap bedslingers. I'm sure they have their place, but the amount of tuning required to get a reliable setup is exponential compared to a corexy printer. While I'm not in the market for a large format printer myself, I really feel like the focus and resources would have been much better suited being spent there.
It's called grabbing a large portion of the market share. Every company does it. Apple, Google, Samsung, LG, Sony... All have flagship products, all have budget products. The fact they have hinted at a new multi color system and to see a A1 patent and this smaller build plate, that are just lowering the cost of entry into multi-color printing. Lowing the cost also gets more people.into their ecosystem. The more people in Bambus eco system the better community gets.
If you want Bambu to continually push out new and better products then you will just have to deal with a wide range of products that doesn't fit your needs. It's a very good strategy to more profits. More profits means better R&D, customer service, cheaper filaments, better costs all around. Etc...
If bambu just keeps doing what they are doing now, competitors are going to outpace them. Bambu really had a very limited amount of printers compared to everyone else. That will be the end of them if they don't get more.
I suppose it depends. Apple is a good example of a company that didn't provide products at all price points, but succeeded because for a long time they produced the best hardware (and some believe software) in the industry. I still have apple products going today from 10+ years ago and they've been ridden HARD.
I understand why people believe it's best to offer products in all price points, but Bambu has a rather advantageous position that they slotted themselves in and became kind of a one man show in their quality/price point. I feel like they would be better suited to continuing to fine tune and offer products at or near those price points, even higher than that instead of saturating and diluting their resources to offer a product with so much competition already built in.
There are countless companies offering sub $400 bed slingers. There are countless discounts offered constantly on those same products. I'm still mentally crunching numbers how this is a real opportunity for them, unless they are going to route of say Meta did with their Oculus headset and offering them at a loss simply to capture market share hoping to either A, do the subscription model or B, capture people into the ecosystem.
That said, it's a 3D printer. There is no ecosystem like there is with an iPhone or an Oculus and their app stores. I don't see the benefit of being a low cost leader when there are going to be cheaper and likely reasonably similar products the minute they release theirs.
I'm pretty sure that is true. Coming out with a cheaper and smaller version makes business sense.
But I keep holding out from buying another Bambu hoping they come out with an XL version. 300x300x350 would be ideal.
Honestly i've seen nothing but good from bambulabs, I just ordered an X1C and having it less than a foot away from me it's still reasonably quiet and prints amazingly. I look forward to future investments in this company and if this new printer is going to be smaller form factor then I may have to get it for my desk.
E3Pro + X1C.
Some prints, depending on their geometry and complexity, are best run as single models on the plate. You lose less time to travel (almost trivial for the Bambu but used to be the largest % of prints) and eliminate blobbing and stringing between models.
However larger build plate and volume is easier to regulate for temps
That's cool. I have an older monoprice select mini. I use it for smaller parts when the bambu is tied up printing other things.
Small bed pri tera are good for this reason also the bigger the bed the more bed warping/leveling issues it can have.
3 hours to go to the official announcement of the Bambu Lab A1 Mini Combo 3D Printer (Includes AMS Lite). Prusa has also just updated the Mini with input shaping. Prusa boy here but I may just have to cross over to China LOL.
https://preview.redd.it/pz3swu190epb1.png?width=831&format=png&auto=webp&s=a87f5a33e783390810d2610c6d6bb7c51f42fca6
Earlier versions of the X1C had no feet or really small ones. The later versions are taller by a bit
Proof for the doubters:
https://forum.bambulab.com/t/x1c-updated-printer-base-plate-taller-feets/11494
Lol, I believed you before you posted these. Been looking at a few more videos and it does appear to be a bedslinger of sorts and something else.
https://youtu.be/zz0cdrS8NWU?si=IqCJhNzpy-RiCQ73
And if you watch the Next Layer, he visited the BL factory and posts up blurred shots of what clearly is a bedslinger. It could all be smoke and mirrors though.
What was interesting is Coprint had a multifilament head called the chromahwad that looked very similar to the BL poster but the video was deleted and all pictures advertised have lost the chroma part of the image. So maybe BL bought the concept from them? Who knows. Either way itās pretty exciting to see what they come up with.
Very interesting. It does seem alot of people are saying itās an extra special printer. So who knows we might get something game changing like the rumors suggest
reddit users told them to go bigger. That doesn't mean their market research indicates that's where the money is... or where their R&D led them.
There are plenty of folks with needs other than to print doghouses. Off the top of my head, cheaper comes to mind as something even more people are interested in.
In any case, speculating on what they're going to offer in a week is a fruitless endeavor. The odds of guessing right is just about 0, no matter how much "leak" folks may think they've seen, or whatever inside info anybody is claiming to have.
Temper tantrum?? I wont probably get it either but this whole "they lost me as a customer" is such a childish mentality. I can guarantee you the moment they release a larger printer you and every other customer that "left" will come crawling back.
Well in your scenario its logical to not purchase an item that doesn't fit YOUR needs. I'm sure it won't fit the needs of others as well, just like me. It's just to small of a printer. But they have not lost me as a customer just because they decided to pursue a smaller build. I'll just wait for them to build a larger printer. It could be a few years. I'll wait.
As someone who has never owned a Bambu printer, Im honestly very interested in this one. If itās cheaper than the current models, this would be awesome for cheap and fast prototyping. Youāre not their only potential customer.
Did you already buy their shit? Then you arenāt key to expanding their market reach. Doing big well and not in kit form is a bigger lift. Itās probably going to take longer, especially because the competition is limited. Showing up a bit later with a much better product is likely to be successful in that segment. Unless the goal is to just kill prusa, which I donāt think is the goal.
It's not about me, it's about what everyone wants.
- Just look at the other comments and then you'll know what the fan base expects.
- Look at the competitors (Prusa etc. are all going for more construction volume).
Just because I have a Bambu doesn't mean I'm in their market, do you think? But you know me well :D
I'm currently planning to expand the print farm with many machines and wanted to wait for September 20th, I'm now planning with prusa XL and wait to see what bambulab brings.
PS: Nobody has ever complained about a huge construction space... so why take the risk and make the construction space smaller?
just to stimulate
Competitive intrusion into a larger market segment. Thats why. Iāll point out you are still waiting on that larger construction space. They move there off they want to eat prusaās lunch because prusa keeps delaying it. Which would be a valid business move, but doesnāt exactly jibe with the marketing to date as well as this video.
If it's on video then it must be true. I also hear that if you order a P1S right now they'll send you either an X1C, a PS1(PlayStation) or a Lamborghini. I've just maxed out every one of my credit cards with the P1S orders because I like them odds.
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> If it's on video then it must be true. You think they went to the trouble of making such a nice replica of a bambu build plate only smaller just to lie for a video?
Have you met people?
It looks so perfect that It seems more likely to be plausible than in plausible
If it's a cheap/affordable multi colour printer then it's good to bring more new people into the 3D printing space. I personally won't buy anything that small since I already own 2 P1Ps but it can be interesting for many people. It would be crazy if it's a 400 euro/dollar multi color printer.
I'd say 90% of my prints are smaller so a smaller unit might be ok BUT I do use the AMS sometimes. I think though, I would still rather have matching X1C's and will probably buy a second one after the launch if MicroCenter lowers the price.
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Lol, good luck receiving that xl in the next few months...
Same here. I'm considering using my X1C to build a huge Voron at some point in the future, a 500x500 build plate would be a game changer for functional prints
I have a P1P now but I print mainly tiny objects. The A1 could be a perfect little brother for my setup if the price is right.
If I didn't have that extra p1p then I might have considered it since it can already do multi color.
If they could squeeze an ams + the mini A1 for under 500 thatll be a godsend to a huge part of the community
The teaser said āfor everyoneā which always means cheaper/smaller. I have no idea why so many were expecting bigger and/or more special
> I have no idea why so many were expecting bigger and/or more special Itās because Iām included in āeveryoneā so it must be for meeee.
Most people I saw were speculating some kind of attachment for the ams to non Bambu printers. I thought that was funny because Bambu wants you to buy their printers. Also non Bambu printers don't have a poop shoot.
So you're saying Bambu is gonna rip them a new one?
Yes. I replied to one of those that it would just be smaller more entry-level. If the above is true, looks like that's what it is. They want a wider audience and, unlike Apple, they realise a lower end option is the way to get there
I'm actually somewhat relieved that it looks like it's going to be a smaller printer. I put an order yesterday for a X1C combo and then later in the day read about all the speculation about the reveal for 20 Sep. It would be quite the hassle to go through if discounts were coming or if the new printer is going to be the next iteration of the X1C š
That's where I'm at. I have had mine for 2 weeks...would suck to have a large format come out right after.
I believe there was a leaked patent filed for a larger printer but afaik it was called the E series. This is merely speculation because many patent's get filed and never materialize.
Prusa also went smaller before they went bigger. Bigger is niche. Smaller is a much bigger market.
They can do both. In one year they released 3 printers and the AMS and are about to announce another machine. They're not stopping after this next one.
I think the x1e is gonna be bigger. E for extended.
Why not XLC (XL Carbon)
For everyone in this space can also imply not commercial I suppose
I don't get people freaking out about how this leak or maybe the upcoming announcement is not the exact machine they particularly wanted or expected. In about a year, BL has released 3 printers and the AMS and they're about to release more. They're not going to stop after the next printer is announced. They seem to know where the demand is. Fully expect to see both smaller, bigger, cheaper, and costlier printers join the lineup. If they keep up the same pace they have been, it probably won't be long.
I need BIGGER bambu.... not smaller
iām holding out for two new printers or at least some aftermarket upgrades (the noise cancellation still looks like it could be software ā maybe a retrofit) apparently the few influencers that received this printer called it āinsaneā and āmind blowingā or something along those lines. i wonder if thereās more to it or if thatās just influencer talk
Probably hype talk
Most likely to garner looks on their Youtube and Instagram accounts.
My guesses -Super fast color changes -Super fast print speeds (I think about people printing disposable cups in the TV show Upload)
This. I'd love a Bambu that I can print a giant full size Star WarsĀ® Helmet in. I'd love to put 4 full rolls of the same color in the AMS and just watch a 7 day long print go.
> I'd love to put 4 full rolls of the same color in the AMS and just watch a 7 day long print go. You can do that already though? Or do you just mean the print size?
I'd love an 15" x 15" for helmets or even 18" x 18"
If you're lucky you'll see a larger Bambu printer eventually with 400mmx400mm print area but 18" likely isn't happening. That's far into the absurd size for 99% of printers.
I would love a mini X1C ... I might not need the screen but I'd have to figure out a way to address the color change and the filament. If they had a software way to pause, and change the filament manually for a single color transition (like Makerbot Replicators had a pause change filament button) that might be cool. I don't print much multi-color so a smaller X1C type thing I would probaby buy for my commercial prints and the X1C for more experimental stuff. I'd probably keep one with a .2 nozzle on it, and the other .4 also. We will see what happens next week. My credit card is paid off and I am ready lol.
Me too
This indeed. Very disappointing to me. I want to buy a Bambu printer because I know it's better, but I feel like my only real choice is the Creality K1 Max. :\
Qidi has 2 for under $1k the Xmax 3 and the XPlus3, which is the one I have. It's bigger (280x280x270) more capable (350C HE 120C bed and 60C chamber) than Bambu and half the price as well as fully open firmware but has the same speed as Bambu Also it doesn't start printing by itself in the middle of the night damaging itself repeatedly
It's too bad the max 3 doesn't boast a larger plate. I mean that's not much bigger than the bbl.
It's more than 2 inches in XY and Z it's cheaper, better and doesn't spy on you lol
I guess that's something. But honestly if it's not spying on you is it even modern tech?? šš
I would say it's open-source modern tech, has Klipper firmware, accelerometer in print head for input shaping. Doesn't have LIDAR but it has an auto bed level and a cool dry box that snaps to the outside of the enclosure
Haha naah I got you. Just being facetious
There must some AMS equivalent also for the half price for the half-priced xmax/3xplus3, right? And itās probably more than 16 colours cause you are saying they are āmore capableā.
Don't need an AMS when your main business is making actual functional parts that are as strong as aluminum but lighter. Also I can do multiple material parts I just have to use some ingenuity. Look at my profile for a TPU and PLA combo print that took 10 minutes to draw and 45 minutes total to print Oh yeah and I can print 95A TPU at 80mm/s so....
Oh yeah, so now you started narrowing down the use case once it is not that āmore capableā. Every task has its tools. When was max3 released? Iām using my x1c since new year.
Gen 3 was released in like April but Qidi realized carbon X-axis rods are shit They recalled the ones they did sell, redid the machine and made them half price for an apology I don't print toys so color change is a gimmick
Odd they would not brand the plate with "Bambu" like every other plate they sell...
Itās common for companies to omit their overt branding from engineering samples in an effort to avoid leaks.
Just what we all wanted, less build volume.
If this is real, which I am skeptical of, the smaller area would still be suitable for a lot of prints. Especially if it became the new entry level at like $400. At some point I do expect to see them release machines cheaper than the P1P.
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I get it from a cost/profit standpoint; however, I can't forget the Bambu CEO AMA top question was "when are we getting a large format printer." That was the primary ask by existing customers.
I'm sure they are working on one. They have been releasing machines at a high pace. I don't think they're going to stop.
I really hope so. I'd like to see at least a 350x350 from Bambu, but a 400 would be bliss.
Bigger machine will definitely be more difficult than a smaller, entry level one for a bunch of reasons, and will take more time in R&D and market research. I'm just thinking out loud here but... A smaller "A" series of machines is simple to imagine. The design and price space is pretty constrained. Smaller volume = less material and easier distribution = lower price. It's a no-brainer to create a lower entry level with hardware and technology trickling down from the higher tiers. The engineering is easier too. If you simply shorten all the lengths of the frame and gantry, the smaller machine will be stiffer. Even higher movement speeds are feasible. Keep the same materials, material dimensions and manufacturing processes. Going bigger/up market is tougher because it's open-ended. Makes sense to go with the same bed size as the Prusa XL so people don't complain that it's slightly too small. For rigidity, everything needs to get thicker, or prints will be slower. Good chance larger diameter carbon rods would be needed for the X gantry, which means some new engineering on the carriage, the bushings, and the Y-carriages. The frame needs to get a little stiffer, belts wider, motors stronger, etc. Shipping gets a lot more expensive. Pricing is tricky. Too close to the X1C price and you cannibalize it. Too high, also looks bad. Maybe they do a large format with all the bells and whistles at $2000-2500, then stripped down versions priced between it and the X1C, kind of like they did at launch with the X1 and P1P.
number of the existing customer is extremely small compared to potential customer that are only willing to spend $400 for a multimaterial printer.
Yes that would be the "I get it from a profit standpoint" you responded to.
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That's not how magnets work. Putting the first plate down on top of the magnetic bed channels the magnetic field through it (the plate) so another steel plate on top of it shouldn't stick. If you have 2 build plates, go set one on top of the other on the magnetic surface. The top one will slide just like in the video. I just tried it to confirm. It might still not be legit, but not for that reason.
have you tried to stick another steel plate on top of another one? The new printer IS smaller whether you believe it or not.
Eh, I just got an X1C and started printing out some terrain for table top games. A larger plate would be nice, but what I am running up against is that even running my X1C with a .6 nozzle with the flow jacked as high as the filament allows, it still takes a long time to print things. I really want a second printer so I can do prototyping and printing smaller things while my X1C is chugging along. Thought about getting a P1S, but if they can sell me a smaller printer with the filament changer built into the extruder, I am all ears. Then, when they do come out with their larger one, I'll probably get that as well ;). If the X1C is any indication of their overall product development, I see them making some really good printers of all sizes.
Yeah Bambu clearly not listening and also not paying attention to how slow the XL roll out has been. Bambu could have killed the XL before it even shippedā¦.which it seems not to have done yet.
If true then I expect the smaller printer was both easier to design as well as likely to sell like absolute hot cakes bringing in much more money. A larger volume is likely coming as well, I wouldn't assume BL are "not listening" because they have released this.
Just like the XL is coming, right?
This isn't Prusa. I don't really have any need for a bigger printer myself, but the trademark application certainly leads me to think they have it in the pipeline. It is just guesswork at this stage of course.
Why? They got at least another year to beat that, right? ;)
Well Iād gladly take the 200 dollar deposit that Prusa is still holding on to for over a year and turn that over to BL for a large format. Iād do that immediately upon announcement of a large format BL. I guess until then, Creality is the king for large format with their 5+, and thatās really really sad. The 5 plus is a good machine but it feels like it runs on whale oil compared to my fleet of BLs.
There's always Voron and VZbot if you want up to 350mm volume with good quality. As for Creality being the best large scale I was under the impression the Neptune 3 max and flsun v400 were better offerings.
Might upgrade my 5 plus to a Voron at some point. Meh, FLsun.
Or RatRig, up to 500x500
Or the smaller plate is the originalā¦ā¦ š¤
How could it be the original if the big one fits the printer that says 256x256x256 build volume like the current one.
It is a Bambulab tardis?
I assumed it was a small affordable bedslinger that has a multi material nozzle.
Bambu does not make bedingers It's against there charter
Until the 20th that is :)
*āWe love Prusa, weāve gained so much from them. But we need to make their printers look like toys in comparison. Total. Market. domination.ā* - Someone probably at Bambu Labs.
We are getting a pocket printer
Honestly I'd buy one. I've got a P1P and 2 AMS, I'd buy another P1P/P1S but if I could buy a smaller printer that's cheaper and just as reliable instead then im all for having a Bambu mini.
If it's a mini CoreXY like the Voron v0.2, I'd order it pronto. I do 3d printer demonstrations for kids and my olde Monoprice Select Mini V2 just isn't cutting it anymore. The kids are impressed but I know better.
Prusa mini killer?
Bambu is a Prusa killer
So next, after this, they go for the XL?
Theyāve had over a year to go after the nonexistent XL. If they announce a large format printer on 9/20 Iāll be cancelling my XL down payment.
Long overdue
I thought it would be cool to see s bambu with one z axis rod/rail.
Big bummer if true. I still stand on that this company has the ability to create a very competitive industrial FDM printer at a fraction of the cost. Vendors are pitching me 50-100k FDM printers that in some cases have no or little improvements (on paper) over our xc1. Where is my 5k Bambu to blow them out of the water with.
Mmm, I agree it's time to severely financially damage the established industrial market. But the fact is there just aren't as many customers for that. Also I love seeing people bitch and moan about the high cost of bambu. Stratasys would like a word
Forsure the market is a bit different as a whole. Youād likely need vendors rather then direct sales to support the product ect. But the $ per unit sold is a multiple. So it goes both ways. I think a lot of machine shops do not realize the value of 3D printing still. The xc1 allowed me to show the people around me how simple/useful it can be supporting day to day projects. Maybe with time.
I was working with an overseas injection older and brought in 3d samples. Blew their freaking minds. They wanted to do a laborious mold-> test -> mold cycle for r+d. They don't even make molds inhouse so I couldn't see the benefit to them besides that's how we've always done. Then they were willing to go pick up designs from a 3d print shop 20 minutes away. Like c'mon guys you have millions of dollars of equipment, adding an office printer and learning to use it is literally nothing. But I do appreciate the focus on their lane, I often get distracted by shiny new objects and I could tell they were not like me at all.
If they were $5k vs $50k, there *would* be many more customers.
Sooooo... let's speculate: * Something that small is most likely a bed slinger. It doesn't make sense to produce all that framing for a bed that appears to be 200(ish) x 200(ish) mm. Yeah, I know the Voron 0 is less than that with a 120mm x^(2) build surface. So yeah - I'm probably wrong. So a much smaller printer using a 4-color extruder ,eans that Grandpa will be pumping out all these tchotchkes around Christmas. **UPDATE: Correct. Bedslinger 1 for 1** * The other [image](https://cdn1.bambulab.com/home/warm-up-ab6768540ecfa.png), that of that little box with four colored lines entering it, seems to be a multi-color driver/extruder. It won't mix colors, just retract or advance one filament at a time. That extrusion on the right side is most likely a filament cutter which looks similar to the existing one on the X1C. One the top near the upper left Philips screw appears to be filament extruder lever that will grip the filament as it enters the body. This unit reminds me of a more slim, sleek version of the $200USD [3d Chameleon](https://www.youtube.com/@3d_chameleon). **UPDATE: Correct. 2 for 2** * This [uhm tweet(?) uhm 'x'clamation](https://twitter.com/BambulabGlobal/status/1699769592908742775?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) (??? -- yeah I made that up, hire me, Elon!) about 'silent mode' is most likely a firmware update to add a 'silent mode' or a more quiet operation of their AT8236 stepper drivers. The BambuLab printers don't use (German) Trinamic drivers; the X1C uses locally designed/made drivers. This locally sourced printer allows them to control supply lines while keeping their printer a 'walled garden' like Apple.I think they have developed a hybrid signal in their firmware that allows for quiet movements in certain sections of a tool path, kinda like Trinamic's stealthChop. **UPDATE: Correct. 3 for 3.** * Lastly, the [flow dynamics 'x'clamation](https://twitter.com/BambulabGlobal/status/1701219118739849526) from BambuLabis sorta interesting to me. It's their version of Klipper's 'Pressure Advance.' They already have an auto or manual process for the X1C, so I'm wondering if they are just adding new masks for their visual component to increase or decrease the pressure as needed. I'm wondering how they are going to do that using fast speeds with Z-hop turned on? **UPDATE: Correct. 4 for 4** Did I miss any other announcements? Oh, price! How much do you think that the A1 - little printer with a four-color extruder will be? $1450 to $1200 to $700 (not counting the $600 P1P as it is being discontinued) to... $500? **UPDATE: Less than $500. Priced exactly as the Prusa Mini. Which makes me sad because now we know they are targeting the biggest non-Chinese 3d printing company with all their models, including Chinese-only sourced parts.**
>uhm tweet(?) uhm 'x'clamation I gave you an updoot for this alone because I don't know what to call them anymore either. I've heard speculation that it'll be around the $500 mark. If it is a bedslinger, that'll be a pass for me. But if it's a mini coreXY like a Voron 0.2, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. It'd be great for prototyping while the big X1C is reserved for banging out parts. Plus it'll look infinitely cooler than my old Monoprice mini that I take to 3d demos I do for kids.
Is that p1p speculation?
Regular bedslinger size
I wouldnāt be surprised if they announced a smaller printer at a lower price with new features we havenāt seen but with somewhat limited capabilities/speed, so as to not dig into the P1P/S sales too much. And then, once all the hype really gets going, release a new version of the X1 with those same features at a higher price.
nice try , i got one of these myself [https://www.printables.com/de/model/360731-bambulab-x1-p1p-x1-carbon-mousepad](https://www.printables.com/de/model/360731-bambulab-x1-p1p-x1-carbon-mousepad)
Fascinating! There's more writing on the small plate in the video than on the mousepad though... And yes, someone could have modified the STL to add more writing...
Weird that āBambuā is missing from the wording on the side of the plate in the video. The rest of the silk screen appears to use the same size font on both plates, they must of been in a hurry.
Honestly, I'm ok with a smaller printer. That just means that I don't have to buy a new printer š
Yea I thought this would be the case. A smaller bedslinger with a multi colour head, the build layout of the P1 and X1 is not suitable for 4 x top feeding Bowden tubes. Prepare for a little colour squirter for pla, probably cheap too.
My thoughts exactly. If they can get the same quality and speeds (or at least close to the speeds) of p1/x1 in a smaller package that would decrease the cost exponentially. So much of the cost of the aforementioned printers is logistics. It's not cheap and they have nearly no control of shipping costs. They can fill a ocean freight container with 2 or 3 times the printers, then get it from warehouse to customer door step cheaper with local carriers. That would easily be a huge cost savings without having to sacrifice quality of the printer it self. I think it's a smart move. There is a large market for sub $300 printer that Bambus has not tapped into yet. I'd get one. I was going to pull the trigger on another p1 but if there is something the popular speculations suggest, I'll get 2 of them. Use them as small parts workhorses. Better to have two prints then just one larger one if you're looking for more output.
You can buy Voron 0.2 kits for around the $500 CAD mark (\~$370 USD). I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that Bambu could also do a mini CoreXY for $500 or less. I know this goes against the popular theory that it's a bedslinger. I'm just wishfully speculating because I could really use a mini CoreXY. If it is one, and it's just as fast and accurate as all Bambu printers are, I'd love to get one for prototyping alone. And it'd be much sexier than taking my Monoprice Select Mini to 3dp demos I do for kids.
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second plate does not grab at all especially if the lower one is a cool plate.
Replay the part where they lift it. You can tell there is some grab to it. It suddenly pops up.
A sheet of acrylic or aluminum can also stick like that as it takes a fraction of a second for air to get between them.
Your logic doesn't make sense... Acrylic doesn't get that thin. Alum is more flimsy at that gauge. I've worked with both for over a quarter century. If you were going to make fake internet content, you would just cut down an existing plate. Now we get back into it being steel and magnetic receptive, as it shows in the video.
Im not saying itās acrylic. Iām saying other flat objects like acrylic, glass, aluminum tend to stick together due to air and itās entirely possible to have a piece of material behave that way. There are other clues that lead me to believe it to be magnetic, but not what I saw with that.
with no magnet on it, i rekkkkon its a fake
The plates are magnetic receptive, not magnetic if self. Watch the video, when he lifts it up there is a bit of a snap up. It's metal.
Nah, it slid around way too mich
What ever dude. Just know bambu is releasing a smaller printer.
so funny that people are refusing to accept the fact that the new printer is smaller. Copium is strong with this one.
This isn't what I wanted
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https://preview.redd.it/2ltk24dxf2ob1.jpeg?width=223&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0260c120cd3ba658a6858b34f94e2c839c5c54b0
All interest just dropped out the window
Ahh that's too bad, hopefully, they will announce a bigger one soon
Iāll take 4 please
I really wish they would stop farting around and release a large format printer, something to compete with the Prusa XL that Prusa still has my down payment for going on over a year nowā¦.
Please for the love of all things holy come out with a new flagship !
Lame
Imagine you plug on each extruder one ams multi connector 64 possible colors :)
I'm not entirely sure why they would be going after the low cost market. There will ALWAYS be someone lower and the entire reason I went with Bambu was to get away from that and cheap bedslingers. I'm sure they have their place, but the amount of tuning required to get a reliable setup is exponential compared to a corexy printer. While I'm not in the market for a large format printer myself, I really feel like the focus and resources would have been much better suited being spent there.
It's called grabbing a large portion of the market share. Every company does it. Apple, Google, Samsung, LG, Sony... All have flagship products, all have budget products. The fact they have hinted at a new multi color system and to see a A1 patent and this smaller build plate, that are just lowering the cost of entry into multi-color printing. Lowing the cost also gets more people.into their ecosystem. The more people in Bambus eco system the better community gets. If you want Bambu to continually push out new and better products then you will just have to deal with a wide range of products that doesn't fit your needs. It's a very good strategy to more profits. More profits means better R&D, customer service, cheaper filaments, better costs all around. Etc... If bambu just keeps doing what they are doing now, competitors are going to outpace them. Bambu really had a very limited amount of printers compared to everyone else. That will be the end of them if they don't get more.
I suppose it depends. Apple is a good example of a company that didn't provide products at all price points, but succeeded because for a long time they produced the best hardware (and some believe software) in the industry. I still have apple products going today from 10+ years ago and they've been ridden HARD. I understand why people believe it's best to offer products in all price points, but Bambu has a rather advantageous position that they slotted themselves in and became kind of a one man show in their quality/price point. I feel like they would be better suited to continuing to fine tune and offer products at or near those price points, even higher than that instead of saturating and diluting their resources to offer a product with so much competition already built in. There are countless companies offering sub $400 bed slingers. There are countless discounts offered constantly on those same products. I'm still mentally crunching numbers how this is a real opportunity for them, unless they are going to route of say Meta did with their Oculus headset and offering them at a loss simply to capture market share hoping to either A, do the subscription model or B, capture people into the ecosystem. That said, it's a 3D printer. There is no ecosystem like there is with an iPhone or an Oculus and their app stores. I don't see the benefit of being a low cost leader when there are going to be cheaper and likely reasonably similar products the minute they release theirs.
No
I don't care about the new printer, I'm happy with what I already have... I'm more pumped for the active noise cancelling...
I'm pretty sure that is true. Coming out with a cheaper and smaller version makes business sense. But I keep holding out from buying another Bambu hoping they come out with an XL version. 300x300x350 would be ideal.
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95% of my prints would probably fit on the small size. I just like the possibility of going bigger.
If my use cases are met with a p1p, do I need to wait until this announcement?
Sep 20th incoming
Honestly i've seen nothing but good from bambulabs, I just ordered an X1C and having it less than a foot away from me it's still reasonably quiet and prints amazingly. I look forward to future investments in this company and if this new printer is going to be smaller form factor then I may have to get it for my desk. E3Pro + X1C.
Some prints, depending on their geometry and complexity, are best run as single models on the plate. You lose less time to travel (almost trivial for the Bambu but used to be the largest % of prints) and eliminate blobbing and stringing between models. However larger build plate and volume is easier to regulate for temps
Its so cute šØ
That's cool. I have an older monoprice select mini. I use it for smaller parts when the bambu is tied up printing other things. Small bed pri tera are good for this reason also the bigger the bed the more bed warping/leveling issues it can have.
[https://www.phaserfpv.com/products/bambu-lab-a1-mini-combo-3d-printer?shpxid=1bf2da3e-2a94-48aa-862e-e21f69304262](https://www.phaserfpv.com/products/bambu-lab-a1-mini-combo-3d-printer?shpxid=1bf2da3e-2a94-48aa-862e-e21f69304262)
3 hours to go to the official announcement of the Bambu Lab A1 Mini Combo 3D Printer (Includes AMS Lite). Prusa has also just updated the Mini with input shaping. Prusa boy here but I may just have to cross over to China LOL. https://preview.redd.it/pz3swu190epb1.png?width=831&format=png&auto=webp&s=a87f5a33e783390810d2610c6d6bb7c51f42fca6
How has this build plate compared to other "budget/small" printers, like the Anycubic kobra go?
Is this one going to be recalled also?
https://preview.redd.it/loakr5e6g0ob1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d8981c1131313a72c4c597fd469c52debfd4929 Is that a sneak peak?
just looks like another x1 to me.
The X1 has feet, this one flat on the desk
Earlier versions of the X1C had no feet or really small ones. The later versions are taller by a bit Proof for the doubters: https://forum.bambulab.com/t/x1c-updated-printer-base-plate-taller-feets/11494
Found the post on this https://forum.bambulab.com/t/x1c-updated-printer-base-plate-taller-feets/11494
Lol, I believed you before you posted these. Been looking at a few more videos and it does appear to be a bedslinger of sorts and something else. https://youtu.be/zz0cdrS8NWU?si=IqCJhNzpy-RiCQ73 And if you watch the Next Layer, he visited the BL factory and posts up blurred shots of what clearly is a bedslinger. It could all be smoke and mirrors though. What was interesting is Coprint had a multifilament head called the chromahwad that looked very similar to the BL poster but the video was deleted and all pictures advertised have lost the chroma part of the image. So maybe BL bought the concept from them? Who knows. Either way itās pretty exciting to see what they come up with.
Very interesting. It does seem alot of people are saying itās an extra special printer. So who knows we might get something game changing like the rumors suggest
I'm just hoping for a discount on the P1S...
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> i wont buy this shit! Maybe you're not their target customer.
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Chill the fuck out, nothing has been announced yet.
reddit users told them to go bigger. That doesn't mean their market research indicates that's where the money is... or where their R&D led them. There are plenty of folks with needs other than to print doghouses. Off the top of my head, cheaper comes to mind as something even more people are interested in. In any case, speculating on what they're going to offer in a week is a fruitless endeavor. The odds of guessing right is just about 0, no matter how much "leak" folks may think they've seen, or whatever inside info anybody is claiming to have.
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Temper tantrum?? I wont probably get it either but this whole "they lost me as a customer" is such a childish mentality. I can guarantee you the moment they release a larger printer you and every other customer that "left" will come crawling back.
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Well in your scenario its logical to not purchase an item that doesn't fit YOUR needs. I'm sure it won't fit the needs of others as well, just like me. It's just to small of a printer. But they have not lost me as a customer just because they decided to pursue a smaller build. I'll just wait for them to build a larger printer. It could be a few years. I'll wait.
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As someone who has never owned a Bambu printer, Im honestly very interested in this one. If itās cheaper than the current models, this would be awesome for cheap and fast prototyping. Youāre not their only potential customer.
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Hopefully there are two sizesā¦ i pray for it Well we talk about future sales, not about one Single machine i bought in the past
Did you already buy their shit? Then you arenāt key to expanding their market reach. Doing big well and not in kit form is a bigger lift. Itās probably going to take longer, especially because the competition is limited. Showing up a bit later with a much better product is likely to be successful in that segment. Unless the goal is to just kill prusa, which I donāt think is the goal.
It's not about me, it's about what everyone wants. - Just look at the other comments and then you'll know what the fan base expects. - Look at the competitors (Prusa etc. are all going for more construction volume). Just because I have a Bambu doesn't mean I'm in their market, do you think? But you know me well :D I'm currently planning to expand the print farm with many machines and wanted to wait for September 20th, I'm now planning with prusa XL and wait to see what bambulab brings. PS: Nobody has ever complained about a huge construction space... so why take the risk and make the construction space smaller? just to stimulate
All of the competitors have both large and small format printers. Remember, Prusa released the Mk4 around the same time as the XL.
This isn't a hate post, I like Bambu but that logic doesn't make sense to me
Competitive intrusion into a larger market segment. Thats why. Iāll point out you are still waiting on that larger construction space. They move there off they want to eat prusaās lunch because prusa keeps delaying it. Which would be a valid business move, but doesnāt exactly jibe with the marketing to date as well as this video.