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I saw a guy fitting that description between the Asok BTS and Term 21 platform a week or two back in the morning on the weekend. Barefoot, no shirt, glazed look on his face, very thin/gaunt looking, looked very wigged out. He looked to me like he was on a bad drug trip while trying to do half naked yoga, it kinda looked like another farang was with him but not sure, I was on my way to meet friends so didn't give it a lot of thought. I just assumed they were hippies looking for that ice bath meetup that another hippie guy runs.
It's pretty self-contained. 99% of the country doesn't have this problem, and the areas where it happens are mostly full of locals who make money from it.
Don't make the mistake of projecting that farang's behavior onto all foreigners.
Tourism and visas bring a lot of money into the country. It is a huge part of the economy.
U know Thailand dosent attract the best of the best rite. The main draw of Thailand is sex booze and debauchery. There are entire streets and cities dedicated to it. This is normal for this type of tourism.
Idk why this sub downvotes thoughts like this, its not entirely false…
Im sick of it but its true. If not why do some people come to bangkok never leave Khaosan Rd? Because thats all they want. And its there in Khaosan or any other red light area that this applies.
Ofcourae there are so many good people coming for the food, culture, and nature. But there are ALOT that come for cheap booze, drugs, prostitution and budget price.
It's down voted because it's a caricature of Thailand and the people who come here. Entirely false is not the criterion for a down vote.
People come here for booze? Did they run out elsewhere? Drugs? Terrible country for recreational drug abuse, cannibis aside. They lock people away for decades.
Kaosan is not a red light District, btw.
Thanks for the insight. It can be a caricature but some of it is true and Thai people arent blind to it. No need to get defensive. Arguing over semantics like if Khaosan is a redlight district and misrepresenting my statements. CHEAP booze CHEAP night’s outs etc. you knew what I meant dude cmon…
Bangkok is fine if you know where to avoid. It’s the same everywhere. I was shocked by the main strip in Hua Hin and Kanchanburi when I visited as I didn’t think they’d have the same issues as BKk or say Pataya/Samui but it’s just how it is.
Nonono. TAT is going for the quality Tourists. Don’t you know anything?
I mean, who needs the Maledives, Lake Como, The Seychelles and Martha’s Vineyard when you have Koh Samui?
Very true, myself included. I’m definitely not the best of anything, let alone the best of the best. People like me have nothing to do except debauch ourselves while waiting to die. I’m grateful to this country for letting me experience a bit of life’s pleasures on the way out.
He looks like an actual homeless person, not just a hippie. He's definitely facing a crisis in which he will be likely unable to rectify by himself. He's been spotted on Sukhmumvit the past week or two.
Yes I’ve seen the same man multiple times in the same area. The first time he came so close to me that my blood run cold; got the worst feeling down my spine.
The second and third time I have seen him walking at a distance and I have kept myself far away. Not sure what he’s doing but he seems to be very recognisable and really agitated / concerning.
Wasn’t sure what to do about this myself as I’m not a local - I’m an expat. But it seems sad that he’s still wandering around a month later
Tbh, I think it was kind of you to check in on him. Just leave him be since he rejected help and police were already informed. Also, I doubt he can recognise you if he saw you again. After all, he’s probably high.
One of the Thailand forums has talked about this guy for months. People have tried to help him, but he seems to want nothing more than money or some food. You are definitely not a Karen. I just wanted you to know multiple attempts have been made to help him. It's thought he is more mentally ill than on drugs because he wouldn't have a lot of money to buy drugs. One wonders how long he can go on like that.
LMAO! Seriously, he doesn't carry any ID. When people ask him questions, he rambles on about things that have nothing to do with the questions. He does say he is from the US, but without ID the US Embassy won't help him. It's too bad there isn't some kind of social service program or something similar in Thailand that could help him.
It’s a criminal offense to not show proof of legal status in this country. US embassy has nothing to do with it, citizen or not. He needs to show passport and valid visa or can be detained and deported
Since he has no passport and if he is from the US, a deportation has to be worked out through the US Embassy so he is allowed entry into the country. Most likely he sold his passport for money. He's been wandering around that area for months. The simple truth is no one cares enough to do anything.
Yabba is cheap here. And you’d be surprised how often people will supply drugs to mentally unwell people or how resourceful addicts are. I don’t doubt there’s mental health issues but I also don’t believe that’s all. Having seen him myself many times I’m sure there’s drugs involved. He’s quite unsettling. As a woman who runs here alone; it’s terrifying to come across him.
I mean, that’s kind of rude of the police to make you do what they should be doing. Who knows, even though I’m sure he wouldn’t hurt anyone, who knows. They should be going down there and taking him in and processing him. You were very kind to help out, that’s great of you. But they shouldn’t be putting you in harms way.
Yeah, I kinda only do it because he doesn't "look harmful" and definitely doesn't have any weapon, but looking back, that was stupid of me, and I shouldn't have done that.
It's the right thing that you did. I'm sick of people look the other wat, just walk past and better "let others handle it". This person is obviously having some mental meltdown or is under influence of substances. He could pose a threat to himself or worse, to others.
Back home firefighters sometimes called the police, "blue canaries" for their tendency to run in before assessing scene safety. If they survived, it was OK to go in. (Police used to wear blue, and canaries were used in coal mines, if they died get out).
It’s never stupid to have kind intentions. But the police were being stupid by not going down and taking care of the issue by themselves. From the sounds of it he’s been there for weeks, it just doesn’t seem like something that they should let happen. He needs to be taken in, processed, get his Passport looked at, and then take appropriate measures.
In my country we wouldn't be asked by police to approach a man with the description you made in case of a violent reaction.
If you don't feel comfortable approaching someone like that don't do it and if you feel the need to intervene, do it with someone who will help.
What you did was a good thing but you don't have to put yourself in a volatile situation if you don't want to.
You're not a Karen, that is someone who needs to be assessed by authorities.
I wasn't following him or anything. I walked passed him once, actually, and thought he was just waiting for a taxi.. so I just took mental note, and I went inside the Department store to buy drink, and came out to see he's still there, something's just wrong, that's why I started to take action. It takes a while for the call center to pick up, and then for me to give them the infomation, that's why I was able to observe him making weird yoga-like poses.
I might have met the guy, younger looking, very thin. Kinda have that drugged out looks to him.
I live in the area, there'a few of the homeless round both thai and a few foreign lookings ones. The Local shop and วิน kinda take care of them a bit with basic food, clothing.
Don't worry too much about them. They're harmless 90% of the time mostly like to be lefy alone.
I talked to this guy too, I think he's harmless, just having some kind of mental health crisis or drug problems.
I tried to ask if he needed help, maybe his embassy can co-ordinate something (wishful thinking I know). I worry he will eventually end up in immigration jail. I work with a local foundation that can help him, if anyone has any more information that has also spoken with him please DM me. When I spoke with him I got the same response as OP, he didn't want to talk.
My biggest concern is he overstays his visa and ends up in immigration jail or something, so would be good to intervene if possible.
There are a few western foreigners like this in Thailand and Philippines I have seen. They mentally gone on a permanent basis, probably from drugs and alcohol abuse but I think some have been seriously beaten causing major brain damage and then left on streets. Police don’t bother locking them up because they are more a pain to them then, and they have no money clothes or anything to gain anything from them. They are very harmless and unfortunately too brain damaged to try to help and get any understanding from them.
I know exactly who you’re talking about. He stopped and spoke away to me randomly one night and said he was Canadian. Honestly nice enough of a person. Also at that point, was seemingly dressed normally but he seemed pretty out of it. Since then (like two-three months ago?) I’ve seen him a lot around Asok area with no shoes and at one point sprinting down Soi 13. I hope he gets some help anyway at some point cause it seems things are pretty bad from an outside perspective
Personally, as a farang, I think it’s pretty disregard shows the guy has no respect for himself and no respect for others. A dangerous combination and given the fact not in his own country he obviously wanted to escape something but wow that’s something else. I’m sorry you had to deal with that but you got the courage to help him and should be proud of yourself for that
To people saying "you do this only because he is a white man", you have to decide whether you're accusing me of racism as in "you only care and want to help white people" or "you only hate and want to report white people" fr
Not to sound mean but one incentive for travelling to Thailand is to leave all the crazy, mostly white guys like this behind in my home country (USA). Another reason I avoid other tourists when I travel.
Sad. Last time I saw anything like this was a middle eastern guy running around half naked in Thonglor traffic on a Sunday morning. He'd probably been drugged by a pro during the night. A big crowd gathered and we watched him run into that posh bridal shop - thai lady getting measured for a dress, absolute mayhem .. police turned up very quickly, took him away in the back of a pick up
Saw a guy matching that description washing his underwear in a water fountain in Ekkamai a few months back.
Staff from a local restaurant were signaling him to stop but he was having none of it.
Is it a crime to be homeless? When you called the police they clearly didn't want to get involved.
Yep I use to live in Noble just behind Terminal 21 and I was seeing this guy few time a weeks, didn’t seem like he was about to hurt someone, but seeing him almost naked walking near the school was truly shameful
Omg I saw him 2 weeks ago in between empo and emsphere!! he had a shirt on but was barefoot and trying to do yoga too, told my friends and they saw him a week before in front of villa supermarket :(( felt so bad but he didn’t want to talk
Nah report him. Why the hell are they walking around almost naked in downtown BKK? I mean I am a Foreigner myself and I already dont like the guys who walk shirtless in Bangkok. Its not the culture and they are disrespectful. I just think you should have called the regular police instead of tourism police. They would have come
It is not at all surprising that a well intentioned Thai local would express concern about an individual who by any objective standard not only appears but behaves as if acute distress is a companion. Not Karen-qualifying, imo.
There are people like this all over the world, but really? To call the police? They obviously are their own free spirit just move on, it’s not a gauge of moral decrepitude for reasons we don’t know maybe this person needs help. In the years I’ve lived in Thailand I really see very little shocking things it’s an awesome place
Me and my wife saw a guy screaming and punching buildings the other day on 31. Is that the same? Yours sounds peaceful.
I've been here quite awhile and never run into people who seemed violent in the area.
You did the right thing. He probably needs medical attention, and someone to keep him from wandering off a cliff or something. It def sounds like a bad trip, or possibly a really bad dissociative episode
Natural selection. Just another drunk/high white drunk LBH who thinks Thailand is a mystical wonder that'll save him and then quickly realizes life comes at your fast. Leave them be. They'll get sorted out one way or another.
Take a deep breath, let them suffering on the sun burn the next day or better melanoma in the long run. These kind of people don’t use sunscreen they’re lack of self-awareness, manner to care.
There are thousands of guys like him in LA... homeless dude. Probably lost his money in Vegas and had his wife divorcing him and battling addiction. Give the dude a break.
Why should you give that guy a break. He's living in a foreign country, disrespecting the local culture and norms with his behaviour. He should be deported to where he came from.
Doesn't look harmful is the keyword from the OP. Is he commiting a crime? Do you have reasonable suspicion that he's committing a crime? Do you know him personally? Do you know all of his circumstances? Do you need to have this sense of superiority just to look down on someone who happens to be down on his luck? If not, leave the dude alone.
There are homeless Thais too, is it only because he's an Alien and you're hating on someone you don't know?
I'm far from woke. Illegals need to be deported fullstop, but that's up to the visa officers and the government not you. You're too quick to judge someone you don't even know.
So what are you on about. Your whole high and mighty argumentation just above this more than proves your own point of your own sense of f in superiority. I rarely have read something more arrogant than that sentence structure right there. So better calm.your tits critizizing me and then two sentenceslater trying to avoid bad responses by agreeing with the exact same point I made. Illegals like this should be deporte. Thats all I said. And its up to me to decide if I like foreigners behaviors or not, regardless of the law - even though that argument is idiotic if you actually lived in Asia for a long time. Cause its not about law. Its about respecting where you are and the local peoples culture and norms. And if you're here trying to be a damn champion for a bum that annoys the locals and disrespects their culture and also has no interest in even talking to people trying to help him... thats a foolish fight really. Give me a damn break for having a clear and defined opinion!
What makes you think he's an illegal alien? Did you see his passport stamp? Did he physically overstay his visa? There are plenty of "disrespectful" folks out there. Folks that never hold the door nor say thank you, or folks that are rude on the internet, we both know who i am referring to.
But they ain't doing anything illegal are they? Is it against the law to be disrespectful? Like you're disrespecting me, but I ain't calling no authorities to get you deported. It's like saying I didn't vote for the same party as you, but if you ain't breaking the law, then it's none of my business.
If he's antisocial then he should be ignored. If he is doing anything illegal then any patrolling officers would arrest him.
I fully understand what respecting other culture means. I make sure I uphold my own integrity, behaving myself in every country I visit. I always try to learn a phrase or two in their language, bow, smile, and thank everyone I meet even if we do not speak the same language.
It doesn't mean everyone else must do the same. According to your logic, thousands would need to be deported every day from every country for behaving differently. Then all climate activists, religious nuts, animal welfare activists should be deported too? Since they do not respect the "majority"?
I’m not a local, but I can tell from my point of view you did all right. Men can’t behave like that and annoy and scare others doesn’t matter who they are locals or tourists. Tourists behave like that more often because they believe they will not get punished because they are just tourists. But they should behave more respectful to others. I believe he was just after some party night and left everything somewhere and being under influence, he was being not responsible and that’s not ok! He bothers others with his behavior and you was perfectly right to report.
Is it the guy thats very tall skinny old bald looks like เปรต.
I seen him like a few months ago in Ekkamai. Thought authorities done their job already…
Dude was from caucasus? 😂This term "caucasian" sounds so outdated in my european ears...even wikipedia says this is an obsolete term. But probably not in the US?
He look like he needed help, he obviously don't look like he can speak Thai and can't ask for help himself, he have nothing on him, and he doesn't look like beggar. Anyone fitting that description, I'd be concerned too, hence why I call the touism police, not just local police.
And ‘Caucasian’ is a phrase which outs these race obsessed people, I doubt the man was from the Caucasus states
Edit: downvote all you want, ‘Caucasian’ comes from that shitty American race theory and can fuck off as a term to describe all white people
If you’re going to stridently make authoritative comments, at least make sure your facts are correct.
> ‘Caucasian’ comes from that shitty American race theory
Trivially disprovable. The term has been around for 250 years, and comes from Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race?wprov=sfti1#
You’ve split the infinitive there, which is where I think our focus should lie. The chap may have made authoritative comments stridently. Or perhaps made strident, authoritative comments (depending on one’s view of the original authoritative comments).
I don't think tourism police lock people up in a cell immediately after they were reported. If he's under influence, was robbed, and now left with nothing, in a country whose language he doesn't speak, and unable to get help on his own, they'll help him contact the embassy of his country and figured out how to get him home.
Most will if you are completely destitute. Typically you have to exhaust all options including asking family for money but if you can't, they will lend you the money to get home. They either take your passport or deny renewal until you pay it back.
**US**
>Consular officers can assist destitute U.S. citizens/ nationals abroad by:
>(1) Preparing information on sources of financial assistance (see 7 FAM 320 for guidance on the role of the consular officer in developing information and identifying local resources to assist in destitution cases);
>(2) Contacting family, friends, and employers for assistance; ...
>(4) Processing repatriation loans.
>c. CA may at its discretion, but is not required to, provide a repatriation loan to an eligible U.S. citizen and/or accompanying family member(s).
https://fam.state.gov/fam/07fam/07fam0370.html
**UK**
>**Returning to the UK: emergency loans for repatriation**
>In very exceptional circumstances, the FCDO may be able to provide an emergency loan to help you return to the UK. You should try all other options before we can consider this.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/your-finances-when-travelling-abroad
It's a real last resort option and they don't go out of their way to publicise it as they don't want people relying on it, but usually they will get you home. They won't pay off fines, legal fees, etc. though.
he will get send to IDC in suanplu and be stuck there forever like plenty others with mental health [issues.you](http://issues.you) should go visit someday , i had to with school and its a horrendous place to be locked up with immigration issues
You arent helping him in any way.Pretending you really care about him and then report him lol..
hes been there for years...
You're concerned because he's white?
There's plenty more beggars, trafficked children, homeless and illegals around there
If you want results post on various social media warriors and get it viral, if you're Thai you should know that
I don't even know what the tourist police could do here
Regular police at Lunlmpini can speak English too
I'm concerned because he is a toursit, a foreigner, he can't speak Thai and doesn't look like he could ask for help on his own. I'm doing what I can, without having to go out of my way to fully dedicated my time as activist or politician. If I have to carry the burden of fixing everything and be concerend for everyone, I don't think my life will ever be my own.
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I saw a guy fitting that description between the Asok BTS and Term 21 platform a week or two back in the morning on the weekend. Barefoot, no shirt, glazed look on his face, very thin/gaunt looking, looked very wigged out. He looked to me like he was on a bad drug trip while trying to do half naked yoga, it kinda looked like another farang was with him but not sure, I was on my way to meet friends so didn't give it a lot of thought. I just assumed they were hippies looking for that ice bath meetup that another hippie guy runs.
Why do Thais keep taking this abuse? Foreigners are treating your country like a playground
It's pretty self-contained. 99% of the country doesn't have this problem, and the areas where it happens are mostly full of locals who make money from it.
Don't make the mistake of projecting that farang's behavior onto all foreigners. Tourism and visas bring a lot of money into the country. It is a huge part of the economy.
Theres people who benefit from it. And those people are in charge.
Nonsense comment. This guy is likely in trouble, mental health problems and stuck. That's no playground you cretin
lol you should see what foreigners are doing to the countries we come from. Although to be fair it’s rarely thais
U know Thailand dosent attract the best of the best rite. The main draw of Thailand is sex booze and debauchery. There are entire streets and cities dedicated to it. This is normal for this type of tourism.
Idk why this sub downvotes thoughts like this, its not entirely false… Im sick of it but its true. If not why do some people come to bangkok never leave Khaosan Rd? Because thats all they want. And its there in Khaosan or any other red light area that this applies. Ofcourae there are so many good people coming for the food, culture, and nature. But there are ALOT that come for cheap booze, drugs, prostitution and budget price.
It's down voted because it's a caricature of Thailand and the people who come here. Entirely false is not the criterion for a down vote. People come here for booze? Did they run out elsewhere? Drugs? Terrible country for recreational drug abuse, cannibis aside. They lock people away for decades. Kaosan is not a red light District, btw.
Thanks for the insight. It can be a caricature but some of it is true and Thai people arent blind to it. No need to get defensive. Arguing over semantics like if Khaosan is a redlight district and misrepresenting my statements. CHEAP booze CHEAP night’s outs etc. you knew what I meant dude cmon…
who are you to decide who is a good tourist and who is not?
Use your common sense.
I refuse to live in bangkok. Actively avoid it. None tourist areas are amazing.
Bangkok is fine if you know where to avoid. It’s the same everywhere. I was shocked by the main strip in Hua Hin and Kanchanburi when I visited as I didn’t think they’d have the same issues as BKk or say Pataya/Samui but it’s just how it is.
Nonono. TAT is going for the quality Tourists. Don’t you know anything? I mean, who needs the Maledives, Lake Como, The Seychelles and Martha’s Vineyard when you have Koh Samui?
If Thailand was a Martha's Vineyard crowd I would avoid it.
Very true, myself included. I’m definitely not the best of anything, let alone the best of the best. People like me have nothing to do except debauch ourselves while waiting to die. I’m grateful to this country for letting me experience a bit of life’s pleasures on the way out.
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He looks like an actual homeless person, not just a hippie. He's definitely facing a crisis in which he will be likely unable to rectify by himself. He's been spotted on Sukhmumvit the past week or two.
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lol he’s definitely not just a “yoga person”. He’s very much homeless.
He talks to himself.
Yes I’ve seen the same man multiple times in the same area. The first time he came so close to me that my blood run cold; got the worst feeling down my spine. The second and third time I have seen him walking at a distance and I have kept myself far away. Not sure what he’s doing but he seems to be very recognisable and really agitated / concerning. Wasn’t sure what to do about this myself as I’m not a local - I’m an expat. But it seems sad that he’s still wandering around a month later
Still around, wanders around Soi 21 and Soi 23. People seem to be giving him food.
Maybe he’s the ghost of the Soi Cowboy
when the money runs out and you’re old enough to achieve this FINAL FORM
poor guy! I wonder what happen? (But if he's just pretending to be like that for free food, then he's a jerk)
Im sure nobody is pretending to be in need for food
Yabba
Tbh, I think it was kind of you to check in on him. Just leave him be since he rejected help and police were already informed. Also, I doubt he can recognise you if he saw you again. After all, he’s probably high.
One of the Thailand forums has talked about this guy for months. People have tried to help him, but he seems to want nothing more than money or some food. You are definitely not a Karen. I just wanted you to know multiple attempts have been made to help him. It's thought he is more mentally ill than on drugs because he wouldn't have a lot of money to buy drugs. One wonders how long he can go on like that.
His visa will runs out one day. Hope he gets help before then :(
hahah, jokes on you, he's on a 20yr elite visa
LMAO! Seriously, he doesn't carry any ID. When people ask him questions, he rambles on about things that have nothing to do with the questions. He does say he is from the US, but without ID the US Embassy won't help him. It's too bad there isn't some kind of social service program or something similar in Thailand that could help him.
It’s a criminal offense to not show proof of legal status in this country. US embassy has nothing to do with it, citizen or not. He needs to show passport and valid visa or can be detained and deported
Since he has no passport and if he is from the US, a deportation has to be worked out through the US Embassy so he is allowed entry into the country. Most likely he sold his passport for money. He's been wandering around that area for months. The simple truth is no one cares enough to do anything.
Yabba is cheap here. And you’d be surprised how often people will supply drugs to mentally unwell people or how resourceful addicts are. I don’t doubt there’s mental health issues but I also don’t believe that’s all. Having seen him myself many times I’m sure there’s drugs involved. He’s quite unsettling. As a woman who runs here alone; it’s terrifying to come across him.
It's sad. I was reading a Thai forum yesterday and a couple of guys tried to talk to him, but he just had a blank stare and said nothing.
I mean, that’s kind of rude of the police to make you do what they should be doing. Who knows, even though I’m sure he wouldn’t hurt anyone, who knows. They should be going down there and taking him in and processing him. You were very kind to help out, that’s great of you. But they shouldn’t be putting you in harms way.
Yeah, I kinda only do it because he doesn't "look harmful" and definitely doesn't have any weapon, but looking back, that was stupid of me, and I shouldn't have done that.
It's the right thing that you did. I'm sick of people look the other wat, just walk past and better "let others handle it". This person is obviously having some mental meltdown or is under influence of substances. He could pose a threat to himself or worse, to others.
I mean i might do the same, but what if he has a violent psychotic episode, injuring himself or others?
If it was me or my kid or friend I’d be glad you tried to help.
> definitely doesn't have any weapon One advantage of being in your underwear... easy to reassure people you don't have weapons.
He could still throe you or throw himself in front of a bus.
Sometimes they can have a loaded gun.....
If I’d have been in my underwear, you’d have seen a weapon
Back home firefighters sometimes called the police, "blue canaries" for their tendency to run in before assessing scene safety. If they survived, it was OK to go in. (Police used to wear blue, and canaries were used in coal mines, if they died get out).
It’s never stupid to have kind intentions. But the police were being stupid by not going down and taking care of the issue by themselves. From the sounds of it he’s been there for weeks, it just doesn’t seem like something that they should let happen. He needs to be taken in, processed, get his Passport looked at, and then take appropriate measures.
Yup, nothing wrong if op decided to go check for themselves but for the police to suggest is just asking innocent bystanders to take risks
Right? So irresponsible of the BIB.
In my country we wouldn't be asked by police to approach a man with the description you made in case of a violent reaction. If you don't feel comfortable approaching someone like that don't do it and if you feel the need to intervene, do it with someone who will help. What you did was a good thing but you don't have to put yourself in a volatile situation if you don't want to. You're not a Karen, that is someone who needs to be assessed by authorities.
Thai Karen in the house.. Seems like you were stalking him. Maybe u low key liked what u saw…? The tightee whitee’s ur thing? Lol
I wasn't following him or anything. I walked passed him once, actually, and thought he was just waiting for a taxi.. so I just took mental note, and I went inside the Department store to buy drink, and came out to see he's still there, something's just wrong, that's why I started to take action. It takes a while for the call center to pick up, and then for me to give them the infomation, that's why I was able to observe him making weird yoga-like poses.
lol rude of the police? Since when have the cops ever been concerned with manners
I might have met the guy, younger looking, very thin. Kinda have that drugged out looks to him. I live in the area, there'a few of the homeless round both thai and a few foreign lookings ones. The Local shop and วิน kinda take care of them a bit with basic food, clothing. Don't worry too much about them. They're harmless 90% of the time mostly like to be lefy alone.
But how can foreigners be homeless in Thailand and not getting deported?
No one to pay flight home, or choose to stay as condition is better.
I talked to this guy too, I think he's harmless, just having some kind of mental health crisis or drug problems. I tried to ask if he needed help, maybe his embassy can co-ordinate something (wishful thinking I know). I worry he will eventually end up in immigration jail. I work with a local foundation that can help him, if anyone has any more information that has also spoken with him please DM me. When I spoke with him I got the same response as OP, he didn't want to talk. My biggest concern is he overstays his visa and ends up in immigration jail or something, so would be good to intervene if possible.
There are a few western foreigners like this in Thailand and Philippines I have seen. They mentally gone on a permanent basis, probably from drugs and alcohol abuse but I think some have been seriously beaten causing major brain damage and then left on streets. Police don’t bother locking them up because they are more a pain to them then, and they have no money clothes or anything to gain anything from them. They are very harmless and unfortunately too brain damaged to try to help and get any understanding from them.
No worries, he's on the Digital Nomad visa.
lmao
I fail to see the correlation
Better you than me. There's no way in hell I am approaching that dude.
I know exactly who you’re talking about. He stopped and spoke away to me randomly one night and said he was Canadian. Honestly nice enough of a person. Also at that point, was seemingly dressed normally but he seemed pretty out of it. Since then (like two-three months ago?) I’ve seen him a lot around Asok area with no shoes and at one point sprinting down Soi 13. I hope he gets some help anyway at some point cause it seems things are pretty bad from an outside perspective
That’s nearly-naked Nick. He’s like the furniture at this point.
Probably an alco or yaba addict, or both.
Someone has tasted the good Thai ice 🤤
Not a Karen! Some people here just need some help and/or intervention.
That was my thought at that moment. He look like he can't speak Thai and so he couldn't ask for help.
Ive seen him 2 mornings in a row right around Young Place building in Sukumvit 23. He always has food and is walking about in basketball shorts
If it's a white guy then odds are he won't recognize you. I wouldn't worry too much. If you see him again just ignore him.
I've seen a guy like this with dark hair in the same area. Always partially dressed. He doesn't look well at all. Hopefully the police do help him.
I have seen him near Phrom Phong many months ago, so not new.
Thanks for being someone with good intention and care for others. The world needs more people like you!
💯% AGREE🙌
I've seen this guy 3 times already in the past week, usually balancing on one leg.
You did everything right; you are the kind person.
"Bangkok has him now"
I saw him as well. Couple of times 2-3 weeks ago
Hi r/florida , I think you left your man here.
YES, YES WE DID. …The USA 🇺🇸 part. NOT the 😵💫Florida🤢 part. West Coast here👋
Personally, as a farang, I think it’s pretty disregard shows the guy has no respect for himself and no respect for others. A dangerous combination and given the fact not in his own country he obviously wanted to escape something but wow that’s something else. I’m sorry you had to deal with that but you got the courage to help him and should be proud of yourself for that
To people saying "you do this only because he is a white man", you have to decide whether you're accusing me of racism as in "you only care and want to help white people" or "you only hate and want to report white people" fr
Not to sound mean but one incentive for travelling to Thailand is to leave all the crazy, mostly white guys like this behind in my home country (USA). Another reason I avoid other tourists when I travel.
Sad. Last time I saw anything like this was a middle eastern guy running around half naked in Thonglor traffic on a Sunday morning. He'd probably been drugged by a pro during the night. A big crowd gathered and we watched him run into that posh bridal shop - thai lady getting measured for a dress, absolute mayhem .. police turned up very quickly, took him away in the back of a pick up
Not sure if he is the same man I met. If so, he was praying to Hindu gods.
Just make a report believing he is on overstay. Immigration will jump on it quick
I did see him outside the Thermae later that morning
Saw a guy matching that description washing his underwear in a water fountain in Ekkamai a few months back. Staff from a local restaurant were signaling him to stop but he was having none of it. Is it a crime to be homeless? When you called the police they clearly didn't want to get involved.
Yep I use to live in Noble just behind Terminal 21 and I was seeing this guy few time a weeks, didn’t seem like he was about to hurt someone, but seeing him almost naked walking near the school was truly shameful
Omg I saw him 2 weeks ago in between empo and emsphere!! he had a shirt on but was barefoot and trying to do yoga too, told my friends and they saw him a week before in front of villa supermarket :(( felt so bad but he didn’t want to talk
Bad mental health makes you do crazy things.
did he look had mentality problem ? Maybe he should be sent to treatment somewhere rather than left on the streets.
I am a foreign tourist. In bangkok, I never go to kahosan or nana or sukhumvit. Hope make you feel better .
Nah report him. Why the hell are they walking around almost naked in downtown BKK? I mean I am a Foreigner myself and I already dont like the guys who walk shirtless in Bangkok. Its not the culture and they are disrespectful. I just think you should have called the regular police instead of tourism police. They would have come
It’s called Crystal meth
Did he look like this guy? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSNxTBgEH6E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSNxTBgEH6E)
I think I met him near On Nut Station a few weeks ago. He only had yellow underwear on
It is not at all surprising that a well intentioned Thai local would express concern about an individual who by any objective standard not only appears but behaves as if acute distress is a companion. Not Karen-qualifying, imo.
There are people like this all over the world, but really? To call the police? They obviously are their own free spirit just move on, it’s not a gauge of moral decrepitude for reasons we don’t know maybe this person needs help. In the years I’ve lived in Thailand I really see very little shocking things it’s an awesome place
Me and my wife saw a guy screaming and punching buildings the other day on 31. Is that the same? Yours sounds peaceful. I've been here quite awhile and never run into people who seemed violent in the area.
Quality tourist.
Nothing wrong in informing the police about a person who may need help.
It's not the job of the police to help foreigners high on yaba.
FACT(S).
You did the right thing. He probably needs medical attention, and someone to keep him from wandering off a cliff or something. It def sounds like a bad trip, or possibly a really bad dissociative episode
We have a lot of those in California. It is all about the drugs. They will leave if they can’t buy drugs and get high.
Natural selection. Just another drunk/high white drunk LBH who thinks Thailand is a mystical wonder that'll save him and then quickly realizes life comes at your fast. Leave them be. They'll get sorted out one way or another.
Handsome man. Yea it really isn’t your problem if he is annoying they will get rid of him.
Take a deep breath, let them suffering on the sun burn the next day or better melanoma in the long run. These kind of people don’t use sunscreen they’re lack of self-awareness, manner to care.
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sounds like a bad shrooms trip
Oooweeee
Standard British tourist
There are thousands of guys like him in LA... homeless dude. Probably lost his money in Vegas and had his wife divorcing him and battling addiction. Give the dude a break.
Why should you give that guy a break. He's living in a foreign country, disrespecting the local culture and norms with his behaviour. He should be deported to where he came from.
Doesn't look harmful is the keyword from the OP. Is he commiting a crime? Do you have reasonable suspicion that he's committing a crime? Do you know him personally? Do you know all of his circumstances? Do you need to have this sense of superiority just to look down on someone who happens to be down on his luck? If not, leave the dude alone. There are homeless Thais too, is it only because he's an Alien and you're hating on someone you don't know? I'm far from woke. Illegals need to be deported fullstop, but that's up to the visa officers and the government not you. You're too quick to judge someone you don't even know.
So what are you on about. Your whole high and mighty argumentation just above this more than proves your own point of your own sense of f in superiority. I rarely have read something more arrogant than that sentence structure right there. So better calm.your tits critizizing me and then two sentenceslater trying to avoid bad responses by agreeing with the exact same point I made. Illegals like this should be deporte. Thats all I said. And its up to me to decide if I like foreigners behaviors or not, regardless of the law - even though that argument is idiotic if you actually lived in Asia for a long time. Cause its not about law. Its about respecting where you are and the local peoples culture and norms. And if you're here trying to be a damn champion for a bum that annoys the locals and disrespects their culture and also has no interest in even talking to people trying to help him... thats a foolish fight really. Give me a damn break for having a clear and defined opinion!
What makes you think he's an illegal alien? Did you see his passport stamp? Did he physically overstay his visa? There are plenty of "disrespectful" folks out there. Folks that never hold the door nor say thank you, or folks that are rude on the internet, we both know who i am referring to. But they ain't doing anything illegal are they? Is it against the law to be disrespectful? Like you're disrespecting me, but I ain't calling no authorities to get you deported. It's like saying I didn't vote for the same party as you, but if you ain't breaking the law, then it's none of my business. If he's antisocial then he should be ignored. If he is doing anything illegal then any patrolling officers would arrest him.
I fully understand what respecting other culture means. I make sure I uphold my own integrity, behaving myself in every country I visit. I always try to learn a phrase or two in their language, bow, smile, and thank everyone I meet even if we do not speak the same language. It doesn't mean everyone else must do the same. According to your logic, thousands would need to be deported every day from every country for behaving differently. Then all climate activists, religious nuts, animal welfare activists should be deported too? Since they do not respect the "majority"?
I’m not a local, but I can tell from my point of view you did all right. Men can’t behave like that and annoy and scare others doesn’t matter who they are locals or tourists. Tourists behave like that more often because they believe they will not get punished because they are just tourists. But they should behave more respectful to others. I believe he was just after some party night and left everything somewhere and being under influence, he was being not responsible and that’s not ok! He bothers others with his behavior and you was perfectly right to report.
Is it the guy thats very tall skinny old bald looks like เปรต. I seen him like a few months ago in Ekkamai. Thought authorities done their job already…
Some dude got blacked out and wandered around the night b4 the wedding! Fkin real life hangover movie
Is it your first week in Bangkok?
1460 weeks according to math. I'm born here 😭
Yes you are a Karen. I wish to know if you would report your fellow “locals” or just cuz he was a dirty farang….. Smh
I’m 100% certain he remembers you, knows you were reporting him and will exact vengeance next time he sees you.
Dude was from caucasus? 😂This term "caucasian" sounds so outdated in my european ears...even wikipedia says this is an obsolete term. But probably not in the US?
You are being great 😃👍 We should care about people and society.
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Well I hope he’s not going to BangKok!
Would you be "worried" if he wasn't "caucasian"?
He look like he needed help, he obviously don't look like he can speak Thai and can't ask for help himself, he have nothing on him, and he doesn't look like beggar. Anyone fitting that description, I'd be concerned too, hence why I call the touism police, not just local police.
Weird inference. But some people are race obsessed.
And ‘Caucasian’ is a phrase which outs these race obsessed people, I doubt the man was from the Caucasus states Edit: downvote all you want, ‘Caucasian’ comes from that shitty American race theory and can fuck off as a term to describe all white people
If you’re going to stridently make authoritative comments, at least make sure your facts are correct. > ‘Caucasian’ comes from that shitty American race theory Trivially disprovable. The term has been around for 250 years, and comes from Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race?wprov=sfti1#
You’ve split the infinitive there, which is where I think our focus should lie. The chap may have made authoritative comments stridently. Or perhaps made strident, authoritative comments (depending on one’s view of the original authoritative comments).
I like you.
That's why black people call us crackers.
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definitely a karen. that guy has mental issues he isnt harming anyone.. you want him to rot insde a cell?
I don't think tourism police lock people up in a cell immediately after they were reported. If he's under influence, was robbed, and now left with nothing, in a country whose language he doesn't speak, and unable to get help on his own, they'll help him contact the embassy of his country and figured out how to get him home.
Embassies usually don’t help people get home. Western ones, anyway. That is more a misconception (but I’m sure there are exceptions).
Some do, it's worth trying to help
Most will if you are completely destitute. Typically you have to exhaust all options including asking family for money but if you can't, they will lend you the money to get home. They either take your passport or deny renewal until you pay it back. **US** >Consular officers can assist destitute U.S. citizens/ nationals abroad by: >(1) Preparing information on sources of financial assistance (see 7 FAM 320 for guidance on the role of the consular officer in developing information and identifying local resources to assist in destitution cases); >(2) Contacting family, friends, and employers for assistance; ... >(4) Processing repatriation loans. >c. CA may at its discretion, but is not required to, provide a repatriation loan to an eligible U.S. citizen and/or accompanying family member(s). https://fam.state.gov/fam/07fam/07fam0370.html **UK** >**Returning to the UK: emergency loans for repatriation** >In very exceptional circumstances, the FCDO may be able to provide an emergency loan to help you return to the UK. You should try all other options before we can consider this. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/your-finances-when-travelling-abroad It's a real last resort option and they don't go out of their way to publicise it as they don't want people relying on it, but usually they will get you home. They won't pay off fines, legal fees, etc. though.
he will get send to IDC in suanplu and be stuck there forever like plenty others with mental health [issues.you](http://issues.you) should go visit someday , i had to with school and its a horrendous place to be locked up with immigration issues You arent helping him in any way.Pretending you really care about him and then report him lol.. hes been there for years...
You're concerned because he's white? There's plenty more beggars, trafficked children, homeless and illegals around there If you want results post on various social media warriors and get it viral, if you're Thai you should know that I don't even know what the tourist police could do here Regular police at Lunlmpini can speak English too
I'm concerned because he is a toursit, a foreigner, he can't speak Thai and doesn't look like he could ask for help on his own. I'm doing what I can, without having to go out of my way to fully dedicated my time as activist or politician. If I have to carry the burden of fixing everything and be concerend for everyone, I don't think my life will ever be my own.
WELL SAID👏
At last. Sounds like the republicans are leaving the US
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OP post history checks out as being from Thailand though
What do you mean?
You should have beat him to a pulp, the disrespect of being almost naked in public.