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ghostposthusky

I remember seeing two boosters landing simultaneously gave me goose bumps


Volhn

Yeah that is wild to see… like some sort of artistic display like synchronized swimmers.


Arthur-Mergan

Here are those boosters for anyone who wants to see, two falcons: https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/OwLcaz4AKI


Tetha

Dude. Some 15 - 20 years ago, I read some section in the german SciFi series, Perry Rhodan. It was a description of how it felt to stand somewhere near a busy terran spaceport. Ships coming in minute by minute, a bright fireball and a sonic boom as they entered the atmosphere, a giant roar as the engines decelerated the ship, a loud thud as the ship set down on the concrete. Unloading, loading, and another giant roar as it lifted back up, followed by a sonic boom as it accelerated, until it left a streak of heated air leaving the atmosphere. And all of this happening every few minutes, with different ships. That was so cool to read an imagine. And now we have 2 real rocket boosters doing exactly that in unison? Well, half ot it. Eh. Dude, that's blowing my mind a bit.


Kozmo9

That's the sad part about non-book space fiction, a lot of the time their spaceships are not often depicted to leave to space from atmosphere. Or even if they do, they tend to be those super advanced spaceship that they don't exit atmosphere without much spectacle. There is one scene that I find to be amazing. It's from Call of Duty Infinite Warfare where they have a group of space-battleships leaving Earth and their engines are like current spaceship engines. https://youtu.be/cjsA13bBtpo?si=px7_Md6UV-3CMUTn


ghostposthusky

Yep this is it


Arthur-Mergan

I saved that shit that second I saw it. This onboard one is even better: https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/jKLetajUEh


psysxet

I like top left view the most: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4qRY3h\_eo&t=474s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4qRY3h_eo&t=474s)


musclera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ackZ-Ei4JB8


HabibtiMimi

Yeah, this is much better.


Frap_Gadz

That first Falcon Heavy launch still blows my mind, felt like watching a live stream from the future.


ILSmokeItAll

It was the first launch I had any interest in really seeing, since I saw the Challenger break up on TV. That was in a school gymnasium, with the entirety of grades 1-6 watching. It was the quietest a couple hundred kids in that age range will ever get. Ever.


Frap_Gadz

That must have been incredibly grim, especially at such a young age. Challenger was just such a symphony of tragedy.


ILSmokeItAll

I’m in Chicago. My 8th birthday was the 27th of January. The next day the Bears won their first and only Super Bowl. The next day the Challenger tragedy occurred. Crazy 48 hours.


CriticG7tv

It was actually incredible to see live. The boosters coming back and landing together in sync, followed by the cut to the camera on a Tesla in space... truly unforgettable.


No_Ant_9641

I remember crying, like hulking, watching those two first boosters land again. I'm still not sure why, but I suspect it was a combination of awe and feeling a tiny step closer to one of my dreams - being alive to see life, complex life even, be found and confirmed outside of earth.


mt007

When I saw it for the first time, I showed the clip to a friend who is a chemical engineer. He was so surprised that he didn’t believe me or the video. Until he verified it himself.


Leper_Khan58

I showed a bunch of coworkers and they looked at me like, ok? So disappointing lol


GhillieRowboat

I wonder if the human species will be aroung long enough to get accustomed to those boosters landing. So much that is seems "normal" like an airplane landing. Just daily routine.


CMDRStodgy

That's already happened. There's 2 landings a week on average and 300 total booster landings. When was the last time you saw one on the news? It's become normal, routine and boring to everyone who's not a space nerd.


GhillieRowboat

I wasn't even aware they are used that often. Dang! TIL


Pcat0

Just to be clear there are 2 Falcon 9 booster landing on average. The rocket in the video above (starship) is still extremely experimental and is currently only launches a couple times a year.


Disastrous_Elk_6375

The show Westworld paid tribute to that landing by including a very similar CGI scene in a "future Earth" episode. So sci-fi mimicking real-life for once.


LiciniusRex

I remember that happening. Used to live with a friend who didn't give a single fuck about space stuff or engineering. Showed her that when it happened live and she was so happy to have seen it. Honestly a moment in a lifetime


GenTycho

Especially with the sonic booms. Gave me chills.


Bender_2024

The first time I saw a space X ticket land was those two. All I could think of was it looked like something out of Thunderbirds the 60 puppet sci Fi show. I thought it was fake at first


ingrowntoenailer

I've used that wallpaper on every (Windows) desktop computer I've used since then.


arbenowskee

I remember seeing rockets landing like these in old movies and laughing at the idea in 90s. I feel foolish now. 


Agreeable_Vanilla_20

McDonnell Douglas DC-X 1991 https://youtu.be/AC1wgWi9WWU


FlyingOTB

Learned something new. Thanks for sharing


BenFoldsFourLoko

It's a very cool rocket that I have a lot of "what if?" thoughts about. If only it had continued!   but the "beat SpaceX by 20 years" is insincere in some crucial regards most obviously- all this did was hop. It went straight up, then came straight down, much like the New Shepard currently does. The Falcon 9 booster remains the only rocket in history to put something into *orbit* and then come back down. That's the whole point, and it's much harder than a hop.


DingleberryBill

Serving a 3 course meal to passengers in reclining seats and give them internet access on a flight that traverses the Atlantic is much harder than what the Wright Brothers achieved also. But they were still the first.


HappySmilingDog

The DC-X could land .. like any other plane? If it did not achieve orbit it's not a spaceship so it was not the first to do it.


DanyDies4Lightbrnger

The space shuttles boosters? They were more of a chore to retrieve for sure. But they put the orbiter up and came back down. To be really pedantic, all rocket come back down eventually. We just can't reuse them


badgrafxghost

Oh hell yeah, thanks for sharing that channel, I can't think of a subject that is more perfectly tailored toward my interests than this, instant subscribe! Definitely going to be spending some rainy days watching the hell out of these videos.


Agreeable_Vanilla_20

You're welcome, here have another. https://youtube.com/@RealEngineering


badgrafxghost

Oh nice, thanks!


HasPotatoAim

There's several related channels as well if you like the format, [Dark Skies](https://www.youtube.com/@DarkDocsSkies), and [Dark Docs](https://www.youtube.com/@DarkDocs) are ones I've been subbed to for a while.


bighak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X The DC-X is cool, but the highest it ever went is 2500m. It is not really a "space" rocket.


EtTuBiggus

“The gateway to a new era in space.” I guess it was locked. 


rgodless

The MIC reigns supreme and undefeated, inshallah.


Tupcek

unfortunately, as a big fan of DC-X, it never went to space


WuceBrillisLiveSoft

This was such a fascinating video. Thanks for sharing!


madrascafe

Now I know where Elon got good idea for naming Tesla vehicles S E X & Y from & ofcourse SpaceX Thank you


Jendi2016

Lol, I remember seeing that in person once when I was 5. Dad was an engineer on it and I saw it at the McDonnell Douglas open house one year. Got a picture of the whole family in front of it.


arbenowskee

Oh wow! 


Dev2150

"And of course, the bombs and the rockets and the bullets are all shaped like dicks"


NickPickle05

[Colonel? You better come take a look at this radar.](https://youtu.be/UpXhVHmOOQ4?si=X_nVieJHIzJquHei&t=11)


StandardOk42

[Gotta get some coffee first, I always have coffee when I watch radar.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20soJuwWFH4)


DiddlyDumb

Dicks are really aerodynamic tbf


Ok_Skill7476

Don’t know what that is from but I got a laugh out of it, thank you


Dev2150

George Carlin The quote's from "Jamming in New York, "We like war"


dmead

rest in peace george


motavader

Ahhh, the classic "bigger dick theory of foreign policy"


Youregoingtodiealone

The videos of multiple SpaceX boosters landing simultaneously together makes me realize humans are, within 50 years, capable of an actual moon or mars permanent colony


Matzep71

As an engineer I can confirm it's indeed magic. Caffeine goes in, math comes out. So basically alchemy


supamario132

Give me a looming deadline, and I can squeeze my anxiety into whatever product you need


Dumyat367250

Just like pending exams... All nighters, here we come.


PMMeYourWorstThought

50% of us are driven solely by the panic monster. https://youtu.be/arj7oStGLkU?si=qcyq53Rox0duSuUv


WrodofDog

My panic monster is so powerful, it can (and does) make the rational decision maker go catatonic. ADHD and depression are an amazing combination.


SirHarvwellMcDervwel

Somehow my monkey has developed a very unique skill and that is *ignoring* the panic monster. I'm writing this comment 42 minutes after a deadline of a project I should have been working on for the past month, and which I've got no clue on how to start it yet.


WrodofDog

Yeah, same. Some things I can deal with, others I just leave be until the deadline passes and I get out of the situation by telling myself that I can try again next time (if there is a next time).


sparkythewildcat

I'm stealing this. Hilarious wording.


apathy-sofa

To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan, and not quite enough time. I think that was Leonard Bernstein


Sendtitpics215

And then when performance appraisals come around my anxiety will convince me I haven’t dont much at all - imposter syndrome go brrrrre


cedped

It's crazy how efficient and creative an engineer can get once he's on a deadline and the stress sets in. I tried many times tackling a task the moment I got it but I just end up wasting time doing a subpar job just to redo it a few days before the deadline anyway.


dreamerOfGains

It’s called iteration. I bet if you ONLY do it once few days before deadline the result would be subpar as well. 


Expensive-Document41

......Have you as an engineer evern committed the Taboo? Have you or any of your colleagues attempted human transmutation?


StinkyPickles420

“So you’re an Alchemist then?”


BattleHall

Computers are what happen when apes use fire and lightning to trick sand into doing math.


[deleted]

I’m a product, Greg. Can you squeeze your anxiety into me?


its_all_one_electron

As an engineer.... Did it really need to have the profile of a circumcized dick and balls? 


Matzep71

That's the designers fault, we just make the shit they give us work


Mobile_Gaming_Doggo

That thing is 50m tall and 9m wide btw.


SyNiiCaL

>50m tall and 9m wide 65 tons of American pride, Canyonero!


100percent_right_now

Top of the line in utility sports! Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts. Canyonero. Canyonero! *the federal highway commission has ruled the Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving* Whoa, Cayonero!


dgisfun

She blinds everybody with her super high beams, She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine! Canyonero!-oh woah, Canyonero! (Yah!)


Punky-LookingKiddo

*whaaa pshhhhh*


NicolasCageLovesMe

1 highway, 0 city


r3coil

Show some respect. a little over 0.5 football fields tall and ~0.2 football fields wide.


Blake404

0.2 football fields is a little hard… lets round up a tad and do 1/2 an olympic-sized swimming pool


Skodens-Revenge

What is that in freedom fries?


st1tchy

> little over 1.5 football fields tall and ~0.2 football fields wide.   Since when are football fields only 100 feet long?


IlllIIlIlIIllllIl

Uhhh. Not quite. It's a little over half a football field long


Deep-Watercress2826

But how many bananas is that?


Content-Mortgage-725

Floor area = Length × Width = 50 meters × 9 meters = 450 square meters Now, let's calculate the space each banana occupies: Volume of one banana = Length × Diameter² × π / 4 Volume of one banana ≈ 18 cm × (3.5 cm)² × π / 4 ≈ 220.63 cubic centimeters Now, let's calculate how many bananas can fit in the cargo area: Number of bananas = Cargo area / Volume of one banana Number of bananas ≈ 450 square meters / 220.63 cubic centimeters Number of bananas ≈ 2,040,630


freefrompress

Birds be like, let's get the hell out of here.


slackermannn

The poor things were minding their own business lol


Writing_On_Top

I appreciate the thousands of hours, and collectively millions of hours, that scientists much smarter than me, put into making these amazing things happen. I hope humanity keeps building on this knowledge and we eventually figure out how to traverse the stars 😎


Lazaras

Humans will, but us "now" folks will all be dead, so we'll never actually know for sure


Spearka

Not if we figure out life extension tech


Writing_On_Top

This is what I hope, tbh. I am past middle age, so I hope this happens sooner than later. I imagine life extension would be the same as healing. If we can extend our lives near indefinitely, then that means we could heal, and maybe just maybe, reverse the aging process?


bradiation

Even if it does happen before you die, you won't be able to afford it. That will be rich people shit.


mongert

I'm not even disagreeing, but I love how in this hypothetical reality we would have the technology/AI to help us produce immortality but *not* to produce an economy that lets every feel valued and happy equally lol. it's extremely scary and hard to know how AI will progress, but I don't think we're going to be so limited by our resources when we get to that point (as our technology for getting those resources would be significantly better too, assuming rich billionaires don't selfishly capitalize on that as well.)


The_Great_Tahini

Depends how hard it is to make I think. When you’re selling something literally everyone wants you can make more money at scale than by just catering to the wealthy. It would still likely be expensive, because who wouldn’t pay through the nose for that? But I can also see it being related. “Make the life extension drugs affordable” is a winning platform for any politician.


Writing_On_Top

The saddest part about it all, tbh I hope to live long enough to see the foundation of us exploring the stars, because the way it may veer is AI and VR worlds take over for a while and I assume people would voluntarily go into those worlds. I can even see myself volunteering to go into those worlds (especially if 1 min real world = 60 min in game). But can't see it most of the time


PrismaticColors

You're conveniently leaving out the best part.  The bounce at the end caused a fire that blew up the rocket about 6 min after landing. This was Starship 10's flight.  https://youtu.be/hzhP3Q5fku8?si=-0yoP4iDk_d7J-gt The road to magic is paved with failure after failure.


Low_Consideration179

I was gonna say. I'm pretty much always watching the SN launches live and I was worried I somehow missed one. I thought it looked like 10 and I was just missing the RUD. The newest test was 🤌. The view of them plasma clouds was awesome.


Sanket_6

Ikr! Even I watch almost all test launches and thought wait, we had one without a RUD?!


mf1483781

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” - Arthur C. Clark


Rokea-x

Thats amazing.. in 100y they will look at archive videos like this and recognize that this was the beginning of what was going to happen next


Last-Back-4146

just like us looking at the first flying planes. in 100y this will be like a plane going a few hundred feet.


Current-Depth2208

That is incredible 😲


steady_as_a_rock

![gif](giphy|6ahZf0o1e4K7EquZkp|downsized)


elp4bl0791

Ron Howard's brother, Clint.


Newme91

The ultimate nasa nerdonaut


Crimson__Fox

What is it son? I don’t know sir, but it looks like a giant…


chrundlethegreat303

Pecker! It’s a Woodpecker! Wait a minute that looks like a huge


Klin24

Johnson! Get over here! Doesn't that resemble a colossal...


NickPickle05

Dick! Take a look out of starboard. Oh my God, it looks like a huge...


nomemorybear

Look at the size of that... Woody!? Woody Harrelson!?


chews-your-name

Here we go again


joke_epping

Its just rocket science.


house343

It's not exactly brain surgery


Tyhar0

Insane thrust vectoring


PostReplyKarmaRepeat

That's what your mom told me last night.


The-Sturmtiger-Boi

In rocketry it’s often referred to as gimbal, the shuttle RS-25 has some insane gimbal range


SwampyStains

Not thrust vectoring. Thrust vectoring deflects the exhaust (and subsequently loses some efficiency) to change attitude. In this example the entire engine itself is changing direction so 100% of the thrust is always undisturbed


MiningMarsh

Rotating the entire engine is a form of thrust vectoring. Thrust vectoring does not require you to deflect exhaust, any system that can change the vector of the thrust is thrust vectoring. From [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbaled_thrust): > Thrust vectoring for many liquid rockets is achieved by gimbaling the whole engine. This involves moving the entire combustion chamber and outer engine bell as on the Titan II's twin first-stage motors, or even the entire engine assembly including the related fuel and oxidizer pumps. The Saturn V and the Space Shuttle used gimbaled engines.


No-Crew-9000

Number one reason I got into this business


DoYouTrustToothpaste

Same. So incredibly rewarding at times like this, being a professional reddit commenter.


No-Crew-9000

Your upvote, sir. Choke on it :)


Thue

Next test flight is likely at the end of May: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1783873517152317858


Winkiwu

Is this a real video? Like did they drop the ship from a plane or something to test the landing system? Because last i knew they hadn't recovered a ship yet. I'm so excited for the 4th launch though.


Alewdguy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNQ6Mq5kbg Starship sn10. This was when they were testing the second stage. They're testing both stages now.


Thue

As the other comment wrote, this was back when they were only testing the upper stage. Because if the upper stage concept was unworkable, there were no reason to build a booster. The ship ascended under its own power. Not all the way to space, but to ~10km IIRC. The purpose of the test was mainly to test the belly flop maneuver into a controlled landing. It had a very improvised system of legs, and the landing was quite hard on the legs - you can see it doing a little bounce on the landing. But since the landing gear was not the purpose of the test, the test was considered a success.


Winkiwu

So... It is a real video? That's cool as hell. I didn't get into the starship fandom until launch #2. The only reason i ask is because those videos of the Starship being captured by the strong back looks so realistic.


Thue

Yes, real video.


MCotz0r

Your mom's dildo just arrived


Money-Introduction54

And it's on fire


Michaelbirks

... and magic is Heresy.


SnooCalculations4687

Better calculate the right amount of fuel for the fire and the right lengths for pitchforks


ccii_geppato

![gif](giphy|l2YWsiql5xGPIbnzy)


starquake64

/u/GifReversingBot


Jack_South

toBgnisreveRfiG\u


BitcoinMD

It’s literally the opposite of magic


SubmissiveDinosaur

Cigam?


BitcoinMD

No that would be orthographically the opposite


HikARuLsi

Anti-magic, like magic-nullify


syn-ack-fin

Clarke’s third law. “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”


FeistyThings

Nope. Arthur C Clarke would happen to disagree.


asdf_qwerty27

Don't let the scientists and engineers fool you, just cause we can explain a thing does not mean it isn't magic. They make shit boring so the plebs keep trying to use crystal energy to heal, while they transmute matter to make energy that is used in MRIs and shit.


BitcoinMD

I guarantee you scientists don’t want people using crystals to heal


asdf_qwerty27

Ah I see you're not in the cabal. We meet every last Thursday and discuss ways to keep job security and the normies entertained enough to let us go about doing our wizard and alchemist shit. We just call it "chemistry" "engineering" and "programming" instead of alchemey magic and enchanting now and most just happily scroll on their enchanted "smart phone."


Reddit_Suss

But that's space x and Elon musk owns so it must be bad and shitty engineering because I don't agree with his views and that how it works


HF_Martini6

Elon might be a fucking asshole but the SpaceX engineers, technicians and scientists are nothing short of awe inspiring and amazing


tomlets

It’s ok just to say SpaceX is awesome.


AdrianaMeranXX

I always wonder how people manage to think or create something like that


Money-Introduction54

I do too, I get deep into the whole "layers upon layers of knowledge" thinking. How in this case a caveman discovering how to ignite a fire 1000s of years ago led all the way to launching recoverable rockets. Sometimes humans are cool


NeedlessPedantics

We stand on the shoulders of giants, and thus we see further than they.


Smart-Ability-4521

Some are


ChiSmallBears

Pfft I do this all the time on Kerbal space program!


spurtz6969

Seeing upright landings still blows my mind no matter how many times I watch them. Just like I used to land my toy rockets when I was five.


etownguy

Imagine they land a Nuke like this, in he middle of a city. Just gently lands and has a countdown timer..


Winkiwu

It would defeat the purpose. It would be a great scare tactic though. Generally the most destruction happens when you detonate the nuclear warhead as an airburst.


VicePrezHeelsup

Hence why the Little Boy was detonated 1,968 feet above Hiroshima


Altruistic_Pitch_157

Truly amazing, but apparently easier to pull off than fixing my Tesla's windshield wipers.


Imlinorator

Revolutionary stuff 😎


os12

"Johnson!"


DesiSocialIndyeah

Any sufficiently developed technology is indistinguishable from magic


AUSpartan37

Is there a reason why landing like this is worth all the fuel needed to pull it off? Edit: I'm not asking about the cost of fuel...I'm asking if having to take all the fuel, which weighs a lot and takes up a lot of space, is worth it. I assume the rocket has to be bigger just to be able to do this.


widowlark

No other rocket of this size can land at all. The options are between reuse and destruction. It's cheaper no matter the fuel expenditure


AUSpartan37

Thanks!


Pyro_raptor841

Rocket stupid expensive, rocket fuel not expensive Also it's not much fuel in the grand scheme of things, the rocket is empty by then, so not much force is actually needed to slow it down. Less mass = less fuel needed to slow it down.


Revolutionary-Key650

Can someone reverse this please?


Purplebuzz

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Cool-Temperature4566

Ain't that the one thaz exploded after a few minutes? There is a later test that didn't have the bounce at the end and survived


NormalRepublic1073

Glad I'm young enough to see when this thing will be outdated tech! The shuttles were so cool when I was a kid, can't imagine what an 80 year old me will be watching... or even what kind of device I'd watch it on!


karmabumpkinm

they made a flying penis! i love technology!


SunflaresAteMyLunch

It's not magic. It's science. Science is way cooler and more interesting than magic...


obchodlp

Pointy means scary


The-Sturmtiger-Boi

that’s because it’s a test flight? the whole point of year flights are to iron out these issues. Falcon 9 had plenty of big booms and failures early on, but now it’s one of the most reliable vehicles around.


tbkrida

I have a coworker who I cannot convince this is real no matter what I tell him!😂 He’s a flat-earther, btw.


francisco-iannello

I show the video of two flacon booster landing, to my brother in law, and his first reaction was: _ Sooo , you think this it’s real?_ saying like he feel sorry about me. (I forgot that he is a heavy conspiracist) I feel you bro 😂


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DoYouTrustToothpaste

> He’s a flat-earther, btw. You're wasting your time, then. I know a guy who made it a rule during Covid to immediately end any conversation when the other person questioned whether the pandemic was real, or whether vaccines actually work. Because he knew continuing would be wasting time.


SlightlyOffended1984

They did the math


Acidro404

How my pen falls when the whole class is silent:


NotCanadian80

Landing a skyscraper


Threaditoriale

*How hard can it be, it's not like it's rocket science…*


senseless_puzzle

Is this Space X?


KristnSchaalisahorse

[Yes.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship) The footage is from a prototype test [three years ago.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODY6JWzS8WU)


shostakofiev

The most true thing about engineering is that it's not magic.


NiteGard

Will never get old. 🫡


Moms-Dildeaux

honestly cool as fuck


swohio

It's 165 feet (50.3m) tall, it's basically a 16 story building falling out of the air and landing. Here's a picture next to some trucks and with people on a lift next to it for scale: https://i.imgur.com/d2vAL58.png


NamasteMotherfucker

It's interesting how rockets are coming full circle compared to when they were first portrayed in early sci-fi movies and shows and show a rocket landing upright. In the 70s and 80s, I would watch those as a kid and think, "Oh, isn't that quaint how they thought rockets would land," and, well, here we are!


Dont0quote0me

🤞come on pls have a succesfull tower landing with flight 5 (6 or 7)🤞


Internal-Chipmunk518

This is now the coolest thing I've seen today


Minimum-Ad-8056

It's cool, very cool but looking at 1960s-1970s rocket tech I'd thought we'd be much further ahead by now. Especially when looking at a technological piece like the sr71 and the like.


googleyeye

Maybe if we (the US) didn't cut funding for stuff that matters and give it all to defense companies, oil companies, and rich people we'd be in a much better place.


therealdjred

>didn't cut funding for stuff that matters >give it all to defense companies The defense contractors are who build space machines. NASA doesnt build them. For instance boeing built the saturn v.


Drill1

SR71 and B52 are 1950’s tech, but yeah you’re right, we should be much further along.


The-Sturmtiger-Boi

We are? again, look at starship in 2024, it rides utop the super heavy booster, has a dedicated heat shield for atmospheric entry, and has successfully made it to space and even survived partway trough re-entry, IFT-4 will be in a few months and it’ll probably be the culmination of all the testing that happened over the past 5 years.


Whosabouto

"It's cool, very cool but looking at 1960s-1970s rocket tech..." That's military/state, whilst this is private/civilian!!


cryptolyme

Better engineered than the Cybertruck


The-Sturmtiger-Boi

Because SpaceX actually has competent engineers


Rapture_Hunter

Needs a tiny red flag on the end to pop out..."bang".