With bacon all things are possible 🥓.
Oh wait you meant the guy... Well, same logic applied really. Bribe with bacon. Train to respond to commands. Rinse and repeat.
Dog "This is a great game, i get to hang with my owner and be all good boy, show off my obedience, but if you even think about touching her, I have full permission to fuck you up until she says stop, an even better game!!"
Damn so is anyone that approaches her a threat to the doggo or can he pick up on possible intent? Cuz imagine not knowing what kind of dog he is and you try to hug your old pal Brenda and you get wrangled
Some dogs are trained to listen for their owner to make a sound to confirm they’re hurt
Y’all’s points are why it’s important to continue training even after the dog looks like it’s learned
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Definitely training that is too dangerous to be allowed in public. That dog could be triggered by any number of things that it misinterprets as violence.
Not how this works. To put the dog in this mode you use a command, for example, “defense”. She is using “with me” but that’s usually used in conjunction with a different command to defend. “With me” is her command to heel in contact. This is sport training. It’s called mondioring and the exercise is called “defense of owner”. The training is how the dog picks up on intent. Most dogs will understand the difference between playfulness and aggression even without training. This isn’t intended to teach the “attack” as much as it is to solidify their recognition of “intent”.
Yeah, we used to play fight our dad and our dogs would climb on top of him and 'defend' him but they knew we were playing.
There were a couple times at night when one of us was walking the dogs and we'd encounter some dodgy guy, and the dogs would freeze, the hackles would go up and they'd growl. Nothing happened, but the dogs obviously didn't like the look of them for whatever reason.
I cant find it right now but if you want to be amazed look up a study on dogs/wolves, etc where they did CT scans and behavioral studies and its really fascinating how this symbiotic relationship formed. We did domesticate them but they actually evolved as well, the scans showed portions of the brain that are ONLY activated on human interaction and dont work the same in wild dogs, etc. And how a lot of behaviors we know like face licking, jumping, etc are wild dog behaviors adapted to human interaction.
Basically we were only able to domesticate dogs because they essentially CHOSE to be our pets, they recognized the mutual benefit and evolved to be good at it. Like, "Man, these wierd apes give me shelter and food, Im gonna make sure this gravy train keeps running."
It's less that they "chose" and more that they were selectively bred to be friendly.
Dogs that bit the owners hand were not used for reproduction. Dogs with good habits passed onto offspring who were then further domesticated.
They didn't "let" anything happen.
Don't you think that individual dogs can adapt their behavior to gain rewards, though? Learned behavior is a huge influence. The reverse can be true. Abused dogs are often violent or skittish or some mixture of both.
Animals make choices in the wild all of the time. Some have even chosen to adopt human children who got lost in the woods.
Of course, the difference between a strange human and a family member is super obvious to dogs, which makes a difference.
However, dogs (for the most part) treat humans like other dogs! There's a good chance the man was staring at the pups, walking in a straight line, maybe having weird posture, etc. The average canine does *not* like that when they come across such behavior with other dogs, and humans are no different.
My SAR canine *hates* when people stare and talk directly to *her*. Not enough to react inappropriately, but it's clear she's not a fan and often won't appreciate being touched. However, if they're talking and interacting with me instead, she loves them!
Dogs are so silly
Yes and no. There are intended signals and unintended signals. When you train a dog, anything consistent when training becomes part of the pattern that is trained. If the simulated assailant often wears a hat, guess who starts getting targeted. If the owner tenses up slightly prior to giving the command, guess what happens whenever the owner gets tense.
You can capture behavior with commands, this is how to teach a dog to fetch, but the dog will often still fetch a toy if you throw it even without the command unless you train a leave it command, and even then the dog is often just waiting for the release to go get the toy, because the fetch behavior is not trained out by the release command. This type of training causes going for walks to be like holding a Frisbee, ready to throw. Which is fine for a moment but causes dogs to become frustrated and anxious after a while which leads to behavioural problems.
Dogs following unintended signals are a big reason why you only see dogs as a part of security teams in the movies. In real life, guard/attack dogs are a huge liability and the only organization that gets around that liability are the police. Walk down to any data center, powerplant, weapons factory, etc you will not see a single dog.
Most dogs that go through this type of training end up put down or in fosters/shelters after they bite the wrong person or get too anxious for their owners to handle them. The ones that don't are often left neglected in yards because their owners are too scared to take them on walks.
After fostering and working with high bite risk for a little while you learn to hate these types of trainers.
This sums it up perfectly for me.
It's amazing how many people don't realise the behaviours they have that the dog picks up on that they don't even know they are doing.
1000%
I am a professional dog trainer and canine behavior consultant. /u/tehredidt is spot on. While protection training is 'very cool' and amazing to see in person, I cannot advocate for it. I myself have not worked directly with these dogs, as I only take on unlearned aggression cases, but there's a local trainer in my area who does protection training and I HAVE seen the effects it has on some of those canines.
Additionally, in the world of training, it's common knowledge that teaching a dog an action/cue with high rewards will prompt it to perform that behavior more often. For example, teaching your dog to *speak* will promote the dog to bark more. Teaching the cue *shake* will promote your dog to place its paws on you more. Not always, but it happens damn near enough it's one of the first questions I ask during consultations. These animals get taught it's 'okay' to bite. All it takes is one instance engaging with the wrong target and/or being too over aroused to follow the release command...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on dog training. While overall your concerns have merit I will have to respectfully disagree since it seems you are only telling half of the story. I am going to speak about Mondioring for the moment since that is what I currently train and also is what you see here in this video, though I have extensive experience in many different sports as well as pure protection training.
With all that said, you bring up some important points about the risks of unintended signals and the potential for behavioral issues. However, when it comes to a structured sport like Mondioring, there are several factors that you seem to not understand or are not taking into account
Mondioring operates within a highly regulated framework. The sport has clear, consistent commands and routines, which helps reduce the chances of dogs picking up unintended signals. This structured setting minimizes confusion and anxiety, making the training more effective and safer for both the dog and the handler.
Training in Mondioring isn't just about protection work; it includes obedience and agility too. This balanced approach ensures that dogs aren't solely focused on aggression. Instead, they're well-rounded and trained to respond appropriately to various situations, which helps prevent them from becoming overly aggressive or anxious in non-training contexts.
Safety and control are key aspects of Mondioring. Trainers and handlers work hard to ensure dogs only act on specific commands. This reduces the risk of unintended aggression or misbehavior outside of training sessions, which is a crucial part of managing high-energy, high-drive dogs.
Another important element of Mondioring training is desensitization and socialization. Dogs are exposed to different environments, people, and scenarios to help them learn to distinguish between real threats and everyday situations. This exposure helps reduce anxiety and reactivity, making the dogs more reliable and stable.
Mondioring competitions and training sessions are overseen by experienced judges and trainers. They ensure that the training methods used are ethical and effective, maintaining high standards and preventing harmful practices. This professional oversight is essential in keeping the training safe and humane.
Finally, Mondioring is designed to be mentally engaging for dogs, providing them with a sense of purpose. This mental stimulation helps prevent the frustration and behavioral problems that can come from boredom, making the dogs happier and more well-adjusted.
While any training can have unintended consequences if not done correctly, Mondioring's structured, balanced, and professional approach addresses many of these concerns. By focusing on control, safety, and comprehensive training, Mondioring makes it possible to train dogs effectively for protection sports without the negative outcomes you mentioned.
Additionally, I want to add that I have NEVER been afraid to take my dogs on walks and do so twice per day. We also train professionally / formally 3+ times per week and informally the rest of the week. We interact with people pets and wild animals of all sorts daily, on and off lead. Training isn’t just about the animal. The most unpredictable creatures are the owners of untrained animals. I would be willing to wager that a properly trained, engaged, and up kept animal has far less incidence of harm to human or another animal than untrained.
Edit: If you aren’t willing to put in the time, patience and work necessary for a high drive dog please reconsider your choices.
Because it is.
In their comment here you can literally see the citations as openAI citing studies: https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/s/4EIKPybly8
It also wrongly cites 2 ads for protection dog services as studies, and one irrelevant study about aversive dog training techniques being ineffective three times thinking it is different articles.
I trained police K9s for 6 years. The dog is focused on the bite suit. Anyone who walks up in a suit like that the dogs personality will immediately change and he will be ready for this type of little show. But what really means the dog is protective is when there is no suit. Just a normal day, normal situation. The dog will be given a bite command and likely will look for a suit to bite or grab clothes....bad. you want a full mouth bite and locked on. So the better training is with the dog in a muzzle and guy with no suit.
Agreed. Looking at the dog it seemed to be desperate for the chance to bite and just waiting for the moment rather than reading the situation and be ready to protect if need be.
Whether that was the suit that triggered it or the training I don't know but I personally wouldn't go within 20 feet of a dog behaving like that, however well I knew the owner.
That dog wants to bite because it gets praised for biting at the right time. He looks like a malinois or other shepherd/guardian breed dog. Those breeds are extremely smart and trainable. They love to have a job and they *need* it or they'll be a terror. This dog is just super focused on his 'job'.
Dog saw the setup, saw the guy in the suit, he knew it would be go time soon and he'd get to do his job and make the people happy.
During non-training time the dog is just gonna be velcro to its owner and will protect their owner if an attack occurs.
But these dogs do need major and stimulation or they can be terrors in their own right. Malinois are known for being a bit 'mouthy' which has earned them the nickname malligator, particularly as puppies. Great dogs, but extremely high maintenance.
Ex air force k9 here. I get what your saying with the fixation of the suit. Never trained aggressively with a muscle on though. Isnt that really frustrating for the dog as it cant get its reward?
I trained my dog to sit. She can be happy as Larry, but when I use that sit command, you better believe she's ready for action! It's bums on floor time and nobody is getting in her way!
Haha, i knew a dog once who was a bit dumb. She was a very good girl, but she had to go to dog school twice because she failed the first time. But after some time she could do the sit command and she was so fucking proud of herself when she managed to do it. "Look! I'm sitting! My bum is on the floor! LOOK! I'm the best dog in the world, nobody sits like me!"
So you’re sorta right if you want a personal protection dog.
This is Denise Fenzi and she pretty explicitly trains the opposite. She only does it as a sport. She’s training for mondio and actively trains the dog to only bite the suit. She doesn’t want protection, just does the sport.
Those who train it for a sport don’t use aggression for the bite. They are only use prey drive to encourage the bite.
They're way smart and can read the situation and the owner. I use to work alongside military dogs and they were great family dogs. But they knew when they arrived at work and what to do. Tbh some were smarter than a lot of people I know ..
Dogs are smart indeed. But to be smarter than many humans, i mean the bar is pretty damn low there. Snails are smarter than some people i know, a doorknobs iq might just be on par tho
Hopefully they’ve been trained that way. I saw a nice demo of a guy like this interacting affectionately with the owner while the dog looked on unbothered, and only when he started touching her aggressively he attacked. I’m a little less sure that the same thing would happen with this guy.
He slaps her on the back which is pretty easy to miss, but that's where the sound is coming from prior to his response. He hits her so the dog attacks the man. Prior to that, he's just neutrally guarding her.
The dog was like
"C'mon Brenda, let me bite. Just one small bite. Please please please, just a dent. I promise I won't hurt too much... Go ahead guy, give me a reason, just one, I want to practice my teet.... \*slaps\* AHAAAA GOTCHA!"
I imagine that at least a portion of this is that the dog has been trained that the attack proof suit is a sign of potential trouble. No way around it really because they have to have protective gear but that gear will eventually automatically put the dog on alert.
When my uncle’s old police dog was a puppy I wore a long sleeve hoodie one day and the pup didn’t know what to do with it! I was sitting next to him and he kept questioningly putting his teeth on my sleeve like the command was going to come at any second haha, but at that point it was all a game to him and he was very good about not actually doing anything unless commanded.
Never showed that kind of behavior again. The dogs are intelligent and it’s trained out of them quickly
I’m convinced that videos like this probably just lead to an increase in unsuitable owners of dogs like the Belgian malinois and subsequently more attacks/injuries as a result
I agree with this. My friend had a mal. My friend did so much with her and the dog had all its needs met physically and mentally which took a huge amount of work and effort.
You couldn’t pat this dog you had to respect her space at all times. When people would come over she was usually crated but some people could be trusted to just exist with the dog and not try and touch her or look at her. She once came and leaned on me which was both an honour and also terrifying haha but she was a great dog and my friend gave her the best life.
Mals needs a special sort of owner. I would LOVE a map they are amazing but I don’t have the time, energy or desire to put the work that’s required. It makes me sad that they are becoming popular now because the will end up with people who can’t manage them.
Mal and GSD cross has been the most wonderful experience for me. Have 2 and they are amazing. They have energy to play all day but then can also calm down for 6 hours in a car, or sitting inside on a stormy day. They will let you know when someone they don’t expect comes around, but they are the smartest dogs I’ve ever seen firsthand. Super sweet…unless you’re a squirrel. Maybe we just got lucky but they don’t have that meth head energy at all times like a straight mal does. Idk if it helps but it made my dream of having one come true
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I always wonder if the dogs have a relationship with the "attacker" in these training sessions, or if they have to use different trainers each time so the dog doesnt get confused or think "nah that's just jeff, all clear guys"
I was watching the dog with that kinda thing in mind. Whwn the dog does a fake bite i thought. Maybe the dog loves this guy because he can play rough. But he has to get the all clear to play rough.
Like the dog looks like he LOVES that trainer.
" i love jeff, he lets me go full force AND calls me a good boy after"
This dog does not see the guy as a threat or an attacker. He thinks it's a game. He's just working for reward, they dont train them to be scared of people, or at least they very seriously shouldnt lol or you get unpredictable and very very dangerous behavior. If it's really trained behavior then pup would bite his best friend on command because he was taught that that's what gets him rewarded, simple as that.
this kinda training is kinda a problem for a lot of other reasons but for the dog hes just chillin and having fun, same as a dog doing something like agility.
"Accident waiting to happen" is exactly what I was thinking. I used to work near a kennels and they sometimes looked after a trained "guard dog". The thing was bonkers. Once you train a dog to do things like that it will do it. Then it's lap of the gods stuff whether it only does it in the hopefully tiny % of situations it's meant to.
>Once you train a dog to do things like that it will do it.
I get regular exposure to working dogs through work. Their handlers aren't exactly nervous taking them around people, but will 100% tell you to back up if you get close because you might get bit. The best trained dogs are still dogs.
Absolutely bonkers to want this at home or around strangers on a regular basis.
Once did a sidewalk job for a military k-9 unit. We had to cancel and come back the following week after the dogs had been moved. They were hurting themselves trying to chew through chain-link fencing to get at our scents outside the kennel. Two of the dogs couldnt be handled by anyone but their partner because they would attack anyone else on sight.
People wanting attack dogs at home are insane.
I get one lady at work that brings in a pair of huge dogs to wash. Says they're guard dogs, theyre supposed to be aggressive. She has to go through the store to make sure there are no other pets (and I suspect kids) cause those things weigh twice as much as she does and have 30x more strength- she will not be able to control those dogs if they decide to attack another pet or person. They barely listen to her going through the store. I'm afraid of the day that someone has a puppy inside when she takes one out of the bath.
Why would anyone ever want a dog like that.
I'm friends with an ex-police officer and he has fond (but pretty scary) stories about training with them as a recruit and things that happened during his service.
It's interesting to hear different accounts of people who work/have worked with similar dogs. Ultimately the only way to see if the dog in the video understands and potentially isn't going to bite someone unless they're in a bite suit it to try it and I am not volunteering for that!!!
This was what I was warned of. Have two GSD/Belgian Malinois, and originally I wanted them to be trained for protection as my fiance does a lot of road trips/camping with the dogs. But we live on a horse farm with lots of clients and many are children. I was concerned that any misinterpretation would be catastrophic. In the end I’m glad we didn’t do it because the dogs have such a loving playful temperament.
Besides, those types of dogs, by their mere presence, make attackers wary. I don’t attack people, but if I did, I’d stay away from anyone with a GSD/Malinois, whether they were friendly or not!
This is exactly the situation with ours. In the event of a real attack I don’t think they would know what to do. But their presence is hopefully enough of a deterrent. Especially when they are heeling. One on each side in formation. NGL it looks cool
I have a golden. If somebody broke in my house she would offer to hold their flashlight.
But she has a deep bark. So when somebody comes to the door, they are always cautious….. until the see her.
From my very limited knowledge I believe if a dog is a protection dog it’s not really a pet. You can’t expect a dog to be social and cuddly and fun and never misread a cue for danger. That’s just not fair.
Just dont wear a bite suit and you will be fine. This is not good protection training because the dog is focused on the bite suit not the person. The moment they dog sees a bite suit he immediately knows he's about to do this little show they put on. It's not anything special.
Now if the dog was properly trained (with a muzzle and no suit) then you have a dog that may bite a person.
The suit thing is a show. I trained k9s for 6 years. This dog won't bite a person in the shirt and shorts because he's conditioned to work with a suit....but a real scenario there will be no suit so he's likely worthless. It's a show for the owner who does not know much about real protection
The woman is Denise Fenzi, who's a fairly well known dog trainer. She's well aware that her dog is being trained to bite the suit. He's a sport dog, not a protection dog.
I once got bitten in the face by a family member's dog I didn't trust before hand (since they got the dog), because they thought it would be cool to make a picture of me and the dog in a cabrio.
It is. I know someone with the same breed and training and it is so awful being around them. They say just act normal and it'll be fine, but it's so hard to just act normal with that in the room. As soon as you do something "out of the ordinary" like lift your hand up to quickly or get up too quickly, the dog jerks, then you jerk, then the dog sees it as a threat. Can't have new people in the office, because they don't know that they should act half catatonic or the dog will run towards them to inspect and if you act defensive (for obvious fkkn reasons) the dog goes "on guard".
That's the big issue with training like this that nobody talks about. Law enforcement and military dogs are trained based on commands so that they are specifically controllable, and even then their handlers are aware of the danger and keep others away. This dog is purely relying on mannerisms, which vary **widely** from person to person.
Note that the person in the video is Denise Fenzi, however, who is a very famous force free/purely positive trainer. She does not use any punishment or tools (prongs, e collars etc) in her training.
The problem is that I wouldn't trust any dog to make the right call on who's trying to hurt its owner 100% of the time. Even if its right 99.99% of the time it still might attack someone at any time just going in for a hug or moving towards her a little too quickly. Especially children can do unexpected things and it only takes a second for the dog to maim them.
Just look at the contradiction in your comment. When you first came over they had to make sure she was muzzled, if the dog was completely safe they wouldn't have had to do that.
A neighbour of mine used to train these dogs. We were only allowed as a child to the dogs when they were a puppy. The dogs are very submissive though, they do exactly as their boss says. They aren't always agressive though.
My parents went to a trainer for their pet malinois shepherd mix. She wasn't in any bite training but while waiting for a class she saw other dogs doing bite training with the trainer. She had issues at the classes since and my parents are looking for a new trainer. At the last one she was so riled up she wouldn't even leave the car.
This is Denise Fenzi! A pioneer in dog sports! She’s one of the first to start training high level competition dogs using all positive reinforcement methods.
He's trained for sport. He'll only ever go after someone in a suit and is a completely different dog when not given the command to defend. I know the dog personally and have been around him and Denise before. The most threatening thing he does is bump into you because he's a little clumsy.
If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't comment or make judgments about other people.
Info is really helpful and if you arent lying about it, then thats great that the dog knows whos friendly and whos not. I take back my comment, then.
But i was in no way judging anybody? From my point of view the dog seemed incapable of being a regular house pet, thats all. That is pretty disrespectful
The name of the woman is Denise Fenzi. Here are the links to the video on her social media accounts:
* [Instagram](https://instagram.com/p/C61GhqBricp)
* [Facebook](https://facebook.com/watch/?v=3283950075232976)
* [TikTok](https://tiktok.com/@denisefenzi/video/7367733276116585770)
This is Denise Fenzi and her dog Xen!! She’s an amazing trainer and offers TONS of free and affordable courses and training resources through Fenzi Dog Academy!
Impressive. But also not something your avg joe should attempt or need. Tbh any dog would do the trick against me as a guard dog. I'm allergic, basically biological warfare at that point.
Well trained beautiful dog,love it, but the amazing thing here is the negativity and hate in most of the comments, why is most of the people here always so miserable?
Most people don't know the first thing about dogs or sports training, I can see how this is unnerving if you don't know anything about training, but it is sad to see all the negativity.
same dog biting the handler - note the lack of aggression as the dog switches from suit to toy, even with the handler (me) on the ground. see how it’s a game? he’s not trying to hurt me: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2XbHySrP-S/?igsh=MWo4NDc4YWxneHV0eg==
I wonder what kind of a-hole you need to be before you decide you need a dog that does this, especially when you're just hanging with the tellytubby putting the dooblydoo on the wet floor hoozywhatsits.
Mals are something else. Once read a comparison of a German Shepherd and a Malinois that continues to ring true. “A GSD will chase a bad guy off a cliff, a Mal will bite him to death on the way down.”
Dogs like: "these guys wearing thick layers are always up to no good"
"why she keep hanging out with these people?"
It’s like she always attracts bad boys! Except me, I’m a good boy!
She can change them.
Would be nice if they can change into a pair of shorts for once so I can really raw dog them.
Ayo??
You know right through the flesh and bone them. Raw like.
HI, MY NAMES DOG TRAINER AND THIS IS 'LEG BITE'
💀💀💀
With bacon all things are possible 🥓. Oh wait you meant the guy... Well, same logic applied really. Bribe with bacon. Train to respond to commands. Rinse and repeat.
OK, that one hit the line, and I lost my shit to laughter. Well done
she is trained to attract the bad boys.
And I’m trained to attack them. We are made for each other!
Poor bad boys
Best Boi!
Now the dog is suspicious of every person in winter clothes he sees!
dog: "he was asking for it dressed like that"
Winter news headline: "Lady takes her dog to ski resort. 43 skiers attacked."
Better steer away from doggos when in your high Winter attire.
I know right? hehe
if u 6ft tall 3ft wide russian then yea
They'd have a field day at a skiing resort
I will never dare to get close to the owner 😀
Rip teh Batmans of Times Square
Dog is thinking "when do I get to do my trick?"
exactly
Oh shit, that’s a good point. Do cop dogs see someone in a ski suit and assume they’re the bad guy?
Dog "This is a great game, i get to hang with my owner and be all good boy, show off my obedience, but if you even think about touching her, I have full permission to fuck you up until she says stop, an even better game!!"
He's dressed like a movie Russian gangster.
Woman trained her dog to bully Russians. We are watching discrimination.
Lmao, true. That's just winter variant
For a moment, i thought he was the lovechild of Adam Sandler and Ben Stiller
Damn so is anyone that approaches her a threat to the doggo or can he pick up on possible intent? Cuz imagine not knowing what kind of dog he is and you try to hug your old pal Brenda and you get wrangled
He heard the slap and then attacked
What if she high-fived Brenda and it sounded like a slap?
What if Brenda is slapping with her hubby
Then Brenda's got a baby but Brenda's barely got a brain A damn shame, the girl can hardly spell her name
That's not our problem, that's up to Brenda's family. Well, let me show ya how it affects our whole community.
Some dogs are trained to listen for their owner to make a sound to confirm they’re hurt Y’all’s points are why it’s important to continue training even after the dog looks like it’s learned
I like how out of all the threads you could've chosen to add this necessary explanation to, it's on a reply of 2 guys quoting Tupac
I was dying…😂thx for telling them…🤷🏻♂️
Lmfao i replied to the wrong person Way funnier this way thanks
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Thank you! Very clever. I would never have worked that out.
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Dog is like: How can she slap?? How can she slap??
To be honest, at that point, doggo is slapping Brenda. Husband is at the store buying dog food.
How can she slap?
Prepare to die I guess.
What if the dog catches someone in bed with her?
Definitely training that is too dangerous to be allowed in public. That dog could be triggered by any number of things that it misinterprets as violence.
Not how this works. To put the dog in this mode you use a command, for example, “defense”. She is using “with me” but that’s usually used in conjunction with a different command to defend. “With me” is her command to heel in contact. This is sport training. It’s called mondioring and the exercise is called “defense of owner”. The training is how the dog picks up on intent. Most dogs will understand the difference between playfulness and aggression even without training. This isn’t intended to teach the “attack” as much as it is to solidify their recognition of “intent”.
Yeah, we used to play fight our dad and our dogs would climb on top of him and 'defend' him but they knew we were playing. There were a couple times at night when one of us was walking the dogs and we'd encounter some dodgy guy, and the dogs would freeze, the hackles would go up and they'd growl. Nothing happened, but the dogs obviously didn't like the look of them for whatever reason.
Dogs are amazing
I cant find it right now but if you want to be amazed look up a study on dogs/wolves, etc where they did CT scans and behavioral studies and its really fascinating how this symbiotic relationship formed. We did domesticate them but they actually evolved as well, the scans showed portions of the brain that are ONLY activated on human interaction and dont work the same in wild dogs, etc. And how a lot of behaviors we know like face licking, jumping, etc are wild dog behaviors adapted to human interaction. Basically we were only able to domesticate dogs because they essentially CHOSE to be our pets, they recognized the mutual benefit and evolved to be good at it. Like, "Man, these wierd apes give me shelter and food, Im gonna make sure this gravy train keeps running."
It's less that they "chose" and more that they were selectively bred to be friendly. Dogs that bit the owners hand were not used for reproduction. Dogs with good habits passed onto offspring who were then further domesticated. They didn't "let" anything happen.
Don't you think that individual dogs can adapt their behavior to gain rewards, though? Learned behavior is a huge influence. The reverse can be true. Abused dogs are often violent or skittish or some mixture of both. Animals make choices in the wild all of the time. Some have even chosen to adopt human children who got lost in the woods.
Thanks for sharing that!
Of course, the difference between a strange human and a family member is super obvious to dogs, which makes a difference. However, dogs (for the most part) treat humans like other dogs! There's a good chance the man was staring at the pups, walking in a straight line, maybe having weird posture, etc. The average canine does *not* like that when they come across such behavior with other dogs, and humans are no different. My SAR canine *hates* when people stare and talk directly to *her*. Not enough to react inappropriately, but it's clear she's not a fan and often won't appreciate being touched. However, if they're talking and interacting with me instead, she loves them! Dogs are so silly
The dog could also have picked up on that the stranger made you nervous
Yes and no. There are intended signals and unintended signals. When you train a dog, anything consistent when training becomes part of the pattern that is trained. If the simulated assailant often wears a hat, guess who starts getting targeted. If the owner tenses up slightly prior to giving the command, guess what happens whenever the owner gets tense. You can capture behavior with commands, this is how to teach a dog to fetch, but the dog will often still fetch a toy if you throw it even without the command unless you train a leave it command, and even then the dog is often just waiting for the release to go get the toy, because the fetch behavior is not trained out by the release command. This type of training causes going for walks to be like holding a Frisbee, ready to throw. Which is fine for a moment but causes dogs to become frustrated and anxious after a while which leads to behavioural problems. Dogs following unintended signals are a big reason why you only see dogs as a part of security teams in the movies. In real life, guard/attack dogs are a huge liability and the only organization that gets around that liability are the police. Walk down to any data center, powerplant, weapons factory, etc you will not see a single dog. Most dogs that go through this type of training end up put down or in fosters/shelters after they bite the wrong person or get too anxious for their owners to handle them. The ones that don't are often left neglected in yards because their owners are too scared to take them on walks. After fostering and working with high bite risk for a little while you learn to hate these types of trainers.
This sums it up perfectly for me. It's amazing how many people don't realise the behaviours they have that the dog picks up on that they don't even know they are doing.
1000% I am a professional dog trainer and canine behavior consultant. /u/tehredidt is spot on. While protection training is 'very cool' and amazing to see in person, I cannot advocate for it. I myself have not worked directly with these dogs, as I only take on unlearned aggression cases, but there's a local trainer in my area who does protection training and I HAVE seen the effects it has on some of those canines. Additionally, in the world of training, it's common knowledge that teaching a dog an action/cue with high rewards will prompt it to perform that behavior more often. For example, teaching your dog to *speak* will promote the dog to bark more. Teaching the cue *shake* will promote your dog to place its paws on you more. Not always, but it happens damn near enough it's one of the first questions I ask during consultations. These animals get taught it's 'okay' to bite. All it takes is one instance engaging with the wrong target and/or being too over aroused to follow the release command...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on dog training. While overall your concerns have merit I will have to respectfully disagree since it seems you are only telling half of the story. I am going to speak about Mondioring for the moment since that is what I currently train and also is what you see here in this video, though I have extensive experience in many different sports as well as pure protection training. With all that said, you bring up some important points about the risks of unintended signals and the potential for behavioral issues. However, when it comes to a structured sport like Mondioring, there are several factors that you seem to not understand or are not taking into account Mondioring operates within a highly regulated framework. The sport has clear, consistent commands and routines, which helps reduce the chances of dogs picking up unintended signals. This structured setting minimizes confusion and anxiety, making the training more effective and safer for both the dog and the handler. Training in Mondioring isn't just about protection work; it includes obedience and agility too. This balanced approach ensures that dogs aren't solely focused on aggression. Instead, they're well-rounded and trained to respond appropriately to various situations, which helps prevent them from becoming overly aggressive or anxious in non-training contexts. Safety and control are key aspects of Mondioring. Trainers and handlers work hard to ensure dogs only act on specific commands. This reduces the risk of unintended aggression or misbehavior outside of training sessions, which is a crucial part of managing high-energy, high-drive dogs. Another important element of Mondioring training is desensitization and socialization. Dogs are exposed to different environments, people, and scenarios to help them learn to distinguish between real threats and everyday situations. This exposure helps reduce anxiety and reactivity, making the dogs more reliable and stable. Mondioring competitions and training sessions are overseen by experienced judges and trainers. They ensure that the training methods used are ethical and effective, maintaining high standards and preventing harmful practices. This professional oversight is essential in keeping the training safe and humane. Finally, Mondioring is designed to be mentally engaging for dogs, providing them with a sense of purpose. This mental stimulation helps prevent the frustration and behavioral problems that can come from boredom, making the dogs happier and more well-adjusted. While any training can have unintended consequences if not done correctly, Mondioring's structured, balanced, and professional approach addresses many of these concerns. By focusing on control, safety, and comprehensive training, Mondioring makes it possible to train dogs effectively for protection sports without the negative outcomes you mentioned. Additionally, I want to add that I have NEVER been afraid to take my dogs on walks and do so twice per day. We also train professionally / formally 3+ times per week and informally the rest of the week. We interact with people pets and wild animals of all sorts daily, on and off lead. Training isn’t just about the animal. The most unpredictable creatures are the owners of untrained animals. I would be willing to wager that a properly trained, engaged, and up kept animal has far less incidence of harm to human or another animal than untrained. Edit: If you aren’t willing to put in the time, patience and work necessary for a high drive dog please reconsider your choices.
This reads like AI lmao
Because it is. In their comment here you can literally see the citations as openAI citing studies: https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/s/4EIKPybly8 It also wrongly cites 2 ads for protection dog services as studies, and one irrelevant study about aversive dog training techniques being ineffective three times thinking it is different articles.
Haha yeah I noticed that in their other comment. How silly to rely on AI for arguments and not even double checking sources.
This guy dogs. ...wait.
I trained police K9s for 6 years. The dog is focused on the bite suit. Anyone who walks up in a suit like that the dogs personality will immediately change and he will be ready for this type of little show. But what really means the dog is protective is when there is no suit. Just a normal day, normal situation. The dog will be given a bite command and likely will look for a suit to bite or grab clothes....bad. you want a full mouth bite and locked on. So the better training is with the dog in a muzzle and guy with no suit.
> The dog is focused on the bite suit. That's what it seemed like to me. He was looking at that dude like a giant chew toy just ready to play.
I thought he was the guy with the treats
Agreed. Looking at the dog it seemed to be desperate for the chance to bite and just waiting for the moment rather than reading the situation and be ready to protect if need be. Whether that was the suit that triggered it or the training I don't know but I personally wouldn't go within 20 feet of a dog behaving like that, however well I knew the owner.
That dog wants to bite because it gets praised for biting at the right time. He looks like a malinois or other shepherd/guardian breed dog. Those breeds are extremely smart and trainable. They love to have a job and they *need* it or they'll be a terror. This dog is just super focused on his 'job'. Dog saw the setup, saw the guy in the suit, he knew it would be go time soon and he'd get to do his job and make the people happy. During non-training time the dog is just gonna be velcro to its owner and will protect their owner if an attack occurs. But these dogs do need major and stimulation or they can be terrors in their own right. Malinois are known for being a bit 'mouthy' which has earned them the nickname malligator, particularly as puppies. Great dogs, but extremely high maintenance.
Ex air force k9 here. I get what your saying with the fixation of the suit. Never trained aggressively with a muscle on though. Isnt that really frustrating for the dog as it cant get its reward?
I trained my dog to sit. She can be happy as Larry, but when I use that sit command, you better believe she's ready for action! It's bums on floor time and nobody is getting in her way!
Haha, i knew a dog once who was a bit dumb. She was a very good girl, but she had to go to dog school twice because she failed the first time. But after some time she could do the sit command and she was so fucking proud of herself when she managed to do it. "Look! I'm sitting! My bum is on the floor! LOOK! I'm the best dog in the world, nobody sits like me!"
So you’re sorta right if you want a personal protection dog. This is Denise Fenzi and she pretty explicitly trains the opposite. She only does it as a sport. She’s training for mondio and actively trains the dog to only bite the suit. She doesn’t want protection, just does the sport. Those who train it for a sport don’t use aggression for the bite. They are only use prey drive to encourage the bite.
correct. thank you.
They're way smart and can read the situation and the owner. I use to work alongside military dogs and they were great family dogs. But they knew when they arrived at work and what to do. Tbh some were smarter than a lot of people I know ..
Dogs are smart indeed. But to be smarter than many humans, i mean the bar is pretty damn low there. Snails are smarter than some people i know, a doorknobs iq might just be on par tho
Hopefully they’ve been trained that way. I saw a nice demo of a guy like this interacting affectionately with the owner while the dog looked on unbothered, and only when he started touching her aggressively he attacked. I’m a little less sure that the same thing would happen with this guy.
He slaps her on the back which is pretty easy to miss, but that's where the sound is coming from prior to his response. He hits her so the dog attacks the man. Prior to that, he's just neutrally guarding her.
I mean the guy slapped the woman on the back pretty loud 🤣 I think that did it
She says: “with me” which is a key warning/order ( they need to be simple and easy to understand for you good boi) for doggo to be alert
The dog was like "C'mon Brenda, let me bite. Just one small bite. Please please please, just a dent. I promise I won't hurt too much... Go ahead guy, give me a reason, just one, I want to practice my teet.... \*slaps\* AHAAAA GOTCHA!"
It’s all a game for them, see the happy body language, it knows exactly when to “attack” when the sign is given
I had to watch it twice, I thought the same thing. He definitely made a move the dog picked up on.
I imagine that at least a portion of this is that the dog has been trained that the attack proof suit is a sign of potential trouble. No way around it really because they have to have protective gear but that gear will eventually automatically put the dog on alert.
Hey look at my cool new winter jacket and snow paAAAAAAAA!!!!
This made me giggle
When my uncle’s old police dog was a puppy I wore a long sleeve hoodie one day and the pup didn’t know what to do with it! I was sitting next to him and he kept questioningly putting his teeth on my sleeve like the command was going to come at any second haha, but at that point it was all a game to him and he was very good about not actually doing anything unless commanded. Never showed that kind of behavior again. The dogs are intelligent and it’s trained out of them quickly
I've seen enough police dogs to know they don't care about a suit
you can alternate the gear
My dog can fart...
He/she sounds like a very good boy/girl
Based on the “my dog can fart”? Don’t set the bar that high!
My dog is scared of her own farts
On command??
Stick a pinwheel near its ass and you got yourself an entertaintment
Granny is going to get her leg bitten off when she goes for a hug
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I’m convinced that videos like this probably just lead to an increase in unsuitable owners of dogs like the Belgian malinois and subsequently more attacks/injuries as a result
I agree with this. My friend had a mal. My friend did so much with her and the dog had all its needs met physically and mentally which took a huge amount of work and effort. You couldn’t pat this dog you had to respect her space at all times. When people would come over she was usually crated but some people could be trusted to just exist with the dog and not try and touch her or look at her. She once came and leaned on me which was both an honour and also terrifying haha but she was a great dog and my friend gave her the best life. Mals needs a special sort of owner. I would LOVE a map they are amazing but I don’t have the time, energy or desire to put the work that’s required. It makes me sad that they are becoming popular now because the will end up with people who can’t manage them.
Mal and GSD cross has been the most wonderful experience for me. Have 2 and they are amazing. They have energy to play all day but then can also calm down for 6 hours in a car, or sitting inside on a stormy day. They will let you know when someone they don’t expect comes around, but they are the smartest dogs I’ve ever seen firsthand. Super sweet…unless you’re a squirrel. Maybe we just got lucky but they don’t have that meth head energy at all times like a straight mal does. Idk if it helps but it made my dream of having one come true
This is what I have, and she has that same temperament!
This is a multiple certified trainer. She has a dog sport school. FenziDogSportsAcademy.com
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Agreed
I always wonder if the dogs have a relationship with the "attacker" in these training sessions, or if they have to use different trainers each time so the dog doesnt get confused or think "nah that's just jeff, all clear guys"
I was watching the dog with that kinda thing in mind. Whwn the dog does a fake bite i thought. Maybe the dog loves this guy because he can play rough. But he has to get the all clear to play rough. Like the dog looks like he LOVES that trainer. " i love jeff, he lets me go full force AND calls me a good boy after"
This dog does not see the guy as a threat or an attacker. He thinks it's a game. He's just working for reward, they dont train them to be scared of people, or at least they very seriously shouldnt lol or you get unpredictable and very very dangerous behavior. If it's really trained behavior then pup would bite his best friend on command because he was taught that that's what gets him rewarded, simple as that. this kinda training is kinda a problem for a lot of other reasons but for the dog hes just chillin and having fun, same as a dog doing something like agility.
The dog knows the attacker and knows this is training. That's why it stops the attack so easily.
I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that dog, even if I were friends with the owner. Seems like an accident waiting to happen.
"Accident waiting to happen" is exactly what I was thinking. I used to work near a kennels and they sometimes looked after a trained "guard dog". The thing was bonkers. Once you train a dog to do things like that it will do it. Then it's lap of the gods stuff whether it only does it in the hopefully tiny % of situations it's meant to.
>Once you train a dog to do things like that it will do it. I get regular exposure to working dogs through work. Their handlers aren't exactly nervous taking them around people, but will 100% tell you to back up if you get close because you might get bit. The best trained dogs are still dogs. Absolutely bonkers to want this at home or around strangers on a regular basis.
Once did a sidewalk job for a military k-9 unit. We had to cancel and come back the following week after the dogs had been moved. They were hurting themselves trying to chew through chain-link fencing to get at our scents outside the kennel. Two of the dogs couldnt be handled by anyone but their partner because they would attack anyone else on sight. People wanting attack dogs at home are insane.
I get one lady at work that brings in a pair of huge dogs to wash. Says they're guard dogs, theyre supposed to be aggressive. She has to go through the store to make sure there are no other pets (and I suspect kids) cause those things weigh twice as much as she does and have 30x more strength- she will not be able to control those dogs if they decide to attack another pet or person. They barely listen to her going through the store. I'm afraid of the day that someone has a puppy inside when she takes one out of the bath. Why would anyone ever want a dog like that.
I'm friends with an ex-police officer and he has fond (but pretty scary) stories about training with them as a recruit and things that happened during his service. It's interesting to hear different accounts of people who work/have worked with similar dogs. Ultimately the only way to see if the dog in the video understands and potentially isn't going to bite someone unless they're in a bite suit it to try it and I am not volunteering for that!!!
This was what I was warned of. Have two GSD/Belgian Malinois, and originally I wanted them to be trained for protection as my fiance does a lot of road trips/camping with the dogs. But we live on a horse farm with lots of clients and many are children. I was concerned that any misinterpretation would be catastrophic. In the end I’m glad we didn’t do it because the dogs have such a loving playful temperament.
Besides, those types of dogs, by their mere presence, make attackers wary. I don’t attack people, but if I did, I’d stay away from anyone with a GSD/Malinois, whether they were friendly or not!
This is exactly the situation with ours. In the event of a real attack I don’t think they would know what to do. But their presence is hopefully enough of a deterrent. Especially when they are heeling. One on each side in formation. NGL it looks cool
I have a golden. If somebody broke in my house she would offer to hold their flashlight. But she has a deep bark. So when somebody comes to the door, they are always cautious….. until the see her.
From my very limited knowledge I believe if a dog is a protection dog it’s not really a pet. You can’t expect a dog to be social and cuddly and fun and never misread a cue for danger. That’s just not fair.
Just dont wear a bite suit and you will be fine. This is not good protection training because the dog is focused on the bite suit not the person. The moment they dog sees a bite suit he immediately knows he's about to do this little show they put on. It's not anything special. Now if the dog was properly trained (with a muzzle and no suit) then you have a dog that may bite a person. The suit thing is a show. I trained k9s for 6 years. This dog won't bite a person in the shirt and shorts because he's conditioned to work with a suit....but a real scenario there will be no suit so he's likely worthless. It's a show for the owner who does not know much about real protection
Grifting people who want attack dogs by giving them fake attack dogs is some wild chaotic good shit.
The woman is Denise Fenzi, who's a fairly well known dog trainer. She's well aware that her dog is being trained to bite the suit. He's a sport dog, not a protection dog.
Pass
I once got bitten in the face by a family member's dog I didn't trust before hand (since they got the dog), because they thought it would be cool to make a picture of me and the dog in a cabrio.
This dog would be a solid reason to not be friends with the owner anymore.
It is. I know someone with the same breed and training and it is so awful being around them. They say just act normal and it'll be fine, but it's so hard to just act normal with that in the room. As soon as you do something "out of the ordinary" like lift your hand up to quickly or get up too quickly, the dog jerks, then you jerk, then the dog sees it as a threat. Can't have new people in the office, because they don't know that they should act half catatonic or the dog will run towards them to inspect and if you act defensive (for obvious fkkn reasons) the dog goes "on guard".
That's the big issue with training like this that nobody talks about. Law enforcement and military dogs are trained based on commands so that they are specifically controllable, and even then their handlers are aware of the danger and keep others away. This dog is purely relying on mannerisms, which vary **widely** from person to person.
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Note that the person in the video is Denise Fenzi, however, who is a very famous force free/purely positive trainer. She does not use any punishment or tools (prongs, e collars etc) in her training.
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The problem is that I wouldn't trust any dog to make the right call on who's trying to hurt its owner 100% of the time. Even if its right 99.99% of the time it still might attack someone at any time just going in for a hug or moving towards her a little too quickly. Especially children can do unexpected things and it only takes a second for the dog to maim them. Just look at the contradiction in your comment. When you first came over they had to make sure she was muzzled, if the dog was completely safe they wouldn't have had to do that.
A neighbour of mine used to train these dogs. We were only allowed as a child to the dogs when they were a puppy. The dogs are very submissive though, they do exactly as their boss says. They aren't always agressive though.
How dare you, Sugarpuff has never bitten *anyone* over the age of 3
This makes me extremely uncomfortable and i would never, EVER approach a friend who has a dog with this kind of "training".
My parents went to a trainer for their pet malinois shepherd mix. She wasn't in any bite training but while waiting for a class she saw other dogs doing bite training with the trainer. She had issues at the classes since and my parents are looking for a new trainer. At the last one she was so riled up she wouldn't even leave the car.
This is Denise Fenzi! A pioneer in dog sports! She’s one of the first to start training high level competition dogs using all positive reinforcement methods.
I’m so glad someone else recognizes her! She’s amazing
Love her work and grateful for her online dog training school! [Fenzi Dog Sports Academy](https://FenziDogSportsAcademy.com)
When you accidentally hit your friend who had a dog in minecraft:
That's a cute fuzzy lawsuit
That kind of dog is only good for going to war or something. You cant be hanging out with your friends while around him, its sad
He's trained for sport. He'll only ever go after someone in a suit and is a completely different dog when not given the command to defend. I know the dog personally and have been around him and Denise before. The most threatening thing he does is bump into you because he's a little clumsy. If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't comment or make judgments about other people.
Info is really helpful and if you arent lying about it, then thats great that the dog knows whos friendly and whos not. I take back my comment, then. But i was in no way judging anybody? From my point of view the dog seemed incapable of being a regular house pet, thats all. That is pretty disrespectful
Dog is like: come on, dude, I know why we are here, just hit her so I can bite your ass
The name of the woman is Denise Fenzi. Here are the links to the video on her social media accounts: * [Instagram](https://instagram.com/p/C61GhqBricp) * [Facebook](https://facebook.com/watch/?v=3283950075232976) * [TikTok](https://tiktok.com/@denisefenzi/video/7367733276116585770)
This is Denise Fenzi and her dog Xen!! She’s an amazing trainer and offers TONS of free and affordable courses and training resources through Fenzi Dog Academy!
Doggo is the least NPC acting of the group.
It’s a demonstration bruh they acting that way on purpose
Imagine an actual dog like that in public, ready to ravage anyone who accidentally bumps or something. Seems ott
Dangerous AF training. Look how the dog is ready to go as soon as the man approach.
I’ve never seen one of these videos with two potential assailants. I wonder how the dog behaves with multiple threats?
Barkour
That's Denise Fenzi and the dog is Xen.
Impressive. But also not something your avg joe should attempt or need. Tbh any dog would do the trick against me as a guard dog. I'm allergic, basically biological warfare at that point.
Doggo too close to balls.
Seems constantly preoccupied with sniffin the business, and I’d want no part of that.
Cringe actually.
It should be illegal to actively train animals to attack others, in particular other humans. It is unethical and unhinged. Nothing "amazing" about it.
Certainly the police should not be using dogs for violence
She needs to keep better company imho
Well trained beautiful dog,love it, but the amazing thing here is the negativity and hate in most of the comments, why is most of the people here always so miserable?
Most people don't know the first thing about dogs or sports training, I can see how this is unnerving if you don't know anything about training, but it is sad to see all the negativity.
same dog biting the handler - note the lack of aggression as the dog switches from suit to toy, even with the handler (me) on the ground. see how it’s a game? he’s not trying to hurt me: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2XbHySrP-S/?igsh=MWo4NDc4YWxneHV0eg==
Is the dog’s name “Ouch”?
How come this dog listens, unlike K9 dogs that seem to bite everyone and never let go.
I wonder what kind of a-hole you need to be before you decide you need a dog that does this, especially when you're just hanging with the tellytubby putting the dooblydoo on the wet floor hoozywhatsits.
Psychos
Dogs like this are insanely dangerous. Especially in the hands of an idiot.
How can he slap!
Dude put his balls near to the dogs face. It would be a shame to lose them.
Malinois or East Geeman Shepherd?
Amazing creature. Gorgeous expression.
Cor, the *focus* of that dog. Malinois, man.
That goodest boy was asking for 1 wish lol
Good dog.
Mals are something else. Once read a comparison of a German Shepherd and a Malinois that continues to ring true. “A GSD will chase a bad guy off a cliff, a Mal will bite him to death on the way down.”
nicee
Omg, I need to do that with my cat!!!
What if you're fucking? Is this dog going to tear your ass up because your tearing that ass up?
This is sport not real protection also this is one of the most famous sport dog trainers in the us and she knows what she’s doing
Came here for the deevolution of any rational thought in the comments and was not disappointed.
I've never watched one of these videos and actually seen the people physically interact like handshakes, high-fives, hugs, etc.
We don’t deserve dogs 💞🙏
That’s a smart ass dog
Guy is just a giant plush chew toy
I want one
How much does this actually cost? This is some intense training.
I think the Russain Guys more good at this... When I go there for the first time they trained like a human to these dogs....
My dog is laying on my kitchen table licking himself. LPT: Never let your puppy sleep on a coffee table because he’s so little and cute.
it's insane how smart Malinois are
Incredibly impressive. Owned a few Shepards in my day, an awesome breed.