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Impressive that they can get them moving with only 2 locs. The ore trains here (NL) are only like 650m long but when fully laden still weigh over 5000 tons and require 2 locomotives. This train must be like 20,000 tons when full
I used to work in an iron ore train loadout 2015. The trains were 244 wagons with 4 locos, 33000 tons and took 2 hours to load.
That’s all probably been blitzed by now but it was pretty amazing to be a part of.
These things are nearly impossible to start and stop, right? So when train loads, does train have to keep going forward for a few wagon-lengths at a time? Is train continuously slowly moving while loading?
They drop off 2 locos and load the whole train non stop. Can’t remember the speed but around 1 kph.
There would be issues occasionally and start stop was never a problem.
That particular railway is downhill on the way from the mine to the sea port. I remember reading once that the loco to pre car is set based on what it takes to drag the empties back to the mine.
I think the key factor here is inertia. Since its so heavy, you dont really need much energy to keep it going, it does so by itself mostly. You only need the energy to accelerate it. Which is still much, but a lot less than + this + the energy stored by inertia.
No force is required to move an object at constant speed unless there is a force of resistance. The force of resistance is the rolling friction and air resistance on a level surface. Friction and air resistance are both are relatively low. The terrain in Australia must be very flat. It would take a lot of force to pull this uphill against the force of gravity. You must apply an unbalanced face to accelerate the train from 0 to cruising speed. This is a large force given the train's huge mass. The size of this force is reduced by having slack couplings between the cars, so in essence you accelerate each car individually.
Unfortunately the areas these trains run are not flat. There is some steep gradients where the empty trains will only do 30/40km/h also the mines are higher than the ports and the networks are built so that it's mostly a down hill run for the loaded trains. Some mines have what are called banker locos which attach to the very end of the train to push it up out of the mine area over the first hill then detach and head back.
All these networks run 68kg rail and 40 ton axle loads and speeds up to 80km/h one of them is experimenting with 44 ton axle loads and running empty trains at upto 90km/h
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I can't remember where, but I think there is an ore train out there generating power when going downhill fully loaded, and then reusing some to go back up empty
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Well it's imported to Rotterdam from Brazil and gets taken by train from there into Germany. Same with coal. And all the trains return empty, it's really a one-way system
As Simian said, we basically have a bit of everything here, its just that we produce basically none of it lol. Import and export is king, baby! As for actual products we mostly do food, flowers and high-tech -- and of course MDMA but that doesn't show up on official figures lol. The rest of the economy is mostly knowledge/services based
I commented something along the lines of that the last time a video of these bad boys was posted. And I got a pretty good reply that led me to some digging. So. The reason these two trains can pull all that cargo is because those trains are 4500 horsepower locomotives that can pull that amount of cargo mainly because of two factors: they have pulse filtration systems and they drive on flat terrain, this allows underpowered trains to pull more weight than they normally would be able to. There’s some other stuff like the fuel used in the engines and if the wagons are entirely full they add a caboose to give it some much needed extra kicking power
That train’s likely on a dedicated network, given its length and its location. Most trains in the eastern half of Australia are limited to ~1.6km, which is generally how long the largest freight sidings are. The length isn’t so much determined by pulling power as it is by infrastructure.
Is this train moving that quick or is the speed of this video increased? Still a long train. From my public safety job I responded to a few train accidents where folks were struck. The length of time it took the trains to come to a stop is incredible and this one must need miles to come to a stop.
wont be too many "folks" out where that train is running -
satellite image shows how long it is if you zoom out (may not be the one in the video this is Mt Tom Price there are a few others) -
[Mt Tom Price Iron Ore Train](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mt+Tom+Price+Railway,+Western+Australia+6751/@-22.7464554,117.7668159,193m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x2bf267ae9479b7fb:0x267d25607ee0473e!8m2!3d-22.7185845!4d117.7749331!16s%2Fg%2F11cjg9mxxz?entry=ttu)
Yeah different companies. The one in your link is a Pilbara iron(Rio tinto) train. The one in the video is a BHP train. The bridge it's taken on is in Port hedland. The two places are about a 7 hour drive away
Looks pretty sparse. But one train death I responded to was 4 young adults, drunk, struck and killed on a track when a train came up behind them quite a ways from anyone or anything. We never figured out if they heard it coming and ignored it but many felt they were not suicidal. Another one was behind a crowded high school where a student walked out and committed suicide using an oncoming train.
I've spoken about it here before and got a few comments calling BS, but I used to work on a railway line upgrade in West Aus and one of the training videos we watched was all about being super vigilant around the train lines coz these long ass trains will sneak up on you while you're working. Work groups were required to have a spotter whose whole job was to stand there and watch out for trains.
We see these around the US in places but never in my area. My wife is from Minnesota at the Canadian border and very long trains can be the norm there. You're sitting a while at crossings as they are not moving fast at all nearer the little town.
I remember having to wait at a crossing in a little town somewhere in the Canadian Rockies while a mega train went past. We counted around 160 carriages!
Usually over 250, I worked at one of those mines. They can get away with it being this long as they are the only thing on the rails in that part of Australia.
Some commenter said they can be up to 2.5 kms long. In the US some cargo trains are up to 8kms long (https://www.newscientist.com/article/2360956-us-freight-trains-are-getting-longer-is-that-safe/)
Woah! This is such a rabbit hole to look into... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_trains.
"The record-breaking ore train from [BHP], 682 cars and 7,300 m (7.3 km; 24,000 ft; 4.5 mi) long"
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if you look closer you'll see theres 4 locomotives, 2 up front 2 in the middle. its done to manage coupler and structure loads, otherwise between the first wagon and loco is carrying the stress of the entire train pull, putting locomotives in middle of the consist lowers that maximum stress on the foward wagons. They're all linked and usually operated by 1 driver, some companies have swapped to fully automated as the route is simple and its all privately owned rail rather than travelling on a network
Depending on the company, some ore trains are driven from an [air-conditioned room in an office park](https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-10-27/rio-tinto-joins-tafe-in-developing-training-of-mine-workers/9080222) several thousand kilometres away.
Train length doesn't really affect braking power. Every wagon has its own brakes, so no matter how long the train is it only has to bring its own weight to a stop.
Also, the video is sped up.
The craziest part is almost all of these trains are driverless. It's a pretty much unpopulated part of Australia and these trains are not linked to anything but these mines and the shore where they process / ship the ore.
If they are driver less I wonder what why they make them so long. Without the cost of the engineer I can't imagine the cost is much different running one long train vs two trains of half the length. The people running the that show must be watching every penny.
>If they are driver less I wonder what why they make them so long.
I'd assume that is mostly due to the lines likely being single track for most of the distance. Double track only pays off on networks with a lot of trains: but these ore railways probably do not have enough traffic to justify that. And if you only have a single track for possibly hundreds of kilometres, with a few sidings where you can wait for an oncoming train to pass, splitting freight into too many independent units might get inefficient pretty fast.
The ones in Karratha aren't driverless (seen in vid), but the drivers basically do nothing but watch YouTube videos all day.
There's about 25k people in Karratha, a good chunk working in mining or supporting the infrastructure directly or indirectly.
I can't quite remember what a train holds but if you wanna see some crazy numbers google how much iron ore is shipped out of Port Hedland each day, then google the price of iron ore per ton.
Fun fact: some of these trains take iron ore one way across Australia, then coal back the other way. That way, ore smelting can be done at both the ore mines and coal mines.
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This video ore to be banned!! But seriously, I spent some time in a town in western Australia, and if you caught it at the wrong time, the iron ore train would come through... SLOWLY..it felt like forever.
Shit is annoying to wait for it to pass most bus drivers will park the bus get out and have a smoke because it will be a few minutes before we are all out
This would be considered a short train in Indiana. Them sucker's are so long. And then when they are almost done. They stop and start going backwards. And you are just sitting twiddling you thumbs for literally half an hour.
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Long stretch of rails with long ore trains? Strange animal? Desert? Is this Factorio?
One bottleneck solved! Now we can expand the green circuit production.
Biter battles anyone?
The optimal factorio train is loco/wagon/loco. Maybe 2 wagons. You want max acceleration and just more trains.
Boo. 1 engine, 19 wagons and mod the crap out of it. 0 to 496kmph in about 3 seconds. Even without mods throughput improves with longer trains.
Wouldn’t it be better to have even more engines?
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Impressive that they can get them moving with only 2 locs. The ore trains here (NL) are only like 650m long but when fully laden still weigh over 5000 tons and require 2 locomotives. This train must be like 20,000 tons when full
This train has 4 locos, 2 in front 2 in middle
Thanks, I was wondering what power could move these
Oh yeah you're right, I thought it was one at the front and one in the middle
Estas loco
The ol' mid train DPU.
I used to work in an iron ore train loadout 2015. The trains were 244 wagons with 4 locos, 33000 tons and took 2 hours to load. That’s all probably been blitzed by now but it was pretty amazing to be a part of.
Still about the same. 232 wagons, 32,000T
These things are nearly impossible to start and stop, right? So when train loads, does train have to keep going forward for a few wagon-lengths at a time? Is train continuously slowly moving while loading?
They drop off 2 locos and load the whole train non stop. Can’t remember the speed but around 1 kph. There would be issues occasionally and start stop was never a problem.
Makes sense, thanks. For fun, 244+4 wagons * 13 meter each = 3.2km long train. Loading at one point for two hours would need around 1.6 kph.
Just 2 hours. Feels like it would take an hour to accelerate that much
That particular railway is downhill on the way from the mine to the sea port. I remember reading once that the loco to pre car is set based on what it takes to drag the empties back to the mine.
They would need some good braking power ..if it is downhill.
I think the key factor here is inertia. Since its so heavy, you dont really need much energy to keep it going, it does so by itself mostly. You only need the energy to accelerate it. Which is still much, but a lot less than + this + the energy stored by inertia.
No force is required to move an object at constant speed unless there is a force of resistance. The force of resistance is the rolling friction and air resistance on a level surface. Friction and air resistance are both are relatively low. The terrain in Australia must be very flat. It would take a lot of force to pull this uphill against the force of gravity. You must apply an unbalanced face to accelerate the train from 0 to cruising speed. This is a large force given the train's huge mass. The size of this force is reduced by having slack couplings between the cars, so in essence you accelerate each car individually.
Unfortunately the areas these trains run are not flat. There is some steep gradients where the empty trains will only do 30/40km/h also the mines are higher than the ports and the networks are built so that it's mostly a down hill run for the loaded trains. Some mines have what are called banker locos which attach to the very end of the train to push it up out of the mine area over the first hill then detach and head back. All these networks run 68kg rail and 40 ton axle loads and speeds up to 80km/h one of them is experimenting with 44 ton axle loads and running empty trains at upto 90km/h
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One think that helps is that the Australian outback is flat as fuck.
I can't remember where, but I think there is an ore train out there generating power when going downhill fully loaded, and then reusing some to go back up empty
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I didn't know the Netherlands had Iron ore, TIL
Well it's imported to Rotterdam from Brazil and gets taken by train from there into Germany. Same with coal. And all the trains return empty, it's really a one-way system
As Simian said, we basically have a bit of everything here, its just that we produce basically none of it lol. Import and export is king, baby! As for actual products we mostly do food, flowers and high-tech -- and of course MDMA but that doesn't show up on official figures lol. The rest of the economy is mostly knowledge/services based
It take a while to get going, I've seen them first hand and it is truly impressive.
I commented something along the lines of that the last time a video of these bad boys was posted. And I got a pretty good reply that led me to some digging. So. The reason these two trains can pull all that cargo is because those trains are 4500 horsepower locomotives that can pull that amount of cargo mainly because of two factors: they have pulse filtration systems and they drive on flat terrain, this allows underpowered trains to pull more weight than they normally would be able to. There’s some other stuff like the fuel used in the engines and if the wagons are entirely full they add a caboose to give it some much needed extra kicking power
I stopped watching it after a while. I was just really ored
I persisted, and it’s steel going…
Ironic
Ingotting out of here
Sodder off then
Hey, you have your opinion, and I have MINE!
I hope no one steels it
I smelt where this thread was going. Not disappointed.
Non-stop, like a ferrous wheel.
Terrific work
You have to train yourself to be more patient.
Bloody hell, dad. You're so embarrassing!
Your getting rusty on the reddit grind my man.
I was over-ORED and couldn't stop watching
You didn't find it en-guaging?
That’s how long a freight train should be….. I’m always disappointed when they aren’t.
Well, depends on the country Here in Switzerland this train would peek out on both sides of the country 😂
Cool, so short ride
Hell, it would not even need to move! /s
Make a massive circular track and put a super long train that goes on it 24-7. I feel like there's some sort of value to be held there
They already have that in switzerland but they use it for nuclear physics.
I use to have to wait for a train to cross after work, sometimes nearly 10 minutes long. This would make me cry
Until your waiting at a train crossing on the way home from a long day
That train’s likely on a dedicated network, given its length and its location. Most trains in the eastern half of Australia are limited to ~1.6km, which is generally how long the largest freight sidings are. The length isn’t so much determined by pulling power as it is by infrastructure.
Tbf, it’s not like infra limitations have stopped the class 1s in the US.
Even more amazing when you notice its tail is moving in the horizon on the other side of the lake
Is this train moving that quick or is the speed of this video increased? Still a long train. From my public safety job I responded to a few train accidents where folks were struck. The length of time it took the trains to come to a stop is incredible and this one must need miles to come to a stop.
wont be too many "folks" out where that train is running - satellite image shows how long it is if you zoom out (may not be the one in the video this is Mt Tom Price there are a few others) - [Mt Tom Price Iron Ore Train](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mt+Tom+Price+Railway,+Western+Australia+6751/@-22.7464554,117.7668159,193m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x2bf267ae9479b7fb:0x267d25607ee0473e!8m2!3d-22.7185845!4d117.7749331!16s%2Fg%2F11cjg9mxxz?entry=ttu)
Yeah different companies. The one in your link is a Pilbara iron(Rio tinto) train. The one in the video is a BHP train. The bridge it's taken on is in Port hedland. The two places are about a 7 hour drive away
Looks pretty sparse. But one train death I responded to was 4 young adults, drunk, struck and killed on a track when a train came up behind them quite a ways from anyone or anything. We never figured out if they heard it coming and ignored it but many felt they were not suicidal. Another one was behind a crowded high school where a student walked out and committed suicide using an oncoming train.
I've spoken about it here before and got a few comments calling BS, but I used to work on a railway line upgrade in West Aus and one of the training videos we watched was all about being super vigilant around the train lines coz these long ass trains will sneak up on you while you're working. Work groups were required to have a spotter whose whole job was to stand there and watch out for trains.
Looks sped up if you notice the movement of the grass...
A family member is one of the train drivers in Port Hedland! They’re around 2.5km long
We see these around the US in places but never in my area. My wife is from Minnesota at the Canadian border and very long trains can be the norm there. You're sitting a while at crossings as they are not moving fast at all nearer the little town.
I remember having to wait at a crossing in a little town somewhere in the Canadian Rockies while a mega train went past. We counted around 160 carriages!
I believe it.
No they are verrrrry slow ... when you have to wait :D
Imagine the particle in the LHC right before the collision has the same potential energy like this train
I think there might be a "mum" joke brewing here, but I can't find it.
Dora will help
Which is about the kinetic energy of your mom when she walks. Which is about the potential energy as your mom standing on a stair step.
Oooofff 👌
IANA physicist, but LHC only accelerates individual particles to a few TeV, which is a million times smaller than 1 calorie.
Imagination stronger than physics 😂
Each carriage has $100k in it for Gina Rinehart
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Usually over 250, I worked at one of those mines. They can get away with it being this long as they are the only thing on the rails in that part of Australia.
Some commenter said they can be up to 2.5 kms long. In the US some cargo trains are up to 8kms long (https://www.newscientist.com/article/2360956-us-freight-trains-are-getting-longer-is-that-safe/)
Woah! This is such a rabbit hole to look into... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_trains. "The record-breaking ore train from [BHP], 682 cars and 7,300 m (7.3 km; 24,000 ft; 4.5 mi) long"
I learned this on the new Grand Tour special. Shit blew my mind
They are using the iron to transport the iron across the iron
Oh, the iron e..........
Imma steel this joke.
Breaking distance: yes
3-5 business days
It sucks when you have to wait for the train to go past when driving
Indiana Jones ran along the top of that train in The Last Crusade. By the time he reached the front he was in Dial of Destiny.
It’s also venomous.. cause Australia
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Yeah the intermodal ones can regularly be 17,000+ feet. Pain in the ass when something goes wrong.
I was over-ored by this
Great video for faster falling asleep
Not gonna lie. I was amazed.
Good luck trying to stop that
Are the locomotives linked somehow? I assume the benefit of this arrangement is fewer crew members than two separate trains
if you look closer you'll see theres 4 locomotives, 2 up front 2 in the middle. its done to manage coupler and structure loads, otherwise between the first wagon and loco is carrying the stress of the entire train pull, putting locomotives in middle of the consist lowers that maximum stress on the foward wagons. They're all linked and usually operated by 1 driver, some companies have swapped to fully automated as the route is simple and its all privately owned rail rather than travelling on a network
The middle ones are remote controlled by the from ones. It is called Distributed Power. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_power
Depending on the company, some ore trains are driven from an [air-conditioned room in an office park](https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-10-27/rio-tinto-joins-tafe-in-developing-training-of-mine-workers/9080222) several thousand kilometres away.
Looks like Dampier/Karratha.
I was exactly thinking of it !
Nah it's port hedland.
Nah it looks like the area between dampier and Karratha, there's a road that runs parallel to this nearby. The salt flats are a giveaway.
Whoa. That's heavy dude!
Crikey
Don't take the train
We stop for nobody
How long does it take to stop from that speed?
Train length doesn't really affect braking power. Every wagon has its own brakes, so no matter how long the train is it only has to bring its own weight to a stop. Also, the video is sped up.
Oresome!
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I feel like I've also seen trains this long in rural US like Wyoming
The craziest part is almost all of these trains are driverless. It's a pretty much unpopulated part of Australia and these trains are not linked to anything but these mines and the shore where they process / ship the ore.
If they are driver less I wonder what why they make them so long. Without the cost of the engineer I can't imagine the cost is much different running one long train vs two trains of half the length. The people running the that show must be watching every penny.
>If they are driver less I wonder what why they make them so long. I'd assume that is mostly due to the lines likely being single track for most of the distance. Double track only pays off on networks with a lot of trains: but these ore railways probably do not have enough traffic to justify that. And if you only have a single track for possibly hundreds of kilometres, with a few sidings where you can wait for an oncoming train to pass, splitting freight into too many independent units might get inefficient pretty fast.
The ones in Karratha aren't driverless (seen in vid), but the drivers basically do nothing but watch YouTube videos all day. There's about 25k people in Karratha, a good chunk working in mining or supporting the infrastructure directly or indirectly.
How long is this
OP is lying Thats 4 trains combined into one.
So this gets filled with iron ore, how much money we talking fully loaded?
I can't quite remember what a train holds but if you wanna see some crazy numbers google how much iron ore is shipped out of Port Hedland each day, then google the price of iron ore per ton.
I can’t play count the carts on that I’d lose count
Ok this was cartoonishly long. Like is this a minecraft video?
Am I the only one who tried to count them?
What’s the total weight in ore alone I wonder?
I just goes on ore ever
You probably need a train to get from one end to the other
Bigger than them 20 mule teams pulling borax.
The secret is we have no economic diversity and put all our eggs in the dig up stuff to sell to China basket.
How much money do you think that is?
Wait, I thought cities were built on rock n' roll
Can confirm, three days later that train is still passing by.
wierd thought, what if thay make carts out of the iron instead of transporting it on carts
Fun fact: some of these trains take iron ore one way across Australia, then coal back the other way. That way, ore smelting can be done at both the ore mines and coal mines.
In heroes 3 I had a horse to do that
The lack of caboose is disappointing
Where’s the train with the pumpkins?
I'm gonna make me one of these when satisfactory 1.0 launches
We consume too much stuff
count them yourself
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Rr that nothing, unzips pants an let’s the beast unravel.
I remember the train taking charbon of cerrejon mine in Colombia to the port took 4 min to pass running at 80km/h
That's just a second train driving really close to the first train.
Just like my Factorio trains :P
Holy molly. This is incredible. It's just too much.
to the bullet farm!!
Sent it to that guy to find out how many wagons it has.
I wonder what the full length is
Factorio getting wild these days
Minecraft Youtubers 0.1 seconds into a hardcore playthrough
Only half the size of my penis
How long does that shit take to stop? It must have a ridiculous amount of momentum.
Sandpiercer,ten thousand and one cars long!!
The lack of railroad crossing gates and signs is terrifying
Only 4 engines? Must be a light load
This video ore to be banned!! But seriously, I spent some time in a town in western Australia, and if you caught it at the wrong time, the iron ore train would come through... SLOWLY..it felt like forever.
How'd you stop a train this size?
Hey boss I got stuck at the train crossing. I’m gonna be an hour late
Pretty sure this train is actually 1 mile long.
Now this is efficiency. Imagine doing this by truck.
Pfft, try living in southwest Ohio. This shit is child’s play.
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And quite possibly driverless.
Well it pretty much is made of iron ore so they have alot lol
This is one of the most impressive things I've seen since I first saw the length of Aussie semis.
i expected a few more DPUs.
Now I have to look up and learn about engines placed in the middle of a “Long Hauler”. Today’s Rabbit Hole.
I see no difference with this train and UP or BNSF trains in our western states.
Man I work in a iron ore mine here and we load 140 cars per train and think that's boring and takes forever. I couldn't imagine this train
Train so long it needs a double engine in the middle of it
Shit is annoying to wait for it to pass most bus drivers will park the bus get out and have a smoke because it will be a few minutes before we are all out
Ore else!
Imagine putting your head between the carriages
So a fairly normal train
I counted at least 5 ore cars. Was I close?!
I believe from what I’ve seen on YouTube there’s a chance that that train is automated too
Yummy fuel, metal oxide and metal powder
This would be considered a short train in Indiana. Them sucker's are so long. And then when they are almost done. They stop and start going backwards. And you are just sitting twiddling you thumbs for literally half an hour.
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Not too bad but check it out for the Snowpiercer, the 1001 cars long train!
"...on Snowpiercer, 1001 cars long"
THIS IS HOW ALL TRAINS SHOULD BE!
This Factorio graphics looks crazy! 🫨
I quickly stopped doubting it'll take 30 seconds for it to pass at that speed
Question is what happens after it gets to where it’s going? Is iron ore processing facility set up to handle that much iron ore at the same time?
My luck I’d arrive at the crossing just as the arms came down.
Snowpiercer but awesome
Must have gotten at least lvl 94 mining off of all of that
And just one engine???
Typical train length in Waycross, GA. And it'll stop right over the crossing when you need to get anywhere.
Average American train. *this comment is mocking American rail system*