From the wiki you provided:
"The Alsaahir guesses that Doug is the Demon, and Ben and Sarah are Minions. Doug is the Demon, and Ben and Sarah are Minions. Good wins immediately."
"If there is a [Lil' Monsta](https://wiki.bloodontheclocktower.com/Lil%27_Monsta), [Legion](https://wiki.bloodontheclocktower.com/Legion), [Riot](https://wiki.bloodontheclocktower.com/Riot), or other such character, you will need to guess an unusual amount of Minions or Demons."
My group's shortcut for Legion guesses is to say "I'm the Alsaahir, I think this is a Legion game, and X and Y are not Legion."
Not technically the right way to guess, but it covers the same information as a correctly done guess and is much faster than listening to everyone bluffing Alsaahir name most of the players.
And technically, most of the players twice. Since they have to guess all Legion as a minion and as a demon, because they always register as a minion too
It has been specified that if a player is both a minion and a demon (for LM and Legion), you need to guess them as a demon, you do not need to guess them as a minion
Your questions are answered in the wiki itself.
Eseentialy, you have to guess specifically player X is the demon, and player Y and Z are minions.
If theres multiple demons (Star Pass, Scarlet Woman, Fang Gu) you have to guess multiple demons.
If there are 3 minions in a base 2 minion game (which can only happen with Lil Monsta), the wiki says if a player is both minion and demon, they have to be guessed as demon.
I really hope there isn't too much Minion or Demon changing in whatever script the Alsaahir ends up in. Alsaahir seems like a Midnight in the House of the Damned character imo.
Yes! Star Pass is specifically the term when the Imp kills themselves to make a minion into the new Imp. Its term comes from Roller Derby, where the Jammer can take off the star helmet cover and pass it to the pivot, who then becomes the new jammer mid play.
Its come to be the community term for an Imp that kills themselves with their own ability.
"Once per day, if you publicly guess which players are Minion(s) and which are Demon(s), good wins."
Seems clear to me. The Alsaahir has to guess who the Demon is and who the Minion(s) is/are. Not merely "Bob, Alice and Fred are the Evil team", it has to be "Bob is the Demon, Alice and Fred are the Minions" and if Bob is a Minion and Alice the Demon, then the Alsaahir has to try again tomorrow, if they live that long.
You can see it in action in the latest No Rolls Barred plays blood on the clocktower episode
But yeah the person has to name who the demon and minions are.
The Alsaahir has to public guess who the demon is and who the minions are (but not which demon or minion they are).
E.g. Tom is the demon, Aggie and Ben are the minions. However Aggie is the demon and Tom and Ben are minions so nothing occurs.
The next night the Alsaahir gets their guess correct and the game instantly ends in a good win.
Every single demon and every single minion must be guessed. Also yes, the Alsaahir must specify whether each guessed player is a demon or a minion.
Thanks :D
From the wiki you provided: "The Alsaahir guesses that Doug is the Demon, and Ben and Sarah are Minions. Doug is the Demon, and Ben and Sarah are Minions. Good wins immediately." "If there is a [Lil' Monsta](https://wiki.bloodontheclocktower.com/Lil%27_Monsta), [Legion](https://wiki.bloodontheclocktower.com/Legion), [Riot](https://wiki.bloodontheclocktower.com/Riot), or other such character, you will need to guess an unusual amount of Minions or Demons."
My group's shortcut for Legion guesses is to say "I'm the Alsaahir, I think this is a Legion game, and X and Y are not Legion." Not technically the right way to guess, but it covers the same information as a correctly done guess and is much faster than listening to everyone bluffing Alsaahir name most of the players.
And technically, most of the players twice. Since they have to guess all Legion as a minion and as a demon, because they always register as a minion too
I think the rule with anyone who registers as both minion and demon is that they only need to be guessed as demon
Ah fair
nope, 6th bullet point on the wiki page says legion are guessed as demons.
Okay! Got it. Thanks for finding that :D
If a Minion is holding LM, could you say "X and Y are Minions, Z is the Demon" and be correct, since Z is holding LM and "is the Demon"?
It has been specified that if a player is both a minion and a demon (for LM and Legion), you need to guess them as a demon, you do not need to guess them as a minion
"If a player is a Minion and a Demon, such as Legion, the Alsaahir must guess this player as a Demon." Only Demon is enough.
Your questions are answered in the wiki itself. Eseentialy, you have to guess specifically player X is the demon, and player Y and Z are minions. If theres multiple demons (Star Pass, Scarlet Woman, Fang Gu) you have to guess multiple demons. If there are 3 minions in a base 2 minion game (which can only happen with Lil Monsta), the wiki says if a player is both minion and demon, they have to be guessed as demon.
Fang Gu, Scarlet Woman, and Pit-Hag are going to create monsters for Alsaahirs
I really hope there isn't too much Minion or Demon changing in whatever script the Alsaahir ends up in. Alsaahir seems like a Midnight in the House of the Damned character imo.
Got it! Just so I know, does a "star pass" mean something like an Imp sacrifice or Fang Gu jump?
Yes! Star Pass is specifically the term when the Imp kills themselves to make a minion into the new Imp. Its term comes from Roller Derby, where the Jammer can take off the star helmet cover and pass it to the pivot, who then becomes the new jammer mid play. Its come to be the community term for an Imp that kills themselves with their own ability.
Wooo! Love the roller derby factoid getting spread
Thank you for sharing this! I've always been confused where the term Star Pass comes from and could never find an easy answer
"Once per day, if you publicly guess which players are Minion(s) and which are Demon(s), good wins." Seems clear to me. The Alsaahir has to guess who the Demon is and who the Minion(s) is/are. Not merely "Bob, Alice and Fred are the Evil team", it has to be "Bob is the Demon, Alice and Fred are the Minions" and if Bob is a Minion and Alice the Demon, then the Alsaahir has to try again tomorrow, if they live that long.
You can see it in action in the latest No Rolls Barred plays blood on the clocktower episode But yeah the person has to name who the demon and minions are.
Is it that time of the month *again*!?
The Alsaahir has to public guess who the demon is and who the minions are (but not which demon or minion they are). E.g. Tom is the demon, Aggie and Ben are the minions. However Aggie is the demon and Tom and Ben are minions so nothing occurs. The next night the Alsaahir gets their guess correct and the game instantly ends in a good win.
I think you're right, but I believe the win happens instantly, not during the next night. Thank you :D