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Background-Floor6603

Its appearance rate. Usage rate he mustve been higher since the small people who owns him would likely used him


Artuhanzo

So i am the 10% that didn't use RM...


Quiet_Ad_9073

Don't have T\_T


lady_dmc

same, i just obtained RM today.


GuardianTrinity

So am I


Meatball_enjoyer

He's 85% usage out of accounts that have boothill: [https://youtu.be/Fz7Omk2bI9A?t=89](https://youtu.be/Fz7Omk2bI9A?t=89)


Sienne_

The few of us who pulled for him did our part.


GladiatorDragon

Even if you’re me (an absolute madman) and have both FF and Boothill, the man still turns Argenti into Swiss cheese, even if Ruan Mei and HTB are doing something else. He just had the absolute worst placement you could get - being placed before a hyped-up unit that fills a similar niche. I just happened to have the devil’s own luck in regards to both characters.


Previous_Diet4256

I ran RM, Boothill, FF, and HMC on current MOC 12 Argenti and 2 cycled, in certain scenarios they're worth using together fr


Naelyan4

Hoyoverse sabotaged him in favor of hyping up waifu character


balbasin09

No one’s gonna talk about that absurd Ruan Mei stat? Almost 90%! Nice lady is warping the game around her, I noticed it too. It feels like it takes forever to deplete enemy toughness without her, even with Boothill fully stacked.


ShinigamiRyan

Unsurprising. Current meta is based around breaking enemies. Ruan Mei's biggest appeal is for that. They'd need another break support to kneecap her use.


Throwrafairbeat

Ruan mei had an even higher usage rate at one point even before bh and ff were released...


ShinigamiRyan

She gives so many buffs by being in a team. It wasn't until other supporters got added that she went down a bit, but they added super break and we loop back here.


pear_topologist

They need another break support so I can run two break teams at once. I’d love to have boothill, but i knew I couldn’t use him and FF optimally at the same time


GGABueno

I mean, yeah, this is the Break patch lol. If I was using 2 out of Daniel, Acheron, IPC, DoT or Argenti then she'd be on the bench, but definitely not this patch.


KasumiGotoTriss

She's still amazing in the ipc team if you don't have Robin and she's BiS in dot


Msaleg

She and Robin are tied on dot. If you have both at S1 Robin is better by 4 ~ 5%.


TolucaPrisoner

I wish they made a harmony husbando that was strong as these harmony waifus. Can't make a meta husbando team without whaling, closest one is with Boothill + Harmony Caelus + Gallagher + Flex (Luka fits the most but compared to Ruan Mei he is meh)


balbasin09

Only Ruan Mei can give Weakness Break Efficiency right now, in is very strong because of it. Give me a husbando that can give the same stat and now we’re talking.


Sienne_

Maybe Sunday.. Here's to coping..


pessoa_aleatoria_

I literally just got her because of botthill and how she is broken. I don't even like her


bernxwitch

Same


fuxuanmyqueen

Argenti 2.0 unfortunately


Hemiklr89

I was real confused why they even bothered including him in the story this time at all


ShinigamiRyan

Tease more Galaxy Rangers, give closure to a Nameless that Acheron's distant nature couldn't, and set up the split in IPC factions. Not hard to see why they'd put him in. That and also let people taste the meta that he and Firefly explore. That and Argenti is tagging along with him, so he also can be used for some fun comedic relief as well.


winyawinya

Yeah having Acheron as a fake Galaxy Ranger and not showing us a real one wouldn't make sense as well.


ShinigamiRyan

Plus while in English it's downplayed: Oswaldo the Nameless that is a director of the fanatic arm of the IPC (the actual more direct translation), so that has certainly been there for a minute to be explored on the IPC and certainly show the split in the IPC when comparing the stonehearts against Oswaldo.


VASQUEZ_41

wait oswaldo is a nameless? damn didn't know that, is it said somewhere during the main story?


g0lden_bread

it was mentioned in the [ipc trailer](https://youtu.be/2f2qB_gw8b8?si=U4v8ml_QHnmNFFg7&t=27)


VASQUEZ_41

oh i didn't watch it thx gotta watch it now


lunick95

To remind us he's still alive


SnooCakes4852

To have people see and remember him with his rerun. Probably at least one person out there going "omg he's so funny, I'm gonna pull for him" I can't unfortunately since I'm saving for reruns :c


GuardianTrinity

I'm sad that I can't pull for him. He has my favorite ult animation in the game, but Jade is too stonks for me since I already have a team for her and am really lacking aoe for Fiction. I know Argenti is also aoe but I don't have Huohuo and my Tingyun isn't built, so getting him to a similar level of both personal and team investment is going to be a lot more taxing. This man is in the same boat as Ayato for me, sadly. Next time, my friend....


SnooCakes4852

Always a next time!


GuardianTrinity

Indeed. On the bright side, just like with Ayato, I've pretty much gotten most of my main teams to clear endgame content done, so by the time he reruns again I'll be able to pull whoever I want without worrying about being able to clear things.


cat5side

Jade will be Argenti 3.0


Fun_Faithlessness899

I dont know...she may not be really strong but has that ult animation and a whip, and after her there aren't hyped chars


Rowger00

everyone will be empty after FF tho. jade doesn't have enough to justify pulling imo


Ventisquear

I might be the rare endangered species, but I'm skipping FF and saving for Jade. I don't like her design, battle animations, or personality, so there's nothing to justify pulling her for me.


GuardianTrinity

I like Firefly, but same otherwise. I got Boothill and don't have supports built for him, he's just my next project. I can't get Firefly and also have her as a project while needing the same team and everything And that aside, I took a break for about 6 months and came back on Acheron's banner. I really need a good erudition character for this new Pure Fiction thingy, and I already have a good enough team to just slot Jade right in. Easy fix there for me.


TerraKingB

Complete opposite for me. Never been so uninterested in a character before till Jade. First time I’ve genuinely had 0 desire to pull for a unit so that saves me some gems. FF is cute but SAM is where it’s at for me.


Alert_Assistant_9364

Me having beef with Erudition characters but still pulling them (I lost 50/50 on Jingyuan on his first banner and skip second one - now I'm contemplating pulling Jade although her 2.3 appearance has more personality than 3 patches worth of FF's appearance). My account is strong enough to clear any content and even in 2.4 I'm only looking out for Jiaoqiu (if he gets significantly buffed). I'm waiting for Lingsha and Feixiao currently so might as well skip 2.4 whole if Jiaoqiu remains underwhelming as he is in V1. If Feixiao has Firefly/DHIL level of E2 so I might just save enough to get her to E2S1.


Saturnsayshiii

Truth. FF is practically disgusting at this point. I’m so glad we have boots…


Alert_Assistant_9364

I mean Boothill and Argenti gave so much life to the group chat in 2.3's story it's not even a joke but cute waifu with entropy loss syndrome is such a peak character lmao. I cringed so hard when FF carried us in her SAM suit like it made me hate her even more, I don't consider myself a Caelus self insert but I felt bad for homie like he's praying like a disney princess and then being carried like a damsel in distress, fuck that, MC went through Sunday's trials with no sweat but here he became a Disney princess. (IT PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH WHEN FF SENDS YOU THE FIRST MESSAGE AFTER GETTING HER \[I only got her for meta purposes\] LIKE WHY ARE YOU TRYING SO HARD YOU'RE NOT MY GIRLFRIEND, NEVER WILL. But Acheron on the hand can have my hand in marriage xD). Prepared for downvotes IDC.


Saturnsayshiii

Yo that fireworks scene I literally looked away… I literally skipped all her lines in 2.3 There’s literally nothing interesting going on about this homunculus. She saw a guy, and immediately latched on since 2.0… it’s so slimy, the ick… I find most hsr characters likable, except for FF, the one running a cringe fest. I skipped her (have E0S1 boots) and I’ll be waiting for Sunday


Alert_Assistant_9364

Same here, I only got her because sadly even if I hate the character and they're broken as fuck I'll get them (I loathe Jingliu and FF but got them because they're meta asf) but apart from that meh, Boothill is peak and will become even more peak once oswaldo arc starts. A proud E1S0 boothill main and will get him to E2S1 on his rerun. Another Sunday enjoyer, no wonder our tastes are so similar haha.


SnooCakes4852

Meta characters fall off eventually, at least at one point, or there will be stronger characters you like more.


Ivory-Kings_H

Finally, I'm so tired to see her in any shape or form that the only character i only need to see is Boots & Jade, her voice is majestic & sultry. And she has a trait that i will never have, and that is long time Patience.


Alert_Assistant_9364

Jade's JP voice suits her way too much for her own good, I love her personality and the theme she has going on for her especially the snake part (I might just get her lol since I love snakes) and maybe she'll help me not try hard to much on teams where I need to beg Argenti to clear them with atleast 20-25k points.


SnooCakes4852

I dont get why they dont try to massively promote every character, wouldn't it make people have a higher chance of spending if they cant decide what character to go for?


thdespou

Jade will tank in sales. There are not enough Jades left after RM and FF pulls.


SnooCakes4852

Fexiao in leaks is said to be the next favorite child and she's set in 2.5


Consistent_Taste_843

Hopefully my wallet will be ready by then


SnooCakes4852

I wish you the best. I'm here anxiously hoping she won't overshadow Boothill but if she's really a fave waifu then idk man... I think the Acheron power level characters shouldn't be popping up this often.


Upbeat-Rope-9725

He's literally the reason I started playing the game. His character design, personality, and gameplay really just appealed to me. It's unfortunate not many people cared to pull for him but I understand why so it is what it is.


SnooCakes4852

Same, I saw his fine ass on tiktok reels and showed my friend who played star rail and got some info. I downloaded the game a day later and was simping so hard for 2 months while waiting, I still am to this day. He's been carrying my baby account so hard.


Dexyan

He's great, looks great, feels great, works great, the only reason I didn't pull on his banner is because firefly was next, and even with 150+ tickets, I only got one copy of her. He also had the great misfortune of being between some of the greatest banners, between Acheron, Aventurine, Jingliu, Firefly, even Loucha, all of them are top of the game so he didn't get time to shine For his rerun, I hope they flesh out his character beforehand, show us more about him in the story, etc. That way, more people will pull and we get more of him as a person to want to have on our teams, like with Firefly's interaction in the story


lady_dmc

Ever since I saw how hyv used him in the story, and the unfair lack of publicity, as well as gameplay related stuff being nerfed for him, I just knew only the chosen ones would pull for him. And I am very happy with him. Now what annoys me is how ppl just skip him or underestimate him in recommendation lists ... I get it is because Hunt just cannot win in this game, but he embodies Hunt as a character so much, he is so cool.


Frosty_Ratio_1306

Yup. Despite all the unfairness, I enjoy using him so much. Also on a little sidetracked topic, I feel like there's a division in the team. He clearly was made with passion. I mean; his design is peak, his kit is good and enjoyable (albeit a little restrictive on certain conditions), his backstory and personality is good and not to forget hands down one of the best character trailer I've seen. But for some reason whatsoever, his marketing is dogshit, his BiS was alter in favor to a certain waifu, and no proper events or quest whatsoever during his banner. I'm so mad that his limited event was a daily assignment that are done with just some click and a few texts.


cdThrowaway211

Yeah that "All About Boothill" quest was so phoned in for learning about him. I love deploying Boothill but I couldn't be arsed to read the 24 assignments at the time. Plus it was barely anything about his past.


SnooCakes4852

Designers try to make compelling characters, but the higher ups is the ones who decides if they get story time or not.


Irustua

He is definetly a character that's going to be relevant for a future plot line so I understand the lack of visibility during the quests.


lady_dmc

I hope you are so, so right... and he doesn't get sent to the back just because his banner is not new and they must sell another character at such moment.


Sad_Vanilla7035

He literally kills Argento in 1.5 blasts for me at E0S1 literally him, Kafka, and Acheron are carrying my account


Alert_Assistant_9364

Seeing that insane 950k+ one shot on Argenti with 3 star LC and 2pc2pc in AS made me lose my shit when it happened for the first time. For me he's way better than FF (I have her too but she's just a meta tool for me the same way Jingliu is since I don't like her either) in every way possible and I'll cherish him till the end and one day I'll get him to E6S1 (E1S0 currently) just to look at his human self which he once had.


Silkav

I managed to beat moc12 first half in 3 cycles so he can win, moc blessing def plays a factor though.


No-Investment-962

Idk what y’all be on about with this “hunt cant win” especially characters like my Boothill, Yanqing, and Seele (at least when i used her) they just have more than enough speed and power to very quickly kill the enemies and with that speed move again very soon, might as well be AoE ☕️


lady_dmc

I agree and I like Hunt personally, but that's the attitude many people in the fandom have regarding this path sadly. Said perception affects the amount of people who hype a character or end up pulling him.


VTKajin

Boothill was the first step to altering that perception and his performance here is doing a great job in doing that.


pitapatnat

people were saving for firefly/drained after other characters back to back and hoyo did TERRIBLE job of promoting him with a bad event, no story quest, not much as relevancy in the story as other characters so yes unfortunately. atleast he has a strong kit. considering the circumstances, this appearance rate seems ok.


cdThrowaway211

inb4 he's the Titanfall 2 of limited DPS's


naseema77

Fr.. I love Titanfall 2. Aight, imma start up Titanfall 3 now, best game.


cdThrowaway211

Would love if a new Galaxy Ranger were to be a great support for him


ButterscotchDue4299

Sadly he was before one of the most anticipated characters in the history of star rail also a stellaron hunter. Also his lack of promotion :) ahahhahahahha they’re doing my boy dirty


AbsAndAssAppreciator

I’m so salty about that. Not one 30 second animation???? :(


Boafushishi

Hoyo really did him dirty. There was so many things they could’ve done to boost his popularity, like another one of those animated trailers others got (like firefly or Robin). So many things, he got ripped off.


CuteC3

I like that not many people own him actually. 🤭 Their loss.


odd2oul

I'm doing my part!


AmethystGamer19

Boothill skipped me. I think he would definitely be my favorite DPS if I had him. I'm gonna be patient and wait for his rerun I'm a Sunday saver, that should tell you my patience level. (haha) I'm really surprised to see he has a low usage rate?? It might be because he was next to Firefly and Robin, and most people wanted them. Ruan Mei also just got her first rerun


catus_alienus

It's his appearance rate, which means it is dependent on who owns who. Since not much pulled on boothill, he has low appearance rate. But I surmise that his usage rate (% of havers who used him) should be high.


Sun_blazing

Firefly got 3 different trailers to boost publicity, has Stellaron Hunter cred, plus the waifu push from Hoyo in the story, she was even pushed back for spoiler reasons to further boost the anticipation for her release. Only Acheron and maybe Sparkle before that got 3 different trailers, a Myriad Celestia, a character trailer and an animated short. Now we have the planar set that specifically supports her over Boothill, the relic set that works better for her since she deals her own superbreaks. There is also the Hunt vs Destruction disparity on top of that, with the latter being the most usable DPS path across all endgame content, even after Apocalyptic Shadow release. Compare this to Boothill, we didn't even know who he was in 2.0, prior to his drip marketing, then he gets a grand total of 1 dedicated trailer, has no dedicated relic sets, is a Hunt unit with no clear dominance over a single endgame content. The only ones who got him were the ones who found him cool in the drip marketing and trailer. The situation seems similar to Acheron hype, until you remember that the banners before and after her were Sparkle and Aventurine, a game changing amplifier and a game changing sustain, and both of them got mad marketing. Sparkle got 3 different trailers. Aventurine got all of the 2.1 story to flesh out his character before his banner dropped. We have to read Boothill's character bio for his story. I am not pulling FF on this run as a E0S1 Boothill enjoyer, but Hoyo does have clear favourites to push sales. FF is their current iconic unit after Acheron, 2-3 patches later, it will be someone else.


Smiley_Idly

It’s strange how with characters like Kafka or RM who had major roles in the story (while most of the importance ff did was offscreen), they gave us options whether to like them or not, but for ff it was pretty much set in stone. Sure you can choose to be upset at her for lying, but at the end of the day it will still go back to be affectionate. People argue that mc and ff might have been close pre-story, but Blade specifically said MC used to followed Kafka everywhere so i don’t know. And the scene with the fireworks in 2.3 … i don’t treat mc as a self-insert but i have a feeling they are someone from the development team’s.


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reimyyy

There’s a theory that we’re still dreaming, and maybe FF is actually dead and TB couldn’t handle it. It sounds like coping i know but the more you look into it the more sense it makes! Tons of stuff don’t add up in 2.3.


Smiley_Idly

Dreaming would make sense. But the scene with Jade and Sunday looked super serious and real for me so it’s unlikely.


SnooCakes4852

We couldn't really be mean to RM


fei-wen_3

I’m fine with them not giving us the option to dislike a character (even if I don’t like it) because I think it’s a fairly common tactic in games for plot progression, but I really hate that Trailblazer and Firefly’s interactions almost exclusively read as romantic. Her character feels really underdeveloped as a result, making it even harder to like her.


TemplarParadox17

FF got: Trailer, animated Short, Myriad Celestia, Art of Dreaming. Total 4 BH got: Trailer. Total 1 Robin got: Trailer, EP, Myriad Celestia, Moment among stars. Total 4 Adven got: Trailer, 2 moments among stars. Total 3 Acher got: Trailer, Myriad Celestia, Short: Total 3 Sparkle got: Moment among stars, Trailer, Myriad Celestia: Total 3. BS got: Trailer, Myriad Celestia: Total 2 Ratio got: Trailer: Total 1 RM got: Trailer, Myriad Celestia: Total 2 Argenti got: Trailer: Total 1 Huohuo got: Trailer, Moment, Myriad Celestia: Total 3 Topaz got: Trailer: Total 1. JL got: Trailer, Myriad Celestia: Total 2. FX got: Trailer: Total 1 DL got: Animated short, Myriad Celestia, Trailer. Total 3 Kafka Got: Myriad Celestia, Trailer: Total 2 Blade, Luocha, SW, Seele, got 1 each. JY got Trailer, Short, Myriad Celestia: Total 3 TLDR: After Sparkle 3+ Trailers for each became the norm for some reason BH got fucked and treated like Ratio, Argenti, Topaz. Sparkle, Acher, HuoHuo, DL, JY all had a short, Myriad, and trailer. Those plus Adventurine, Robin, had 3+ other types of trailers.


Gravitas0921

thats the power of firefly propaganda


Metalerettei

I'm apart of the 12.73%, I used Boothill and IPC FUA in the new Gamemode and both Worked really well. Hunt may be Unappreciated by the Majority of the Playerbase for a decent amount of Reasons, Though both IPC FUA and Boothill team comps are my 2 favorite team comps in the game. They are both so fun.


adverse_inference

This list is wack. Leaving aside Boothill, wtf are these rates for Topaz and Ratio? Half of AS is so easily cleared with premium FUA.


jenosmaverick

Part of the 12% with a E1S1 Boothill!


Alert_Assistant_9364

E1S0 here, so proud of my boy. He hits like a truck in AS (950k+ to Argenti with a 3 star LC with 2pc2pc is insane lmao)


Sudoweedo

Why care? Bro is performing spectacularly. 


Cr4zy_Cycl0ne

Yeah but it still sucks to see ur favorite character be unappreciated :(


Sudoweedo

Well yknow, people have their own preferences. I'm sure there are characters you're not pulling for that other people love too. Know what I mean?


Quiet_Ad_9073

Imagine how Argenti fan feel


Cr4zy_Cycl0ne

Yeah no I know and I get that, people have preferences and all and that’s fine. But when you really like a character you want other people to also like them, yk?


AbsAndAssAppreciator

It’s rough pulling men and having them always be slightly less meta than a girl.


GGABueno

Aventurine is the best support and Daniel is still up there.


M00nIze

Only Aventurine is best sustain. Daniel is now slightly less meta than Acheron and FF even if he is still up there, so OP's comment still makes sense.


Hunny_ImGay

and even so Aventurine isn't the best sustain for top tier clear team either. he just provides so much for casual-ish player. From what I know optimize players or speed runners tend to go for houhou. she's best for so many teams (DOT, hyper carry jing yuan, argenti, IL, JL, etc.) while aventurine is just best for premium FUA and second place for every other team (which is why he's "the best" overall don't get me wrong). and he's also not that far ahead of houhou in FUA team either cuz topaz and ratio and robin is always HUNGRY for energy + atk.


Terrasovia

Aventurine has highest usage rate among all the sustains second time in a row (and MOC stats are not made by casual players). That as well as a having a team where no one else can replace him (FUA) are definition of meta.


Double-Resolution-79

DanielIL was the meta Dps when he came out. Are we gonna forget how he overshadowed the rest of the limited Dps?


M00nIze

For one patch before he shares it with JL. Acheron gets 2 patches and then shares it with FF (another female). I guess "always" wasn't the right word, but "mostly". Honestly, aside from DHIL and Aventurine, no other male was considered meta compared to the amount of meta females there are. And the biggest factor why males feel weaker in general is the fact that Harmony units which is arguably the most futureproof meta path, we have 0 off. And only 1 support male after an entire year, which according to v1 is only a Acheron support while being comparable to 4* on non-Acheron teams. Not saying males are weak and unusable, just more lacklustre in comparison to female kits imo.


Double-Resolution-79

The people here have selective bias.


arially

I honestly am bottlenecked building HMC and Gallagher.... I didn't initially intend to pull him, so I didn't prepare very well and I am still working on everyone's relics and traces... 100% not good enough to run endgame modes yet 😅


Ok-Luck633

Not sure how this list come about but I use him \(^~^)/ he's perfect


Good-Maize-7320

BH and FF share the Argenti side. I’m guessing people chose to use FF…it’s cool. BH is still a top 5 dmg dealer imo…he is just not as shiny to most. Hes not for everyone. Thats fine


Rowger00

idk cocolia is super FF friendly too, but assuming you have acheron then yea argenti becomes the FF side


Good-Maize-7320

Exactly. Most people own Acheron. She is so hyped. I took her to clear the first side… For Argenti I just used a FF/BH team…they are such a good pair


Smiley_Idly

AS mode is such a disappointment. I was expecting hunt mode, not moc break.


0kkotsu

I despise Apocalyptic Shadow. I’m hoping it gets revamped somehow in further updates


trueblue1982

I guess i am the 12% ! haha


AveugleMan

Ngl when I saw how much Firefly had been put forward this patch, I just hated the entire thing. I didn't hate her before, but I sure hate when a game wants me to love a specific character. It's like it's saying "Look at this, we know you absolutely adore this". Well, I might have if she didn't take 50% of the CGs time, but now I just hate her I'm sorry. Every single other Penacony character, as well as others from the IPC, didn't get as much marketing, trailers and stuff like this, as she did. She is: a stellar on hunter, part of a mech program blabla, has a deadly anthropy disease and she's a waifu. Ah, and man, her actually being her, is SOOOO stupid. Blade saying: "My life is an eternal purgatory, and Sam, Sam's good at creating purgatory" doesn't make any sense now, unless you're like ppl saying what SW said still makes sense if it's "about video games lmao". Idk man, I absolutely loved Sam when I first saw him, and I also knew Firefly was somehow connected to him bc of how he appeared after she "died", but I didn't expect it to be like this, and I sure hate it.


Rowger00

I agree they kinda ruined Sam by attaching her to it


hafiymalek

Glad that I am part of that 12.73 and 6.02 :)


-Roxaaa

wait thats crazy?? ive been loving him sm i cant believe hes this underrated??


[deleted]

Coz most hsr players are waifu wanters. The important thing is, Boothill is an effective dps and do his job with ease.


Gymdadsbad

Well the thing is, he’s not usable everywhere. Like you can use him in MoC and the new gamemode but not in pure fiction for example. He’s really just a boss killer. Since I got him, I can clear moc and the new gamemode to get all the rewards. But I’m not even done leveling his talents and I got ruan mei in 30 pulls too. So now I’m leveling/building etc…. And I want to use him somewhere else but in swarm disaster it suddenly feels like he deals a lot less damage. Like with the bosses in the new gamemode, I could even hit 700k but in swarm disaster he hits 100k against bosses. Idk whats up with that.


Shikare111

About the damage done in divergent universe vs swarm disaster, don’t forget the equations and the weighted curios. Maybe those contributed a lot to Boot Hill’s damage.


Equivalent-Ad-6194

No good path that buffs him specifically unfortunately. Even the new break blessings some are meant for firefly obviously


Puzzlehead_Artist

my copium is because he basically showed up late to the pancony fiesta and his story is FAR from being resolved, we’ll see him featured again in the future hopefully more prominently when oswaldo is in the picture crossing my fingers for him and aventurine to cause chaos for the IPC together as besties. i need my 2 bois hanging out together more to plot the ultimate demise of their enemies. they so precious🥹


EmittingLight

thats kinda fucking MAD I would not have full cleared without him


Storm-Rider

Hunt characters always get shafted. . We need a game mode for specifically Hunt characters. I thought Pure fiction was gonna be for erudition but no, destruction took over that mode AGAIN. I think a game mode where they penalise you for multitargeting and deduct shit load of points if you attacked multiple enemies in a single action. That's the only way destruction characters or other multitargeting paths won't be able to be meta in that mode and The hunt characters will shine once again.


SnooCakes4852

(might be happening in the next AS)


EnvironmentalistAnt

The people that I know that solely plays the game not only skip him but hate him. The cosplayers I know all love him though.


lady_dmc

people hate him? wow... I thought they had given him a very likeable personality.


Peregriri

That’s crazy ngl. What’s there to hate? Bro’s barely present as is. He’s too swag for them frfr 🤠


Kwayke9

He ran just before Firefly. And Ruan Mei. So yes, this is just low ownership


de0false

Well... just like Wriothesley stuck between Neuvi and Furina, Boothill stuck between Robin and Firefly... it's rough, but all that matters is that I got them and I love them (。>﹏<。)


Alert_Assistant_9364

Robin's meh though but I guess that's just me. (I skipped Robin for Boothill with zero regrets and maybe that's why I got his E1 at 10 pity)


Rowger00

I honestly find her as boring as FF lol


Magnium43

Don't take this for granted. The sample size is pretty small. It really doesn't mean much till we get official stats from hoyo


Horny_boy55677

I think I'll take the fact he has a higher rate than seele and dhil as enough of a win


twiceymicey

I will forever stand with boothill


StrongFaithlessness5

His banner was terrible. I tried to reach the 50/50, but every single multi was so painful... I didn't want any of the 4* characters.


AxolotlWolfie

Im still working on building him and his team 😓


MarionberryOne8969

I was confused with this then I realized it's apocalyptic shadow it's a new game mode also what are the rates for simulated universe and forgotten hall for him?


BlakeTheMotherFucker

This is ofc not based on all players, but still very disappointing


overniu

Why even bother? You like how character perform? Use it. All those rates and other things are useless information. Why even look at other people?


lililia

Honestly, I planned on getting him. Due to my lack of jades and the high probability of hitting hard pity along with losing 50/50 I decided against it. As much as I don't care about battles I really needed a support not another dps :( and Jiaoqiu was coming, rumored to be an amazing Pela upgrade, finally a male support character. Unfortunately he got the short stick of being helpful to Acheron only and not even that much so as not to overpower her too much :| the poor treatment continues ig, the probability of him getting his kit changed and buffed like FF isn't as high


azul360

Honestly I like him a lot more than I thought. Firefly feels like you have to have EVERYTHING right for her to feel good (exact artifacts, talents, light cone, exact support buffs up). Whereas with Boothill I don't have that and he is doing CRAZY damage just single target only which is the only drawback. (I went in with liking Firefly's design but not at all her suit and not thinking anything about Boothill so no bias at all haha)


cuakman

Mihoyo gigabuffed firefly and made her 2 sets exclusive for her, they did him dirty, I still pulled for him and his LC, I love him, but can't argue against ff being the better choice (I don't have her btw and I won't get her).


SmallAlbinoChild

Bro had the worst banner since the games release and was placed directly before the strongest support and one of the most hyped characters in the game’s history. Not really surprising unfortunately it’s a shame since he’s so fun to play


swaysderek

He’s a great DPS, I got him E2 and he’ll be part of my MOC 12 clear every time


lovelyhearthstone

TBH with you, I was going to pull for boothill until the firefly v3 update. She just got buffed too much and you only have enough supports for one break dps. I think he is more fun to play, but he does less damage while being hunt and having to build trickshots. He got done dirty by hyv, and that's really all there is to it.


Darkins_will_Ryze

He definitely was skipped by a lot of people. Can't be helped, being put between two of the most marketed girls in the game.


Spartan_Souls

Plus his lack in marketing compared to them and his lack of story relevance compared to them as well Dude is fun as hell and honestly has the best set up for a story and we'll have to wait probably a whole 3-4 patches to finally get to it. Unless the IPC and Boothill are being shoved in with the Xianzhou stuff too


Ok_Light_4835

+ not everyone has him build or has teammates to make him shine. I only just now pulled RM and didn't use him on last stage bc my other team is weak defense wise. So there are many different reasons.


happymudkipz

to be fair, the same argument could be made even more for firefly, yet she has 58%.


Ok_Light_4835

Well FF is way more popular there is no denying it. So many ppl had pulled for her and we saw this in numbers.


r3xincognito

Maybe read what's written on the graphic before posting


Famous-Extent9625

It's honestly kinda gross how much they're pushing the FF waifu agenda. The other ones weren't even this bad.


SSfox__

Not everyone can handle a revolver and ride a horse


jingyuansgf

may i get the full picture? pretty please


Rowger00

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/1dmh7b7/apocalyptic_shadow_difficulty_4_characters_and/


Quetzal_29f

It's a small sample size of self-reported numbers (how many people used a character in this game mode) on a Chinese community of meta players. TLDR: character usage rate of a few thousand players in 2.3 Apocalyptic Shadow.


mewyonaisse

I just managed to get him built well enough to use him almost everywhere, so i just started using him 🫂


DIO_likes--cherries

I used him and 3* the 4th stage, he's genuinely so good and he's also funny. IDK why people don't like him


splash_sploosh

Really thought the hunt characters would get a boost with AS but evidently not… There was a follow up boost and everyone has Ratio but the RRAT team is still low. And poor booty


ZealousidealClerk393

Wait. So us who pulled the badass space Cowboy are very rare? YEAHHHHHHHHHH


vixx-2001

I love my boothill, and I’m glad I picked him up because it was that or Clara. Not hate to her but I haven’t planned on getting her since she only decided to join my roster when pulling for jingliu. I had only planned for boothill for my physical coverage.


Naelyan4

https://preview.redd.it/4shcp68z679d1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e463d32fec7bc8927bb9ab7b75b7308bd0bcb74


Life_Flatworm4874

yes, ez skip


oki_doki2

Didn't get him, sadly, Sorry bros


Sex_with_DrRatio

Holy crap, ruan mei is one of the most boring characters ever


DarkRunner0

True, I particularly don't like her design wise (which scientist dresses like that and plays a guitar) and personality wise, but she is a Harmony powerhouse, she won't go away from break teams until the moment Hoyo releases a better break support.


-SilentHill-

Male


HexagenODM

argenti. i feel like that answers your question (i used him for argenti and i needed some surgical precision to beat him with 3\*)


Haunting-Shower-6500

Sadge


Consistent_Taste_843

What site is this?


Rowger00

its a graph from a user called lvlurarti


basilitron

amazing how they fucked over seele. made a whole new boss mode supposedly good for hunt units, with a boss that has quantum weakness, and still nobody plays her


hammondismydaddy

Acheron truly is the swiss army knife for every game mode lol


DarkRunner0

Ngl, I did many Divergent Universe runs with Boothill, but 3x more runs with Acheron (I'm at rank 40), because she can cut short the runs considerably.


Vill1on

And here's me: Having a blast with him and HTB for being an absolute powerhouse; bosses get wiped with no sweat - partnered with Welt's slow he's unbelievable.


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Quetzal_29f

These charts are useless. Self-reported numbers from a few thousand players on a Chinese HSR community.


Neghai

Because he's a male character and unless it's a super meta character, people only care for waifus 🤢


Camhapmcp

I wanted him but got welt :( so sad, I’ll get him next time!


softhuskies

he tried his hardest to skip me by throwing a yanqing and a yanqing lightcone at me back to back but I got him e0s1


No_Variation_9282

I didnt have RM, and used Boothill to clear at the highest level… took him three shots total once broken (both “waves”) So… it may be 12%, but that’s a bad indicator of performance methinks 


Barunificent

Yes. Because most people saved for FF. I say this as someone who E6'd Boothill the first chance I got.


Least_Lawfulness_205

I tried getting him but some old Nihility dude blocked the screen :/


why-not-0407

boothill has been CARRYING me in apocalyptic shadow love him sm


AncientOfShadows

12% is so fudgin' disrespectful to our space cowboy


SootKrate

I TRIED SO HARD TO GET HIM 😭


seallover897

I really wanted him and would've gotten him if he wasn't right before firefly 😭😭 boothill on your rerun you will be mine


Acheron2030

Yes


A2_Zera

I tried 😭 but when he comes back I will find him and add him to my break DPS collection with FF and xueyi


12859637

Probably a lot skipped to get Firefly.


Yosuny

Yes? I mean by paying attention to leaks and testings basically showcased how much Firefly was more effective than Boothill in every way. I know I saw so many salty posts before Firefly's arrival but those same people have shut their mouths now and deleted their post to save face. (I know who you are). I came on here to check to see if people on here are still being on depression about their pulls on Boothill and a month later it's still going I see. Boothill was only good during MoC thanks to the trotters giving break boost + extra turn to hurry up and get those annoying 3 stacks to make him at least a decent Hunt character. In the end, our voices our opinions our viewpoints don't mean shit towards Hoyoverse. If you pulled for Boothill, then fucking pull him because you enjoy his character. Looking at more things to keep denying yourselves are just making you and your fandom worse. Unless you are rich or have rich parents with their credit cards, then pull everything and don't think about investment or retirement then. (NOTE: I've turned off reply notifications so I won't see any new replies. I just say my piece and move on. TY)


mystercash

aint nobody reading about your xd