I’d love to set up my own shop and sell people safe carts because I understand, I’ve been there. My first cart was a shit boof Torch from this random headshop near my place. Ended up having to throw it away because it gave me 10-15 min coughing fits and burned.
I highly suggest learning how to make your own, it’s surprisingly easy and gives you the peace of mind knowing you’re not vaping boof.
In theory it's a good idea but unless you're filling it with lab tested distillate/live resin/rosin there's still no guarantee that it's not boof - still a possibility of heavy metals/PGRs/pesticides/residuals. I make my own from strains I breed, grow, extract and test to be sure they're clean. I usually just use a dab pen for concentrates tho way easier and hit better.
That’s true with all weed though. Unfortunately I can’t trust anything I don’t grow myself. My goal eventually is to grow my own so I can make my own rosin carts. Do you use any specific hardware to make your rosin? I’ve been thinking about copping a nugsmasher or something similar
We have a few different presses that we use. We have a 12 Ton Dabpress that we use for small test batches and as a travel rig / loaner. It's the cheapest out of the bunch but it works great. We also have a Low Temp Press in the crew that is bad ass, and the Triminator TRP Stack for large runs. The Nugsmasher's are great and highly recommended but that depends on budget and use.
Torch definitely burned, it was the harshest, but I think part of the reason for the harsh hit is that it contained d8.
I would definitely like to make my own and terp it how I like.
If you can source concentrate you can make your own carts. I use the concentrate from NYN and Bison Bud from Vibe and I get great results.
You don’t even need terpenes, a simple decarb and syringe into a cartridge will suffice.
You're right.
Fwiw, the Torch and Space Club come sealed in bags inside of boxes. The boxes aren't tamperproof, and you can literally buy altnoid vapes from the same company with Torch...
There are brands that are "cleaner than other brands", but obviously that's all just speculation.
Even with the local created carts that have lab testing, without regulation, you're not sure what you're getting. If you can vape flower, that's currently the safest.
Should be only weeks to months before the first legal shop opens in Buffalo. Though, I guess we can't be sure they will carry vapes.
Nativa Cannabis in Niagara also has vapes. They claim they are lab tested, but the labs weren't on the website last I checked.
They are regulated, but by Seneca Nation, not OCM. I don't know what their regulations entail. The carts are like $60.
Sup haters and shills? It's me with my "evidence". I used these boof carts so you don't have to!
These were purchased at two shops highly recommended in the Buffalo Cannabis Subreddits.
I don't recommend using any of these, I personally don't consider them safe.
1. Torch: Sold as THC, actually hemp derived. Gets you the highest, but hits hard and feels dirty. You can google this one and it says it was made with "THC-M, THC-A and THC-P"...
2. Nickel City: tasted like fertilizer, probably gets you high, I'm not that stupid
3. Space Club: smooth and dirty at the same time, gets you high, but also hemp-derived weird shit "Delta 8, THC-O, THC-P"
4. Glo: weak, give raw garden a run for its money, likely give you a headache
r/fakecartridges does the calling out bad carts. In the local scene we do the opposite and praise the good ones but don't mention the bad ones unless they are d8 or alt cannabinoids. We have tested and/or sampled most of the carts in this area. We have only praised a couple different brands...
Spoiler: unless they’re made with Rosin and quality hardware they are garbage, including nickel city which is constantly shilled here. Making clean, potent carts isn’t very hard yet it seems nobody around here other than headiez does that.
Even if they're made with rosin they could still have pesticides/PGRs/molds/mycotoxins/contaminants. The problem with carts is unless they have legit and verified tests with the proper labeling to match, it's all just mystery oil and should be treated like it.
True, but that goes for literally all flower In the area too, the very few local producers who make Rosin let alone Rosin carts normally are single source, and if they are trusted to sell quality, safe flower I would think the carts would carry the same piece of mind.
Agreed. Only problem is even with single source indoor grown, there can still be issues. One crop might have pests or diseases, which could mean some form of pesticides, even organic ones, could still be used during flower to save the crop. NY tests for organic pesticides.
I got clones from 2 different popular vendors around here, and from the one they were covered in spider mites, and that flower was definitely on the shelves when I got the clones. The other clones had powdery mildew and that flower was also on the shelves.
Why do only very few of these companies have their flower lab tested? They spend all this money on branding, logos, packaging and tables at events, but not a dime on testing? It doesn't make sense. I've been going out of my way to get my flower and concentrates tested since 2017 when it was damn near impossible to get anything tested around the country. Now that it's legal, barely anybody has tests with their flower or concentrates when it's easily available.
One of those brands that was praised is pictured...
I'm confused about your business model, are the tests publicly available, or are you suggesting I pay you to send vapes to a lab for me?
Where is the list of local products that you've tested?
Are you suggesting I don't speak up about bad products?
None of those brands pictured have been praised by us. Nah def not asking you to pay us to send anything to a lab for you. We have our own lab set up for in-house / r&d testing and have tested 500 different samples of all local brands and products.
We only share what we've been authorized to share or if that company shares then we confirm the test results.
It should be talked about since people deserve to know and I appreciate you doing that, just be ready for them to be pissed off and petty. We have spoken up about bunk shit but it's better for us to just focus on the good ones.
Thank you for the clarification and your service.
Wish I knew this before dipping into boof, but now I've learned a few things, even if I'm getting cancer early.
Likewise, we appreciate what you're doing and will gladly back you up on this. The whole point of legalization is to have clean products. Most places missed that memo.
I'm not sure I should call them out explicitly. It's likely this post has already pissed some people off by sharing my side of the experience I've had with the shops. There is a possibility the shops were swindled by a supplier, however, that illustrates a reason regulation is important.
I'm trying to provide information for harm reduction. I've been vaping for a while now, lived in a state with recreational, and now I experience this. I've aged a year in the past month trying out dirty carts, don't be me.
Other brands I've tried that I will avoid: jeeter, west coast cure, packwoods, raw garden, ghost (was good.. but leaked.. because I think the shop filled it). One shop sold me a Lion's Breathe, a brand that has put people in the hospital in the past.
Based on the brands, and my comments elsewhere, you should be able to guess.
All those brands are not real in this area, they are just fake packaging and Chinese carts bought online and filled. Real jeeters, raw garden, etc hit nice when they are from actual legal dispos, not sticker shops. These shops like vibe and other sticker shops sell these Boof carts and know they are Boof carts, but sell them because people buy. I wouldn’t hit any non Rosin cart in this area I didn’t make myself, let alone pay money for one.
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Thanks! Did you see this article about Delta 8?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/well/mind/delta-8-thc-marijuana.html?unlocked_article_code=rbwU2g9PDDs-n33X067DvTXyRbF1Nu-jMyRiS0HFTTNMIXfXb7H7UzHDJwxqJRgVxxYOw7iexlGuq-KM5rqKUG_ESvcuyvKWjZ5tc_PC6aRpkxQaaR7rLtkGjYReEKWwYyxbqf4tS_oKPcTTzSLkMrva4H_Wipa7bHzGfmC_oXGgEQcp91Qwlflv-rOSdHBkc3bcoparWHST05JOZoc4AXrrvgyDHzhKVis3fT3JWNEFWJRaoxg658H9TxrtMbQ8E1RJd2o-TG-9UcoSzwYEquoP7UjAFSBxfeYbhd8E1C0WPSTySU6-sEHDi7LGTRTIAHSLL6pifyWpqlRWYNWiT6s&giftCopy=0_NoCopy&smid=url-share
I've seen a bunch of them about it and just read that one. As a CBD/Hemp company we have avoided it from the start. I tried some d8 gummies a while ago and didn't like the effects at all, same with a bunch of friends. I'd rather stick to the real stuff.
Just remember the word NO.......nobody is forcing you to buy. Think about the pricing it's around half what you would pay for quality tested product from a dispensary. If these were the real deal how would anybody make money selling these for 30-50? Common sense is the best denominator for everybody. If it seems to good it is.
I challenge y’all to try my live resin carts. I can provide the sourcing. These are lab tested. And amazing tasting. All ceramic hardware. Feel free to dm.
I like Nickel city so I am bias towards them and pick them up for friends and family as easy birthday presents. There is another local guy slyvapes that I have tried but that is literally the extent of my cart experience.
There are a lot of local growers you should talk to and just source your own stuff. Gifted makes most of their own stuff if you wanted to make the run.
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This is why I suggest smoking backdoor licensed carts and disposables. If you look hard enough you can find the right source but don’t get surprised when you have to pay high. Remember you get what you pay for not just to get high but to be safe while gettin high. I’m talking about legit raw gardens, crescos, 710 labs, punch vapes, connected & alien labs etc.
CHeck out the brand “Juice” they are amazing! Locally made in New York, no pg, vg etc they also just released a liquid Diamond + love resin three grammar…you can find them almost anywhere!
Happy smokin!
Sounds like altnoid garbage.
1. "Liquid diamonds"
2. Resin, not rosin
2. 3g
Are you talking about Jeeter Juice?
Edit: Why is your post history just spamming GVW locations?
I’d love to set up my own shop and sell people safe carts because I understand, I’ve been there. My first cart was a shit boof Torch from this random headshop near my place. Ended up having to throw it away because it gave me 10-15 min coughing fits and burned. I highly suggest learning how to make your own, it’s surprisingly easy and gives you the peace of mind knowing you’re not vaping boof.
In theory it's a good idea but unless you're filling it with lab tested distillate/live resin/rosin there's still no guarantee that it's not boof - still a possibility of heavy metals/PGRs/pesticides/residuals. I make my own from strains I breed, grow, extract and test to be sure they're clean. I usually just use a dab pen for concentrates tho way easier and hit better.
That’s true with all weed though. Unfortunately I can’t trust anything I don’t grow myself. My goal eventually is to grow my own so I can make my own rosin carts. Do you use any specific hardware to make your rosin? I’ve been thinking about copping a nugsmasher or something similar
The really cool kids make their own. If you needed a hand let me know.
We have a few different presses that we use. We have a 12 Ton Dabpress that we use for small test batches and as a travel rig / loaner. It's the cheapest out of the bunch but it works great. We also have a Low Temp Press in the crew that is bad ass, and the Triminator TRP Stack for large runs. The Nugsmasher's are great and highly recommended but that depends on budget and use.
Torch definitely burned, it was the harshest, but I think part of the reason for the harsh hit is that it contained d8. I would definitely like to make my own and terp it how I like.
If you can source concentrate you can make your own carts. I use the concentrate from NYN and Bison Bud from Vibe and I get great results. You don’t even need terpenes, a simple decarb and syringe into a cartridge will suffice.
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Talk to me like I'm stupid (because I am). What do you see that tells you they're not legit? Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
You're right. Fwiw, the Torch and Space Club come sealed in bags inside of boxes. The boxes aren't tamperproof, and you can literally buy altnoid vapes from the same company with Torch...
Space club is produced here in NY, those are literally the only ones I’ve found that aren’t fake.
Sure bro. Google it, full of altnoids.
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There are brands that are "cleaner than other brands", but obviously that's all just speculation. Even with the local created carts that have lab testing, without regulation, you're not sure what you're getting. If you can vape flower, that's currently the safest.
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Should be only weeks to months before the first legal shop opens in Buffalo. Though, I guess we can't be sure they will carry vapes. Nativa Cannabis in Niagara also has vapes. They claim they are lab tested, but the labs weren't on the website last I checked. They are regulated, but by Seneca Nation, not OCM. I don't know what their regulations entail. The carts are like $60.
Sup haters and shills? It's me with my "evidence". I used these boof carts so you don't have to! These were purchased at two shops highly recommended in the Buffalo Cannabis Subreddits. I don't recommend using any of these, I personally don't consider them safe. 1. Torch: Sold as THC, actually hemp derived. Gets you the highest, but hits hard and feels dirty. You can google this one and it says it was made with "THC-M, THC-A and THC-P"... 2. Nickel City: tasted like fertilizer, probably gets you high, I'm not that stupid 3. Space Club: smooth and dirty at the same time, gets you high, but also hemp-derived weird shit "Delta 8, THC-O, THC-P" 4. Glo: weak, give raw garden a run for its money, likely give you a headache
r/fakecartridges does the calling out bad carts. In the local scene we do the opposite and praise the good ones but don't mention the bad ones unless they are d8 or alt cannabinoids. We have tested and/or sampled most of the carts in this area. We have only praised a couple different brands...
Spoiler: unless they’re made with Rosin and quality hardware they are garbage, including nickel city which is constantly shilled here. Making clean, potent carts isn’t very hard yet it seems nobody around here other than headiez does that.
Even if they're made with rosin they could still have pesticides/PGRs/molds/mycotoxins/contaminants. The problem with carts is unless they have legit and verified tests with the proper labeling to match, it's all just mystery oil and should be treated like it.
True, but that goes for literally all flower In the area too, the very few local producers who make Rosin let alone Rosin carts normally are single source, and if they are trusted to sell quality, safe flower I would think the carts would carry the same piece of mind.
Agreed. Only problem is even with single source indoor grown, there can still be issues. One crop might have pests or diseases, which could mean some form of pesticides, even organic ones, could still be used during flower to save the crop. NY tests for organic pesticides. I got clones from 2 different popular vendors around here, and from the one they were covered in spider mites, and that flower was definitely on the shelves when I got the clones. The other clones had powdery mildew and that flower was also on the shelves. Why do only very few of these companies have their flower lab tested? They spend all this money on branding, logos, packaging and tables at events, but not a dime on testing? It doesn't make sense. I've been going out of my way to get my flower and concentrates tested since 2017 when it was damn near impossible to get anything tested around the country. Now that it's legal, barely anybody has tests with their flower or concentrates when it's easily available.
One of those brands that was praised is pictured... I'm confused about your business model, are the tests publicly available, or are you suggesting I pay you to send vapes to a lab for me? Where is the list of local products that you've tested? Are you suggesting I don't speak up about bad products?
None of those brands pictured have been praised by us. Nah def not asking you to pay us to send anything to a lab for you. We have our own lab set up for in-house / r&d testing and have tested 500 different samples of all local brands and products. We only share what we've been authorized to share or if that company shares then we confirm the test results. It should be talked about since people deserve to know and I appreciate you doing that, just be ready for them to be pissed off and petty. We have spoken up about bunk shit but it's better for us to just focus on the good ones.
Thank you for the clarification and your service. Wish I knew this before dipping into boof, but now I've learned a few things, even if I'm getting cancer early.
Likewise, we appreciate what you're doing and will gladly back you up on this. The whole point of legalization is to have clean products. Most places missed that memo.
Which shops?
I'm not sure I should call them out explicitly. It's likely this post has already pissed some people off by sharing my side of the experience I've had with the shops. There is a possibility the shops were swindled by a supplier, however, that illustrates a reason regulation is important. I'm trying to provide information for harm reduction. I've been vaping for a while now, lived in a state with recreational, and now I experience this. I've aged a year in the past month trying out dirty carts, don't be me. Other brands I've tried that I will avoid: jeeter, west coast cure, packwoods, raw garden, ghost (was good.. but leaked.. because I think the shop filled it). One shop sold me a Lion's Breathe, a brand that has put people in the hospital in the past. Based on the brands, and my comments elsewhere, you should be able to guess.
All those brands are not real in this area, they are just fake packaging and Chinese carts bought online and filled. Real jeeters, raw garden, etc hit nice when they are from actual legal dispos, not sticker shops. These shops like vibe and other sticker shops sell these Boof carts and know they are Boof carts, but sell them because people buy. I wouldn’t hit any non Rosin cart in this area I didn’t make myself, let alone pay money for one.
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Have you tried Muhameds? I've seen them around and I'm curious
Old Muha Meds are mostly d8. New ones are legit backdoor but I wouldn't buy them because of previous shady practices. We have tested both.
Thanks! Did you see this article about Delta 8? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/well/mind/delta-8-thc-marijuana.html?unlocked_article_code=rbwU2g9PDDs-n33X067DvTXyRbF1Nu-jMyRiS0HFTTNMIXfXb7H7UzHDJwxqJRgVxxYOw7iexlGuq-KM5rqKUG_ESvcuyvKWjZ5tc_PC6aRpkxQaaR7rLtkGjYReEKWwYyxbqf4tS_oKPcTTzSLkMrva4H_Wipa7bHzGfmC_oXGgEQcp91Qwlflv-rOSdHBkc3bcoparWHST05JOZoc4AXrrvgyDHzhKVis3fT3JWNEFWJRaoxg658H9TxrtMbQ8E1RJd2o-TG-9UcoSzwYEquoP7UjAFSBxfeYbhd8E1C0WPSTySU6-sEHDi7LGTRTIAHSLL6pifyWpqlRWYNWiT6s&giftCopy=0_NoCopy&smid=url-share
I've seen a bunch of them about it and just read that one. As a CBD/Hemp company we have avoided it from the start. I tried some d8 gummies a while ago and didn't like the effects at all, same with a bunch of friends. I'd rather stick to the real stuff.
I haven't seen those around yet. I also haven't been back to the shops since the last time I was burned.
Damn I got a glo from Vibe 😔
Just remember the word NO.......nobody is forcing you to buy. Think about the pricing it's around half what you would pay for quality tested product from a dispensary. If these were the real deal how would anybody make money selling these for 30-50? Common sense is the best denominator for everybody. If it seems to good it is.
I'm confused, the brand you often promote is in that list.
Coming on here and knocking a business and product because you "think" it's boof!?!? Quit complaining and don't buy the product. Simple.
I challenge y’all to try my live resin carts. I can provide the sourcing. These are lab tested. And amazing tasting. All ceramic hardware. Feel free to dm.
Why'd you waste your time, money, and lungs? People are just going to read "well, it got him high" and keep using.
I'm sorry, I thought this was America!
That's a dumb response. But hey, spend your money on unregulated shit however you want because it's America.
Randy Marsh, South Park
I aint got time to deal with this shit, after going through the same during the e-cig craze. Straight from the earth, to my dome, or not at all.
Most space clubs ain’t boof, I had the sherbet zaza and probably one of the best cart’s I’ve had
I'm not the one bitching about these brands because I make a choice to use one of them occasionally.
I like Nickel city so I am bias towards them and pick them up for friends and family as easy birthday presents. There is another local guy slyvapes that I have tried but that is literally the extent of my cart experience. There are a lot of local growers you should talk to and just source your own stuff. Gifted makes most of their own stuff if you wanted to make the run.
I've heard some good things about them but who makes them? Where are they sourced from? Do they have lab tests?
Lab test are very pricey, anyone local who says their stuff is tested is lying and/or giving you falsified results.
Nickel city are my favorites.
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This is why I suggest smoking backdoor licensed carts and disposables. If you look hard enough you can find the right source but don’t get surprised when you have to pay high. Remember you get what you pay for not just to get high but to be safe while gettin high. I’m talking about legit raw gardens, crescos, 710 labs, punch vapes, connected & alien labs etc.
CHeck out the brand “Juice” they are amazing! Locally made in New York, no pg, vg etc they also just released a liquid Diamond + love resin three grammar…you can find them almost anywhere! Happy smokin!
Sounds like altnoid garbage. 1. "Liquid diamonds" 2. Resin, not rosin 2. 3g Are you talking about Jeeter Juice? Edit: Why is your post history just spamming GVW locations?
Smart cart
there was an instagram account that would test all kinds of carts had hella followers does anybody know ?