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T1mberVVolf

Cant believe 12 people in a locked closet are making these decisions


TigerBasket

They don't make decisions, they get told what to do and find a way to rationalize it


Accomplished-Bad-481

Yeah tbf no one seemed to like this group even before the decision was made. On that we all seemed to agree.


MajorFuzzelz_24

I actually believe this now.


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ZingBurford

They can literally just copy the FCS playoff format and I'd be happy with it


OfficialHavik

I'd prefer it in the 16 team format as even I think 24 teams is a bit excessive, but 16 teams, 8 auto-bids for the 8 best conferences gives everyone a shot and is in line with literally every other NCAA sport where half the field is auto-bids.


shot-by-ford

Named 'Boo Corrigan' no less. AD at NC State. I'm amazed Washington still got in tbh.


Weekly-Ad-6887

It’s a big 10 team.


ThisIsPunn

By that logic, two SEC teams got in... Wait, that totally tracks.


iHopeYouLikeBanjos

I’m going to yell his name really loud at the home opener next year.


I_wanna_ask

When you realize that all of this is always about the money, it begins to make sense.


randomwalktoFI

Based on this argument (and the Jordan Travis one), if FSU isn't at 4 then they should be at 7. Putting them at 5 is some pretend concession that winning their conference is both more important than SOS but not important enough without any proof that they should lose to leave them out. One key reasons the Pac-12 died is because they were effectively eliminated in September or even the preseason. Somehow this was worse given how they had the early marquee win against the same conference that kept them out, didn't lose, and the ACC was an overall decent conference and interesting title race. Saying your undefeated team is not invited basically confirms your conference was eliminated.


YouSeemNiceXB

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coloradobuffalos

I don't want to play Georgia they should be in /s


harp9r

I don’t want to play New Mexico State. They should be in


Equitaurus

I don’t want to play the Philadelphia Eagles, they should be #1


BIG_DICK_WHITT

Stupid sexy Britain Covey


c_will

Why is Washington in over Georgia? If they played tomorrow on a neutral field, I would definitely take Georgia. Therefore, Georgia should be in in the playoffs over Washington. This is the "logic" being employed by the committee.


theJamesKPolk

Also - Why then is FSU still above Georgia in the rankings?


Latter-Possibility

Because the whole thing is a farce and maybe they wanted to stop Michigan from winning a title….I don’t know but leaving an undefeated power 5 champion out is ridiculous


inventionnerd

The real reason is they needed a SEC team in there. They couldn't justify putting in Bama over Texas because Texas is also a conference champ and has the H2H over Bama. So, they had to kick out FSU to get both Texas and Bama in. If UGA won, it would have been UGA, Michigan, Washington, and FSU 100%. They wouldn't have had Texas jump FSU because that's a simple thing to defend. "It's an undefeated P5 champ vs a 1 loss champ. Wins and losses matter". But without a SEC rep, they had to pull some bullshit to get one in.


Shenanigangster

If they’re doing that, the playoff should be Michigan-Alabama and Georgia-Ohio State


WillowMutual

Stop, the committee can only get so erect


dogwoodmaple

Unironically agree *sobs through my mimosa*


WoozyMaple

Ranking FSU behind Bama but in front of Georgia makes no sense. If Bama it's better than current FSU then so is Georgia, they just wanted a SEC team in.


dogwoodmaple

That’s my selfish gripe. If you’re judging a banged up FSU team, there’s no way they are in front of Georgia.


WoozyMaple

They could've made the 4 team playoffs simple. Win your conference, rank by record first, then H2H, ranked wins. Set a criteria and stick to it, constantly changing it to be subjective just go back to the AP


rrrooossssss

then you wouldn’t need to give those 13 committee members attention + a feeling of self importance + money though… think of them!! garbage people perpetuate garbage systems


InVodkaVeritas

I don't want to play Iowa, they should be in.


pm_me_cute_sloths_

I’d rather play Texas than Georgia, so Georgia should be 3 by this logic


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> I don't want to play Georgia they should be in /s You didn't want to play us either. Can we get in!?


soonerwx

But you’re completely right. Anybody in the country would rather play UW, Texas, probably even Michigan than Georgia this week. And might rather play UW or Texas than Ohio State. That’s not how any of this is supposed to work. I can tell you right now the 4 teams I’d least want to play this time next year, so why play the games?


Thin21Mints

The most annoying thing is that their reasoning should have Florida State ranked like 7th or 8th now, but they're not


WerhmatsWormhat

This but unironically. If we're really using that criteria, why aren't they in? Everyone would rather play Washington than UGA (except Oregon).


Chemical_One

So why isn’t UGA in? Cause I sure as hell wouldn’t want to play them!


MoneyManeVick

That's what I'm saying, Georgia probably beats Bama 7 times out of 10. They are still probably the "best" overall team in the country. Where is the logic there?


_George_Costanza

Georgia would be favorites against any team in the country. They were -5.5 against Bama for a reason, and a fluky toss up loss doesn’t change that. A real power ranking playoff would be UGA, Michigan, Bama, Ohio State. What we got is a weird hybrid of “most deserving teams that will be less than 14 point underdogs to Michigan”


BaltimoreBadger23

Right, by that metric (which is bullshit) Georgia should be in and Texas out. If it's not something that can be definitively earned by actual results on the field, it's not real. Thank goodness we have arrived at the final fake national championship.


dgi02

This dudes a fucking hack.


JewishDoggy

BOOOOOOOOOO is his name


HallwayHomicide

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


JerseyDvl

Did you think about the fact that all 4 teams you chose would be in either the Big Ten or SEC next year? Nope, never crossed our minds. Riiiiiiiiight. The playoff going forward is a Big Ten-SEC invitational. Other teams are there to make up the numbers...until a few years from now when the Big Ten and SEC decide they don't really need or want them at all.


cbarks81

I mean FSU would be the only non-B1G/SEC team if this was a 12 team playoff


odsquad64

Don't 5 conference champions get an auto-bid in the 12 team playoff


cbarks81

Wash, Texas, Alabama, Michigan, FSU... 5 champs, lol I know the way I worded it sounds like I just included Texas and Washington in their new conferences


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My guy it’s going to be the SEC invitational *featuring* the Big Ten


monoDK13

All the committee chairs have been. Its a job requirement. No one with any integrity could go out there and make those kind of statements week after week


jaydec02

Why is the NC State AD so obsessed with tearing down FSU and making excuses for why they didn't deserve to make the playoffs? Is he stupid? He has to know the death of the ACC basically kills NC State's relevance


karjacker

sleepy tim robbins looking mf


TheColtOfPersonality

God I want Norvell and all FSU media to go off be and loud as fuck about this


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

They seem to have a new “standpoint” every year. Seems like goalpost moving to me, but what do I know?


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The goalposts are $$$ and SEC bias.


SmokeyOSU

That’s the neat part, they’re the same


Insectshelf3

the criteria changed every year to give the committee cover to put in the teams they want. we’ve known that since 2015.


Swazi

It’s either to get the SEC in at all or to get 2 SEC teams in. That’s it.


gregbraaa

Are you kidding me? Literally just your feelings about a team?


GeauxColonels21

Instead of going by specific reasons to select a team, they selected a team and then created new reasons to validate it.


LukarWarrior

I know the BCS rankings jumped Bama in over Texas while putting FSU at 4, but at least then I can rant about hard, unfeeling computers instead of "vibes."


n1ck2727

As the committee passed the penjamin around, they realized the vibes were “off” with FSU, very sus and mid.


Jeff_Banks_Monkey

He couldn't say the real reason so he had to come up with some BS


MasterGrok

Ya we all know the real reason.


JCiLee

Just have a preseason tournament between Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, and Michigan every year and call it a season. Fucking sham.


n1ck2727

What’s baffling is he could have just not said this, but he chose to anyway. I’m convinced this is supposed to be as controversial as possible to accelerate conference consolidation.


Ndlaxfan

Let’s just let Vegas pick the fucking playoff then!


BaltimoreBadger23

Why even play the season?


CenturionElite

I would boycott the bowl game if I was fsu. This shit is so rigged and downright wrong.


BaltimoreBadger23

Agreed in all counts and I have to imagine the FSU admin thought about it. Ultimately they won't because of 1. The seniors who want to play that one last game and 2. The extra 3-4 weeks of practice which is so valuable to a team. 3. The experience of a high level bowl of the players, and the support squads (cheer, poms, band). But if I were an FSU fan, 0% chance I spend a penny to watch. Edit to correct funny typo.


ultramont

Better: agree to the game, get the practice time, let the support squads do their thing... And then just don't take the field. No game. If they boycott, the bowl just gets the next team. It's all gone a week later. If there's no game, someone is losing money. Lots of money. And that gets attention.


CleaveWarsaw

They get 6 years of practice? Lol


BaltimoreBadger23

FSU has been doing some cutting edge research in the area of time travel.


CleaveWarsaw

Training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber like fuckin Goku lmao


LuPeachemm

That’s what I’m saying if our results and games don’t matter why play in another game? Get fucked committee


BigusDickus099

So, they punish Florida State for winning ugly the past two weeks with a backup QB and then a 3rd string QB. But reward Alabama for struggling to beat a 6-6 Auburn? Right...


Resident-Low-2261

New Mexico State 31-10 Auburn Alabama 27-24 Auburn Auburn would rather play Alabama than New Mexico State. CFP pick Aggies to playoffs?


Fallofmen10

But you don't understand. That's a rivalry. It took gut and heart to win that game...... I hate everythinf


dogwoodmaple

Also: https://x.com/dogwood_maple/status/1731368129664536704?s=46&t=wrovJ5hkyjF8c8Nl5dqn1g


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That truly is fucking ridiculous I don't have a dog in this fight, but when it comes down to it all any SEC team that was undefeated would have been given the benefit of the doubt. Are we not giving FSU who beat 2 SEC teams and ran their conference that same benefit? Edit: For the Alabama fans that think y'all are gonna roll over Michigan when you needed a miracle to beat a team that lost to new mexico state and stevie fucking wonder in the review box to beat Georgia bless your hearts.


FishnGritsnPimpShit

Did you see Stevie catch that falling mic stand? He would have been all over that 4th down play.


Aggravating-Steak-69

FSU won by a bigger margin too… And with their 3rd string qb ranked Louisville by a bigger margin than Bama beat unranked Auburn…


WeAreBert

But they eye test that only counts if you look at yesterday!


mattatao2

my question is why does the eye test only count for offense? cause FSUs defense looked elite yesterday! and Bama's looked like shit against fucking Auburn a week ago!


Pyro1934

Well I mean we struggled against Auburn too! Can’t all be New Mexico St levels of elite.


stups317

>Bama's looked like shit against fucking Auburn a week ago They didn't even look that good yesterday. Yesterday's game was more Georgia playing bad than Alabama playing great.


Aggravating-Steak-69

Idk what I would do if I was a FSU fan, I’m fuming for yall rn and my team already made the playoffs


WeAreBert

I mean aside from the immediate anger I think it reallllly sucks for the integrity of the sport going forward. Especially with the explanation afterwards.


WhiteW0lf13

Bama faced an LSU missing 4 starting DBs, their star DT, and the #1 QB in the nation got knocked out in the 3rd quarter.


Aggravating-Steak-69

It means more tho


TheJURY15

Yeah but that was Week 1, FSU is a different team than they were then without Jordan Travis, therefore that LSU win is null and void. - CFP Playoff Committee, trying to justify ignoring on-field results


Jeff_Banks_Monkey

LSU FSU game never happened because it was so long ago the committee forgot about it


Aggravating-Steak-69

Yea fair Bama’s close win against unranked Auburn also happened ages ago in Week 13, they’re a different team now too since then


SilveryDeath

That just makes sense. LSU was 0-1 after Florida State beat them but were 6-3 after losing to Bama. /s


Shillelagh_Law

What a fucking joke. How can this committee think they are doing anything other than play favourites.


Jeff_Banks_Monkey

S/o to the bama flairs saying it's copium to be mad about the FSU snub


Warmachine_10

Jesus


ArbitraryOrder

But it's not rigged


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KnightofNi92

I mean this is quite simply the committee telling everyone you need to be in the B1G or the SEC to be in the playoffs. They killed the ACC today.


MTUKNMMT

The craziest part of all of this is that we have 3 Natty’s across two teams over the last 10 years. That’s better than everyone but the SEC.


DeploraBill92

Literally. All four teams will be in those two leagues next year. Sickening


thissidedn

Acc sucks this year only 12 teams going bowling.


Squidwardsnose69

This just in: ACC is no longer a P5 conference


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Really though. The decision today expedited the Power 2 conference movement by a huge amount of time


jdprager

Cool then why not drop out Washington and Texas and put in Ohio State and Georgia. They’d be favored by more, so obviously they’re better What a fucking joke. The committee actually pointed to some bullshit like potential Vegas spreads to leave out an undefeated P5 champ


SmarterThanCornPop

After FSU had covered the spread three weeks in a row without their starting QB


VolatileFan

Bama bias is real and will forever be real. Go back to the BCS bc this shit is just reprehensible.


BubbyginkESO

Final BCS had Bama at 3.


NYPD-BLUE

This is the funniest part lololol


L3thal_Inj3ction

I’m fine with a computer saying they’re a top 3 team. I can’t stand this fake bullshit spun by the committee.


VolatileFan

at least under the BCS you could trust it was analytics and not politics


danielbauer1375

Didn't the BCS heavily weigh polls though? There's still quite a bit of bias involved.


inwardninja

Analytics are inherently political


phenixcitywon

they're political sure, but they're a priori political the computer model doesn't change late on a saturday night to spit out the result you want.


FortDuChaine

Certified vandy bro


timeenoughatlas

BCS had Alabama over FSU …


bigbear-08

BCS had Bama at 3 and FSU at 4 Edit: I’m dumb and can’t read for shit


WarEagle9

I miss the unfeeling cold computers.


Tommy_Wisseau_burner

Can I introduce you to my wife?


jaydec02

The unfeeling cold computers had Alabama 3


Rescorla

There is an advantage to Bama being the best program in college football history.


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LukarWarrior

Then it'll be like 2017 again where Bama was the best team, but there are serious questions over whether they should have gotten the opportunity to prove it in the first place.


SmokeyOSU

2011 has entered the chat


Garak_The_Tailor_

That'll be incredibly funny


boregon

They're going to and the salt levels on this sub will be unprecedented.


benginger

BCS has Alabama in as well


fallfornaught

What the actual fuck Look we all get it. Bama is the better team. FSU looked horrible last night and lost their starting QB But they won out and won their conference. What’s the point of even playing the games if this is what happens? What’s the point of being in a power 5 conference?


boardatwork1111

Scrap the regular season, just seed the playoffs based on recruiting rankings. This is such horseshit


Only499

A&M will finally make the playoffs.


bosceltics23

They also only looked horrible because they played with a 3rd string qb who will only play for that one specific game.


BaltimoreBadger23

So a dirty hit by Florida kept you out of the CFP...


bosceltics23

Yes


HallwayHomicide

Yeah y'all should have Rodemaker back pretty soon right?


gregbraaa

He was just in concussion protocol and was a game time decision


FAMUgolfer

In the fucking rain too. Receivers dropped everything


dgi02

The power five is dead my brother. Committee stamping it today that from here on out it’s just the SEC and Big Ten


OleNole10

Yea, let's just quit the season when our best player goes down.


IMKudaimi123

You know people keep saying Alabama is better What proves that? They barely beat auburn, USF, Arkansas (WITH their Qb) while FSU’s only close games healthy we’re Boston college and Miami Sure, Alabama’s schedule overall is tougher. But that doesn’t automatically make them better. And common opponents, FSU neutral beat lsu by more than Alabama beat lsu at home while Daniels missed the whole 4th quarter. There is no logically sound argument for Alabama above FSU.


dusters

Might as well just give Bama the spot at the start of the season.


Aggravating-Steak-69

I don’t want us to play Michigan state again, can we put them in at 4?


PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS

You know what, fuck it I’m cool with it


BackpackWalker

That's a disgusting statement. WHY PLAY THE FUCKING GAMES THEN!?!?!


Cheesy_OG

The question is who would bring in more TV revenue and I’m tired of nobody saying it


TeaEsKSU

Every year it's some new criteria with these fucks. Thank god this is the last year of this bullshit. Boo, do us all a favor and thow yourself in the fucking trash on the way out.


XeltDab

Not how that works you old fuck


jnelsen8

“We looked at the resumes and Florida State just didn’t have the types of quality losses like Alabama”


TheJURY15

FSU Quality Losses: NONE CFB Playoff Committee: Who is “NONE”? Must be some super small school we’ve never heard of. How embarrassing.


BaltimoreBadger23

r/technicallythetruth


udubdavid

That's too subjective. The games on the field were played. Florida State won all of them.


MasterTolkien

Yeah, I’m skipping the playoffs this year. Not watching any of them because this CFP is a joke.


ApprehensiveDealer42

Why stop at FSU? If we are using that logic Georgia and Ohio state would probably be favored against every other team in the playoffs. So why not put them in over Washington and Texas? I don’t understand how you can only apply this on a one case basis.


Rickbox

College football goes: 1. SEC 2. Other power conferences 3. G5s


The_Pandalorian

I assume you're including the ACC in the G5s category


DweltElephant0

Gee, who would have thought that the only major sports post season format with no objective qualification criteria where everything is decided by 12 mouthpieces would have issues??


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Then why not put UGA in over Texas?


drinks2muchcoffee

2014 TCU and 2015 OSU say otherwise


skoducks

The committee bent the knee to Greg Sankey and ESPN


Velociman

"The questions we do ask from a coaching stand point is how much money will ESPN lose if we don't include an SEC team?"


largelawattorney

I can’t fucking wait for expansion. So done with these dipshits.


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Specialist_Gift8915

Basically, we should let Vegas set the playoff field based on who would be favored.


RiskAssessor

Nice to invent new standards whenever they are needed.


Fredly_

That's a rubric you apply as a tiebreaker to teams with the same record


onewildmeme

So you can cheat and be ranked #1. But if your 20 year old QB gets hurt you’re fucked.


UtzTheCrabChip

There's literally no argument you can make to justify Bama over FSU that you couldn't use to justify UGA over Washington


Jonjon428

Goalposts are moving like they are the Supreme Court


perspicacious_crumb

Obviously you want to play the Bama team that played Auburn.


ChicagoChelseaFan

It’s a fucking disgrace. Just say “we want to see the ratings and money not the merit” …


Insectshelf3

so they’re literally just picking based off vibes


a_qualified_expert

It's basically who recruits/portals the best team on paper now. Just Sim the games because they don't matter.


The_Pandalorian

Y'all laughed when Harbaugh said we were America's Team. Look at us now.


Dijohn17

Bro what kind of bullshit reasoning


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MrPapajorgio

Fucking cowards


EliManningsPetDog

Bum


SilveryDeath

Abolish the committee.


Fonzie5

Why play the football games at all


Gardnersnake9

Cool, so why did Georgia and Ohio State get left out for Washington and Texas? Just no consistency to the logic.


mcaffrey81

By this logic, South Central Louisiana State University Mud Dogs never should have made it to the Bourbon Bowl without their star player.


madden_tron

Stares in 2015 Ohio State


TigerTerrier

Okay then by this logic put georgia in and take out texas or washington


OhioUBobcats

Oh shut the fuck up you do what ESPN tells you to do, no more no less, and everyone fucking knows it.


[deleted]

Unpopular, but did anyone want to see that FSU defense? I know it's all about the QB, but that defense looked really gnarly. I wouldn't want to go against that D.


seaxvereign

Translation: We just wanted Bama in because they're Bama.


Due_Connection179

I understand why they did it tbh. Alabama pulling out hard fought wins vs juggernauts: USF, Arkansas, and Auburn prove they are a top 4 team. /s


SanchoVillaWokeKing

Texas has the worst loss.


your-mom--

Those who cannot do, pick


WoozyMaple

This is all Auburns fault


FEDORAS_4_SALE

FSU should just say fuck the sugar bowl and schedule a neutral site game with Liberty kick their shit in and claim a natty fuck those committee losers


Lueden

This is the stupidest argument in sports. \- Signed Michigan fan who wanted TCU last year


SillyPseudonym

That's funny because out of everyone who was in the mix I wanted Georgia or Ohio St the least.


IamGumpOtaku

CFP Committee 🤝 SCOTUS Make bullshit ruling, then create justification out of thin air


Col0nelBear

CFP wants that Bama and Texas rematch


VariousLawyerings

The questions I ask from a any stand point is I don't ask questions because Florida State had a perfect season and that's the end of the conversation.


batman_3

I'm no coach but I wouldn't want to face that FSU defense, that's for sure. It's stupid we'll forgive teams for having a bad defense but not for having a bad offense


BaltimoreBadger23

Why isn't the question: who got it done on a P5 schedule all year without exception and who didn't? Not like FSU filled out it's non con with patsies, it played two SEC teams.


WarEagle9

Also everyone just because we expand next year doesn’t mean the shit show ends. We will still have these fucks ranking and end up deciding the 12. There will still be more bullshit it will just move from the 4-6 spots to the 8-12 spots. I think we have to change how the teams are selected bring back the BCS ranking system.


jt_33

Fucking clown. I would guess teams don’t want to play the team that hasn’t lost a game in the field. But opinions win football games now I guess.