"CDC and Schloss are *swingers*! That's the only conceivable reason that Schloss would leave A&M for Texas. He missed that sweet, sweet CDC-d!"
Paraphrasing but not really exaggerating several comments from TexAgs.
Your Big Bertha drum was straight up our drum at one point. After we cancelled football, we didn't have any use for it, and a Texas alumnus ended up buying it from us.
True story- growing up, the family hatred for y’all was so blatantly apparent that my younger sister, maybe 6-7 years old, asked my parents if “Satan” cheered for the longhorns. Obviously the answer was yes.
[Not even half.](https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/binturong#:~:text=Binturongs%20are%20one%20of%20two,mammals%2C%20including%20civets%20and%20fossas)
Having a sign that says play like a champion while proceeding to not play like a champion is a tradition that either ND stole from Oklahoma or ND and Oklahoma created independently
ND stole it from Oklahoma.
OU coach Bud Wilkinson first hung that sign on doorway out of the Sooners locker room in 1946-48. That is well-documented, in newspaper articles and photographs, including a story in The Oklahoma Daily in 1957.
In 1986, the year after he arrived at Notre Dame, Lou Holtz hung the sign in the locker room stairwell. When told that OU had the sign hanging in their facility for several decades, Holtz claimed that ND actually “had it first,” because he saw it once in an old book. He could not remember anything else about the book, nor its title, nor ever produce a copy of it.
When OU challenged this, Holtz said it didn’t matter because ND “popularized it.” In 2021, a company named Play Like A Champion Today LLC (PLACT) announced it had acquired the trademark to the phrase and had entered into a five-year licensing agreement with Notre Dame.
The ownership group behind PLACT is headed by Holtz with a group of investors including some of his former players.
Asked about this, Holtz said, “So, yeah, I'm not worried about that. We got the [trademark] to it now, and we'll move on." Then he insulted OU by saying, “The way they have been playing lately, they should slap their sign TWICE before taking the field.”
Lou Holtz is kind of a dick.
Bud Wilkinson got it from Minnesota coach Bernie Bierman.
Lou Holtz, who claimed to have seen the sign in an old book, put it up at Notre Dame... after he spent time coaching at Minnesota.
Which might make sense, except he never claimed he got it from Minnesota. He claimed it was a Notre Dame tradition he was reviving: “The idea, he said, came from a book on Notre Dame history he had checked out from the university library over the winter break [the first year he arrived at Notre Dame] in hopes of learning as much as he could about the school's proud tradition. He saw a photo featuring the sign, which was no longer hanging in the stadium.”
Tech started playing Neck after LSU was banned from playing it.
I remember a rumor at the time that the band directors were friends and the LSU director sent the sheet music to the Tech director.
ASU used to copy Texas Tech with the tortilla throwing, but the school banned tortillas because the school claimed that the tortillas looked similar to penalty flags. And they have been very strict on the tortilla ban.
The stadium doesn't have a Mexican Food stand. The stands around the stadium sell burgers, cheesesteaks, gyros, and BBQ, but no Mexican food.
My gf is penn stater and we visited a friend, who gave us a tour of Texas a&m. She said, it's weird and creepy how people are so into a school.
And I'm all like, YEAH LIKE PENN STATE???
she's all like, yeah but for us it's different because we're number 1.
In State College, I would routinely be harassed by people thinking my OU shirt meant Ohio State. People would say "I fucking HATE Ohio" and I just ask, "what did the Bobcats ever do to you???"
Those people are idiots for not recognizing the differences between logos, for sure. But idk, wearing an opposing school's colors on another school's campus (and said campus also despises those colors) is asking for heckling lol.
U¢LA plays our fight song. Literally the exact same song/sheet music. They play one part slightly differently, and call it Sons of Westwood, but it's the same notes for the band. They also copied our mascot and blue and gold color scheme, with slight modifications.
In fact the band leader’s symbol to play Rammer Jammer is to swing his/her arm in an O because when the cheer first started they called it the “Ole Miss cheer”
A Bama grad once put it to me like this, “we hate Auburn bc we have to, but we hate Tennessee bc we want to.” And honestly it’s resonated with me ever since.
It was pretty funny hearing all the osu fans justify that game as a meaningless bowl game after spending a decade mocking Michigan for losing meaningless bowl games
Oklahoma is a minimum of 3 different goegraphic areas at the same time. North-central Oklahoma is really plains and Kansas-y. Panhandle is about as remote as the Texas panhandle, southwest and south-central are very much like those parts of Texas that they border. Northeast and east-central are both like the parts of Missouri and Arkansas that they border. And southeast Oklahoma is a lot like east Texas.
So if you ask is Oklahoma in the southwest, the answer is not really, but also kind of yes.
Then you’ll find people who think Ok is The South. I grew up in SW OK, but have been all over the state. I’ve also visited and driven through The South. OK is not The South.
So far nobody has copied making up a completely fictitious academic department, complete with no show classes and write in exams, so unc still has that going for it
Houston adopted the Cougar as their mascot because a PE instructor at the university who coached the first volunteer football team on campus (years before NCAA affiliation) used to coach at Washington State
Our junior campus, in Westwood, took our fight song as their own. They also use a version of our blue and gold. Georgia Tech poached “Stanford Jonah” as their “up with the white and gold”.
The worst part is that Pitt, WVU, and Penn State all use it. They need to come to a 3 school agreement to never play it and all pick something more unique.
I wouldn’t say different sense but more a better sense. i also will say I was at the notre dame vs Pitt game last year and used the song accordingly at the tailgate.
Baylor and Missouri have some interesting overlaps. As far as I know, all of these are coincidences rather than copies.
Both schools claim the oldest collegiate homecoming, and you can split hairs to defend either school's claim. Baylor's first event was in 1909, but we didn't repeat until 1915. Mizzou started in 1910 and repeated in 1911, thus establishing an older homecoming *tradition* as opposed to a one-off event.
Both schools revere their old columns. Baylor has a set of four columns in Independence, Texas, the largest ruins from its original campus, while Mizzou has six columns from the original main building in a quad next to the current administrative building, Jesse Hall.
Speaking of Jesse, the domes of Jesse and Pat Neff Hall are strikingly similar to one another, though Pat Neff's is gold and Jesse's galena black.
The guy who brought the Tomahawk Chop to Kansas City, Al Sergel, was a Florida State alum. Its less of a ripoff and more a tradition that he brought over that carried on.
I’ve noticed a bunch of UW fans saying, “Go Dawgs” and in my research Georgia began using that phrase as far back as the 70s while U Dub isn’t on record saying it until the 90s.
Students referenced us as the U as early as 1912, which we can see from the “Utonian” yearbook that year. Miami wasn’t chartered as a university until 1925.
We actually took the Cougar mascot. I cannot remember what the connection was to Washington State, but thats where it came from. Also…handsign same as Arizona State.
Alabama’s marching band claiming ownership of Fleetwood Mac’s “Tusk” despite USC’s band being the actual band featured on the track’s original recording
Not certain of the history since every fanbase seems to have a different explanation but Auburn’s [Sailor Aubie logo](https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/61048051968/Auburn_Tigers/1945/Alternate_Logo) looks to have been copied from one of either Princeton, Pacific, LSU, or Missouri.
We let Bama copy our “roll (colored water)” saying.
For real though we might have started it, no one knows for sure when either began, both originated some time in the very early 1900s
We share a fight song with Georgia. Always been weird to me that the flagship school from the state Sherman taught a lesson plays the Battle Hymn of the Republic
Not a tradition per se, but I’ve been told we have a lot in common with Satan
It’s the horns
This is even funnier coming from an ASU fan.
I find Satan more likeable
See, that's how he gets ya.
If the longhorns were playing satan I'd grab a pitchfork
You certainly grabbed a pitchfork this off season
"CDC and Schloss are *swingers*! That's the only conceivable reason that Schloss would leave A&M for Texas. He missed that sweet, sweet CDC-d!" Paraphrasing but not really exaggerating several comments from TexAgs.
Well if it's on the Internet it must be true!
"OberKrieger, even if al-Qaeda played Texas I’d at least ask about their depth in the secondary." — my uncle
Your Big Bertha drum was straight up our drum at one point. After we cancelled football, we didn't have any use for it, and a Texas alumnus ended up buying it from us.
How did I not know this, that's pretty cool
This is a true story! And U of Chicago only charged us $1 to take it off their hands. Very cool of them!
Then we decided we needed a bigger drum and retired big Bertha
True story- growing up, the family hatred for y’all was so blatantly apparent that my younger sister, maybe 6-7 years old, asked my parents if “Satan” cheered for the longhorns. Obviously the answer was yes.
He doesn’t just cheer for us. He’s our most beloved alumnus.
Today I learned, Greg Abbott is a Texas alum
Well, you sure do. Horns and all.
No, no, that's a typo for Santa, because of all the joy we bring.
We stole Nebraska's identity
To be fair Barry Alvarez, who orchestrated that, was a former husker player . Should’ve made him sign a non compete
We stole it from the Chicago Bulls.
Alexa, play Sirius by Alan Parsons Project
We copied the horns down taunt to use on those dorks in Tampa.
Speaking of Tampa, the URL doesn't lie. [The Real UT](http://ut.edu)
What's funny is, we don't get remotely worked up about it...
Obligatory bring back War on I-4, cowards! ^(Pls 🥺)
We copied PSU cat growl and it's embarrassing. We stole move those chains from Army. Also embarrassing
To be fair basically every team with a big cat for a mascot uses that same cat growl
Hell we do that and our mascot is only like half cat.
[Not even half.](https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/binturong#:~:text=Binturongs%20are%20one%20of%20two,mammals%2C%20including%20civets%20and%20fossas)
[Only acceptable cat growl](https://youtu.be/kkOS7ypGhlc?si=qsmH-sBhCmPCXYHR)
Mizzou uses that same growl sound effect, and I believe k-State does as well.
I don't think that was their invention, I know the Florida Panthers also use it cause I could hear it when I watched the Stanley Cup Final
At least you didn’t copy Clemson’s gigantic flushing sound their scoreboard tiger makes.
It hasn’t done that in about a decade at this point
https://media.tenor.com/1Uvci0GxbEUAAAAM/superbad-jonah-hill.gif
We like to get super stoned like the Colorado fans
Also I think Purdue does shout
Posers
So does Cincy, but their claim to it is that the original artists of the song are from there
When a large percentage of the crowd isn’t even wearing Buffs gear, just Grateful Dead tye dye or just naked
Montana rolls the same way.
Yeah, we literally copy and pasted Iowa State's whole fucking stadium.
tbf it's an awesome stadium
I mean, credit where it's due. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Having a sign that says play like a champion while proceeding to not play like a champion is a tradition that either ND stole from Oklahoma or ND and Oklahoma created independently
ND stole it from Oklahoma. OU coach Bud Wilkinson first hung that sign on doorway out of the Sooners locker room in 1946-48. That is well-documented, in newspaper articles and photographs, including a story in The Oklahoma Daily in 1957. In 1986, the year after he arrived at Notre Dame, Lou Holtz hung the sign in the locker room stairwell. When told that OU had the sign hanging in their facility for several decades, Holtz claimed that ND actually “had it first,” because he saw it once in an old book. He could not remember anything else about the book, nor its title, nor ever produce a copy of it. When OU challenged this, Holtz said it didn’t matter because ND “popularized it.” In 2021, a company named Play Like A Champion Today LLC (PLACT) announced it had acquired the trademark to the phrase and had entered into a five-year licensing agreement with Notre Dame. The ownership group behind PLACT is headed by Holtz with a group of investors including some of his former players. Asked about this, Holtz said, “So, yeah, I'm not worried about that. We got the [trademark] to it now, and we'll move on." Then he insulted OU by saying, “The way they have been playing lately, they should slap their sign TWICE before taking the field.” Lou Holtz is kind of a dick.
>Lou Holtz is kind of a dick. So you're saying Ryan Day didn't go far enough and should have actually fought Lou Holtz?
To the death
Yes. Yes please...
Lou holtz would fit right in at a presidential debate
Oh god, he would! 😂😂😂
I’d take Holtz vs. Corso over the current options at this point. And make no mistake, they would still be terrible options.
Holtz was also the biggest cheater in college football. Then pretended to have morals when he got to Notre Dame.
Bud Wilkinson got it from Minnesota coach Bernie Bierman. Lou Holtz, who claimed to have seen the sign in an old book, put it up at Notre Dame... after he spent time coaching at Minnesota.
Which might make sense, except he never claimed he got it from Minnesota. He claimed it was a Notre Dame tradition he was reviving: “The idea, he said, came from a book on Notre Dame history he had checked out from the university library over the winter break [the first year he arrived at Notre Dame] in hopes of learning as much as he could about the school's proud tradition. He saw a photo featuring the sign, which was no longer hanging in the stadium.”
Tech started playing Neck after LSU was banned from playing it. I remember a rumor at the time that the band directors were friends and the LSU director sent the sheet music to the Tech director.
UTEP has been playing neck for as long as I can remember. I honestly didn’t know it was a LSU thing for the longest time.
It was an HBCU thing first. LSU presumably picked it up from city-mates Southern.
Southern "gifted" it to us.
ASU used to copy Texas Tech with the tortilla throwing, but the school banned tortillas because the school claimed that the tortillas looked similar to penalty flags. And they have been very strict on the tortilla ban. The stadium doesn't have a Mexican Food stand. The stands around the stadium sell burgers, cheesesteaks, gyros, and BBQ, but no Mexican food.
They just recently added Someburros to the concession stands
If it makes you feel better, they’re banned at our stadium too. But boots make a great hiding spot for shooters and projectiles.
I've been told Penn State is also cult-like.
My gf is penn stater and we visited a friend, who gave us a tour of Texas a&m. She said, it's weird and creepy how people are so into a school. And I'm all like, YEAH LIKE PENN STATE??? she's all like, yeah but for us it's different because we're number 1.
Sounds like she would have been a great Aggie. Shame really.
It’s why I can see how others in Texas think Aggies are “weird” but really they’re just doing their cool lil traditions
Not just Texas brother
Other than the cult of Joe Paterno, I haven’t heard that Penn State is anymore culty than Ohio State, and only a little less culty than Michigan.
In State College, I would routinely be harassed by people thinking my OU shirt meant Ohio State. People would say "I fucking HATE Ohio" and I just ask, "what did the Bobcats ever do to you???"
Those people are idiots for not recognizing the differences between logos, for sure. But idk, wearing an opposing school's colors on another school's campus (and said campus also despises those colors) is asking for heckling lol.
Literally everyone copied the turnover chain in various ways. The worst one by far was fsu’s turnover backpack.
It was a great idea. SMU’s turnover bottle service is the worst I recall seeing
No the Turnover Garbage can, that was the worse by far.
UNLV crushed it with the turnover slot machine though
If it’s unique to the school it’s cool, same with Oregon State and the turnover chainsaw.
Thats a cool gimmick, kinda like giving the defensive guys a lunch pail.
I understood what they were going for with “Secure the Bag”, but holy hell was it just awful.
Mizzou copied the “M-I-Z! Z-O-U!” chant after Ohio State’s “O-H! I-O!” after beating Ohio State at the Horeshoe in 1976.
Damn Missouri has history of beating Ohio State huh?
Something something scared of the block M
Both Pitt and TCU eat shit
And Baylor copies them?
No we ARE shit. Important distinction.
UCF I believe started doing Zombie Nation as well
Also the “We Are” between PSU and Marshall. Unsure who started it or if someone else did but I always remember that crossover
And university of richmond also has it it in the form of "WE ARE.... U R....." and i laugh every time
Hey, it’s a fun chant.
It sure is! Roll Spides!
USC started it, Penn State copied them
I think there are quite a few who do that now, but at least the bounce of our stadium adds a different flavor. 🤷
I thought everyone did Zombie Nation
U¢LA plays our fight song. Literally the exact same song/sheet music. They play one part slightly differently, and call it Sons of Westwood, but it's the same notes for the band. They also copied our mascot and blue and gold color scheme, with slight modifications.
I haven’t see the cents sign used like that before. Well done. Reminds me of U$C versus my US¢.
Every UC uses blue and gold
All copies of the OG UC
Alabama took inspiration for rammer jammer from our Hotty toddy. In return, I aspire to hate Tennessee as much as Alabama fans hate Tennessee.
In fact the band leader’s symbol to play Rammer Jammer is to swing his/her arm in an O because when the cheer first started they called it the “Ole Miss cheer”
A Bama grad once put it to me like this, “we hate Auburn bc we have to, but we hate Tennessee bc we want to.” And honestly it’s resonated with me ever since.
That’s how I feel about State and LSU.
Yoooo I just realized who you are! Love the shop! I live down the street from the place! Well sort of down the street, Mill Village.
Alabama stole the “Ole Miss cheer” from us. We stole the Walk of Champions from them.
I live in Tennessee, Alabama fans are too nice to Tennessee fans.
Nope. Not one thing. Everything Alabama has ever done is completely unique. *money please*
I read this in Mona Lisa Saperstien’s voice!
Even stole that smh
Winged helmets with Delaware
Both Michigan and Missouri have a block M and beat Ohio State.
We’ve also got a shared affinity for Mr. Brightside
It was pretty funny hearing all the osu fans justify that game as a meaningless bowl game after spending a decade mocking Michigan for losing meaningless bowl games
If it makes it feel better we don’t like u n thus love everything bad that happens to u…
goalposts shifting? you don’t say
Goalposts haven’t shifted, we’ve just swapped end zones ):
And Mr Brightside
Oklahoma copied Tar Heel Born, Tar Heel Bred.
Copied? We just stole it.
Tis a Land Thief tradition
Improved it, I'd say.
As well as the tune to Boola-Boola from Yale, making Oklahoma the Yale of the Southwest
Is Oklahoma in the Southwest? I always think of it as being in the Great Plains.
Oklahoma is a minimum of 3 different goegraphic areas at the same time. North-central Oklahoma is really plains and Kansas-y. Panhandle is about as remote as the Texas panhandle, southwest and south-central are very much like those parts of Texas that they border. Northeast and east-central are both like the parts of Missouri and Arkansas that they border. And southeast Oklahoma is a lot like east Texas. So if you ask is Oklahoma in the southwest, the answer is not really, but also kind of yes.
I was very much under the impression it depended on who you asked, where they were from, and what time of day it is.
Then you’ll find people who think Ok is The South. I grew up in SW OK, but have been all over the state. I’ve also visited and driven through The South. OK is not The South.
I’ve heard people describe Oklahoma as Midwest too
Oklahoma’s region is yes.
Oklahoma's geographical region is called "where people from Texas go to buy weed".
And gamble. There is a reason why the WinStar Casino is the largest casino in the country
So far nobody has copied making up a completely fictitious academic department, complete with no show classes and write in exams, so unc still has that going for it
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Ours would be separately from theirs if we put the Dixie fanfare back in.
There is debate over who got the “We Are” chant from whom.
My high school played “Hang On Sloppy” at the end of every 3rd quarter.
IIRC, an officially recognized state song of Ohio.
State song? That would just be crazy. It’s actually the official rock song of Ohio.
I hope it was Hang on SLOOPY!
We were the first ones to butt chug, though I don’t know if that has caught on.
I believe Wazzu is also very fond of Busch Light? WVU are riot bros 4 lyfe as well.
Wait… did you do Busch Light before us? I am honestly unaware of who came first here
No idea who came first. All I know is we both enjoy it.
Simultaneous, as you gaze in each others eyes.
*Cough* Kentucky *Cough* Checkerboard Endzones *Cough*
You should go see a doctor for that cough sir.
Alcoholism isn't a tradition, but Iowa and Wisconsin sure treat it that way.
Thought you were talking about the Navy flair for a second
The one I'm aware of is UTSA's Rowdy Rush is directly modeled after the Baylor Line
Tbf UTSA didn’t even have a football program until the Obama administration. I imagine it’s hard to organically come up with your own traditions.
Sometimes you just need to let them happen organically but I can understand copying a few of them
Houston adopted the Cougar as their mascot because a PE instructor at the university who coached the first volunteer football team on campus (years before NCAA affiliation) used to coach at Washington State
Our junior campus, in Westwood, took our fight song as their own. They also use a version of our blue and gold. Georgia Tech poached “Stanford Jonah” as their “up with the white and gold”.
Yeah but "Rambling Wreck from Georgia Tech" is the real REAL fight song just like how we have the Model A and Buzz as our mascots
I’m just now learning that it’s a Model A. That’s tight.
Im just going to assume a lot of other schools sing Sweet Caroline. I've never looked into it tbh but I'd be kinda surprised if only we sung it
The worst part is that Pitt, WVU, and Penn State all use it. They need to come to a 3 school agreement to never play it and all pick something more unique.
WVU uses it in a very, very different sense.
I wouldn’t say different sense but more a better sense. i also will say I was at the notre dame vs Pitt game last year and used the song accordingly at the tailgate.
Baylor and Missouri have some interesting overlaps. As far as I know, all of these are coincidences rather than copies. Both schools claim the oldest collegiate homecoming, and you can split hairs to defend either school's claim. Baylor's first event was in 1909, but we didn't repeat until 1915. Mizzou started in 1910 and repeated in 1911, thus establishing an older homecoming *tradition* as opposed to a one-off event. Both schools revere their old columns. Baylor has a set of four columns in Independence, Texas, the largest ruins from its original campus, while Mizzou has six columns from the original main building in a quad next to the current administrative building, Jesse Hall. Speaking of Jesse, the domes of Jesse and Pat Neff Hall are strikingly similar to one another, though Pat Neff's is gold and Jesse's galena black.
Braves and Chiefs ripped off FSU's warchant/tomahawk chop
The guy who brought the Tomahawk Chop to Kansas City, Al Sergel, was a Florida State alum. Its less of a ripoff and more a tradition that he brought over that carried on.
The same can be said about Deion and the Braves.
I believe the Chop in Atlanta actually predates Deion by a few years, but you may need to double check me on that.
You have the most Atlanta flair lol
Galatasaray also does the Tomahawk Chop in Turkey.
That’s fucking weird lol
The it’s great to be chant. We don’t know if Auburn or Florida started it. But everyone else copied.
I’ve noticed a bunch of UW fans saying, “Go Dawgs” and in my research Georgia began using that phrase as far back as the 70s while U Dub isn’t on record saying it until the 90s.
We are the original “The U” and I will die on this hill.
Aren't you The U U?
UwU
I don’t think any of us are necessarily against it, but “UU” is usually used by out-of-staters.
I’ve never heard UU, but U of U is acceptable
I don't disagree, I just want to see the proof
Students referenced us as the U as early as 1912, which we can see from the “Utonian” yearbook that year. Miami wasn’t chartered as a university until 1925.
Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are basically mirrors of each other Scruffy mascot with guns? Check Guns up hand signal? Check Horse and rider? Check
like a Zorro pistol pete
We actually took the Cougar mascot. I cannot remember what the connection was to Washington State, but thats where it came from. Also…handsign same as Arizona State.
Our old coach went down and became a coach/AD down your way
Purdue existing
Alabama’s marching band claiming ownership of Fleetwood Mac’s “Tusk” despite USC’s band being the actual band featured on the track’s original recording
Go Dawgs
Tiger Walk has been copied by many
I mean can one really lay claim to a bunch of fans standing there while our respective teams walk into the locker room?
According to Auburn, yes, according to literally anyone else, no.
Not certain of the history since every fanbase seems to have a different explanation but Auburn’s [Sailor Aubie logo](https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/61048051968/Auburn_Tigers/1945/Alternate_Logo) looks to have been copied from one of either Princeton, Pacific, LSU, or Missouri.
It’s a “rat hat” traditionally worn by freshmen. Some dude back in like the 40s made them for every school. Not sure who was first
They all stole it from Oxy
We let Bama copy our “roll (colored water)” saying. For real though we might have started it, no one knows for sure when either began, both originated some time in the very early 1900s
Auburn copying our hedges and fight song.
Ah Aggie stole the ring dunk thing (and probably lots of other stuff) from Army Academy.
WVU copied the wave to the children’s hospital from Iowa State I believe but who’s going to have a problem with that?
From Iowa, no buildings of note right next to our stadium
You could wave at the bridge
Anyone who says that one shouldn’t be stolen is kinda fucked in the head.
Not at all (shut up Texas Tech fans)
We share a fight song with Georgia. Always been weird to me that the flagship school from the state Sherman taught a lesson plays the Battle Hymn of the Republic
I feel like Alot of schools do the canon on kickoffsnand touch downs.
We have that stupid "gator chomp" when we're on defense. We aren't gators, there aren't any nearby, and it's some other school's thing. Wtf. Wsu ,btw.
The Houston Coogs are named after the Washington State Cougs
Apparently Texas also has a weird fondness for Slippery Rock.