We had some frank discussions around changing the name of some stats lists from master to something else. I think we settled on primary.
I get it but I also struggle sometimes with this. As the lead I try to ensure we do no harm and take it seriously.
The ship part is written in legislation so it gets a little trickier, thankfully everyone in the industry understands and I'd change the language if it did bother anyone
Lol your colour or origins has nothing to do with it mostly bcs even when women could travel on a ship they were not part of the crew unless of course your country allowed it ( china had a female pirate who os considered one of the greatest ever) but then you wouldnt be saying ahoy mateys...
It's easier to provide no greeting.
Stare blankly at people until they are uncomfortable enough to leave you alone, and hopefully they never come back.
Brothers, sisters and friends? I would not want to call some of the people I work with anything close to that. I'm sure they wouldn't identify as any of these either with me.
This was issued by PSAC- historically union members refer to one another as “brother” or “sister” in a statement of solidarity. I think it’s pretty much fallen out of favour.
Union members used to use the term Comrade prior to "brothers and sisters", might be a good time to reclaim this non-gendered and brief term, probably would be a bit more intimidating to management as well.
That's cringey but it's a legacy!
It reminds me of sometimes still getting an email that starts with "Gentlemen", where I think to myself "and I'm the woman unworthy of acknowledgement as per the CC"
At least "Children" is genderless (although I should probably google the etymology to make sure).
Well... I guess using y'all is about my best.
Our local champion for inclusivity used "Stormtroopers" as one of the "acceptable" terms...we work in law enforcement. You can imagine that one went over like a wet fart in church....
I can't even make this shit up.
This person has tried to out people by blatantly asking if they have a disability in front of their colleagues on multiple occasions. In addition to other incidents ....
Ew. Can PSAC relax with this brother and sister repertoire. It’s starting to feel real culty and gross.
Also brother and sister is gendered and not gender neutral. Douchebag is preferable. Anyone can be a douche bag.
Who comes up with this BS....
**edit to add* I have no problem with inclusiveness, however this reads like it was written by aliens trying to pretend to be human...
I’m just gonns go with « how about not sending general emails when not needed » I look at you, priority messages from the dub-minister, PSAC and others
The worst part of this is that you know this went through several meetings and working groups. People debated this and decided this was the best thing to publish.
It was more of a fantasy in my head - that is how I keep sane. 😊
'Guys' can bug me a little bit, depending on my mood. However, it is not nearly as bad as being included in an email that starts with "Gentlemen", though. It always floors me to see the "Gentlemen" email salutation occasionally in gov't emails. I look around and think, "well, I guess this doesn't apply to me?" oof.
Okay so is this where all the miserable Public Servants come to play or something?
I don't see anything wrong with the union suggesting inclusive language. Some of it might not be your cup of tea, that's cool - don't use it...but why tf are we making a mockery of inclusive language suggestions?
What am I not understanding that makes this hilarious to most?
Edit: you can downvote me all you like, but you're the fucking problem if your immediate reaction is to scoff at this. That's disgusting.
Inclusive language is good and important. The list in OP is so out-of-touch with how people talk that it looks like it was generated by an AI and then fed through google translate 15x.
It seems like the point is to avoid gendered terms like "guys", "he/she", etc., which is a good goal! But actual human beings have already been working on that or quite a long time and this list looks like the writer has literally thought about the concept for 10 minutes max.
Howdy "Footlong gobblers"
Wasn’t that your nickname in high school?
Sure was!
lmao I just choked on my coffee 😂
Speaking of footlong gobblers we had some baby turkeys out front today
But...bbbut i only gobble the half long sandwiches......
It’s all I can afford too!
Same here...i need a raise
I find that “Ahoy mates” works well.
Boats imply colonies.
Wait until they find out that the captain of the vessel is also called the master
We had some frank discussions around changing the name of some stats lists from master to something else. I think we settled on primary. I get it but I also struggle sometimes with this. As the lead I try to ensure we do no harm and take it seriously.
The ship part is written in legislation so it gets a little trickier, thankfully everyone in the industry understands and I'd change the language if it did bother anyone
We must from now on decolonize all staff greetings
I see you’re from ISC…
Nope!
"mates" is too sexual.
Avast ye scurvy dogs?
Not to mention doesnt include women who were often seen as bad luck to be part of the crew
As a woman of colour originally from a former British colony, can I say it?
Lol your colour or origins has nothing to do with it mostly bcs even when women could travel on a ship they were not part of the crew unless of course your country allowed it ( china had a female pirate who os considered one of the greatest ever) but then you wouldnt be saying ahoy mateys...
Ching Shih.
Yes!! Someone knows their pirates!!
This did start with me saying “Ahoy mates” …
Touche...but not many people know about her ..
When all you hear/read/see is famous white men, you remember those that are even remotely like you.
I do like ching shi....her bf/ hubby was killed by the navy so she made sure that they would piss their pants with her name...type of gf i want too
GREETINGS MEATBAGS
The whole idea of iterating different groups does seem dated and just filler. All-inclusive singular terms such as meatbags seem the way to go.
Until we're cyborgs and some of us start to take offence.
cyborgs are just bedazzled bags of meat.
who knows, some might already be taking offence bcs they have a nose piercing or something
Some of us are already cyborgs. Cochlear implants have been around for ages.
Will wearing braces and pacemakers count?
Greetings fellow Singularity
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE No, wait, that’s Highlanders. There can be multiple AI. GREETINGS!
Would the vegans back this one up?
GREETINGS PLANT-CONSUMING MEATBAGS
Now everyone can be at peace.
Greetings sweetbreaths and bloodmouths,
Hahaha the most inclusive greeting there is. I vote for this
How dare you dont consider and include my piercings?? I am frigging offended....
Can you start calling us Master as well? https://youtu.be/T3OycKjrVzo
I read that in Morbo’s voice.
GWAR was right on several things.
That term is offensive to handicapped. They are more than meat.
It's easier to provide no greeting. Stare blankly at people until they are uncomfortable enough to leave you alone, and hopefully they never come back.
Will you write this up in your hybrid work agreement?
Whatsup fuckers
Que ce passe-t-il, peuple de phoque ?
Hahahah
Salut la compagnie!!
http://lessimpsons.chez.com/sons/bande.wav
*grade 7 me laughs hysterically*
"Delegate at the mic, please state your point" seems kind of aggressive
If you’ve ever attended a PSAC convention, you’d know it’s necessary lol
Ditto PIPSC…
I'm using this at every meeting ever and no one can stop me
This needs to be used in many Teams meetings.
Language guidelines written by someone with no people skills. Perfect!
So it’s probably aggressive to go with “greetings, friends and foes”?
It's very soviet, isn't it? Before you get sent to the reeducation centre.
To gulag you go my friend
I was just about to say the same thing. Sounds so passive aggressive lol.
Imagine people wanting to be a girl and then being offended bcs u called them sister 😑
“How do you do, fellow kids?”
I'm not even 40 and I constantly feel like saying this to my Gen Z coworkers.
r/FellowKids
Brothers, sisters and friends? I would not want to call some of the people I work with anything close to that. I'm sure they wouldn't identify as any of these either with me.
How about "Brothers, sisters, and subway employees"?
The inclusive term is sandwich artist.
that’s not art, unless i’ve been totally oblivious of spinach minimalism
You can just shorten it to "sandwich enthusiasts": you know everyone is really going back for that fake chicken and wilted lettuce.
And comrades!
This was issued by PSAC- historically union members refer to one another as “brother” or “sister” in a statement of solidarity. I think it’s pretty much fallen out of favour.
Comrade?
North American unions moved towards "brothers" and "sisters" because "comrade" was associated with the Soviets/Communism.
How about just yelling, "Workers unite!", And waving your fist in the air?
Union members used to use the term Comrade prior to "brothers and sisters", might be a good time to reclaim this non-gendered and brief term, probably would be a bit more intimidating to management as well.
You will definitely catch the attention of people who watched the wall fall lol. But hey why not?
Followed by “no gods, no masters!”
Followed with "no war but class war".
United we bargain, divided we beg
But our team is so close, we’re like a FAMILY!
Ugh, the biggest red flag ever, with respect to employers.
I believe this is in reference to our union brothers and sisters, with the friends being those who don't identify as the first two choices.
I know in the legal field, calling someone "my friend" always feels like a slight against someone.
That makes me laugh too. Ridiculous!
Brother, get the heavy flamer
Union members refer to each as brother or sister.
Yo, Bro!
“YO, WHATS UP?”
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That's cringey but it's a legacy! It reminds me of sometimes still getting an email that starts with "Gentlemen", where I think to myself "and I'm the woman unworthy of acknowledgement as per the CC" At least "Children" is genderless (although I should probably google the etymology to make sure).
Friends, Romans, countrymen...
Peasants and management
Dear comrades in the revolutionary struggle!
This is the one
Well... I guess using y'all is about my best. Our local champion for inclusivity used "Stormtroopers" as one of the "acceptable" terms...we work in law enforcement. You can imagine that one went over like a wet fart in church....
*Yikes*.
I can't even make this shit up. This person has tried to out people by blatantly asking if they have a disability in front of their colleagues on multiple occasions. In addition to other incidents ....
How about "hello everyone". Done.
"Hi all" also perfectly serviceable with the advantage of not making you sound like a cringe robot!
Fellow sentient beings, welcome, and I extend unto you much gramercy for your being in evidence this day.
He'y'all! Howdy!
Greetings fellow carbon-based lifeforms
But what if that’s how I greet my dog?
It's fine, it's inclusive whether greeting humans, bugs or dogs ;)
Hello children of Adam, offsprings of apes, seedlings of aliens!
"Accidents of nature"
Welcome, goth mommies and zaddies
Uh oh. I say "folks" **a lot**. Am I... lame..?
I've started to curb my use of "folks", due to it being co-opted by certain provincial politicians. ... I don't think you're lame.
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That might be pushing it depending on where you work
I say folks. Nothing wrong with it!
PSA that "sup fuckers" is gender neutral
"Friends & enemies"
We should just refer to each other by our PRIs. > Unit 123456789, state your business.
Hey, when you're a CAF recruit on Basic Training, you start by stating your service number before your rank and name...
True, though MOSID as well for reporting in. Would we replace that with position number??
Position number to replace MOSID. Classification and Level to replace Rank. It's perfect.
One of my directors says "Salut Gang, ok gang, good job gang, merci gang." Makes me cringe every time.
Lmao I’d actually find this super endearing with how cringey it is.
Next time flash a blood sign at him.
I love when francophones say this
Yeah I'd find it very weird if an anglophone said this but it's relatively common for francophones and doesn't register as odd to me. (Am an anglo).
How do you do, fellow youths!
Attention, peasants!
I refer to all my peers/colleagues as “fellow Subway patron.”
How about comrades?
Greetings, fellow humans, my brothers and sisters! 🤣
Howdy Comrades!
Greetings humans-I MEAN FELLOW HUMANS
F*ckers it is
Dear carbon based bipeds.
Can we get a 5-10% increase? That be nice, instead of paying PSAC to get their unpaid intern to publish shit like this
Ew. Can PSAC relax with this brother and sister repertoire. It’s starting to feel real culty and gross. Also brother and sister is gendered and not gender neutral. Douchebag is preferable. Anyone can be a douche bag.
Brothers and sisters I say, we have seen the light and that light is subway.
How are ya now?
You were out eating your subway the other dayyyyyyy…
Who comes up with this BS.... **edit to add* I have no problem with inclusiveness, however this reads like it was written by aliens trying to pretend to be human...
Seriously this reads like a bad AI generated post...
Hello/bonjour sandwich enthusiasts.
So Doug Ford was being inclusive by saying "Folks"..
It's nice to see a room full of liveware today.
I’m just gonns go with « how about not sending general emails when not needed » I look at you, priority messages from the dub-minister, PSAC and others
Hello comrades !
*Hello there*
Greetings commissioners, chief of staff, executive management, deputy senior management, regional management, assistant office management...oh and peasants.
What up dummies!
I’m partial to “hey bitches!” but I’d use this in a pinch.
The worst part of this is that you know this went through several meetings and working groups. People debated this and decided this was the best thing to publish.
Your union dues at work! Seriously, can we focus on slightly more pressing issues?
Ayoye
I prefer “hello ladies, gentlemen and peoplekind”.
*Welcome to Subway, how can I help you with your order?* /s
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I want to add this to my signature block! PseudotsugaGrrrl (she/her/guys) F\*ck, I might do it. Everyone is on holidays anyway.
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It was more of a fantasy in my head - that is how I keep sane. 😊 'Guys' can bug me a little bit, depending on my mood. However, it is not nearly as bad as being included in an email that starts with "Gentlemen", though. It always floors me to see the "Gentlemen" email salutation occasionally in gov't emails. I look around and think, "well, I guess this doesn't apply to me?" oof.
I use “hello folks” on a regular basis. It was a surprisingly easy shift of language.
Okay so is this where all the miserable Public Servants come to play or something? I don't see anything wrong with the union suggesting inclusive language. Some of it might not be your cup of tea, that's cool - don't use it...but why tf are we making a mockery of inclusive language suggestions? What am I not understanding that makes this hilarious to most? Edit: you can downvote me all you like, but you're the fucking problem if your immediate reaction is to scoff at this. That's disgusting.
Inclusive language is good and important. The list in OP is so out-of-touch with how people talk that it looks like it was generated by an AI and then fed through google translate 15x. It seems like the point is to avoid gendered terms like "guys", "he/she", etc., which is a good goal! But actual human beings have already been working on that or quite a long time and this list looks like the writer has literally thought about the concept for 10 minutes max.
Oh wow 🙄
heaven forbid people use gender inclusive terms.
Delegate at the mic, please learn what a joke is.
Bonjour les poussinots! Bonjour les poussinettes!
Greetings, comrades!
Hey, Peoplefolk!
Hello/Bonjour folks/les gens.
Someone in my office got their knickers in a knot over “folks”. 🙄 I just stick to “hey y’all”.
How about we just call each other " Majesty" that way we all feel special 🤣 or will the Queen be offended lol