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desar3641

I am carpenter and it is actually ok during the building process.


Waveridr85

Yep wood will dry


OneBigOleNick

My wood is always dry :[


Jimmack73

It’ll get drier as you get older...You’ll rename it Dusty.


[deleted]

Moon dust, really dry and a longshot


[deleted]

And there are old white dude foot prints on it...


sausagesandeggsand

That’s my fetish


PitterFuckingPatter

Long though


defiance211

Dusty Loads. The American Dream


ImperialKingdom

Thanks for the genuine laugh 😂


imhere_user

😟


Jimmack73

Yep.


spacetimejumpa_

Is that why my fathers name is Rusty?


Jimmack73

Probably. A foreshadowing of what was to come.


shoodBwurqin

Sounds like you should soak it in-cider


RedJohn04

Under rated comment.


BillyFrank75

I’m sorry to hear that.


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no-mad

Need moisture and air for wood to rot. remove one and it stops. That is why they can pull really old, perfect logs from underwater. There is no air so rot cant happen.


kmaffett1

"wood"


Old-Ad5268

This is perfectly fine, contractors of all fields always have to deal with weather, wood will dry up, it won’t be bad.


Mstonebranch

It can be a problem if the subfloor is low quality and it gets soaked. It will swell.


youvegotnail

It fun when you get to take the leaf blower to it to get the snow off everyday


00tool

Why is it then when water gets on drywall it causes black mold? Is it because of no air flow or heat?


goldenblacklocust

Air flow.


Aqualung1

Mold spores are everywhere. The wood used to build your house is fine as long as the wood stays dry. If you have a leak, the mold spores will awaken and begin to consume the wood. It’s a slow process.


RoxSteady247

Sunlight


Jadarken

It is not the best practise to let wood soak all the water for a long time but normally the problem is to continue the work without proper drying. Covering the building during building process depends on many things and local climate is also one of the key factors. There was a funded (partly by Stora Enso and ministry of Enviroment in Finland) project study (Wood city) in Jätkäsaari, Finland. They studied is there a possibility to build 8-story wood apartment building without a cover from weather. Also there are few other studies related to the project. There was mold in the joint areas and in top part of the building. So at least in Northern Europe climate it is not really good practise to let buildings soak all the weather during building process. There was many (mold in new buildings) cases in Finland near 2017 and after that many sites have been using weather covers in building projects. And building companies don't spend money on something they really don't need.


DoriansRain

Seattle enters the chat


seamus_mc

Hope they decked with advantech not cheap shit.


YeanlingMeteor1

Wood will dry, they should drill holes into the floor to drain the pools. But tyvek has a UV rating and if it sits out exposed in the sun for to long it can be damaged on a molecular level subsequently voiding any warranties on it leaking and actually does make it weaker. So unless they're putting a riff on that thing right away, the tyvek is on WAY too early. In my opinion obviously. I wouldn't call the city for "long exposure tyvek", but definitely no beuno.


Tayto79

But the wrapping is terrible. Should be pulled thigh?


Big-Hippo-9942

Was probably laying in a lumber yard somewhere getting rained on before it made it there


occamschevyblazer

Before that it was a tree getting rained on.


PrimateOnAPlanet

Psh that’s not where wood comes from. I doubt you even respect wood.


Advice2Anyone

Reminds me of that carpenter on that BBC segment where the guys bashing him for using wood and destroying the planet when there is perfectly good concrete


BagelsRTheHoleTruth

Here's the video. It's a good laugh https://www.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/qg4a9d/you_can_grow_concrete/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


InadequateCarp

Happens all the time, materials like subfloor can swell but isn't likely. If your floor is level it won't pool much, but you just drill a couple holes or push the water out.


Askaanaut

The first job I ever got paid with an actual check for I worked on log cabin that was going up, during the summer I was 11. I was tasked with sweeping up sawdust and keeping the cabin relatively free of debris, move around sheets of OSB, etc. Basically, clean until someone asked us to move something somewhere. It rained so much that summer. The thing that sucked the most was it only became a longer process the more was completed.


[deleted]

This is acceptable. Modern building materials are designed to withstand the construction process during inclement conditions. For example, OSB subfloor has a wax coating to resist water. The American Wood Association and American Wood Council has standards that material manufacturers adhere to for these situations.


LukeW0rm

Curious- does that mean it’s ok for a season? A few seasons? A year? There’s a house across the street from me that has a roof but the walls have had that plastic sheeting billowing off of them for at least 6 months. Worried the dude ran out of $ and the stuff is getting trashed


[deleted]

I don’t remember the exact timelines but about a year per code I think. Basically a full annual round of season. When I was framing we worked toward having it framed in 3 months with a roof and house wrap. I’ve seen a few over the years that went longer. Depending on location and weather after about the 2 year mark it was not salvageable.


LukeW0rm

Good to know. Thanks! I’ll start actually worrying in another year haha


l33tSpeak

Chances are that's exactly what's happened. The bank stopped paying out the progress payments from the loan and the contractor had to stop. It happens more than people realize, usually about the time it's time to start buying windows and doors.


daHavi

Tyvek has an exposure limit of 4 months, per the manufacturer


Ch1huahuaDaddy

Tell that to the Burnett Lofts in Fort Worth TX. 50%+ sat in Tyvek for 6-8 months or more. All the doors and window had mold remediation signs brand new building. Tyvek started coming off too. https://maps.app.goo.gl/RAwQYbgwN5rYKaLR7?g_st=ic


Nickydoodle4

Happens all the time. Not the best situation... But gotta do what you gotta do. If we waited for weather to have perfect builds then we would fall even further behind on our infrastructure


alcutts27

Are you kidding? Absolutely nothing would ever get built. I think my years I've maybe seen ten frames that only saw sunshine.


[deleted]

I think they aren’t kidding.


[deleted]

Didn’t you just echo what they said lol Are you kidding??? Can’t wait for perfect weather!


plays_with_wood

You gotta be kidding me!! You can't just wait around for perfect weather!


diffractionaction

You gotta be yanking my dick


[deleted]

Lol how is he getting upvotes? Maybe his are you kidding me is directed at OP? But even then OP is asking a genuine and understandable question


[deleted]

Whoever down voted this, your moms a hoe


Hinote21

Well now we have to downvote in retaliation


alcutts27

It was directed at op, I was agreeing.


[deleted]

I guess I can accept that but it was a bit unclear. Could’ve given you the benefit of the doubt - I will next time


thebeastdances

Exactly and its nothing a filterless shop vac can fix. Btw take the filter out made that mistake in my early early days got yelled at so hard by the boss.


Retrocloset

Take the filter out ? Good luck if you accidentally vacuum up some paper towels or a rag that vac is done


apex39

Lol, exactly! That's why they make filters that can get wet.


angrytimmy24

You are correct. They should have started by building the roof first then the walls and floors.


Careful_Egg_4618

Roof first, foundation last -- that's my motto.


disturbedkentuckian

Hell, that might be the only way for the foundations guys to actually get something square with the house. /s


BuzzINGUS

Facts


bigmikesblah

So building from the ground up was a lie this whole time????


[deleted]

Hahahah!! We might as well install the glass first, oh yeah let’s do all the roughing before the framing too


KIrkwillrule

I always do the electrical first so I can plug in my tools for the framing bits.


irrelephantIVXX

Genius


apex39

Not just genius... _pure_ genius.


KIrkwillrule

Corded framing nailers. ya know. Chefs kiss


apex39

Of course! No need for a $400 orange one!


KIrkwillrule

Without the /s I do love my paasload XD


apex39

Lol, not gonna lie, they are nice. As a non-pro, I use air.


[deleted]

Yeah temp power


KIrkwillrule

Nah, I put the final boxes and decora plates too. I'll put in the switches, but wait for the ceiling before I do the lights I think.


[deleted]

Hahahahahahahah :-) don’t for get to pre wire in mid air


Ghost986

You gotta do the paint first before anything else that way you don’t get overspray or drops as you start to build.


[deleted]

Of course, blueprints were issued on completion as well :-)


[deleted]

This is great!


8ofAll

I laughed harder at this than I should’ve. I mean how else are you going to know the size of the foundation if you haven’t set the roof and walls first?


danimalDE

This guy pole barns…


hangdogred

I guess that's the only way you know they'll match up right


Git_Off_Me_Lawn

How else are you supposed to know how tall the house is going to end up if you don't start at the top?


Myron896

The real trick is holding the shingles up while you get the sheeting under it.


EdwardBil

Lay them out in the sun and just let the tar tack glue them together. Then you can just fly it up like a kite. Pro move.


BickNickerson

I build my roof structures first, hire a helicopter to hover in place with it till I get the foundation and subfloor built, then I put a couple kickers up to hold the roof while I build the walls. I really like the wind blown look the chopper gives my hair, too. It’s expensive but totally worth it.


hangdogred

I don't believe you. OSHA says you have to wear a hard hat.


gmanfred

The roof floating means that you're protected under a structure, therefore you don't need a hard hat


BickNickerson

😂


seriouslyimfinetho

This is the way


Zad00108

😂


DangerHawk

I actually built a cabin like that once. My buddy and I were out in the middle of nowhere and the pitch of the roof was super steep. Didn't want to work off ladders so we built the whole roof assembly on the ground and then lifted it to height. Built the walls and then were able to lower the roof down. Did it all with jacks, bridging and a skid steer. I've seen people do the same on larger buildings too but they usually have a crane to help hoist assemblies into place.


Bcomplexity

Been having a long day and this definitely brightened things. Thx 😆


LaPyramideBastille

Chimney first you hack.


[deleted]

You ass


Vogt4Noah

Floors after the walls so the water can drain properly through floor joists.


Donmiggy143

One thing you can do to alleviate some hard core pooling of water is to sweep it off. Houses in framing get wet all the time and it's ok. But it is good to push the water off if it sits for too long.


-originalusername--

I usually just drill a hole in the subfloor where the low spot is


Atomic-Decay

Could be like my framers, they decided the drill on the ground floor was too far to go get, so just beat a whole through my ply with a hammer.


-originalusername--

I've done that too. It's subfloor. If you think that's bad you'd hate to see what the HVAC and plumbers do to it.


Atomic-Decay

I had no intention of having to deal with a 6” by 6” hole in my floor that was directly under my carpet. I would have preferred to pay the extra two minutes to go get a drill. HVAC guys don’t fuck with my floor in the middle of a bedroom.


-originalusername--

A 6x6 hole would have been made by the telehandler, a piece of lumber dropped from the trusses, but definitely not a hammer unless buddy was having a bad day. The claw of the hammer makes an inch diameter hole. If I go get the drill it's ⅝. Pretty much the same thing.


Atomic-Decay

Fair point.it did present like the claw of the hammer. Either way, in the grand scheme of things it was an annoyance, not an issue.


l33tSpeak

Just wait until he learns what a scab is and starts looking..


-originalusername--

If this sub saw what was actually going on day to day they would lose their fucking minds. Not enough down votes on the planet.


l33tSpeak

"Looks good from my house boss!"


sans_the_sleeper

Yes it is fine the water will allow the house to grow the 2nd story. Give it enough water and tlc and it should grow cedar siding in 3-4 months as well


__erk

Is this true? This seems true


FattyMcBlobicus

We prefer to not have that happen but what are you going to do?


CallMeHuckle

When it rains it rains


Small_Basket5158

Pours sometimes too.


GerryC

Snows in Canada too!


mandatory6

Sunday morning man


koalasarentferfuckin

Drill some holes in the deck lol


[deleted]

You’re not a Karen. To answer your question, everything you see is generally rated for 3-9 months exterior exposure. It’s fine.


[deleted]

If we waited for perfect weather, nothing would ever get done.


Hand-Driven

Keep walking


JrNichols5

If you’re using advantech subfloor then it’s fine. Otherwise the OSB will absorb the water and swell at the edges. Nothing a little sanding can’t fix, but also a pain.


Electronic_City6481

I’ve seen that house, on Karen street, right?


aequitssaint

That's right down the road from Youreanasshole Blvd, right?


Electronic_City6481

Nope, other side of town.


[deleted]

Intersection of Karen and Ken


Electronic_City6481

Karen and Ken don’t intersect anymore since Karen always has headaches. Road construction of course.


Tony0311

Whoever down voted this can lick poop


mygeorgeiscurious

This fuckin guy


aequitssaint

I really don't understand why so many people are being a dick about this. Most people know that water and wood shouldn't mix so for most people something like this would be concerning, especially if it's going to be your house. To the OP, it's not ideal because it is likely just OSB and the ends will swell, but it almost always ends up being fine. Likely the worst thing you'll have to worry about might be some bits of your floor becoming squeeky quicker. As long as it dries out completely, which it will, there is no concern over mold or anything like that.


TotalRuler1

You are making my ends swell


bigmattyc

All's swell that ends swell


aequitssaint

OoOoOoOo baby!!! You want me to miter your joint for you? Or maybe you prefer a half lap?


TotalRuler1

You can turn my dowel any day cowboy


luckystar246

I always wondered about this! Is the the same principle for snow? Or is that less of an issue because it remains frozen?


Lucybruin

Normal


49thDipper

All the houses you people are living in got wet during the frame up. Unless you are in Phoenix or Vegas. In which case your house was just poorly framed. I would much rather buy a soaking wet frame in Seattle than a sun twisted piece of shit in Phoenix.


SnooPeppers2417

PNW coast home builder here. We build from foundation up in the pouring wind and whipping rain a good majority of the year here.


huskers4444

Oh no, get over there with loads of rice quick! J/K it is fine


hunterbuilder

Technically yes it's OK. Not ideal but it happens all the time with no long-term issues.


[deleted]

They didn't call the weatherman and apply for a dry period to build that house, shame


SummerOfGeorgeSeven

Carpenter here for the last 16 years or so. Wood will dry. As long as they get a roof on it, dry it out before insulating and drywall etc, it will be just fine. I also like to use big tarps when I can. Makes it easier to dry that way if there’s less water mass obviously 👌 …and big propane heaters can make quicker work drying it as well! Tarp + Heater combo is a pro life tip indeed 😎


Ntl1991

I remember reading a heating book from the late 1800s. Pipe fitters wouldn’t get paid unless they could demonstrate the house would heat sufficiently in the winter. They had a chart with the minimum interior temp that needed to be achieved at a specific outdoor temp. If it was summer time when the heating system was going in, that meant getting the house up to over 125 degrees before the system was deemed to work acceptably. That would sure dry the wood out!


jsar16

It is not ideal but it happens.


rich6490

They should tear it down and start over. 😒😂


Billbad70

Part of the process. By the time the other trades show up, it will be bone dry under a good roof. OSB is short-term weatherproof, not like the particle board from Walmart furniture. 40 years of HVAC are all that matters.


Life-Manufacturer389

I'll usually drill a few holes in the subfloor to get rid of standing water. But as mentioned, all of this was in a lumber yard getting wet before it was here.


1Mn

Also the trees probably got rained on before they were cut down


33445delray

OSB stored outside?????


SnackPrince

What do you suggest they do about it?


bestpk

Happens a lot sometimes you just gotta build in the rain. But I’ve framed a 15,000 sq ft home and it rained the entire time. It’ll dry. If anything gets really messed up you can tell.


wasistlosbuddie

Carpenter as well, less then ideal, if we could control the weather we’d probably be doing something else more lucrative.


Jhelliot_62

Lol reminds of story my dad told me one time about a neighbor. They were re-roofing the house with tin, and it looked like it was about to rain. Wife asked the guys standing around if it would be ok for the tin to get wet.


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StPariah

I had a contractor one time setup a huge 80x80 tent over a building site that looked like a circus tent. The clients didn’t want their site to be affected by rain so they paid like 10k extra for this assurance that their wood wouldnt get wet… smh It doesn’t mater. Wood dries…


[deleted]

Never seen so much sarcasm lmfao


lanastab

Wood usually gets wet 🤣 This is normal - it will dry


[deleted]

Building code where I live specifies how many days the flooring (and other elements) can be exposed to the elements. It varies from 5 days to 90 days, but wall and flooring materials are on the longer end of those times.


tomlo1

8 weeks, after that things start really warping. But yes wood gets wet and then dries. Still before you plasterboard the walls you need to hit a < moisture content.


EdwardBil

In all seriousness, just ask the GC to check the moisture index before they insulate and all will be fine.


Plumber4Life84

Subfloor can be wet for X amount of days stated by the manufacturer.


MaplyGoodness

Not ideal, but it happens. It’s worse if you let the water pool for a prolonged period of time. It will generally cause the plywood to bubble and delaminate. Generally a good site will have the labourers sweep or squeegee any pooling water.


leothelion634

Not acceptable, houses should be built in factories in large pieces then delivered to the location and assembled, look up S2A


cambsinglespd

Would be nice to have a contractor weigh in. My understanding is that both sheathing and framing materials can withstand certain amounts of exposure to the elements, and are rated as such.


HowNowBrownCow68

Builder here! It's fine. Of course it's never ideal for lumber to get wet, but once it's fastened into place any warping should be minimal. Subfloor material such as Advantec can actually stay wet for months. It may swell slightly but it will not lose structural integrity. The goal is once you start framing, is to get dried in as quickly as possible. You can't control the weather so this is very normal during the construction process. Like you said, the materials can withstand a certain amount of exposure to the elements. Let me know if you have any other questions!


fourtonnemantis

This guy knows


Crackertron

I'm more concerned about this turning into a black mold factory.


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3-9 months


Suhksaikhan

I was under the impression we were mostly carpenters here


2Nasty4U

Well, wood comes from trees and trees grow outside. Hope this helps.


33445delray

Have you never seen OSB swell and not shrink back down when dried out?


RocMerc

Where I’m at some days the framers need to literally shovel the building out before they can start lol


Due_Environment_9606

Rain, ice, snow it happens. I drill a couple 1/2 holes in the subfloor during rainy season so it will actually drain off Advantech. Cheaper subfloor drains on its own.


keyserv

Not sure why they'd tyvek before the roof deck is on but eh, doesn't make much difference.


Ok-Confidence-2878

They probably put the Tyvek on while the wall was laying down.


keyserv

Good point.


song-and-danceman

The sheets on the walls are OSB but being vertical, water won’t pool or stay on for long so the chance of swelling is pretty minimal. The floors are plywood and can take being wet.


co_cor3000

Drill holes where the water is pooling.


barelyresponsive

This happened to my house. Once they got the windows and doors on it they put in a bunch of propane heaters and cranked them for a few days. There was no water at all after that.


gerbiju420

It will be fine. It’ll have plenty of time to dry out. Certain materials definitely stand up to rain better than others but that doesn’t mean they’ll just rot. I work in a fairly rainy coastal climate and we always get some rain before siding and roof goes up. No way to avoid it.


Affectionate_Aide_99

Why u leave the strip at the top.. bottom way easier to do later


MaplyGoodness

Depends on the build. Sometimes I’ll hang the sheathing down from the next floor system or gable truss to tie in a little better. I’d agree though, if they’re just going to fill in a strip, much easier to do it on the bottom


tehralph

Nope, not okay. If any piece of wood gets wet before wrap and roof is on, have to throw everything away and start again. That’s why housing is so expensive in Seattle.


jdtew

Water rains on trees


CrotteXpk

No its stupid as fuck…


Artrobull

Damn Americans really build houses thinner than British shed


Cutthroatflood

Just exposed yourself as a Karen. This is natural and common. They’ll return once the rain stops and take care of the couple puddles, or maybe not 🤷‍♂️ The building process involves steps so you can be assured that there’s not much damaged to be had by a couple days of rain if they haven’t put the sheathed roof up yet


joshua721

Good builders actually erect a rain cover over the entire site so that nothing gets wet. Hacks like this can't even stop some rain.


FeedMeStonks42069er

Reaaaaaaaly hope they’re using the Advantech and not shitty CDX sub floor, otherwise that floor is gonna look like the ocean


wooddoug

Yes. Thanks to Advantec


davebere42

This is bad for engineered lumber like PSLs and can actually void the warranty.


deanaoxo

No.


GDogg69

Is that header beam on the left cut with a filler piece on it??


Trees-Make-Love

I am carpenter and it is okay As a mycologists you are asking for the biggest and worse problem down the road.


goatmountainski

Just because it happens all the time doesn't mean it's ok. Osb can start breaking apart water can get into places that don't easily dry out causing mold. No big deal really but depending on how it's dealt with not great.


MurderMan2

If you want an excuse to tear the whole thing down


JadedbutFaded

It's not really ok. Check for mould before anything gets closed up.


ANullBob

it is ok because particle board structures are temporary anyways. heh wet mdf will dry ok... suuuuure it will.


Harkenfark

It rains on trees all the time…