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# P-Plate Exemptions in Australia by State/Territory
# New South Wales (NSW)
* *Vehicle Restrictions*: P1 and P2 drivers cannot drive high-performance vehicles with a power-to-tare mass ratio greater than 130 kW/tonne or with significant engine modifications.
* *Exemptions:* Exemptions may be granted for work purposes or other exceptional circumstances. Applicants must complete a form, attend a service center, and pay a fee. The exemption letter must be carried while driving the vehicle.
[Source 1](https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/driver-and-rider-licences/driver-licences/provisional-p1-and-p2-licence) [Source 2](https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/apply-high-performance-vehicle-exemption-provisional-p1-and-p2-drivers)
# Victoria
* *Vehicle Restrictions:* P1 and P2 drivers are restricted from driving vehicles with more than 130 kW per tonne or those with performance-enhancing modifications.
* *Exemptions:* Exemptions can be granted mainly for work purposes or if there is a hardship. Drivers must apply and demonstrate the necessity for the exemption.
[Source 1](https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/your-ps/get-your-ps) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/)
# Queensland
* *Vehicle Restrictions:* For vehicles made after January 1, 2010, the limit is 130 kW per tonne. For older vehicles, restrictions apply to those with eight or more cylinders, turbo or supercharged engines (except diesels), or engines with more than 210 kW.
* *Exemptions:* Available for work, family circumstances, medical purposes, or severe hardship.
[Source 1](https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/licensing/getting/pplates) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/)
# South Australia
* *Vehicle Restrictions:* Similar to Queensland, with a 130 kW per tonne limit for newer vehicles and restrictions on high-powered and modified vehicles.
* *Exemptions:* Granted for genuine needs, primarily work-related. Applications based on convenience are not considered.
[Source 1](https://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/gls/p-platers/p1-licence) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/)
# Western Australia, Northern Territory, Australian Capital Territory, and Tasmania
* *Vehicle Restrictions:* There are no specific vehicle restrictions for P-Plate drivers in these regions.
[Source 1](https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/provisional-driver-s-licence.asp) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/)
# General Notes
* *Commonality:* Exemptions are generally granted for work-related reasons and in cases of hardship. Of note, work related exemptions are generally restricted to when you are on duty and at your place of work.
* *Application Process:* Typically involves filling out a form, providing supporting documents, and possibly attending an office or service center.
For the most accurate and detailed information, it's best to refer to the official transport authority websites of each state or territory.
# Best Things to Look for in a Car for New and Inexperienced Drivers
Buying a car for the first time can be both exciting and daunting, especially when you're on a tight budget. Here are some key things to look for to ensure you get the best value and a safe, reliable vehicle:
# 1. Safety Features
* Airbags: Ensure the car has multiple airbags (front and side).
* ABS (Anti-lock Braking System): Helps prevent skidding and maintain control during an emergency stop.
* ESC (Electronic Stability Control): Helps maintain control during sudden maneuvers.
* Crash Test Ratings: Check the car's safety ratings from reliable sources like ANCAP (Australasian New Car Assessment Program).
# 2. Reliability
* Dependable Brands: Research brands known for their reliability. Japanese brands like Toyota and Honda often have good reputations.
* Service History: Look for a car with a well-documented service history to ensure it has been well-maintained.
# 3. Fuel Efficiency
* Economical Engine: Smaller engines (e.g., 1.2 to 1.8 liters) are usually more fuel-efficient.
* Hybrid Options: If within budget, consider hybrid cars for better fuel economy.
# 4. Insurance Cost
* Insurance Groups: Some cars are cheaper to insure than others. Check which insurance group the car belongs to.
* Safety Features: Cars with better safety features often cost less to insure.
# 5. Cost of Ownership
* Maintenance Costs: Research the average maintenance costs for the car model. Some models are cheaper to service and repair.
* Availability of Parts: Ensure parts are readily available and affordable.
# 6. Age and Mileage
* Younger Cars: Aim for a car that is not too old (preferably less than 10 years).
* Moderate Mileage: Look for a car with moderate mileage. Too high might mean more wear and tear; too low might indicate long periods of inactivity.
# 7. Condition
* Mechanical Check: Have the car inspected by a trusted mechanic.
* No Rust or Damage: Avoid cars with significant rust or signs of past accidents.
# 8. Features
* Basic Comforts: Air conditioning, power steering, and comfortable seating can improve your driving experience.
* Technology: While not essential, features like Bluetooth connectivity and a decent sound system can be nice to have.
1. Resale Value
* Depreciation Rates: Some cars hold their value better than others, which can be important if you plan to sell the car in the future.
**Additional Tips:**
* Private vs. Dealer: Buying from a dealer may offer more consumer protection, but private sales can sometimes be cheaper.
* Negotiation: Don't be afraid to negotiate the price.
* Test Drive: Always take the car for a test drive to ensure it feels right and there are no obvious issues.
By considering these factors, you can make a more informed decision and find a car that is safe, reliable, and affordable. Happy car hunting!
# PPSR Checks
A PPSR (Personal Property Securities Register) check in Australia is a search conducted on a national online database that records security interests in personal property. Here’s an overview of what a PPSR check entails and why it is important:
What is a PPSR Check?
* Personal Property Securities Register (PPSR): The PPSR is a single national register where details of security interests in personal property can be recorded and searched. It is managed by the Australian Financial Security Authority (AFSA).
* Security Interests: These are interests in personal property that secure payment or the performance of an obligation. This can include cars, boats, machinery, and other types of personal property.
# Why is a PPSR Check Important?
1. Verifies Ownership and Security Interests:
* Check for Encumbrances: A PPSR check helps verify if a vehicle (or other personal property) has any outstanding debts or encumbrances. This ensures that the seller has the right to sell the vehicle and that the buyer won’t inherit someone else’s debt.
* **Avoid Repossession:** If you purchase a car that has a registered security interest, the lender could repossess the vehicle if the previous owner defaults on the loan.2. **Identifies Theft:**
* **Stolen Property:** The PPSR can indicate if a vehicle has been reported as stolen. Buying a stolen vehicle can result in legal issues and the loss of the purchased vehicle without compensation.
1. **Confirms Vehicle Details:**
* **Accurate Information:** A PPSR check provides detailed information about the vehicle, such as make, model, year, and VIN (Vehicle Identification Number). This helps verify that the details match those provided by the seller.
1. **Legal Protection:**
* **Consumer Protection:** Conducting a PPSR check offers legal protection to the buyer. It documents that the buyer took reasonable steps to ensure the vehicle was free of encumbrances, which can be useful in disputes.
1. **Informed Decision Making:**
* **Peace of Mind:** Knowing the full history and status of the vehicle allows buyers to make informed decisions, potentially avoiding costly mistakes.
* **Online Search:** You can perform a PPSR check online through the official PPSR website or through various third-party services. The process typically involves entering the VIN or serial number of the vehicle and paying a small fee.
* **Report Generation:** The PPSR will generate a report outlining any registered security interests, the status of the vehicle, and other relevant details.
* A PPSR check is a crucial step in the process of buying a used vehicle in Australia. It ensures that you are purchasing a vehicle free from financial encumbrances, not stolen, and accurately described, thereby protecting your investment and providing peace of mind.For more detailed information, you can visit the official [PPSR website](https://www.ppsr.gov.au/) or refer to [AFSA](https://www.afsa.gov.au/).
# Insurance
There are 3 main types of Insurance in Australia, they are:
1. Compulsory Third Party
2. Third Party Property
3. Comprehensive Insurance
**Compulsory Third Party**
CTP insurance, also known as "Green Slip" in NSW and "TAC" in Victoria, is mandatory in all states and territories. It covers costs associated with injuries or deaths caused to other people in an accident involving your vehicle.
It does not cover damage to your own vehicle, other people's vehicles, or property.
CTP is legally required to register your vehicle, ensuring that any injuries caused to third parties in an accident are covered.
**Third Party Property**
This insurance covers damage you cause to other people's property (e.g., their car or home) in an accident
It does not cover any damage to your own vehicle or injuries to yourself
Nah, just steeply raise the application fee, and make it so it can be refunded on the off chance it's a legitimate request that's granted.
With all that extra revenue maybe they can stop raising registration every year (lol no).
>I’m about 2 months away from turning 18
Irrelevant.
>can I still drive that car on my Ps if my parents are in the car or not?
Depends on your state. [In Victoria](https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/your-ps/prohibited-vehicles-for-p-plate-drivers/about-prohibited-vehicles) you can drive the car only if your parents are in the passenger seat. Otherwise no.
In other states, not at all.
In Queensland OP can get an exemption if they can prove that they have no alternative AND that they've chosen a lifestyle that relies on them driving.
But OP has said they have another car so that ain't gonna fly.
Fuck me please mods stop allowing the blatantly goofy questions. Mate you know you cannot drive the car without an exemption. Just because ya parents own it and own a business doesn’t mean you can do what ya want. You’re not insured when you drive your parents car. You need to apply for an exemption.
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Can we just have a sticky thread that's straight up says "No unless you absolutely need it as part of your job and/or you live in the middle of absolutely nowhere and you're only option is like a Supercharged V8 LandCruiser or something"?
You’ve kind of answered your own question here by saying it is “P Plate restricted”. What that means is that the owner of the vehicle has the cars insured so only certain people can drive them and this includes anyone on a P plate, so while you won’t get in “trouble” for driving it, if you have a crash/damage it/cause damage with it, you’re not covered by insurance, so you’re liable not only for the costs of repairing or replacing the car but also for any damage you cause to other cars or to private or public property. You could potentially be sued for millions of dollars in a worst-case scenario. Personally, I think your parents should clarify with their workplace if you’re allowed to drive the car at all. When I had a company car, nobody but me or a co-worker was allowed to drive the car. Not even a spouse or close relative was allowed to drive the car, but YMMV
TL;DR: no, you can’t drive it
Okay so I am currently allowed to drive the car, I wanted to know that as it is too powerful would I still be allowed to legally drive it if my parents are passengers, thank you and I do believe I have my answer from other people.
Being harsh on you people plays well with key voters here.
This isnt even the worst of the stupid rule young drivers have to put up with.
As an old cunt I feel sorry for them.
Hi! It looks like you've posted a question about P Plater regulations or car recommendations. ***YOU CAN MINIMISE THIS COMMENT BY TAPPING OR HOLDING ON MOBILE, OR CLICKING TO THE LEFT ON DESKTOP**** Here are a few common answers for P-Platers: # P-Plate Exemptions in Australia by State/Territory # New South Wales (NSW) * *Vehicle Restrictions*: P1 and P2 drivers cannot drive high-performance vehicles with a power-to-tare mass ratio greater than 130 kW/tonne or with significant engine modifications. * *Exemptions:* Exemptions may be granted for work purposes or other exceptional circumstances. Applicants must complete a form, attend a service center, and pay a fee. The exemption letter must be carried while driving the vehicle. [Source 1](https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/driver-and-rider-licences/driver-licences/provisional-p1-and-p2-licence) [Source 2](https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/apply-high-performance-vehicle-exemption-provisional-p1-and-p2-drivers) # Victoria * *Vehicle Restrictions:* P1 and P2 drivers are restricted from driving vehicles with more than 130 kW per tonne or those with performance-enhancing modifications. * *Exemptions:* Exemptions can be granted mainly for work purposes or if there is a hardship. Drivers must apply and demonstrate the necessity for the exemption. [Source 1](https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/your-ps/get-your-ps) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/) # Queensland * *Vehicle Restrictions:* For vehicles made after January 1, 2010, the limit is 130 kW per tonne. For older vehicles, restrictions apply to those with eight or more cylinders, turbo or supercharged engines (except diesels), or engines with more than 210 kW. * *Exemptions:* Available for work, family circumstances, medical purposes, or severe hardship. [Source 1](https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/licensing/getting/pplates) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/) # South Australia * *Vehicle Restrictions:* Similar to Queensland, with a 130 kW per tonne limit for newer vehicles and restrictions on high-powered and modified vehicles. * *Exemptions:* Granted for genuine needs, primarily work-related. Applications based on convenience are not considered. [Source 1](https://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/gls/p-platers/p1-licence) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/) # Western Australia, Northern Territory, Australian Capital Territory, and Tasmania * *Vehicle Restrictions:* There are no specific vehicle restrictions for P-Plate drivers in these regions. [Source 1](https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/provisional-driver-s-licence.asp) [Source 2](https://www.drive.com.au/news/p-plate-restrictions-australia/) # General Notes * *Commonality:* Exemptions are generally granted for work-related reasons and in cases of hardship. Of note, work related exemptions are generally restricted to when you are on duty and at your place of work. * *Application Process:* Typically involves filling out a form, providing supporting documents, and possibly attending an office or service center. For the most accurate and detailed information, it's best to refer to the official transport authority websites of each state or territory. # Best Things to Look for in a Car for New and Inexperienced Drivers Buying a car for the first time can be both exciting and daunting, especially when you're on a tight budget. Here are some key things to look for to ensure you get the best value and a safe, reliable vehicle: # 1. Safety Features * Airbags: Ensure the car has multiple airbags (front and side). * ABS (Anti-lock Braking System): Helps prevent skidding and maintain control during an emergency stop. * ESC (Electronic Stability Control): Helps maintain control during sudden maneuvers. * Crash Test Ratings: Check the car's safety ratings from reliable sources like ANCAP (Australasian New Car Assessment Program). # 2. Reliability * Dependable Brands: Research brands known for their reliability. Japanese brands like Toyota and Honda often have good reputations. * Service History: Look for a car with a well-documented service history to ensure it has been well-maintained. # 3. Fuel Efficiency * Economical Engine: Smaller engines (e.g., 1.2 to 1.8 liters) are usually more fuel-efficient. * Hybrid Options: If within budget, consider hybrid cars for better fuel economy. # 4. Insurance Cost * Insurance Groups: Some cars are cheaper to insure than others. Check which insurance group the car belongs to. * Safety Features: Cars with better safety features often cost less to insure. # 5. Cost of Ownership * Maintenance Costs: Research the average maintenance costs for the car model. Some models are cheaper to service and repair. * Availability of Parts: Ensure parts are readily available and affordable. # 6. Age and Mileage * Younger Cars: Aim for a car that is not too old (preferably less than 10 years). * Moderate Mileage: Look for a car with moderate mileage. Too high might mean more wear and tear; too low might indicate long periods of inactivity. # 7. Condition * Mechanical Check: Have the car inspected by a trusted mechanic. * No Rust or Damage: Avoid cars with significant rust or signs of past accidents. # 8. Features * Basic Comforts: Air conditioning, power steering, and comfortable seating can improve your driving experience. * Technology: While not essential, features like Bluetooth connectivity and a decent sound system can be nice to have. 1. Resale Value * Depreciation Rates: Some cars hold their value better than others, which can be important if you plan to sell the car in the future. **Additional Tips:** * Private vs. Dealer: Buying from a dealer may offer more consumer protection, but private sales can sometimes be cheaper. * Negotiation: Don't be afraid to negotiate the price. * Test Drive: Always take the car for a test drive to ensure it feels right and there are no obvious issues. By considering these factors, you can make a more informed decision and find a car that is safe, reliable, and affordable. Happy car hunting! # PPSR Checks A PPSR (Personal Property Securities Register) check in Australia is a search conducted on a national online database that records security interests in personal property. Here’s an overview of what a PPSR check entails and why it is important: What is a PPSR Check? * Personal Property Securities Register (PPSR): The PPSR is a single national register where details of security interests in personal property can be recorded and searched. It is managed by the Australian Financial Security Authority (AFSA). * Security Interests: These are interests in personal property that secure payment or the performance of an obligation. This can include cars, boats, machinery, and other types of personal property. # Why is a PPSR Check Important? 1. Verifies Ownership and Security Interests: * Check for Encumbrances: A PPSR check helps verify if a vehicle (or other personal property) has any outstanding debts or encumbrances. This ensures that the seller has the right to sell the vehicle and that the buyer won’t inherit someone else’s debt. * **Avoid Repossession:** If you purchase a car that has a registered security interest, the lender could repossess the vehicle if the previous owner defaults on the loan.2. **Identifies Theft:** * **Stolen Property:** The PPSR can indicate if a vehicle has been reported as stolen. Buying a stolen vehicle can result in legal issues and the loss of the purchased vehicle without compensation. 1. **Confirms Vehicle Details:** * **Accurate Information:** A PPSR check provides detailed information about the vehicle, such as make, model, year, and VIN (Vehicle Identification Number). This helps verify that the details match those provided by the seller. 1. **Legal Protection:** * **Consumer Protection:** Conducting a PPSR check offers legal protection to the buyer. It documents that the buyer took reasonable steps to ensure the vehicle was free of encumbrances, which can be useful in disputes. 1. **Informed Decision Making:** * **Peace of Mind:** Knowing the full history and status of the vehicle allows buyers to make informed decisions, potentially avoiding costly mistakes. * **Online Search:** You can perform a PPSR check online through the official PPSR website or through various third-party services. The process typically involves entering the VIN or serial number of the vehicle and paying a small fee. * **Report Generation:** The PPSR will generate a report outlining any registered security interests, the status of the vehicle, and other relevant details. * A PPSR check is a crucial step in the process of buying a used vehicle in Australia. It ensures that you are purchasing a vehicle free from financial encumbrances, not stolen, and accurately described, thereby protecting your investment and providing peace of mind.For more detailed information, you can visit the official [PPSR website](https://www.ppsr.gov.au/) or refer to [AFSA](https://www.afsa.gov.au/). # Insurance There are 3 main types of Insurance in Australia, they are: 1. Compulsory Third Party 2. Third Party Property 3. Comprehensive Insurance **Compulsory Third Party** CTP insurance, also known as "Green Slip" in NSW and "TAC" in Victoria, is mandatory in all states and territories. It covers costs associated with injuries or deaths caused to other people in an accident involving your vehicle. It does not cover damage to your own vehicle, other people's vehicles, or property. CTP is legally required to register your vehicle, ensuring that any injuries caused to third parties in an accident are covered. **Third Party Property** This insurance covers damage you cause to other people's property (e.g., their car or home) in an accident It does not cover any damage to your own vehicle or injuries to yourself
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Just rephrase the question as "As a P plater can I drive a P plate restricted car?". It might help you answer the question yourself
Eh given OP can drive it as a learner I get the question
Why though? As a learner, they aren't legally responsible, the supervisor is.
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Nah, just steeply raise the application fee, and make it so it can be refunded on the off chance it's a legitimate request that's granted. With all that extra revenue maybe they can stop raising registration every year (lol no).
Clogging the system with paperwork is hardly cause for a license suspension. I see worse crimes daily that go unpunished
Company vehicle would also indicate as a P plater you excluded from driving it as well under insurance policy no nope not a snow balls chance
I'm actually surprised the employer let's a learner drive it
>I’m about 2 months away from turning 18 Irrelevant. >can I still drive that car on my Ps if my parents are in the car or not? Depends on your state. [In Victoria](https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/your-ps/prohibited-vehicles-for-p-plate-drivers/about-prohibited-vehicles) you can drive the car only if your parents are in the passenger seat. Otherwise no. In other states, not at all.
In Queensland OP can get an exemption if they can prove that they have no alternative AND that they've chosen a lifestyle that relies on them driving. But OP has said they have another car so that ain't gonna fly.
What part of "restricted" is difficult to understand? No. You can't
because L platers which have a parent in the car are unrestricted
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Depends on the state big brain
Fuck me please mods stop allowing the blatantly goofy questions. Mate you know you cannot drive the car without an exemption. Just because ya parents own it and own a business doesn’t mean you can do what ya want. You’re not insured when you drive your parents car. You need to apply for an exemption.
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Can we just have a sticky thread that's straight up says "No unless you absolutely need it as part of your job and/or you live in the middle of absolutely nowhere and you're only option is like a Supercharged V8 LandCruiser or something"?
That's literally what the Automod is saying
If you're asking Reddit for an exemption, wrong place brother
Oh really?
If they are in the car Yes you can, at least in Victoria.
Thank you for being actually useful
You’ve kind of answered your own question here by saying it is “P Plate restricted”. What that means is that the owner of the vehicle has the cars insured so only certain people can drive them and this includes anyone on a P plate, so while you won’t get in “trouble” for driving it, if you have a crash/damage it/cause damage with it, you’re not covered by insurance, so you’re liable not only for the costs of repairing or replacing the car but also for any damage you cause to other cars or to private or public property. You could potentially be sued for millions of dollars in a worst-case scenario. Personally, I think your parents should clarify with their workplace if you’re allowed to drive the car at all. When I had a company car, nobody but me or a co-worker was allowed to drive the car. Not even a spouse or close relative was allowed to drive the car, but YMMV TL;DR: no, you can’t drive it
Okay so I am currently allowed to drive the car, I wanted to know that as it is too powerful would I still be allowed to legally drive it if my parents are passengers, thank you and I do believe I have my answer from other people.
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Being harsh on you people plays well with key voters here. This isnt even the worst of the stupid rule young drivers have to put up with. As an old cunt I feel sorry for them.
You can if you have a fully licensed driver sitting in the passenger seat acting as a supervisor
That depends on state
That’s true, in Victoria you are allowed to
Thank you, I appreciate it