No idea if we're not counting London, but I can tell you it's not Leeds. First do a pretty bad job with the buses, there aren't really any train stations in the suburbs, and the lack of a tram system is basically a local running joke.
Been trying on and off to get it going for years,should have been done in 90\`s before Leeds changed in a big way. There is some underground in Leeds but was blocked up loooong time ago.
Are you sure that Torchwood haven't taken it over. Just like they did with the Cardiff Underground?
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I've been here for uni for the last two and a half years. I like the place but the transport is the worst thing about it. Buses are just so hit and miss and it's a 40 minute walk into town to go anywhere on the train.
I remember standing at the stop as the 36 to Harrogate rolled up at 11pm, stuck my hand out and it just... Drove past me? It wasn't even in the right lane.
Had to pay £30 for a taxi home. Fuck TransDev, cost me twice the price of a normal ticket.
And despite not fixing public transport, they're making the city more and more hostile to cars. I'd love to take the train down to leeds and then hop on the bus to go wherever I need to go, but the bus station is a 20min walk from the train station. Maybe get a taxi? Oh, they banned taxis from the front entrance, and replaced it with a massive, useless sidewalk. No dropping off or picking up people there either. Or the surrounding roads since through traffic isn't allowed. So take the car right? The city centre is impossible to navigate full of surprise bus zones and one way roads. And the traffic is absolutely horrible during rush hour. At the end of the day I just say fuck it and don't visit.
In terms of buses PR3 is very efficient, PR1 is about as inefficient as it gets, no bus lanes back to Elland Road so you’re just sat in traffic with everyone happy enough to spaff £9 a day on parking in the centre
Absolutely Notts. They had a contactless system since 2000, the main bus company NCT (Nottingham City Transport) is publicly owned so there's reinvestment, and it's now got an alright tram network (20 miles, 50 stations, 2 lines).
To add to this, it’s ridiculously easy to get into the city on public transport from outside the city itself. Even in my village there’s the choice of a bus (every 20 minutes), or we can park up at one of the Park and Rides and get the tram in. I love it
Not sure if its under the same umbrella, but the Medilink between the hospitals and Queens Drive P&R is a godsend for antenatal appointments
Only* criticism of Notts is that virtually everything is via the city centre. If I want to go from my area to Mapperley as an example it is a bus/tram to the city then another bus out covering a fair amount of the same ground. First World problem I know, but I find it strangely irritating at times.
Relatively inexpensive too for a city of this size.
*Second minor complaint, although it doesn't affect me often. If you want to go outside the city area prices are vastly inflated. (if you discount the current £2 cap on fares).
I've never experienced but heard good things about Nottingham, Reading and Edinburgh's public transport networks.
From experience I felt that Manchester and Cardiff's networks were quite good but room for improvement especially in terms of rail travel.
Reading bus network is particularly good.
Great railway links and Reading has 5 stations now.
The town has grown and expanded a lot so there is a lot of congestion now (same as most places)
Park n Ride - 3 services from different areas assuming they're all active.
Would love a tram though
OK so when my better half was a student in Nottingham, the buses needed exact change or you couldn't ride. It used to drive my nuts, I ended up walking into city centre regularly because I didn't have an extra 21p or whatever.
Hopefully they've upgraded by now...
London buses are so, so far and away better than buses anywhere else in England.
Like, the tube, overground, and DLR are all great, and the rest of the country doesn't really have anything to compare to them.
But then you've still got these super regular, super frequent and relatively cheap buses!
So many Londoners don't realise how good the buses are compared to my experiences of buses living in Bristol and Newcastle.
A friend finally visited London after growing up in fuck nowhere North Carolina and now living just outside of NYC, and when I asked her what the she liked most about London she said the transport is reliable, the people are nice, and the city is clean.
All the things us Londoners bitch about.
We really have it much better than most places.
Yeah I think Manchester is probably right up there. Having a whole tram network like that is really impactful. Its a shame that Liverpool removed its original tram network - many of our roads were designed with specific space for tram lines to pass through, so they could've been a great mode of transport in modern day. Merseyrail is great for getting around the local area, there's lots of buses too and links out to wider areas.
Merseyrail is great but there are a few places in the city that aren't well served. Allerton, Toxteth, Mossley hill and smithdown for example. If you're in the north of the city it's great though.
Manchester definitely has Liverpool beat when it comes to transport infrastructure. Daft rivalries aside, it's a great city and I always enjoy visiting.
The Burnham (Boris) bikes are pretty good now too - can ride for a few miles and only costs <£2 - and the quality's high vs what we used to have - electric or cushy pedal with gears and good brakes, solid stuff
Yeah, I've spent a week in pretty much every major UK city and Manchester wins. Easy to understand metro with sensible ticketing that seems to run late into the night.
A place no one is mentioning that I found surprisingly good was Cornwall. Although not always super frequent the buses are all unified under Transport for Cornwall so you can buy a day ticket that is valid on all buses including the open top sightseeing ones, and there are several branch line trains.
As for bad, I live in Glasgow and it is a bit crap. The subway only serves a very small chunk of the city and opens late and shuts really early on Sundays. The buses are all different companies with no coherence. No river bus service despite the Clyde dividing the city in two. It really needs a bit of sorting out.
At peak times, the bus network crumbles. It is not uncommon for a route that is scheduled to run every 8 minutes to not see a bus for over an hour (yet still seeing the buses pass by you, empty, marked as "Not In Service" - back when they all had trackers, you could also see that these buses were the ones you were waiting for).
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How long ago was this?
I have been using the bus frequency in Manchester for about 4 years and this has been a regular occurrence particularly in the past 2.
Even more annoyingly, because an hour's worth of busses don't show up, the one that eventually does is usually filled to capacity and also doesn't stop. I've given up trying to catch the bus from 8-9am and 4-6pm.
Completely agree. And Oxford Road may be the busiest bus route in Europe or whatever moniker it gets but that doesn’t mean it’s good.
You wait at the bus stop at 5pm and every bus sails by with “BUS FULL” on the front by the time it reaches the uni. Or they are massively delayed and 5 come at once and there’s no space for the only bus you need to stop so it just leaves.
They really need a bus that is just a direct university to Fallowfield route, specifically at 8-9am and 4-6pm because they just don’t have the route capacity for the amount of students. I used to live in Northenden and only the 43 went there (or the 41 but who knows when that comes) but students would ram it full and I would end up not getting on a bus until 6. In the end it was usually quicker to walk to Fallowfield and get on the empty bus once all the students had left. I even just walked the whole 2h walk home a few times. In the end I literally moved house because of the amount of time I spent waiting on buses.
I hate it when multiple buses come at once. Sometimes I can see the first bus is rammed but the one behind it is relatively quiet. Yet if the 2nd bus sees that the 1st bus has already stopped (even if it isn't the same route) it often will blow right past the stop (even when there of plenty of space to park).
On the journey I make, one route is cheaper than the other so it ends up costing me more when the cheaper bus refuses to stop. I guess that's the reason it's quiter, can't be full of you don't bother to stop for passengers.
As a commuter in manchester, this is factually wrong (and fuck you for even suggesting it). Oxford Road is a busy bus route precisely because of the piss poor coverage of the tram.
The buses are dogshit, took me 5 hours to get home from work just before christmas, and 3 hours just last week. Those are extreme examples, but the buses are regularly late or missing. And those free buses are glorified minibuses that cover a very small area.
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The metro in theory should be amazing, it's a really comprehensive LRT for a relatively small city but it's just been run into the ground by poor management and chronic lack of funds. It's really sad and I hope things change soon!
It's before my time but my understanding is originally the Metro served as part of an integrated network. Before bus privatisation, you could get the bus from say... Killingworth to Four Lane Ends and then it would sync up with the Metro that would take you into town.
Hopefully when Metro's new trains roll out, it'll improve. And maybe if Manchester's Bee Network succeeds then it'll be a model for places like Tyneside and we'll see something that good again.
Glasgow? Sarcasm surely. The First buses are horrendously unreliable, there’s no trams/metro, and the subway network hasn’t been expanded since it was first built in 1896. The subway shuts at 6pm on a Sunday as well.
Glasgow!? It's horrendous here. Genuinely can't remember a recent week where I haven't had my commute disrupted by delays or cancellations.
On top of that, you'd be better off hitchhiking than relying on a First bus!
Sheffield seemed pretty great. Were well ahead of a lot of the country with trams. Haven't used it extensively though, so I couldn't tell you exactly.
Tangentially. It's not exactly public transport but I've never seen a bike lane network quite like Peterborough's. There's some seriously scenic routes for such a small place.
The trams in Sheffield are decent, they can get you to about 80% of places you want to go, and it's an easy hop on hop off system with the lines. If you don't have easy access to the trams though, the buses can be hit or miss, they've been getting progressively worse over the years (so I hear, I've not got a bus frequently since I passed my driving test in 2007).
I have heard stories of trams being cancelled and kicking everyone off partway due to issues on the roads or whether, but I've never experienced it myself.
Source: live in Sheffield, got the bus to college when I was young and get the tram into town these days now I live somewhere convenient for it.
Liverpool has got fairly good transport.
Rail connections from Liverpool Lime Street to Manchester, Leeds, London, York, Birmingham, Norwich, Wrexham, Newcastle, Blackpool, Preston, Wigan and more
Merseyrail trains run every 15 minutes and frequent bus routes too which cover a large portion of Liverpool region as a whole.
The 11 bus in Birmingham is by far the best service out there. At 6 am you have the lovely aroma of piss stained crackheads. It has entertainment at all hours. If you’ve ever wanted to MMA on a bus this is perfect for you. It travels past every landmark in Birmingham so if you’ve ever wanted to see this concrete jungle. Then hop right on
Concrete jungle? I think you need to go and visit other large cities because Birmingham has a lot more trees and parks. And nicer housing - Outside of London, who has areas like Bournville, Moseley, Moor Pool in Harborne, Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield, etc, etc. Stop doing down the city you live in. If you don’t like it, fuck off. Simple.
Edit: And if you have left and you’re still talking about somewhere you once lived like you’re pining after an old girlfriend, then that explains more about you than the city.
Anywhere within a reasonable radius of a city centre will generally have OK public transport, gradually gutted as they're run for profit not public.
Go rural and slightly outside that and it's shite.
Source: live 10 miles from Chester. 1 train every 45 minutes to Chester and you need to change in a random town. Bus there is also one a hour.
Liverpool is 13 miles away, same train but change a different station and 2 buses an hour, with an hour's journey.
I’d say Manchester because of the extensiveness of the tram network, and has a pretty big commuter rail system.
there are a lot of buses too, and when more of them go under public control, it should get better.
It also has a bike share scheme (if that counts).
It’s a sad state of affairs though, because any city outside of London is a joke compared to even a suburb of London when it comes to public transport.
Honestly would say London. I don't like how mazy some of the underground stations are, but the convenience of it is beyond anywhere else.
Manchester tram. Sheffields tram are fine, but the networks (especially latter) aren't widespread. Most places that rely solely on buses have issues with reliability, increasing costs and traffic.
Wish someone could go back in time to convince every council that getting rid of their tram networks would be a self-own, and the government that getting rid of the commuter rail stations on the network would be a mistake.
Southampton has been reliable for me personally. The buses are 99% reliable and the drivers are pleasant although they probably get a lot of crap from members of the public.
Truth is, most urban places you'll likely be fine. A lot of suburban places are well covered too. Villages get the shit end of the stick though as it's not economical to run buses there as they are subsidised. But in a lot of cases you'll get a limited service to them.
(Source : Have been a both town and rural public transport user for 30+ years)
Honestly I've had very little issues with Trentbarton busses (East Midlands). Compared to a lot of other services I've seen even their older busses are *relatively* well looked after
I’ve gotten to the point where I feel very anxious if I have to take a bus that isn’t Trentbarton😅 although I wish they never scrapped the mango cards.
My partner and I currently live in Hamburg but are looking to head back to the UK. He’s recently become disabled so reliable public transport is one of the most important things for us to choose somewhere to live… looks like we’re headed to Nottingham 😅
We've got Supertrams (none of those measly normal trams like in Manchester and Nottingham), and even a smashing hybrid TramTrain here in Sheffield, but they're the highlight in a pretty woeful public transport offering.
We've got loads of hills around steep river valleys which inherently limits transport routes. We've also only got one major train station, which is unusual for a major city. Combined with this, bus routes are reducing, and becoming more and more unreliable, meaning public transport isn't really much good here anymore.
On the other hand, you can get across the city centre by walking in about 10 minutes, and if you want to get to the city centre without driving you can either just roll down a hill, or float down a river, and you'll end up not far from it.
It's got to be London, right? You're never more than a couple minutes away from a tube stop and even when the tube isn't convenient (e.g. you would need to make multiple changes), the bus routes seem pretty good from my limited experience. The three major airports (Luton and Stanstead can GTFO, nobody cares) are all well connected to the centre.
Blackpools is pretty decent really, tram all the way down from Starr gate to fleetwood 5am to 11.15pm (hours journey) every 15 mins and the same in reverse. Well connected bus routes that can get you all the way to Preston all on the same day ticket. One well connected train station and another well I wish it was more often than once an hour as its the closer one to me. Wish it was a bit cheaper and the buses went into the industrial estate by the airport but otherwise can't complain too much.
I was pleasantly surprised by the bus system in Bath. I stayed in a village outside of the city and the surrounding areas were surprisingly well connected.
But if we’re being technical, the bus system in London is fabulous. And unless I am going from one end of the city to the other, I prefer the bus - on time and oftentimes you save time just by not having to go down to a platform.
People grumble about Manchester trams and buses, but compared to most other places they’re very convenient and quite regular. The tram line has bottlenecks which are quickly troublesome if a tram breaks down - but that could be said for any train line nationwide too.
Bradford.
I may be lying
I used to get the bus home after work, now I just walk home. I'm guaranteed to get home before 6pm.
So Bradford's bus network is the best for my fitness, as they never turn up.
Glasgow’s train system has the largest suburban rail network outside of London. The buses are absolute shite though and the subway could do with an expansion (its a circle).
No idea if we're not counting London, but I can tell you it's not Leeds. First do a pretty bad job with the buses, there aren't really any train stations in the suburbs, and the lack of a tram system is basically a local running joke.
I read somewhere that Leeds is the biggest city in Europe not to have a metro system.
Been trying on and off to get it going for years,should have been done in 90\`s before Leeds changed in a big way. There is some underground in Leeds but was blocked up loooong time ago.
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Leeds is such a jooooookeeee. Good luck being anywhere on time at peak times. Relying on the last bus to get you home? Don’t.
I've been here for uni for the last two and a half years. I like the place but the transport is the worst thing about it. Buses are just so hit and miss and it's a 40 minute walk into town to go anywhere on the train.
I remember standing at the stop as the 36 to Harrogate rolled up at 11pm, stuck my hand out and it just... Drove past me? It wasn't even in the right lane. Had to pay £30 for a taxi home. Fuck TransDev, cost me twice the price of a normal ticket.
Morley to Leeds centre used to have one train every two hours on a Sunday. It's now every hour. Technically better, still crap.
And despite not fixing public transport, they're making the city more and more hostile to cars. I'd love to take the train down to leeds and then hop on the bus to go wherever I need to go, but the bus station is a 20min walk from the train station. Maybe get a taxi? Oh, they banned taxis from the front entrance, and replaced it with a massive, useless sidewalk. No dropping off or picking up people there either. Or the surrounding roads since through traffic isn't allowed. So take the car right? The city centre is impossible to navigate full of surprise bus zones and one way roads. And the traffic is absolutely horrible during rush hour. At the end of the day I just say fuck it and don't visit.
Least the jokes run on time
In terms of buses PR3 is very efficient, PR1 is about as inefficient as it gets, no bus lanes back to Elland Road so you’re just sat in traffic with everyone happy enough to spaff £9 a day on parking in the centre
Notts notts notts. Even if you can just walk everywhere.
Absolutely Notts. They had a contactless system since 2000, the main bus company NCT (Nottingham City Transport) is publicly owned so there's reinvestment, and it's now got an alright tram network (20 miles, 50 stations, 2 lines).
To add to this, it’s ridiculously easy to get into the city on public transport from outside the city itself. Even in my village there’s the choice of a bus (every 20 minutes), or we can park up at one of the Park and Rides and get the tram in. I love it Not sure if its under the same umbrella, but the Medilink between the hospitals and Queens Drive P&R is a godsend for antenatal appointments
Only* criticism of Notts is that virtually everything is via the city centre. If I want to go from my area to Mapperley as an example it is a bus/tram to the city then another bus out covering a fair amount of the same ground. First World problem I know, but I find it strangely irritating at times. Relatively inexpensive too for a city of this size. *Second minor complaint, although it doesn't affect me often. If you want to go outside the city area prices are vastly inflated. (if you discount the current £2 cap on fares).
I've never experienced but heard good things about Nottingham, Reading and Edinburgh's public transport networks. From experience I felt that Manchester and Cardiff's networks were quite good but room for improvement especially in terms of rail travel.
Reading bus network is particularly good. Great railway links and Reading has 5 stations now. The town has grown and expanded a lot so there is a lot of congestion now (same as most places) Park n Ride - 3 services from different areas assuming they're all active. Would love a tram though
OK so when my better half was a student in Nottingham, the buses needed exact change or you couldn't ride. It used to drive my nuts, I ended up walking into city centre regularly because I didn't have an extra 21p or whatever. Hopefully they've upgraded by now...
> when When?
Outside of London tube? Still London, buses and overground are also top tier.
I will not stand for the DLR being omitted
Who could forget the all important cable car!
Also Thameslink, trams, Elizabeth Line etc. Top tier.
London buses are so, so far and away better than buses anywhere else in England. Like, the tube, overground, and DLR are all great, and the rest of the country doesn't really have anything to compare to them. But then you've still got these super regular, super frequent and relatively cheap buses! So many Londoners don't realise how good the buses are compared to my experiences of buses living in Bristol and Newcastle.
A friend finally visited London after growing up in fuck nowhere North Carolina and now living just outside of NYC, and when I asked her what the she liked most about London she said the transport is reliable, the people are nice, and the city is clean. All the things us Londoners bitch about. We really have it much better than most places.
I hear the new Superloop buses are really good as well!
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so, what can you do with a load of buses and a snooker cue?
Well that’s my earworm for the day.
They are genuinely great.
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Yeah I think Manchester is probably right up there. Having a whole tram network like that is really impactful. Its a shame that Liverpool removed its original tram network - many of our roads were designed with specific space for tram lines to pass through, so they could've been a great mode of transport in modern day. Merseyrail is great for getting around the local area, there's lots of buses too and links out to wider areas.
Merseyrail is great but there are a few places in the city that aren't well served. Allerton, Toxteth, Mossley hill and smithdown for example. If you're in the north of the city it's great though. Manchester definitely has Liverpool beat when it comes to transport infrastructure. Daft rivalries aside, it's a great city and I always enjoy visiting.
The Burnham (Boris) bikes are pretty good now too - can ride for a few miles and only costs <£2 - and the quality's high vs what we used to have - electric or cushy pedal with gears and good brakes, solid stuff
Yeh Manchester definitely, well the south anyway. Got a ton of buses, cycle lanes, trainline, and the tram is amazing.
Yeah, I've spent a week in pretty much every major UK city and Manchester wins. Easy to understand metro with sensible ticketing that seems to run late into the night. A place no one is mentioning that I found surprisingly good was Cornwall. Although not always super frequent the buses are all unified under Transport for Cornwall so you can buy a day ticket that is valid on all buses including the open top sightseeing ones, and there are several branch line trains. As for bad, I live in Glasgow and it is a bit crap. The subway only serves a very small chunk of the city and opens late and shuts really early on Sundays. The buses are all different companies with no coherence. No river bus service despite the Clyde dividing the city in two. It really needs a bit of sorting out.
Yes, Cornwall is really good, I was surprised how well-used even the rural routes are at night too.
At peak times, the bus network crumbles. It is not uncommon for a route that is scheduled to run every 8 minutes to not see a bus for over an hour (yet still seeing the buses pass by you, empty, marked as "Not In Service" - back when they all had trackers, you could also see that these buses were the ones you were waiting for).
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How long ago was this? I have been using the bus frequency in Manchester for about 4 years and this has been a regular occurrence particularly in the past 2. Even more annoyingly, because an hour's worth of busses don't show up, the one that eventually does is usually filled to capacity and also doesn't stop. I've given up trying to catch the bus from 8-9am and 4-6pm.
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Completely agree. And Oxford Road may be the busiest bus route in Europe or whatever moniker it gets but that doesn’t mean it’s good. You wait at the bus stop at 5pm and every bus sails by with “BUS FULL” on the front by the time it reaches the uni. Or they are massively delayed and 5 come at once and there’s no space for the only bus you need to stop so it just leaves. They really need a bus that is just a direct university to Fallowfield route, specifically at 8-9am and 4-6pm because they just don’t have the route capacity for the amount of students. I used to live in Northenden and only the 43 went there (or the 41 but who knows when that comes) but students would ram it full and I would end up not getting on a bus until 6. In the end it was usually quicker to walk to Fallowfield and get on the empty bus once all the students had left. I even just walked the whole 2h walk home a few times. In the end I literally moved house because of the amount of time I spent waiting on buses.
I hate it when multiple buses come at once. Sometimes I can see the first bus is rammed but the one behind it is relatively quiet. Yet if the 2nd bus sees that the 1st bus has already stopped (even if it isn't the same route) it often will blow right past the stop (even when there of plenty of space to park). On the journey I make, one route is cheaper than the other so it ends up costing me more when the cheaper bus refuses to stop. I guess that's the reason it's quiter, can't be full of you don't bother to stop for passengers.
As a commuter in manchester, this is factually wrong (and fuck you for even suggesting it). Oxford Road is a busy bus route precisely because of the piss poor coverage of the tram. The buses are dogshit, took me 5 hours to get home from work just before christmas, and 3 hours just last week. Those are extreme examples, but the buses are regularly late or missing. And those free buses are glorified minibuses that cover a very small area.
Where were you going to & from exactly? I can walk the entire length of the Oxford Road bus services in less than 3 hours, & see dozens of busses
Aye I'm really doubting the 5 hours thing. City centre to the edge of what you can still reasonably call Manchester is 4 hours walking
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I can't give an actual answer but anyone who answers Newcastle upon Tyne is lying
The metro in theory should be amazing, it's a really comprehensive LRT for a relatively small city but it's just been run into the ground by poor management and chronic lack of funds. It's really sad and I hope things change soon!
There was a time when it was great, now it’s basically unusable
It's before my time but my understanding is originally the Metro served as part of an integrated network. Before bus privatisation, you could get the bus from say... Killingworth to Four Lane Ends and then it would sync up with the Metro that would take you into town. Hopefully when Metro's new trains roll out, it'll improve. And maybe if Manchester's Bee Network succeeds then it'll be a model for places like Tyneside and we'll see something that good again.
Certainly no-one from Newcastle would claim that!
Metro apologises
You laffin’ on the metro?
Hey, more than you'll get out of GNE
Strong agree. Its completely shit.
Edinburgh. Lothian Buses are great. Their buses must have extra strong springs to deal with the potholes we have.
I wouldn't go that far. They're rarely on time and if you live outside of the centre your options are fairly limited.
Reading Buses have a chance at giving TfL a run for their money
Leeds obviously Can't be late/ shit if it doesn't exist.
It's criminal that a city the size of Leeds doesn't have any metro services.
Glasgow was always good when I visited, and Nottingham is also very good.
There are some dead spots in Nottingham, but yes, mostly it is really good.
Glasgow? Sarcasm surely. The First buses are horrendously unreliable, there’s no trams/metro, and the subway network hasn’t been expanded since it was first built in 1896. The subway shuts at 6pm on a Sunday as well.
It has been a few years since my last visit, I admit.
Glasgow is alright provided you aren’t planning on going anywhere after 10pm
Glasgow!? It's horrendous here. Genuinely can't remember a recent week where I haven't had my commute disrupted by delays or cancellations. On top of that, you'd be better off hitchhiking than relying on a First bus!
Edinburgh has been great
Edinburgh is the answer! Buses everywhere with a tap on card system. Trams that go fully west to east. Just missing better cycling infrastructure.
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We’ve had this for years. It’s literally undergoing an update to the hardware so hard to criticise it.
Sheffield seemed pretty great. Were well ahead of a lot of the country with trams. Haven't used it extensively though, so I couldn't tell you exactly. Tangentially. It's not exactly public transport but I've never seen a bike lane network quite like Peterborough's. There's some seriously scenic routes for such a small place.
The trams in Sheffield are decent, they can get you to about 80% of places you want to go, and it's an easy hop on hop off system with the lines. If you don't have easy access to the trams though, the buses can be hit or miss, they've been getting progressively worse over the years (so I hear, I've not got a bus frequently since I passed my driving test in 2007). I have heard stories of trams being cancelled and kicking everyone off partway due to issues on the roads or whether, but I've never experienced it myself. Source: live in Sheffield, got the bus to college when I was young and get the tram into town these days now I live somewhere convenient for it.
yeah, Sheffield is alright but Manchester and Nottingham are better
It's gone downhill though, bus funding cuts and a lot of tramline maintenance means that a LOT of services get cancelled at random.
Liverpool has got fairly good transport. Rail connections from Liverpool Lime Street to Manchester, Leeds, London, York, Birmingham, Norwich, Wrexham, Newcastle, Blackpool, Preston, Wigan and more Merseyrail trains run every 15 minutes and frequent bus routes too which cover a large portion of Liverpool region as a whole.
I've always found Reading to have a great bus system, plus great train links from the station.
The 11 bus in Birmingham is by far the best service out there. At 6 am you have the lovely aroma of piss stained crackheads. It has entertainment at all hours. If you’ve ever wanted to MMA on a bus this is perfect for you. It travels past every landmark in Birmingham so if you’ve ever wanted to see this concrete jungle. Then hop right on
Concrete jungle? I think you need to go and visit other large cities because Birmingham has a lot more trees and parks. And nicer housing - Outside of London, who has areas like Bournville, Moseley, Moor Pool in Harborne, Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield, etc, etc. Stop doing down the city you live in. If you don’t like it, fuck off. Simple. Edit: And if you have left and you’re still talking about somewhere you once lived like you’re pining after an old girlfriend, then that explains more about you than the city.
Bore off it was sarcasm
You sound like you’re talking about yourself you fat boring cunt. Sometimes keep out of conversations that don’t involve you directly. You sad old man
Hahahaha, nice one deleted account.
Edinburgh is ok to be fair, trams were not really needed but they're not bad either.
Anywhere within a reasonable radius of a city centre will generally have OK public transport, gradually gutted as they're run for profit not public. Go rural and slightly outside that and it's shite. Source: live 10 miles from Chester. 1 train every 45 minutes to Chester and you need to change in a random town. Bus there is also one a hour. Liverpool is 13 miles away, same train but change a different station and 2 buses an hour, with an hour's journey.
Birmingham was pretty good when I was there 2005-2008 Cheap and extensive train and bus networks Edit: extensive, not expensive 😴
I’d say Manchester because of the extensiveness of the tram network, and has a pretty big commuter rail system. there are a lot of buses too, and when more of them go under public control, it should get better. It also has a bike share scheme (if that counts). It’s a sad state of affairs though, because any city outside of London is a joke compared to even a suburb of London when it comes to public transport.
Outside of London I was pretty impressed with Glasgow buses and underground last week
Honestly would say London. I don't like how mazy some of the underground stations are, but the convenience of it is beyond anywhere else. Manchester tram. Sheffields tram are fine, but the networks (especially latter) aren't widespread. Most places that rely solely on buses have issues with reliability, increasing costs and traffic. Wish someone could go back in time to convince every council that getting rid of their tram networks would be a self-own, and the government that getting rid of the commuter rail stations on the network would be a mistake.
Sheffield is pretty good.
Anybody who lists anything in Wales is lying.
Southampton has been reliable for me personally. The buses are 99% reliable and the drivers are pleasant although they probably get a lot of crap from members of the public.
Truth is, most urban places you'll likely be fine. A lot of suburban places are well covered too. Villages get the shit end of the stick though as it's not economical to run buses there as they are subsidised. But in a lot of cases you'll get a limited service to them. (Source : Have been a both town and rural public transport user for 30+ years)
Isle of Wight
Honestly I've had very little issues with Trentbarton busses (East Midlands). Compared to a lot of other services I've seen even their older busses are *relatively* well looked after
I’ve gotten to the point where I feel very anxious if I have to take a bus that isn’t Trentbarton😅 although I wish they never scrapped the mango cards.
My partner and I currently live in Hamburg but are looking to head back to the UK. He’s recently become disabled so reliable public transport is one of the most important things for us to choose somewhere to live… looks like we’re headed to Nottingham 😅
Buses were pretty great in Swansea when I was at uni there. I've heard Sheffield has pretty great public transport too.
We've got Supertrams (none of those measly normal trams like in Manchester and Nottingham), and even a smashing hybrid TramTrain here in Sheffield, but they're the highlight in a pretty woeful public transport offering. We've got loads of hills around steep river valleys which inherently limits transport routes. We've also only got one major train station, which is unusual for a major city. Combined with this, bus routes are reducing, and becoming more and more unreliable, meaning public transport isn't really much good here anymore. On the other hand, you can get across the city centre by walking in about 10 minutes, and if you want to get to the city centre without driving you can either just roll down a hill, or float down a river, and you'll end up not far from it.
>We've also only got one major train station, which is unusual for a major city. With possibly the worst pickup area I've ever seen at any station.
Hey, the Leadmill is an institution. Oh wait, wrong kind of pickup...
It's got to be London, right? You're never more than a couple minutes away from a tube stop and even when the tube isn't convenient (e.g. you would need to make multiple changes), the bus routes seem pretty good from my limited experience. The three major airports (Luton and Stanstead can GTFO, nobody cares) are all well connected to the centre.
Greater London bus network.
I slag off Bournemouth a lot but the bus system is top tier
Edinburgh has very good public transport.
Not Carlisle. Our buses are awful. Always cancelled or late. Breaking down. I'm not sure you are going to get a positive answer.
Deffo not Dundee that's for sure
Blackpools is pretty decent really, tram all the way down from Starr gate to fleetwood 5am to 11.15pm (hours journey) every 15 mins and the same in reverse. Well connected bus routes that can get you all the way to Preston all on the same day ticket. One well connected train station and another well I wish it was more often than once an hour as its the closer one to me. Wish it was a bit cheaper and the buses went into the industrial estate by the airport but otherwise can't complain too much.
I was pleasantly surprised by the bus system in Bath. I stayed in a village outside of the city and the surrounding areas were surprisingly well connected. But if we’re being technical, the bus system in London is fabulous. And unless I am going from one end of the city to the other, I prefer the bus - on time and oftentimes you save time just by not having to go down to a platform.
Nobody said Cambridge?
Manchester is pretty good with the metrolink
People grumble about Manchester trams and buses, but compared to most other places they’re very convenient and quite regular. The tram line has bottlenecks which are quickly troublesome if a tram breaks down - but that could be said for any train line nationwide too.
Excluding London tube? London busses. And its not even close.
Bradford. I may be lying I used to get the bus home after work, now I just walk home. I'm guaranteed to get home before 6pm. So Bradford's bus network is the best for my fitness, as they never turn up.
People have said the same for Leeds which is weird given that it's a major city. Does Yorkshire just not believe in adequate public transport?
Long and short of it, no one wants to be a bus driver anymore. Will franchising work? Who knows?
Manchester tram is good, I’ve heard Glasgow’s train system ain’t bad.
Glasgow’s train system has the largest suburban rail network outside of London. The buses are absolute shite though and the subway could do with an expansion (its a circle).
Glasgow drops you off right in the middle of the city, so you can get straight to shopping
London. Not even close. The buses alone are better than most other places in the uk
London.
Outside of the London Tube? The London buses. Or the London rail network.
Its all subjective.
Are you new here?
Probably the bus station