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āIs the memory gone? Are you feeling numb?ā
"ALL THESE THOUGHTS INSIDE OF MY HE-EAD, BLINDING MY SIGHT IN A CURTAIN OF RE-ED, FRUS-TRA-TION, IS GETTING BIGGER, *BANG, BANG, BANG* , PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER!!!!"
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Yoru only wants one thing and itās fucking disgusting
Devils have been shown to have pretty human desires that outweighs their devil natures. Makima wants an equal relationship, pochita wants hugs... Maybe Yoru just wants to be loved? Or love somebody?
what I meant was that the development of the weird love story between Asa and Dennis was the real focus of 167, the cum shit was just an unhinged Fujimoto moment for the sake of it (goat).
Eh idk man, I think their love is gonna be on hiatus for now lol. Denji is completely shook and questioning everything in his head and Asa is so embarrassed and canāt face anyone so she is on the complete other side of the train carriage alone. My guess is they stop talking altogether until they have no other choice, and knowing Asa she will probably play it like nothing ever happened. The only chance I see at progress is if they are either forced by someone or something to talk about what happened in detail, or Denji snaps and puts her on the spot about what Yoru meant by 2 people and perhaps even questions if her feelings were real and hers. For now though I think itāll be silence and evasion on both of their ends and the relationship progress will be stalled.
YORUDENNERS
WE BEAT THE RĆPE ALLEGATIONS!
ASA LIKES DENJI! SHE MADE NO COMMENTS ABOUT NOT WANTING TO JERK HIM OFF OR KISS HIM! SHES MAD THAT YORU ACTED OUT THAT SHIT, NOTHING ELSE!
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
FUJIMOTO, I KNEEL. YOU DIDNT POV CHANGE, I KNEW YOU WOULDNT. LETS GOOOOOO
He made a binding vow to increase his brain activity just one time in exchange for dampening it for the rest of his life
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I donāt think so lmaoā¦did we read the same chapter? Bro seems even more depressed, but now heās also shocked and confused. It could be argued he was enjoying it up until Yoru said she didnāt like him but āthe other me doesā. But now bro just has no idea what is going on.
fine. We'll need somewhere empty. Somewhere where all the unwanted can go.
if only there was such a-
r/RisingOfTheShieldHero
I think we found our solution.
Eh. I wouldn't go that far. It's strange that Asa didn't express any anger over Yoru's treatment of Denji, since he was obviously under pressure and uncomfortable. And it's also weird that she expresses absolutely no concerns about what Yoru did to *her*; she just had her body pupeteered and used in a very intimate way. That's a pretty severe violation of bodily autonomy, but she's only concerned that Denji will see her as a skank for it? That's a surprisingly...old-fashioned way of looking at things for Chainsaw Man tbh.
Hmm, that's an interesting point. But the violation she and Denji experienced was severe enough that you think she'd feel at least *some* sort of way about it. Like, she's not a completely cold-hearted moron; she was devastated when her mother and cat died, and I don't think any of that was because she was worried about how other people see her. She also got mad at Yoru when she cut her hand or hit her or something IIRC.
So even if she hesitates, or struggles with the words, or doesn't want to admit it, I'd still have expected Asa to say something rather than nothing. But maybe she will in due time.
I feel we're forgetting that asa and denji are both developmentally fucked up teens. I cant say for sure what denji's thinking but asa thinking mostly about how denji views her makes sense to me. She likes denji, and what this chapter i feel implies, is that asa is fine with having sex with denji now because she didnt care that she did all that stuff with denji, she is just hesitant to initiate.
Now denji is probably feeling overwhelmed with the house burning down, nayuta, post nut clarity, yoru reveal, but he has never been the type to feel violated (at least from what we've seen). At least to him, this time is with a girl he likes so he is probably thinking more about how their relationship is going to continue (which is what asa is thinking as well).
I keep saying, they are the same person (Yoru and Asa). Just like Denji says he is a slave to his desires, Asa is also controlled by them, her desires personified in Yoru.
I mean they are in the 90s but yea, I agree that Asa needed more screentime for addressing the violation. Perhaps she wonāt address it about herself, but to Denji in a later chapter
Hopefully. That's the problem with waiting for weekly/biweekly chapter releases, you read them after waiting for days and days like "WHEN THE FUCK IS ANYTHING GOING TO HAPPEN" and then you go back and read them all at once and you're like "ohhhhhh..."
Exactly. She never communicated to yoru that she wanted that to happen:
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People also need to differentiate between consent and desire.
Totally agree. It's definitely a complicated topic.
My take on this is the key difference is that consent is a clear agreement to something happening, while desire is more about personal feelings. Someone can want something but not consent to it, and vice versa. It's a tricky line but crucial to understand. (I wouldn't want to become a puppet like Asa, where every decision, good or bad, is acted upon for me. Especially in this scenario where my body was forcibly used to jack off a dude).
On a side note, I love the fact that even though Makima has died, the theme about control is still super relevant in the story.
Yeah and honestly I feel like it's not really worth throwing my hat in the ring on whether this fictional teenage couple was consenting or not, because I don't want to have egg on my face either way about something like this in general.
Although, I'll still discuss it and stuff because this is a story I enjoy, and a story that I hope is written well from cover to cover, because it had such a strong first act. (The second act is also pretty strong but it's not done yet so I don't want to give final opinions on something that isn't final lol)
Yup, that's exactly what I meant. Also, the confusion between Denji and Asa/Yoru will likely be cleared up soon since Yoru said, "The other me like you." But it'll take time for him to figure it out because if someone said that to me, I would think theyāre crazy.
Well, Denji had multiple hints until now (personality change, she sometimes becomes bold and aggressive, now she's talking about fighting CSM, Nayuta warned him,...), but I'm still not sure about what Denji already guessed (so far he don't seems to really care, even if he probably feels it's weird).
>(so far he don't seems to really care, even if he probably feels it's weird).
Yup. This is the most important part here. It all depends on if he ever feels like choosing to investigate any further, and he never outright brings it up unless he's compelled by another to explain. This is, for example, exactly what happened at the end of part 1, where Kishibe asked him a question regarding Makima's scent and how she distinguishes between individuals (Denji was practically invisible to her):
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On a side note, we know that the other Horsemen of The Apocalypse don't have an interest in remembering faces, but I wonder if Yoru can finally see faces since she's now technically seeing through Asa's eyes. But I doubt that she can remember the faces because she doesn't care enough to remember, I guess.
He probably don't want to know neither, it would mean to give up on Asa, or even having to kill her... I still think he's kinda playing blind, refusing to see all the clues.
If things don't end-up too bad, I hope that Yoru will have something close to "Makima just wanted hugs and someone she considers as an equal". Maybe in the end, Yoru is seeking for love...
Well it's not consent by irl standards obv
What ppl mean with this not being SA is that asa wasn't 100% against it like some people claimed. They can eat shit now.
God it feels good to be right
I feel like people are using this debate as a genuine moral argument, when it's not that. I feel like it's okay to say that it is sexual assault if the author meant for it to be sexual assault and writes the story according to that. If it's not sexual assault according to the author, then he should write it according to it not being sexual assault.
I've said this in other comment sections, but it's all in how tatsuki fujimoto spins this. If he frames it as rape or SA, and writes denji and asa a happy ending where this event never comes up again, then it's a bit weird.
Instead it feels like people are tackling this with the level of vitriol that a real rape case would be tackled with by the public. It feels like people are treating this like real people are being hurt, and I feel like it's hurting the discourse.
I still don't think we have a clear-cut answer on whether Asa or Denji believes this is a rape, Because in universe, that's what it really comes down to. I'm still going to wait to claim for a certainty what this was, because I don't particularly like having egg on my face, especially when WHY I have egg on my face is up to the public's opinion on fictional sex between two high schoolers.
>Instead it feels like people are tackling this with the level of vitriol that a real rape case would be tackled with by the public. It feels like people are treating this like real people are being hurt, and I feel like it's hurting the discourse.
Honestly reddit moment. It's fiction, and Yoru is literally a villain. She's the representative of WAR. An area where sexual assault isn't uncommon.
People should stop being so triggered by it. Like yeah, I get it, you guys wanna show that you're anti-rapism, but so are we. So what's the point of using this energy on a fiction when you could use it irl? Some people really need to know the boundaries between fiction and real life.
I might get downvoted for this, but it's just attention seeking behaviour when people are literally protesting for fictional characters.
I mean, i see it as SA and Yoru crossed a line, but Yoru also literally wanted to kill Denji too, so idc. She's the War Devil, of course she's gonna do questionable things.
Acting like she has done nothing wrong is pretty weird if you ask me tho.
So many people headcanon retconned Asa and Denji into being their asexual trauma babies that they end up mad and confused when the story contradicts their fanfictions.
Like they genuinely believed Asa was going to have a panic attack throwing up pissing and shitting because Yoru gave Denji a tug. Or that when Asa said sex was gross it meant that she was extremely genophobic instead of just acting like a normal teenage girl.
Twitter/tumblr crowd needs to stop projecting their desires and insecurities onto manga characters.
Holy W
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thank you for this chapter fujimoto
>Asa Kujo loves Dennis! :3
YEAH!!!
Ma boi, let him be happy!
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Didnāt she basically soft confirm itās Asa here
Like a romantic comedy
> Denies it by saying it was heat of the moment
> Denies it again by saying someone else put her up to it
> Still kisses him again
Oh yeah Tsunru is back on the menu (w/ a side of cake)
Well we know theyāre forced to feel the same things, kinda, so it doesnāt really matter which is the one that likes Denji first since itāll result in them both feeling that way. They just have different personalities that make how they act on those feelings and rationalize them different. We see it in this chapter where Yoru rationalizes it as itās entirely Asaās feelings just bleeding into her and yet sheās blushing and went for another while Asa is mad that it may have made her look āeasyā to Denji in her mind without denying she also feels that way, sheās just mad that Yoru jumped it like that.
In the original japanese the kanji was ē“儳 chijo, which is closer to "molester" rather than slut.
yea basically asa thinks she assaulted him. the localizer is a fucking moron.
Yeah that makes a lot more sense I guess maybe they didnāt want to have the connotation be less rapey in a way to I guess make it a little more acceptable. Plus molester normally in the west especially I feel makes people think of Pedos more so than just sexual assault
I dont think it should have been changed to make it more acceptable because the wording has more weight than usual. It'd be different if a narrator said it was SA vs. Asa saying it was. the latter changes her character, her feelings on the matter, and how she views the situation.
I STILL DONT GET WHY CONSENT IS WRONG FOR YORU?? She's done the worst of things and she's literally a devil possessing a body, why would she even care about consent? I'm not saying it's good, just saying it just dosent make sense, character-wise, let's forget about the things she did and the fact she's the war devil, she still wouldn't care, she wants to do something, she does it. That's just how she is
I mean, self reflection is kinda the opposite of ābombasticā.
I was just looking for another chapter that makes social media lose its shit but Yoru just kinda wipes *it* off and moves on.
One big reminder: Denji is surprisingly good at paying attention to details, and there's no way what Yoru's said went over his head.
Like that time when Asa kept rambling about fishes and whatnot, Denji still listened and remembered what she talked about the starfishes when cooking them.
I think this mf has selective percebtion CAUSE WTF!! One time he's a sherlock homes, realizing that Makima only remembers pochita's smells and using that to kill her, while other times a fucking chaisaw grow in a bike that he's riding and bro finds it normal
Lmao I'm not even one of those people who believes that Denji got sexually assaulted or whatever but anyone who reads this chapter and sees him at the end of the chapter staring off into nothingness contemplating everything and go "OMG PEAK ASADEN" then I genuinely don't know what to tell you.
I always went against the grain compared to people who put too much emphasis on Denji's evolution of coming to terms with his concept of sex and his goals but I think the community has done an utter 180 now and can't think past a single rational braincell because "oogabooga ship"
It's not even about wanting it to fail but it feels like genuinely everyones dismissing his mental state currently, all the flags of Asa looking past his goal and trying to get him to "return to a normal life" whilst Nayutas whereabouts are unknown and he's freaking out. It's fucked dude
It's more that his consent isn't certain and that should be more than enough to be suspicious about it, but yea you dare think csm readers have long term memory ?
I donāt think people have ignored Denjis state at all, Asa even got hate for thinking he was speaking in metaphors. Itās just that for better or worse this arc is the first time theyāre even talking to each other for almost a year. They havenāt even talked about the plot aka Death Devil arriving etc, in other words the main Part 2 plot is about these two. This is their third arc together. So I suppose you can just blame Fujimoto. I know Iām not happy about last chapter, but I expected taboo stuff from him
My boy Denji has been through so much shit in such a short time, he seems even more empty than before, I'm surprised he hasn't dropped dead from stress at this point
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Good now pls don't let her dieš
She lost an arm thatās basically her insurance for now š„ø
Oh dear god please no
Fujimotor RN: https://preview.redd.it/7wj3zw4edz5d1.png?width=978&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6feed5d7e68838de0afdf33b36b532e53177375a
Where is that picture from?
Kengan Omega, Raian vs Alan Wu, ch. 96 page 5
My boy Raian in that chapter lose the match by winning
bro looks like sawamura from hni
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Oh, are we Raianposting now? https://preview.redd.it/zota8wmi7a6d1.jpeg?width=430&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ab6066592209f92737273eeb1417034041da932
The way my smile evaporated
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or maybe https://preview.redd.it/izcj2fobu06d1.png?width=266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2cfebdbdbc1efb90a18a8650413cd754f7847f1
That'd be so fucking goated, Mt. Fujimotor pls
Oh no
This is the most simple yet savage reply I've ever seen in my life.
Nah but when is she gonna make a prosthetic weapon please
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beautiful š
https://preview.redd.it/k5m36hnsa06d1.jpeg?width=291&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d32b6636b4ab3ebdb64022ef7aaf60a4346b811 āIs the memory gone? Are you feeling numb?ā
\+RICOCHE https://preview.redd.it/izvyskr6w06d1.png?width=1132&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efd5b4de0b09638d07884e0466e9aad96f3dd7db
"ALL THESE THOUGHTS INSIDE OF MY HE-EAD, BLINDING MY SIGHT IN A CURTAIN OF RE-ED, FRUS-TRA-TION, IS GETTING BIGGER, *BANG, BANG, BANG* , PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER!!!!"
"Death by Sushi" š©š©š©š©š©
Sorry bro. The author is obligated to kill every person that Denji cares about.
Yoru is such a tsundere, Yoru: No Denji only my other self likes you. Also Yoru: Kisses him again.
Yoru definitely likes Denji by herself at this point
Nahhh I think she just likes the feeling and also has influence with the mixing of her soul/body with asa
Why not both?
Idk I just canāt see this malevolent god of war actually be attracted to this autistic teenage boy. I wouldnāt rule it out tho
I mean, Denji does have godly charisma being able to seduce an adult and a Russian sleeper agent
[Live Dennis Reaction](https://i.redd.it/sxy2aso3939a1.jpg)
Denjiās a survivor. Most of the men involved in waging war would be stressed out and fucked up and Denji reminds her of that
So by this logic PTSD=rizz for yoru
https://preview.redd.it/5pvehsh5n26d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1bf1103ddeccb0621cfb3955996f15285ff3423 Yoru only wants one thing and itās fucking disgusting
He's a survivor, they're a dying breed.
Devils have been shown to have pretty human desires that outweighs their devil natures. Makima wants an equal relationship, pochita wants hugs... Maybe Yoru just wants to be loved? Or love somebody?
Sheās not no god lil bro
What a slut.
Asa alt account
She tryna lie to herself š
I dont like you, says before doing another sloppy vacuum french kiss
Dennis has to be so confused right now.
Dennis try not to be manipulated by women challenge
He couldn't win that challenge if he tried.
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wrong hand
It was another encounter
Ah ok, I didnāt consider that
Reminding readers what the real focus of 167 was
With that firmly in mind Iām still taking this W
what I meant was that the development of the weird love story between Asa and Dennis was the real focus of 167, the cum shit was just an unhinged Fujimoto moment for the sake of it (goat).
Eh idk man, I think their love is gonna be on hiatus for now lol. Denji is completely shook and questioning everything in his head and Asa is so embarrassed and canāt face anyone so she is on the complete other side of the train carriage alone. My guess is they stop talking altogether until they have no other choice, and knowing Asa she will probably play it like nothing ever happened. The only chance I see at progress is if they are either forced by someone or something to talk about what happened in detail, or Denji snaps and puts her on the spot about what Yoru meant by 2 people and perhaps even questions if her feelings were real and hers. For now though I think itāll be silence and evasion on both of their ends and the relationship progress will be stalled.
Yoru is blending into Asa, they use the same body different body parts now, they're gonna MERGE
YORUDENNERS WE BEAT THE RĆPE ALLEGATIONS! ASA LIKES DENJI! SHE MADE NO COMMENTS ABOUT NOT WANTING TO JERK HIM OFF OR KISS HIM! SHES MAD THAT YORU ACTED OUT THAT SHIT, NOTHING ELSE! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO FUJIMOTO, I KNEEL. YOU DIDNT POV CHANGE, I KNEW YOU WOULDNT. LETS GOOOOOO
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sheās not mad about the kiss, sheās mad that heāll think sheās a slut now cause Yoru said she doesnāt like him. THIS IS PEAK WRITING
Sheās mad because Yoru is actively sabotaging their relationship by doing crazy advances like this
But the problem is, denji is eating this shit up. Or at least i think.
I think he doesnt know how to feel about it. Literally.
His entire thought process has been static after the "genius" that was the makima plan
He made a binding vow to increase his brain activity just one time in exchange for dampening it for the rest of his life https://preview.redd.it/180vjl2y706d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=134365e38126e307e5c35116bf994721f9099c42
His brain activity dropped even more once he made his contract with the jawline devil.
I donāt think so lmaoā¦did we read the same chapter? Bro seems even more depressed, but now heās also shocked and confused. It could be argued he was enjoying it up until Yoru said she didnāt like him but āthe other me doesā. But now bro just has no idea what is going on.
Yup. Haters better drop this manga and take they whiny ass back to r/jujutsufolk. We're here for BLOOD and CUM
Hell naw. We donāt want them.ššš¾
fine. We'll need somewhere empty. Somewhere where all the unwanted can go. if only there was such a- r/RisingOfTheShieldHero I think we found our solution.
Bruh whatās up with JJK living rent free on CSM fans head?
We are literally the same fanbase my broder.
Username checks out
In the original japanese the kanji was ē“儳 chijo, which is closer to "molester" rather than slut. yea basically asa thinks she assaulted him
Eh. I wouldn't go that far. It's strange that Asa didn't express any anger over Yoru's treatment of Denji, since he was obviously under pressure and uncomfortable. And it's also weird that she expresses absolutely no concerns about what Yoru did to *her*; she just had her body pupeteered and used in a very intimate way. That's a pretty severe violation of bodily autonomy, but she's only concerned that Denji will see her as a skank for it? That's a surprisingly...old-fashioned way of looking at things for Chainsaw Man tbh.
Asa cares more about what people (especially denji) think about her than herself. That's the point.
Hmm, that's an interesting point. But the violation she and Denji experienced was severe enough that you think she'd feel at least *some* sort of way about it. Like, she's not a completely cold-hearted moron; she was devastated when her mother and cat died, and I don't think any of that was because she was worried about how other people see her. She also got mad at Yoru when she cut her hand or hit her or something IIRC. So even if she hesitates, or struggles with the words, or doesn't want to admit it, I'd still have expected Asa to say something rather than nothing. But maybe she will in due time.
She may just be suppressing it or she did actually enjoy kissing him even if she would have never done it had it not been for yoru.
I feel we're forgetting that asa and denji are both developmentally fucked up teens. I cant say for sure what denji's thinking but asa thinking mostly about how denji views her makes sense to me. She likes denji, and what this chapter i feel implies, is that asa is fine with having sex with denji now because she didnt care that she did all that stuff with denji, she is just hesitant to initiate. Now denji is probably feeling overwhelmed with the house burning down, nayuta, post nut clarity, yoru reveal, but he has never been the type to feel violated (at least from what we've seen). At least to him, this time is with a girl he likes so he is probably thinking more about how their relationship is going to continue (which is what asa is thinking as well).
I keep saying, they are the same person (Yoru and Asa). Just like Denji says he is a slave to his desires, Asa is also controlled by them, her desires personified in Yoru.
I mean they are in the 90s but yea, I agree that Asa needed more screentime for addressing the violation. Perhaps she wonāt address it about herself, but to Denji in a later chapter
Hopefully. That's the problem with waiting for weekly/biweekly chapter releases, you read them after waiting for days and days like "WHEN THE FUCK IS ANYTHING GOING TO HAPPEN" and then you go back and read them all at once and you're like "ohhhhhh..."
That's still not consent tho? Its a grey area so idgaf
Exactly. She never communicated to yoru that she wanted that to happen: https://preview.redd.it/1xn75jyuqy5d1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06c9baefe624f0e7fdfe4d4aaf690d86a5c20592 People also need to differentiate between consent and desire.
It's a freaky fucking middle ground that is going to keep this debate going til the last chapter of this series....
Totally agree. It's definitely a complicated topic. My take on this is the key difference is that consent is a clear agreement to something happening, while desire is more about personal feelings. Someone can want something but not consent to it, and vice versa. It's a tricky line but crucial to understand. (I wouldn't want to become a puppet like Asa, where every decision, good or bad, is acted upon for me. Especially in this scenario where my body was forcibly used to jack off a dude). On a side note, I love the fact that even though Makima has died, the theme about control is still super relevant in the story.
Yeah and honestly I feel like it's not really worth throwing my hat in the ring on whether this fictional teenage couple was consenting or not, because I don't want to have egg on my face either way about something like this in general. Although, I'll still discuss it and stuff because this is a story I enjoy, and a story that I hope is written well from cover to cover, because it had such a strong first act. (The second act is also pretty strong but it's not done yet so I don't want to give final opinions on something that isn't final lol)
Asa have desire for Denji, even is she hardly admit it, but don't consent to do something with him yet. Meanwhile Yoru...
Yup, that's exactly what I meant. Also, the confusion between Denji and Asa/Yoru will likely be cleared up soon since Yoru said, "The other me like you." But it'll take time for him to figure it out because if someone said that to me, I would think theyāre crazy.
Well, Denji had multiple hints until now (personality change, she sometimes becomes bold and aggressive, now she's talking about fighting CSM, Nayuta warned him,...), but I'm still not sure about what Denji already guessed (so far he don't seems to really care, even if he probably feels it's weird).
>(so far he don't seems to really care, even if he probably feels it's weird). Yup. This is the most important part here. It all depends on if he ever feels like choosing to investigate any further, and he never outright brings it up unless he's compelled by another to explain. This is, for example, exactly what happened at the end of part 1, where Kishibe asked him a question regarding Makima's scent and how she distinguishes between individuals (Denji was practically invisible to her): https://preview.redd.it/pxfkovt6oz5d1.jpeg?width=808&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fe51ed4cb5df1b01c0e322b7d3b6828b5672a44 On a side note, we know that the other Horsemen of The Apocalypse don't have an interest in remembering faces, but I wonder if Yoru can finally see faces since she's now technically seeing through Asa's eyes. But I doubt that she can remember the faces because she doesn't care enough to remember, I guess.
Heās not so smart all the time and could not know
He probably don't want to know neither, it would mean to give up on Asa, or even having to kill her... I still think he's kinda playing blind, refusing to see all the clues.
guys... what if denji chooses both. again. "Two! I choose both!"
If things don't end-up too bad, I hope that Yoru will have something close to "Makima just wanted hugs and someone she considers as an equal". Maybe in the end, Yoru is seeking for love...
Well it's not consent by irl standards obv What ppl mean with this not being SA is that asa wasn't 100% against it like some people claimed. They can eat shit now. God it feels good to be right
Even if I had a crush on a dude I would still feel violated if the personification of war took over my body and used it to jack him off
I feel like people are using this debate as a genuine moral argument, when it's not that. I feel like it's okay to say that it is sexual assault if the author meant for it to be sexual assault and writes the story according to that. If it's not sexual assault according to the author, then he should write it according to it not being sexual assault. I've said this in other comment sections, but it's all in how tatsuki fujimoto spins this. If he frames it as rape or SA, and writes denji and asa a happy ending where this event never comes up again, then it's a bit weird. Instead it feels like people are tackling this with the level of vitriol that a real rape case would be tackled with by the public. It feels like people are treating this like real people are being hurt, and I feel like it's hurting the discourse. I still don't think we have a clear-cut answer on whether Asa or Denji believes this is a rape, Because in universe, that's what it really comes down to. I'm still going to wait to claim for a certainty what this was, because I don't particularly like having egg on my face, especially when WHY I have egg on my face is up to the public's opinion on fictional sex between two high schoolers.
>Instead it feels like people are tackling this with the level of vitriol that a real rape case would be tackled with by the public. It feels like people are treating this like real people are being hurt, and I feel like it's hurting the discourse. Honestly reddit moment. It's fiction, and Yoru is literally a villain. She's the representative of WAR. An area where sexual assault isn't uncommon. People should stop being so triggered by it. Like yeah, I get it, you guys wanna show that you're anti-rapism, but so are we. So what's the point of using this energy on a fiction when you could use it irl? Some people really need to know the boundaries between fiction and real life. I might get downvoted for this, but it's just attention seeking behaviour when people are literally protesting for fictional characters.
I mean, i see it as SA and Yoru crossed a line, but Yoru also literally wanted to kill Denji too, so idc. She's the War Devil, of course she's gonna do questionable things. Acting like she has done nothing wrong is pretty weird if you ask me tho.
Yoru SA'd not only Dennis but kinda Asa too. It's not like Asa wanted it to happen.
FUCK I'M LAUGHING AND JUMPING LIKE CRAZY RN, FUJICHAD COOKING AGAIN
So many people headcanon retconned Asa and Denji into being their asexual trauma babies that they end up mad and confused when the story contradicts their fanfictions. Like they genuinely believed Asa was going to have a panic attack throwing up pissing and shitting because Yoru gave Denji a tug. Or that when Asa said sex was gross it meant that she was extremely genophobic instead of just acting like a normal teenage girl. Twitter/tumblr crowd needs to stop projecting their desires and insecurities onto manga characters.
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Fraudru confirmed???? 
Huge L, no sex this chapter. I was expecting some crazy shit
Nah after what happened an extra kiss was all I needed
The extra kiss was such an unexpected thing like damn again?
At least we get more fami panels with the sushi place now
They should not allow her in to the restaurant
"Do these sound like the actions of a devil who had *all* she could eat?" -Fami's lawyer three chapters from now
Fr, she should've eaten the cum instead.
The 69 chapter is two weeks from now.Ā Be patient.
XDDD
You can't expect Denji to get it back up that quickly.
Holy W https://preview.redd.it/qahgkfckxy5d1.png?width=642&format=png&auto=webp&s=bb696ff0f647eb1070d84af72195a12d013db278 thank you for this chapter fujimoto
Asa Kujo loves Dennis! :3
>Asa Kujo loves Dennis! :3 YEAH!!! Ma boi, let him be happy! https://preview.redd.it/gfzs9nybqy5d1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a11fb5b0a0544f7a282c2addb17c5b6b09056f4
Why is Asa related to Jotaro Is it because of her aquarium knowledge
LETS GO YORU USING THE āI NEED ONE LAST KISSā MOVE, GAME RECOGNIZES GAME
Just... cinema... https://preview.redd.it/6nxgvrdcwy5d1.jpeg?width=354&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2343c4c97577f6ebd706a8f22ab7879fc7caf1a
Yoruden\*
https://preview.redd.it/jy5atuesjy5d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57155562d57f825975f5770e9b640f635c058610 Didnāt she basically soft confirm itās Asa here
I think sheās being Tsundere about it honestly
Honestly if itās Yoru Denji basically scored 2 women on his own heās the rizz devil if I may
Denji is irRIZZistible.
asa: a triangle love story where my competition is my schizophrenia
Fucking deserves it to.
Like a romantic comedy > Denies it by saying it was heat of the moment > Denies it again by saying someone else put her up to it > Still kisses him again Oh yeah Tsunru is back on the menu (w/ a side of cake)
She hesitates when she says that only Asa likes him. So she's def just being Tsundere.
Who the hell knows at this point. Let's just call it asayoruden idgaf.
Yoru is a massive cope lord
Well we know theyāre forced to feel the same things, kinda, so it doesnāt really matter which is the one that likes Denji first since itāll result in them both feeling that way. They just have different personalities that make how they act on those feelings and rationalize them different. We see it in this chapter where Yoru rationalizes it as itās entirely Asaās feelings just bleeding into her and yet sheās blushing and went for another while Asa is mad that it may have made her look āeasyā to Denji in her mind without denying she also feels that way, sheās just mad that Yoru jumped it like that.
Yes asa loves him and liked the kiss we know that but The one that kissed him was yoru to "confirm" they've kissed before. Yoru is just being tsundere
Nah i think she's just saying that in denial but we know very well she liked it, she just coping
No it's still Yoru, it's just that Asa's feeling made her do it (or so she says)
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Asayoruden*
Well
https://preview.redd.it/u6377cwfnz5d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=295f5151e8fd70e92d65fef4aa6d830fade02aa2 SHES COPING EVERYONE SHES COPING
Kobeni bros..... is this loss? https://preview.redd.it/v1sim3ms1z5d1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6055325165c5aba843f4958bc6a6dc88994b2b6f
AT WHAT COST https://preview.redd.it/ld88h82vrz5d1.jpeg?width=1013&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc5257e09b40b6512dc56abcf1e5279c8cf9d38d
When does the pain end
PEAK CINEMA
NAAAH BRAH WE ALL YORUDEN NOW GET ASA IN THE CUCK CHAIR QUEEN DESERVES IT YORU DOUBLING DOWN PEAK CINEMA I KNEEL FUJIMOTOR
Nah, Asa is gonna beat Yoru into submission. She can already take separate body parts.
God I hate and love the fact that Asa is more worried about Denji seeing her as a loose woman than the fact that Yoru literally assaulted Denji
low social awareness moment
In the original japanese the kanji was ē“儳 chijo, which is closer to "molester" rather than slut. yea basically asa thinks she assaulted him. the localizer is a fucking moron.
Yeah that makes a lot more sense I guess maybe they didnāt want to have the connotation be less rapey in a way to I guess make it a little more acceptable. Plus molester normally in the west especially I feel makes people think of Pedos more so than just sexual assault
I dont think it should have been changed to make it more acceptable because the wording has more weight than usual. It'd be different if a narrator said it was SA vs. Asa saying it was. the latter changes her character, her feelings on the matter, and how she views the situation.
Remember what happened with Bucky? its the same. Asa doesnĀ“t care about what she did, she cares about what other people think of her.
As fucked up as all of it is I canāt help but be absolutely amused at the same time
>ASADEN NATION Dawg, that's not Asa.
FUJIWATER IS PEAK. THANK YOU FUJIWATER
Oh, another chapter actually dropped? Let's check- what is that title
God they're all so fucking autistic.
Just kids way out of their comfort zone without adult supervision or guidance.
prediction: now yoru and asa will fight over denji
I STILL DONT GET WHY CONSENT IS WRONG FOR YORU?? She's done the worst of things and she's literally a devil possessing a body, why would she even care about consent? I'm not saying it's good, just saying it just dosent make sense, character-wise, let's forget about the things she did and the fact she's the war devil, she still wouldn't care, she wants to do something, she does it. That's just how she is
Because thereās no āevilā in ādevilā
Fujimotor is cooking and there are some weird smells coming (or cumming?) from the kitchen
Denji looks like that cat with their face soaked in milk
Tbh this chapter wasnāt as funny as the last one. I was expecting a more bombastic reaction from the two but it kinda justā¦. Moves on?
IDK, she punched Yoru in the face. That was pretty bombastic
Ok the exchange after was pretty funny.
Literally every teen girl to her bff when she accidentally lets her secret crush slip...
Honestly can you really blame two horny teenagers who were in the heat for only a moment? Iām sure they will definitely reflect on it later on
I mean, self reflection is kinda the opposite of ābombasticā. I was just looking for another chapter that makes social media lose its shit but Yoru just kinda wipes *it* off and moves on.
I feel like after the insanity of last week's chapter a somewhat normalish one is ok
Denji got violated by a woman again and you were expecting it to be funny?
No I was expecting the community to go into chernobyl mode and that to be funny. Also kinda.
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
*Yoruden
Iām ngl Fujimoto fucking NAILED the expressions in this chapter
One big reminder: Denji is surprisingly good at paying attention to details, and there's no way what Yoru's said went over his head. Like that time when Asa kept rambling about fishes and whatnot, Denji still listened and remembered what she talked about the starfishes when cooking them.
I think this mf has selective percebtion CAUSE WTF!! One time he's a sherlock homes, realizing that Makima only remembers pochita's smells and using that to kill her, while other times a fucking chaisaw grow in a bike that he's riding and bro finds it normal
More like warsaw nation if this can even count as a win.
Did you not read the rest of the chapter
Lmao I'm not even one of those people who believes that Denji got sexually assaulted or whatever but anyone who reads this chapter and sees him at the end of the chapter staring off into nothingness contemplating everything and go "OMG PEAK ASADEN" then I genuinely don't know what to tell you. I always went against the grain compared to people who put too much emphasis on Denji's evolution of coming to terms with his concept of sex and his goals but I think the community has done an utter 180 now and can't think past a single rational braincell because "oogabooga ship" It's not even about wanting it to fail but it feels like genuinely everyones dismissing his mental state currently, all the flags of Asa looking past his goal and trying to get him to "return to a normal life" whilst Nayutas whereabouts are unknown and he's freaking out. It's fucked dude
It's more that his consent isn't certain and that should be more than enough to be suspicious about it, but yea you dare think csm readers have long term memory ?
I donāt think people have ignored Denjis state at all, Asa even got hate for thinking he was speaking in metaphors. Itās just that for better or worse this arc is the first time theyāre even talking to each other for almost a year. They havenāt even talked about the plot aka Death Devil arriving etc, in other words the main Part 2 plot is about these two. This is their third arc together. So I suppose you can just blame Fujimoto. I know Iām not happy about last chapter, but I expected taboo stuff from him
MFs last week:"I think he actually liked it" Denji the whole chapter: š¦...š¦
Whats the point of spoiler tagging the image if the title spoils it completely still?
Asaden is dead. And we have killed it. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderer of all murderers.
Is this really a win bro she just thirsty she donāt love bro at all šš Asa does but Yoru is also Asa
>fresh raw fish testes >salmon roe
Society
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So obviously 167 was never intended to be read as an SA
Peak.
Zoowee mama https://preview.redd.it/11zi8t9gz16d1.jpeg?width=782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fdc5da480536f6a5d2529a1a3d44d7f0af3e0fc
My boy Denji has been through so much shit in such a short time, he seems even more empty than before, I'm surprised he hasn't dropped dead from stress at this point https://preview.redd.it/95giucavj26d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f393d0f6b9ce4b71da3f47fae39dcae2f963755
https://preview.redd.it/1tgy9iqc356d1.png?width=702&format=png&auto=webp&s=c96c9bcd19434b160b5fb42b7e7a201f6cd27769 Why does bro look like
Canāt believe she saw them crusty ass lips and then double dipped. She really in love in love
Do shippers realize this isnāt a positive chapter? Denji looks devastated and Asa is clearly pissed at Yoru
I think people are only focusing on the fact that they obviously are confirmed to like each other this chapter, but itās super fucked up and messy
As an Asaden enjoyer we did not win bro did we read the same chapter?? š
REZE IS STILL ALIVE FUCK ASADEN REZEDEN IS BETTER
WE FOKIN WON Y'ALL