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vapordaveremix

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spacekitt3n

literally clockwork orange for the techbro age


FirstEvolutionist

It was compulsory empathy in clockwork orange. It was compulsory empathy in minority report. It's still compulsory empathy in this video. The idea seems repulsive to most people. Is it even empathy if it's involuntary? Does it have the same effect as empathy if it's involuntary?


popepaulpop

This is total sci fy BS, we don't have a good enough understanding of the brain to make something like this a reality. And this concept doesn't even try. This is just some idiot who dreamed up a concept without researching the science behind any of it.


FirstEvolutionist

He didn't even dream this up. It's been described for a few centuries. And there's no way we currently have the technology... We might some day though.


FjorgVanDerPlorg

Clockwork Orange, Minority Report, Demolition Man. Same concept different films.


Theloneadvisor

Total Recall


TitularClergy

The point of Clockwork Orange (the film version) is that the society around the main character is never questioned at all. It's strongly hinted that he has been sexually abused by the very people who are supposed to be helping him. And he has turned out warped and violent purely because he has been treated violently himself. The "treatment" is just about getting him to accept abuse. To cope with it. At no point is the cause of his psychology addressed.


Professional-Head998

Oh geez. That explains a lot. All the guys at my Catholic school in the 1980s who loved Clockwork Orange had abusive a-hole, a-type fathers.


Theloneadvisor

Also total recall with Arnold Schwarzenegger


Chalupadrawsmore

that’s a good meme


JoeDredd

You’ll be sick of seeing it soon enough


QuakAtack

I dunno man,,, this horror seems pretty well within my comprehension


CentennialBaby

https://preview.redd.it/8jdxcfw5cr8d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b15e9d31d3a0f5a0c0971e0741e50e076d2e85a


profwithclass

Came here hoping to see this.


techspecshane

where tf did all these LQ computer generated bullshit future tech vids come from? Please leave.


Gortport1

IF this is ACHIEVED we ARE doomed! Investors HATE him for THIS one trick! Indistinguishable lines of text.


Antique-Doughnut-988

My favorite are the videos that say SHOCKED THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY. The people who use that in every video are just creative hacks.


Bloblablawb

From free VC money


LeSeanMcoy

Not even. The dude at the end says this clip is just “an artists imagination.” Somebody literally just made up a “whoa that could be crazy” idea and then people clip/ship it and act like it’s being worked on for engagement.


Sh0w3n

India.


Ok_Elderberry_6727

Demolition man


shikima

He knows


userpaz

A clockwork orange?


OneTotal466

total recall?


Hot-Rise9795

Demolition Man


supremeomelette

fancy taco bell


DesrtBunny

They won the great franchise war


No-Lab3557

This is rat?


rsharriman

Came here for this comment


Hot-Rise9795

Epic_handshake.gif


snowglobe-theory

aka We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, Philip K Dick, 1966


Professional-Head998

I was just thinking that even Bladerunner was pretty much about society wanting to control free will the same way as all these others.


DrStalker

Philip K Dick wrote a whole bunch of stories about how editing memories/being in a constructed reality always ended up badly. Probably because he was having some pretty bad mental troubles towards the end of his life, which is tragic but the stories that came out of it were great.


OppressorOppressed

https://preview.redd.it/grfigoxfss8d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=6da4aaf53f8d20dc9b1ee7a71cba182f0d731583


IcyProperty89

Quaiiiid! Get to the reactooorr!


Jungisnumberone

Howdy Stranger


Ordinary_Support_426

![gif](giphy|diXrgHOhraudy)


Hibbiee

Yeah let's terrorise them with injected lifelike horror memories, wcgw.


LoanDebtCollector

This "method" was used in the past. It is still used in some places to "correct" certain desires, likes, etc. IIRC it's often referred to as "sexual orientation therapy", and also "gender correction therapy".


funmasterjerky

Demolition Man?


1amBATMAN

What about the Three shells this is the plot of demolition man


ProfessorFunky

Yep. I don’t care about the mind programming. I want to know what the three shells do.


ctrlqirl

He doesn't know how to use the three shells! :'D


SpelunkyJunky

Expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive.


Alkyen

As others have mentioned this is impossible with current tech. Also wtf are they thinking lol. I don't even know what's the actual point of the ad but they ain't reforming any prisoners like this


ManaSkies

The goal of the ad is to get prisons to give them test subjects


Johalternate

There is no goal because this is not an ad. This video was created by Hashem Al-Ghaili, he is always creating this proofs of concepts about insane tech to motivate discussion.


Alkyen

you might be right lol, though I hope it will get some backlash. I know prisoners in US are held in lower status than cockroaches but still


erikannen

It’s almost like… maybe there are professionals who are trained in this sort of thing. Perhaps we could use them instead?


Overall_Commercial_5

A new black mirror episode just dropped


redmera

Not quite new, it's the plot of season 2 special "White Christmas".


Overall_Commercial_5

Oh shit you're right I forgot about that episode. Black mirror really is becoming a documentary


UnicornBelieber

That was a sick episode. The ending, oof, where >!every ~~second~~ minute is a millenium in the cookie and they just leave it on the entire Christmas weekend?!< wow.


snowglobe-theory

The real impact of it to me was how casually they did it, very intense episode


OrdoMalaise

Thank fuck this is absolutely impossible with today's tech, and won't be possible for decades, if ever. Although, it's going to suck that people in government positions will fall for this obvious grift, and will squander millions on it before it's revealed... duh, duh, duh... to absolutely not work.


virtualmusicarts

Might be closer than we think: [Meet the Two Scientists Who Implanted a False Memory Into a Mouse | Smithsonian (smithsonianmag.com)](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/meet-two-scientists-who-implanted-false-memory-mouse-180953045/)


ExoticAdventurer

They made a movie about his adventure called Stuart Little


Enochian-Dreams

Poor little guy probably didn’t even get royalties for it too.


ExoticAdventurer

They rewarded him with the memory of being the best damn RC Boat pilot the world has ever seen


Relevant_Sink_2784

The method described is pretty rudimentary compared to what's being outlined here. They basically developed a method for triggering a memory by light simulation. The mouse forms a memory of a box. The mouse is later shocked while triggering a memory of the box. The mouse now associates the box with an electric shock. So while it's a "false memory" the component parts are real world experiences. How you would induce a memory of a completely foreign lived experienced from some kind of simulated feed seems vastly more complicated.


zorbat5

This sounds more like a forced trauma. Not really a memory. The opposite is also done for people suffering ptsd with EMDR (well sort of). By stimulating the brain when thinking of the trauma it decouples the emotion from the trauma. Essentially changing the memory by taking away the emotions associated with it. The mouse experienced the opposite. It got a emotion of pain/fear associated with the box through the form of a shock.


giYRW18voCJ0dYPfz21V

This is fascinating, but reading the details of the experiment they actually combined two existing memories of the same mouse (the spatial one and the electric shock one). Very interesting, but conceptually very different from implanting a brand new memory on a brain. I think the main difficulty is that every brain is different, so even at mouse level the “firings” that encode a memory for a subject are different from another one. Hence the difficulty in implanting a brand new memory where it does not exist already.


tripongo3

It's not. Source: Neuroscientist.


OrdoMalaise

That feels like at least a century prior to what's happening in this video, though.


jarl-marx-

That’s to say it’s not already happening to you right now Ordo. Wake up Ordo, wake up!


Odd_knock

Yeah I think we need way more computer power to be able to analyze anything about the brain to the level of detail required.  But who knows. 


OrdoMalaise

I suspect computer power is the easier part of that problem. The theory side, that you'd need to construct to actually do this, sounds way more complicated to me.


Odd_knock

Oh yeah, agreed.


Nilbogoblins

Isn't this an episode of DS9? Poor Chief.


2dawgsinatrenchcoat

Hard Time


almostelaine

I was hoping to find this comment. Redditors never disappoint.


CumpMoney

Straight where my mind went 😅


m48a5_patton

In DS9 Chief O'Brien went through some really awful shit, from spending "decades" in a horrific prison, to watching his daughter age 10 years and become feral, his wife becoming possessed by an evil spirit, repeatedly witnesses his own death... etc.


Drake_the_troll

I'm sure this won't be abused by authoritarian countries. Nope. It will only be for criminals. Promise.


Aufklarung_Lee

Dissendents are the WORST criminals, them and union people.


Fritanga5lyfe

And people who oppose me. Why can't they remember why I'm the greatest?


Exotic-Tooth8166

Here is a memory of all the pain and suffering your union health care plan is causing for my shareholders bottom line.


HooBoah88

I seem to remember a certain famous book set 40 years ago where the protagonist’s country was run by a single party that branded anyone who opposed them in any way as criminals.


ogjsb

Yeah bc the usa would never abuse technology


22416002629352

by authoritarian he meant the USA i think


Drake_the_troll

It could be any nebulous country, but the US does seem to be speedrunning it these days


GnomKobold

could I make money summarising 30 year old star trek episodes with cheapo animations running in the background? they don't even shy away from stupid technobabble, the future is really now!


DystopianReply

i know kung fu


Flying_Madlad

Can we focus on the things that are actually possible now or in the near future? Fantasies like this are why we have people pushing to restrict actual good technologies. Does way more harm than good, IMO


the_zword

This is actually the goal. Present these obviously outrageous use cases that spark discussions on regulation and ethics and mobilize the outraged base to vote for regulation that places unrealistic restrictions on the technology that smaller companies can't afford to implement. This keeps the money among the existing major players, and establishes control of the market. Best to just go on about your day. This isn't going to happen. Or is it...


mca1169

I'll take a pass on the total recall dystopia. my mind is wild enough without people fucking with it.


MindlessFail

Literally my first cultural reference thought too! Surprised no one else has thought it in the comments yet tbh https://preview.redd.it/exhcm3yner8d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=200dd13e2f8078178d2ccd9f5121f5856b1cb44e


Tx_Drewdad

https://preview.redd.it/n70jje6rjr8d1.jpeg?width=2870&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da13c5d6fcfd37db4943009b1992540981f1d19c


Rockshash-Dumma

I wonder how they would draft their NDA to get the prisoners consents


morriartie

Make them choose between decades in prison or a few hours in the machine. They'll sign anything


Red_Maple

This is literally the plot of demolition man, what the fuck. Why are we trying to create the dystopias we imagine? They’re supposed to be entertaining cautionary tales, not instruction manuals.


maester_t

Not everything in Demolition Man is bad. I know quite a few of us would be down if *every* restaurant was a Taco Bell. As long as they never tell us where the meat comes from.


vagrant_cat

Fuck it. Just kill me now.


Axewound-Infection

If you kill yourself they will use advanced tech hundreds of years from now to put your mind back together in a digital torturous hellscape.


deaththenhell

We are already .


vagrant_cat

Only those who never saw the basilisk are safe.


fyn_world

**You May Live to See Man-Made Horrors Beyond Your Comprehension** is a quote spoken by Nikola Tesla at the first Electrical Exhibition in September 1898 in response to a question about militarizing his radio-controlled model rowboat invention.


PIZT

Deploy pre-crime unit


Amens

What about sex ? This has better use !


Mike_Abergail

No longer a virgin!


morriartie

cybervirgin, someone who's no longer a virgin, but only in VR


ndc41

The absolute cure to inceldom and simping behavior


theairscout

I know, I know... but... could this be already happening?


New_Championship_912

Read "I have no mouth and I must scream" by Harlan Elison. Thank me later.


kelcamer

What about the 'crimes' of smoking weed? What memories will they select then?


Chaikovskii

Memories of growing as a weed, idk


kelcamer

LOL 😂


the-devil-dog

Bull market is here. Memories as NFT's sounds like a great marketing push. AI generated NFT series AI bots trading and market making AI generated marketing


S0ME0NE95

"imagine a world" -where actual corrupt people in powerful places and goverments can erase your idea of being yourself and every single thing you may believe in everytime you show signs of going against the narrative.


gjamesb0

“You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common: they don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views, which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.”


Ididitsoitscool

So they upload live leak to your brain


ChiefTiggems

See, at least now, if I was for some reason imprisoned by bad people I can at least go out when I die. This is shit is horrifying. You could be subjected to hundreds of thousands of years of torture in the span of 5 real time minutes. The people controlling the sim would think it's a joke because it's been five minutes. But to you, it's been 100 million years of suffering... no thanks, just let me die of old age thank you.


i0c0u

Um..did he just advertise Brainwashing people....


Panzer_I

This won’t happen in the next several hundred years. Not because of technological or ethical reasons, but because we wouldn’t get cheap prison (essentially slave) labor that is lobbied for by businesses.


KingKaos420-

Didn’t they do this to the engineer in Star Trek? And also in an episode of Black Mirror?


Nair114

You can brainwash anyone into slaves too.


morriartie

We already have that for free


666FALOPI

yeah right


DependentUnit4775

This is decades away


TheLadder330

Yeahhh I’ve see this Black mirror episode…


Ok_Mix673

There was an [episode ](https://theouterlimits.fandom.com/wiki/The_Sentence) in a TV series on this topic.


motuwed

Isn’t there literally a black mirror episode on this?


Chaikovskii

What if i am obtaining artificial memories right now? *Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?*


Its0nlyRocketScience

*Caught in a landslide*


Ressilith

>it begs the question... no it doesn't >...then did you actually do this stuff no you didn't. so stupid lmao


Fit-Boomer

What is the “criminal” person naturally feels remorse and regret already? Won’t that mean they are getting punished twice?


Ill_Mention3854

I guess they missed this episode of "The Outer Limits" [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667983/?ref\_=ttep\_ep22](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667983/?ref_=ttep_ep22)


Last_Consequence2760

This looks so fake though and the source? Instagram....:/


Reddiitcares

This is so fucking stupid


Stare_Decisis

Funny, this is essentially the plot to an Outer Limits episode The Sentence from 1996.


No_Afternoon6912

Idiocracy at its prime huh?


DagianAventor

Tech people really, really, really do not understand human psychology when it comes to anything except advertisements.


FatCatNamedLucca

This would be great to reform billionaires into decent human beings.


zoning_out_

Is it me or one of the clips looks like the intro of a porn movie?


13thTime

This could already be achieved: the year is 2099, and this could just be a memory youre experiencing to be a better citizen...


greenappletree

this reminds me of the movie Total recall from arnie back in the the 90s


DonAirstrike

I already saw this movie in the 90's. I still don't know what the sea shells do.


Mistabushi_HLL

Demolition Man lvl shit


Odd_Bed_9895

I think I saw this in Minority Report. If Cognify can get Spielberg on board, I’m down


Zuitsdg

There is *no* war in Ba Sing Se


Deluhathol

So basically Total Recall with a little bit of Demolition Man sprinkled in?


Boogledoolah

I'm down for Total Demolition


Deluhathol

Sign me up too


Advanced-Donut-2436

LITERALLY BRAINWASHING. Imagine a world where people weren't desperate to make content.


integerpoet

This is hilarious. Dude thinks criminals are like everybody else and just missing a clue or two.


KalmarLoridelon

It didn’t work in demolition man.


PocketTornado

You want humanity to become enslaved because this is how humanity becomes enslaved. They could implant memories that make you act against your best interests, against those you care for and love.


AlarmDozer

_Demolition Man has entered the chat_


prof0ak

Demolition Man


Lance-Harper

Ber: the rules is: as soon as they have « pods » in their pitch, it’s a stupid idea, barely interesting to begin with: Why not stimulating empathy BEFORE the crime is done… Jesus fucking Christ; it’s right there. And then if crime still gets committed, then it means this was never actually a solution, plus a brain’s config is like a finger print, good luck providing a personalized treatment to each, paying for it alone will make it not scalable enough and by the time we rich that tech, we will have found other things to deal with this, maybe not as good, but more realistic


mallerius

yeah, "if that works, we should also do this with education and lots of other areas" is definitely NOT the question Philosophers ask. source: studied Philosophy including one course, that dealt with all sorts of human "enhancement". Also you don't need a philosopher to answer the question "did you really do this stuff?", because if you didn't do all this stuff and only got artificial memories implanted, then the answer is a plain and simple "No, you didn't do this stuff".


lordpuddingcup

lol people are legit just rehashing old fucking movie ideas for “what if we did this” bullshit lol It’s not even an original one there were 2-3 in the 80a and 90s


Tx_Drewdad

It's almost like a fiction version of science! I bet you could write a book about using technology to rehabilitate prisoners! (Orange is the new clockwork!) Or a short story about implanting memories of vacations! (Wholesale remembering!)


sablab7

investment bait


CaptainObviousII

Ohh fuck. Someone soon is going to fuck around and wire up the world's most prolific serial killer. They will literally always be one step ahead since they will have super human intelligence and strength. We'll need Arnold to come out of retirement.


Moist_Guarantee_2079

But wait… what if we used this for good Citizens??? Well hello blue pill!


teacher-reddit

Theonomy looks better every day


Topias12

how many things are we willing to do for not doing the thing that we need to do ? like, a living wage, a house to stay and an education system were we will teach how to express our feelings


Lopsided-Sweet-2451

Demolition Man


euvimmivue

![gif](giphy|3ornk03njkdi5mNKJG)


TekRabbit

I thought they were going in totally different direction At first, something like blocking people up in an AI world for a while


Sensitive-Tomato97

technical explanation for Mugen Tsukuyomi


uCockOrigin

Bro watched too much Black Mirror


FuckYourUpvotes666

Can someone please show this dude clockwork orange.


MrCrowww

Clockwork Orange


Griffstergnu

Penitence Stare achieved


calgeorge

There was an episode of Star Trek DS9 that was like this


martinbv1995

Not all criminals lack empathy A lot of the psychopaths are respected top leaders.


Ksavero

Until one of those idiots discovers that his life is a lie and goes on an epic journey to discover the horrible truth, can't handle it, tells everyone else and starts a revolution against the system


NotThatSpecialToo

They already did this in Demolition man. It did not work out well.


GuilheMGB

Tech bro scams are on the rise I guess? Edit: I get it's an "artist vision" but start ups trying to ride the AI hype are every where with similar dystopian and seemingly elusive ideas.


Geoclasm

yeah okay. and what if they are actually, you know, damaged mentally? like, actual clinical psychopathy or sociopathy? Or one of the endless other possible reasons a person could do crimes? jeez what the fuck is this shit -\_-;


mvandemar

Sure, when presented like this it definitely seems like dystopia. But what if instead of for criminals, it allowed AI to implant years of trauma therapy into victims with PTSD, like with The Matrix for weapons or helicopter pilot skills, but for healing? Or analyze the thoughts of kids with learning disabilities and figure out exactly how to show them how things work so they can learn more easily? It's only evil if used for evil purposes.


thixtrer

"it raises profound philosophical questions" Now I just hear AI everywhere, what the hell


LightLucks

I’ve seen this horror plot in movies many times before.


Spirited_Salad7

i guess there was a movie about this . some similarities but diffrenet in general


cisco_bee

Can I replace my childhood memories and magically erase my anxiety?


Sir-Beardless

This one time, I saw a volcano erupting, so I thought it would be cool to run across the lava really fast like people do over hot coals, it was sooo risky, but hella fun. Burnt my feet a little though, wouldn't recommend it. Totally happened, I remember it vividly...


Wills-Beards

Clickbait title. Don’t even waste a second to watch it 😅


alurbase

Oh hey it’s Pranav Antal from Elite Dangerous. Long live Utopia, my type 9 is ready to bring dissident scum for processing!


Evan_Dark

Oh boy, this is populism at its best. They claim to have one solution to solve EVERYTHING! Right. Even if we could implant memories, that wouldn't simply change a person. No, we are not just the sum of our memories. If they had a psychologist on their team, they would know that. But I guess they prefer to rely on simple sayings to explain the complexity of the human psyche. Also, what makes them think a criminal has never experienced the same pain they caused? Many have experienced violence themselves. The problem is not that they don’t know how violence feels; the problem is that many know it all too well. Again, if they had a psychologist on their team, they would understand these things instead of uttering absolute nonsense.


Accomplished-Knee710

Fuck prisoners. I want one of these to simulate a world where every women is a 10 and they all need to ravage my body to live.


OtherwiseGuy0

Didn't they make a black mirror episode on this ?


thegreatestmeicanbe

A real life Total Recall.


OtherwiseGuy0

Didn't they make a black mirror episode on this ?


fuck-coyotes

How come this tech is immediately and firstly advertised for prison punishment? Could you not also give someone a college degree with the same technology?


Fantastic-Plastic569

We aren't even close to manipulating brain like this. If we could, mental illness would be solved by now.


proletariat_liberty

LMAO I WOULD USE THIS FOR SOME SERIOUS FETISHES


alex3tx

Wow you watched Demolition Man as well? Next you're gonna make a video claiming to have eliminated toilet paper with three seashells...


Its0nlyRocketScience

Oh look, they're building the torment nexus


Fabryz

TOTAL RECALL


rover_G

Futuristic lobotomy in a techie asylum


DontWreckYosef

We noticed you didn’t clap enough for the dear leader. Now you must undergo mandatory criminal reprogramming.


UrbanMasque

Do whatever you want, as long as this experiment isnt used to subvert the time theyre supposed to serve. If someone is meant to serve 10 years, doing this program shouldn't let them out in 1, or 5 years. It should just be used to rehabilitate since converting to a religion or getting your GED doesnt seem to work for reducing the recidivism rate.