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No way š¤£š¤£š¤£ I'm wondering if he has contractual obligations to include her in his musical, maybe? And can't fire her so to say. Idk if I'm making sense lol
Right? Idina Menzel is a Broadway legend. Lin-Manuel Miranda is a Broadway legend. Colleenās Broadway career burned out quickly when people realized she was a talentless hack and asses werenāt in the seats anymore.
I know they are besties but I really donāt think Colleen will actually make it to the stage. Something has me thinkin that if ticket sales reflect complaintsā¦ she might just get the boot.
Todrick is self-serving first and foremost.
Heās so disliked already that I doubt tickets will actually sell as well as he hopes, and Colleen being part of it really isnāt going to help his case at all.
Disliked by most of the internet but he is still decently popular and I mean.. people DO like a lot of the celebs he has listed. He is a snake but he is a snake who knows who he needs to connect with the get ahead. But yeah it wonāt be a a smash success or anything.
Are they besties though? Do you think he's ever once visited her? I'd be shocked if they had any interaction outside of Colleen using him for the pregnancy reaction videos.
Oh I think they are besties the way people like Colleen and todrick are besties with anyone. Superficially and when it benefits them. Also Todrick - for whatever reason - has given Colleen a ride on his coattails a few times. Music videos at the height of his YouTube popularity and the only reason she got that waitress feature was through him.
Ok. **Todrick is a HORRIBLE person**, who has a long history of not paying for labor, abusive practices, fraud, entitlement and general-narcissism, treating others as they are beneath himā- the fact that all these industry pros have agreed to be associated *with both Todrick AND Colleen*ā- **I HOPE THEY GET A LOOOOTTTTT OF SLACK FOR THIS** (but they will not).
That's exactly how I imagine him to be, colleen's also acts overly entitled. being stunt cast totally went to her head. She behaved outlandishly at the theatre, trying to steal all the attention from the actual stars. I'm not surprised she and her pet kory weren't invited back. The actual stars of the show can be seen looking at her loud, brash entitled behaviour outside stage door and looking like "wtf" lol. It's so embarrassing for colleen, esp Kory the wet lettuce yelling and acting as her bodyguard lol Telling people they couldn't have a signature if they hadn't seen the show etc I used to work at a theatre and even the biggest stars didn't try to throw their weight around like that.
As they should-Derek Klena has actually worked with Colleen in the past lol and others I know who have worked with him make it seem like heās not that much better than Colleen attitude wise either
Not shocked Todrick would include her. Honestly more shocked so many Broadway people I respect will work with him? Especially given his history of how he treats his employees. Youād think that people would care about dancers and their treatment.
Why should someone have to speak out about a video most people have never seen from over a decade ago? Doubt most people would even remember that if they're constantly working. Colleen Ballinger is a nobody to most people unless they're online all the time.
Nobodyās asking Derek to speak out about this video-in fact, he probably couldāve gotten away with being completely silent had he not started working with Colleen again after all this evidence came out against her.
Ahhhh yesss! Welllllll birds of a feather flock together. They both have professional and sexual misconduct allegations. I canāt imagine what it would be like working with both those toxic mofos ahahah
Derek has worked with Colleen in the past as Miranda, and just like Colleen heās been a lifelong bully.
He has a history of being inappropriate with his costars (particularly women) and has refused scripted romantic moments with his queer and male costars, sometimes to the point of harming others in the process (physically).
A friend of mine has known and worked with him since they were in elementary school together and it sounds like Derek has been behaving this way since he was a child and heās never been held accountable. Who knows what heās getting away with nowā¦
You aren't saying anything tangible. I can come on here and say Colleen Ballinger once gave me life saving CPR and no one should believe me because I am an anonymous internet user.
You clearly came her to play devilās advocate without a good reason. *You* donāt have any evidence to prove your claims (not even anecdotal) yet you somehow have the audacity to question people who actually KNOW the person in question.
Even if I were to post the personal (and identifiable) information you seem to think youāre entitled to, it would be a violation of this subās rules and would be removed immediately.
Find another hobby.
You get to go on the internet and make a shit ton of comments making really serious accusations against someone with "my friend knew him over a decade ago" on one of the most unreliable websites on the internet and no one gets to question it, got it.
Bro this pissed me off big time, the comments defending this creepy freak triggered me so bad. People talking about ātheyāve been friends for a long timeā like this is how abusers continue to get away with shit bc their friends and family donāt hold them accountable. This grown woman told children to send videos sticking tampons in their mouth like am I crazy?? I literally canāt imagine what itās like to be the victims, I would actually go insane seeing people support her.
Throughout his career and going all the way back to high school, from the sounds of it. People who used to work with him say he was just as angry about being scripted romantic moments with lesbians just as much as men.
I met him at the JLP stage door and he seemed genuinely nice and chill.
Itās interesting how long stories of these Broadway performers come out after a while.
His stage door persona is just as much of an act as his on stage persona. I personally find it telling that heās been in queer-focused shows like JLP and Moulin Rouge, yet heās never spoken up in favor of the LGBTQIA+ community.
Broadway is known for queer activism, especially raising awareness for HIV/AIDS so itās weird to not say anything about itā¦especially during pride monthā¦
Tbh Iām also yikesing very hard at all these fancy Broadway people working with Todrickā¦like, do they not all know heās trash? The theatre community is extremely close knit and people talk all the time, this is messy for everyone.
Yeah Iām not talking about them, Iām talking about the multiple Tony Award winners and other performers with numerous Broadway credits who also apparently participated in this.
I looked at the post and it seems like he started recording this in 2019, so well before all this stuff gained traction? Idk, Iāve been chronically online since my teens and thereās a lot of shit thatās not common knowledge among people who are not immersed in it. Itās still weird tho bc I feel like at minimum he was a known asshole back then, but less upsetting than if theyād all done this within the last year or two.
Yeah I feel like 2019 was the peak time in which Todrick and Colleen in particular were knowingly getting away with behavior that they knew was problematic but what they were sound wasnāt really recognized or established as problematic until much later.
If Iām not mistaken wasnāt Todrick was also featured in an episode of the *Queer Eye* reboot around that time (2018-2019)? Maybe thatās what swayed the general public in his favor for awhileā¦?
Idk about Queer Eye but he was a guest choreographer and guest judge on Drag Race a couple times in 2016-17 and did stints in Kinky Boots, Waitress, and Chicago on Broadway around that time as well which I feel like gave him an air of legitimacy with theatre people. I feel like the accusations against him didnāt gain a ton of traction until he acted like an ass on Big Brother a couple years ago.
Youāre right-I totally forgot about how celebrated his portrayal of Lola was in Kinky Boots (tbh even I liked it at first before I knew more about him as a person)ā¦
This makes me wonder how many of these folks are willing participants and which may or may not be under contractā¦
i don't know what this is about but i see derek klena and he's sooooooo freaking beautiful. his voice makes me swoon. and definitely shouldn't be in the same post as colleen if they're talking about great voices.
Aside from the fact that heās already willingly worked with Miranda? The video has been posted on this sub in case you donāt believe that either.
Likewise-do *you* have any proof that Derek isnāt who his former costars say he isā¦?
Not a show per se. It's a licensing outfit through which theatre companies can produce the shows Todrick has written. Not sure sure how all these performers are involved. Maybe they contributed to cast albums?
My comment was āābut Colleen is my friend!ā You wanna know what I did when I found out my friend was a racist? I dropped them. You wanna know what I did when I found out my boyfriend was antisemitic? I dumped him. You wanna know what Iād do if I found out my friend was a groomer? IāD DROP HER!!! Have yaāll ever heard the phrase āyouāre only as good as the company you keepā? š¤·š»āāļøā
And he dmed me and said āIād love to talk to someone who has such strong opinions about thisā which I HIGHLY doubt is true since he was coping and defending her so hard in the comment section lmaaooo. I might reply just to see what he says honestly š I canāt imagine it going well though since he has his own accusations š¤Ŗ If I do reply Iāll make a separate post and post all the screenshots
Iām gonna be completely honest. This just looks like a collection of actors who are probably all at the same agency or have the same management company. Most likely an agency though. Like this very much looks like a package deal where all of these actors were included in it. Iām sure some of them of course have worked with Todrick before. Thatās gonna be the narrative to justify it. But an actuality it is an agency saying weāre gonna bundle all of our talent in a package for a project that we will also coproduce. But just getting this sheer amount of varying degrees of popularity and talent. To me that just screams we have the same agency and therefore we will package together for this project. Because my understanding I donāt think Colleen got dropped from her agency. They just cooled down on her. Doesnāt mean theyāre not working deals for her. Because she still their client.
Derek Klena has worked with Colleen in the past, so itās probably his choice to work with her again. I doubt he cares about the controversy surrounding her since it seems he acts the same way backstage.
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No idea how to add screenshots but there's one comment "Colleen is a big yikes" and it's full on liked by Todrick ššš
LOL TOO FUNNY
No way š¤£š¤£š¤£ I'm wondering if he has contractual obligations to include her in his musical, maybe? And can't fire her so to say. Idk if I'm making sense lol
I wonder this tooā¦ reading comments heās defending her saying theyāre friends but he also mentions this was recorded a long time ago.
calling colleen a broadway legend is criminal
Right? Idina Menzel is a Broadway legend. Lin-Manuel Miranda is a Broadway legend. Colleenās Broadway career burned out quickly when people realized she was a talentless hack and asses werenāt in the seats anymore.
Bernadette Peters is a Broadway legend and putting Colleen in the same breath as her makes my heart sad.
Same, itās mind-blowing that someone would even attempt to lump her in with Bernadette Peters, a very talented singer/actor.
And award winning actress
colleen was in one show and she wasnāt very good, i think the only other show that would take her is avenue q or cats tbh
Hey donāt rip on Avenue Q like that
oh but sheād be perfect in āthe internet is for pornā song!! she wouldnāt even have to act!
Stop. I can't! š
I know they are besties but I really donāt think Colleen will actually make it to the stage. Something has me thinkin that if ticket sales reflect complaintsā¦ she might just get the boot. Todrick is self-serving first and foremost.
Heās so disliked already that I doubt tickets will actually sell as well as he hopes, and Colleen being part of it really isnāt going to help his case at all.
Disliked by most of the internet but he is still decently popular and I mean.. people DO like a lot of the celebs he has listed. He is a snake but he is a snake who knows who he needs to connect with the get ahead. But yeah it wonāt be a a smash success or anything.
Are they besties though? Do you think he's ever once visited her? I'd be shocked if they had any interaction outside of Colleen using him for the pregnancy reaction videos.
Oh I think they are besties the way people like Colleen and todrick are besties with anyone. Superficially and when it benefits them. Also Todrick - for whatever reason - has given Colleen a ride on his coattails a few times. Music videos at the height of his YouTube popularity and the only reason she got that waitress feature was through him.
Ok. **Todrick is a HORRIBLE person**, who has a long history of not paying for labor, abusive practices, fraud, entitlement and general-narcissism, treating others as they are beneath himā- the fact that all these industry pros have agreed to be associated *with both Todrick AND Colleen*ā- **I HOPE THEY GET A LOOOOTTTTT OF SLACK FOR THIS** (but they will not).
yep I am not shocked at all Todrick would do this.
Yea.. I met him at Disneyland once and he seemed so annoyed that I had said hi and had asked if we could take a picture..
That's exactly how I imagine him to be, colleen's also acts overly entitled. being stunt cast totally went to her head. She behaved outlandishly at the theatre, trying to steal all the attention from the actual stars. I'm not surprised she and her pet kory weren't invited back. The actual stars of the show can be seen looking at her loud, brash entitled behaviour outside stage door and looking like "wtf" lol. It's so embarrassing for colleen, esp Kory the wet lettuce yelling and acting as her bodyguard lol Telling people they couldn't have a signature if they hadn't seen the show etc I used to work at a theatre and even the biggest stars didn't try to throw their weight around like that.
As they should-Derek Klena has actually worked with Colleen in the past lol and others I know who have worked with him make it seem like heās not that much better than Colleen attitude wise either
Not shocked Todrick would include her. Honestly more shocked so many Broadway people I respect will work with him? Especially given his history of how he treats his employees. Youād think that people would care about dancers and their treatment.
Yeah, getting an endorsement from an equally horrible person isn't exactly great for her. lol
Broadway legend?!
Legends in their own minds lol
Don't you know doing something once mediocrely means you're a legend on the internet??
Damn, publicly allying yourself with Colleen Ballinger. š like good for him for launching that company, but thatās just wild.
not derek klena getting wrapped up in this
It was probably Derekās choice to work with Colleen since heās done so before (when she was Miranda too)
In like 2011 lmao
Still lol itās not like heās spoken out against her or anything
Why should someone have to speak out about a video most people have never seen from over a decade ago? Doubt most people would even remember that if they're constantly working. Colleen Ballinger is a nobody to most people unless they're online all the time.
Nobodyās asking Derek to speak out about this video-in fact, he probably couldāve gotten away with being completely silent had he not started working with Colleen again after all this evidence came out against her.
This was recorded when Todrick and Colleen were in Waitress together, per his weird ass comments defending her and himself on Instagram.
Ahhhh yesss! Welllllll birds of a feather flock together. They both have professional and sexual misconduct allegations. I canāt imagine what it would be like working with both those toxic mofos ahahah
also treating homeless people like theyāre pieces of scum and filming them without consent and LAUGHING at them
I feel so so bad for the ones that donāt know about the horrible shit that theyve done
Colleen, Todrick, AND Derek lol Bet this music is gonna be about Theater Kid Bullies
What did Derek do?
Derek has worked with Colleen in the past as Miranda, and just like Colleen heās been a lifelong bully. He has a history of being inappropriate with his costars (particularly women) and has refused scripted romantic moments with his queer and male costars, sometimes to the point of harming others in the process (physically). A friend of mine has known and worked with him since they were in elementary school together and it sounds like Derek has been behaving this way since he was a child and heās never been held accountable. Who knows what heās getting away with nowā¦
Sounds like youāre just spreading baseless rumors
Sounds like you came her to invalidate people because you donāt like what theyāre saying-try again š¬
You aren't saying anything tangible. I can come on here and say Colleen Ballinger once gave me life saving CPR and no one should believe me because I am an anonymous internet user.
You clearly came her to play devilās advocate without a good reason. *You* donāt have any evidence to prove your claims (not even anecdotal) yet you somehow have the audacity to question people who actually KNOW the person in question. Even if I were to post the personal (and identifiable) information you seem to think youāre entitled to, it would be a violation of this subās rules and would be removed immediately. Find another hobby.
You get to go on the internet and make a shit ton of comments making really serious accusations against someone with "my friend knew him over a decade ago" on one of the most unreliable websites on the internet and no one gets to question it, got it.
Nothing anyone but this one specific user with an obvious grudge and no evidence knows about.
More like "failed Disney performer"
Bro this pissed me off big time, the comments defending this creepy freak triggered me so bad. People talking about ātheyāve been friends for a long timeā like this is how abusers continue to get away with shit bc their friends and family donāt hold them accountable. This grown woman told children to send videos sticking tampons in their mouth like am I crazy?? I literally canāt imagine what itās like to be the victims, I would actually go insane seeing people support her.
Not derek ššš I loved him in Anastasia
Derek has refused scripted romantic moments with his costars because he didnāt want to kiss a queer person
When did this happen?!
Throughout his career and going all the way back to high school, from the sounds of it. People who used to work with him say he was just as angry about being scripted romantic moments with lesbians just as much as men.
Dang, thanks for making me aware of this. That is super shitty.
Thank you as well š
Heās in Moulin Rouge on Broadway for a second time.
Itās ironic considering his history of homophobia and sexism
I met him at the JLP stage door and he seemed genuinely nice and chill. Itās interesting how long stories of these Broadway performers come out after a while.
His stage door persona is just as much of an act as his on stage persona. I personally find it telling that heās been in queer-focused shows like JLP and Moulin Rouge, yet heās never spoken up in favor of the LGBTQIA+ community. Broadway is known for queer activism, especially raising awareness for HIV/AIDS so itās weird to not say anything about itā¦especially during pride monthā¦
Tbh Iām also yikesing very hard at all these fancy Broadway people working with Todrickā¦like, do they not all know heās trash? The theatre community is extremely close knit and people talk all the time, this is messy for everyone.
THANK YOU
Both Todrick and Derek have worked with Colleen before as Miranda so they know exactly what theyāre doing
Yeah Iām not talking about them, Iām talking about the multiple Tony Award winners and other performers with numerous Broadway credits who also apparently participated in this.
Good point-their nasty reputations are public and thereās no way all these Tony winners donāt know
I looked at the post and it seems like he started recording this in 2019, so well before all this stuff gained traction? Idk, Iāve been chronically online since my teens and thereās a lot of shit thatās not common knowledge among people who are not immersed in it. Itās still weird tho bc I feel like at minimum he was a known asshole back then, but less upsetting than if theyād all done this within the last year or two.
Yeah I feel like 2019 was the peak time in which Todrick and Colleen in particular were knowingly getting away with behavior that they knew was problematic but what they were sound wasnāt really recognized or established as problematic until much later. If Iām not mistaken wasnāt Todrick was also featured in an episode of the *Queer Eye* reboot around that time (2018-2019)? Maybe thatās what swayed the general public in his favor for awhileā¦?
Idk about Queer Eye but he was a guest choreographer and guest judge on Drag Race a couple times in 2016-17 and did stints in Kinky Boots, Waitress, and Chicago on Broadway around that time as well which I feel like gave him an air of legitimacy with theatre people. I feel like the accusations against him didnāt gain a ton of traction until he acted like an ass on Big Brother a couple years ago.
Youāre right-I totally forgot about how celebrated his portrayal of Lola was in Kinky Boots (tbh even I liked it at first before I knew more about him as a person)ā¦ This makes me wonder how many of these folks are willing participants and which may or may not be under contractā¦
sheās in āugly the musicalā š
LOL
Iām just Glad the Grandeās arenāt defending her. they have the biggest fanbase of Colleenās āCircleā
Isnāt Tondrick known to know pay his staff? š
when was this post made?
Today
probably doing it for attention. donāt give them the satisfaction of comments/checking it out to hate watch.Ā
i don't know what this is about but i see derek klena and he's sooooooo freaking beautiful. his voice makes me swoon. and definitely shouldn't be in the same post as colleen if they're talking about great voices.
Sorry but people who have worked with Derek in the past say heās bratty and homophobic so heās probably okay with this
Source: trust me bro Youāre the only one saying this in this entire thread
Sounds like you love to invalidate victims of bullying and harassment because you Stan the celebs that perpetuate itā¦ š¬ Do better
Do you have a source that isn't "my friend knew him 10+ years ago trust me bro" ?
Aside from the fact that heās already willingly worked with Miranda? The video has been posted on this sub in case you donāt believe that either. Likewise-do *you* have any proof that Derek isnāt who his former costars say he isā¦?
The video is from 10+ years ago before most of this shit went down with her.
I think its some kind of upcoming show š¤·āāļø
Not a show per se. It's a licensing outfit through which theatre companies can produce the shows Todrick has written. Not sure sure how all these performers are involved. Maybe they contributed to cast albums?
Ohhh ok
oh man... i feel bad for some of these singers then. i wouldn't wanna be trapped in any room or show with colleen!!! haha!
Oh Jesus
OOF and Derek Klena too lol š¬ So much problematic Broadway in one pic
Bro Todrick dmed me on Instagram because I gave him a hard time in that comment section lol. Iām still debating if itās even worth it to respond
Lmaoo what did you say šš
My comment was āābut Colleen is my friend!ā You wanna know what I did when I found out my friend was a racist? I dropped them. You wanna know what I did when I found out my boyfriend was antisemitic? I dumped him. You wanna know what Iād do if I found out my friend was a groomer? IāD DROP HER!!! Have yaāll ever heard the phrase āyouāre only as good as the company you keepā? š¤·š»āāļøā And he dmed me and said āIād love to talk to someone who has such strong opinions about thisā which I HIGHLY doubt is true since he was coping and defending her so hard in the comment section lmaaooo. I might reply just to see what he says honestly š I canāt imagine it going well though since he has his own accusations š¤Ŗ If I do reply Iāll make a separate post and post all the screenshots
Lmaooo. I really wanna know more. But thats too good š
Iām gonna be completely honest. This just looks like a collection of actors who are probably all at the same agency or have the same management company. Most likely an agency though. Like this very much looks like a package deal where all of these actors were included in it. Iām sure some of them of course have worked with Todrick before. Thatās gonna be the narrative to justify it. But an actuality it is an agency saying weāre gonna bundle all of our talent in a package for a project that we will also coproduce. But just getting this sheer amount of varying degrees of popularity and talent. To me that just screams we have the same agency and therefore we will package together for this project. Because my understanding I donāt think Colleen got dropped from her agency. They just cooled down on her. Doesnāt mean theyāre not working deals for her. Because she still their client.
Hmm š¤ seems like a good explanation
Not shocked at alllll todrick has been a problem for years
todricks a horrible person anyways, he's constantly stuck in past
Trash picks trash!
I have literally no idea what this post is about, but Derek Klena is amazing. He should not be on the same page as Colleen
Derek Klena has worked with Colleen in the past, so itās probably his choice to work with her again. I doubt he cares about the controversy surrounding her since it seems he acts the same way backstage.
Oh come on Todrick I thought you were better than this.
Absolutely not š¤£
Lmao nah. Honestly heās right up there with Colleen with how heās treated his employees and how heās treated others. Heās trash.