I eat cereal by taking a handful out of the box, throwing it in my mouth, and then taking a sip out of the half gallon horizon milk. No soggy cereal yeaaq
Gotta show my wife there's at least someone else out there doing the same thing lmao. She thinks I'm an animal. But I do like eating with my hands. I'm white so it's not even a cultural thing like in Indian culture or something. She can't get over it.
Don’t dry pour
If you do dry pour, put some plastic between the new and the old so it doesn’t bond at all and will be easier for the new concrete guy to tear out
"and/or" is the incorrect function between "expansion joint" and "dowels." You would do an expansion joint OR dowels. Doing both would negate both functions and make a mess. That being said, I agree, a dry pour is never the right thing to do.
you can epoxy and dowel at the same time as long as the dowels aren't epoxied or fixed into the existing slab. Still allows for expansion/contraction but restricts differential settlement
A 4" slab isn't big enough for that kind of dowels, and also a pretty technical thing for a lay person to do. And saying "epoxy and dowel as long as you don't epoxy" is a very strange thing to say, don't you think?
Shouldn't you avoid dowels into pavement less than 4" thick? CSI doesn't provide a spec for it because it's highly likely to damage the slab but it'll also never achieve 2" coverage, thus condensation can happen, or so I've been educated.
yeah…water…has society gotten so lazy that we can’t be bothered to add one single fucking ingredient for a product to be installed properly…
nails?! we don’t need no fucking nails to frame…we’re just gonna cut everything really really tight and jamb them together really quick
That's not the point whatsoever, Holmes. If the average person had to make one cut out of a dovetail, they'd end up just gluing two butt ends together. The point is it's a two-step process where they skip step one.
yeah. water.
dont do dry pour. its a shitty "hack" that works for decorative stuff if you dont mind it cracking and flaking in five years. dont use it for anything you're going to walk or stand on.
Imma go dry pour some aircrete blocks so I can start building my $500 off grid zero waste tiny home just to spite you.
I'll post update vids on my van life YouTube channel that has 14 subscribers.
This is gonna be huge...
Dry pour is like sticking your dick in crazy. At best it's fun but not worth the grief.
If you want a shitty slab that won't pass a home inspection go right ahead.
Is dry pouring where they just dump the material out and hose it down? If that's your level of intelligence I say fucking send it and make sure to take pics haha I gotta see this
I agree with everyone here that is saying dry concrete making is dumb. It will fail no matter what you do. If you were to pour concrete, I would recommend drilling #4 dowels @ 12”o/c, epoxy in place, and then cover the exposed end w/ a Sika Speed Dowel. Use 3/8” - 1/2” expansion felt against the old slab. Once the new slab is cured ~28days, put a backer rod and sealant bead at the joints between the slab. Because this is slab on grade you should use green bar. If you don’t put in the dowels, you risk differential settlement that will create a trip hazard. If you don’t use the expansion felt, speed dowels, or green bar you risk damaging one of the slabs in the form of spalling from the shrinkage of the new slab and/or rust jacking of the dowels.
How about you rent a fucking paddle mixer for like $100 and save yourself a lot of grief. You can mix 3 bags at a time in about as much time as you can add the water.
If u don’t want the slabs lifting and creating a lip over time u need to drill and put rebar In The existing slab, and please for the love of god do not dry pour
https://www.homehardware.ca/en/4-x-50-concrete-expansion-joint/p/2730210
Any product like this. If there’s a perforated strip in it for tearing off nearer to one edge, that’s the top so you can tear it off after the concrete cures and put a 2-component caulk joint in the top of the gap between slabs.
If you seriously intend to drypour make sure you have grass fibers and some tree roots growing so the concrete has some natural god given fibers to grab on to.
I don't understand this fascination with dry pour these days. The only way to be sure you have all the powder properly wetted down is to mix it and then pour it in (or shovel it in) to the final position and then smooth it all down. It's a little more work but vastly better and more consistent results.
You can put stacks of $20 bills between the pours. Then, when you hire another ci tractor to come and tear it all out and replace it, they get paid as they go.
I’ve had professional concrete guys tell me to put plastic over the existing I’m enlarging a walkway myself but I’m gonna pour straight over top of the existing!
I decided not to dry pour thanks to all the concerns. I had a pro come in a buggy some concrete to my back yard. I will always have buyers regret, but that is probably better than installers remorse.
The term dry pour is an oxymoron. That being said, only a moron would dry pour anything.
I’ve poured dry mix out of bags before. I think it’s the easiest way to get it into buckets.
Ot is easier to mix with water in the bucket isn't it.
dry pour cereal?
I eat cereal by taking a handful out of the box, throwing it in my mouth, and then taking a sip out of the half gallon horizon milk. No soggy cereal yeaaq
I also eat cereal this way, optimal
Gotta show my wife there's at least someone else out there doing the same thing lmao. She thinks I'm an animal. But I do like eating with my hands. I'm white so it's not even a cultural thing like in Indian culture or something. She can't get over it.
Optimal for you, but everyone else gets your dirty hand rogered cereal. Delicious. I’m sure you wash your hands right before you go digging too?
After each mouthful.
Don't forget to stick a spoon inside your cheeks to stir it all up a bit. You wouldn't want any dry clumps left behind.
Milk first, then cereal, obviously.
Monster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pour *1b: dispense from a container* doesn’t have to be a fluid.
Agreed. I watched a PSI test on dry v wet. People who “dry pour” are lazy and ignorant to how concrete works.
I like dry pour pancakes. Pour the powder in the pan and sprinkle it with water.
I heard “dry pour” self leveling is the next big fad to hit the DIY scene
Don’t dry pour If you do dry pour, put some plastic between the new and the old so it doesn’t bond at all and will be easier for the new concrete guy to tear out
😂😂
Doesn't matter what you do, a dry pour will never last. If you decide to do the right thing, add expansion and / or dowel into existing.
"and/or" is the incorrect function between "expansion joint" and "dowels." You would do an expansion joint OR dowels. Doing both would negate both functions and make a mess. That being said, I agree, a dry pour is never the right thing to do.
you can epoxy and dowel at the same time as long as the dowels aren't epoxied or fixed into the existing slab. Still allows for expansion/contraction but restricts differential settlement
A 4" slab isn't big enough for that kind of dowels, and also a pretty technical thing for a lay person to do. And saying "epoxy and dowel as long as you don't epoxy" is a very strange thing to say, don't you think?
Smooth dowels and expansion allow the patio to expand or contract horizontally without sinking or raising vertically. They are not mutually exclusive
Shouldn't you avoid dowels into pavement less than 4" thick? CSI doesn't provide a spec for it because it's highly likely to damage the slab but it'll also never achieve 2" coverage, thus condensation can happen, or so I've been educated.
Nope.... fuck it let er rip... and please post AFTER pics. LOL
yeah…water…has society gotten so lazy that we can’t be bothered to add one single fucking ingredient for a product to be installed properly… nails?! we don’t need no fucking nails to frame…we’re just gonna cut everything really really tight and jamb them together really quick
Turns out people in the Stone Age were known to be lazy, since they did not use nails either. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06557-9
Those dumbasses didn’t even know what a nail was
Yet they'd nail you with a rock
Convenience serves the individual
Look in to joinery construction in Japan, Sherlock.
If they’re doing “dry pours” instead of the correct method, what makes you think they’d be interested in the effort of joinery??
That's not the point whatsoever, Holmes. If the average person had to make one cut out of a dovetail, they'd end up just gluing two butt ends together. The point is it's a two-step process where they skip step one.
Dry pour is like a dry fuck just don't do it
now i can relate!!
lol, yup. I get it now.
Yeah you need to put someone there who actually knows what they're doing.
Please post pictures of the finished product.
yeah. water. dont do dry pour. its a shitty "hack" that works for decorative stuff if you dont mind it cracking and flaking in five years. dont use it for anything you're going to walk or stand on.
Seriously. Don’t do dry pours. They’re the flat earthers of the concrete world.
Dont dry pour. Please dont fucking dry pour. Please do not dry pour. Please dont do it. Please.
Imma go dry pour some aircrete blocks so I can start building my $500 off grid zero waste tiny home just to spite you. I'll post update vids on my van life YouTube channel that has 14 subscribers. This is gonna be huge...
Fuck
Seriously don’t fucking dry pour.
Is that a double dare?
No. Don't dry pour.
Dry pour is like sticking your dick in crazy. At best it's fun but not worth the grief. If you want a shitty slab that won't pass a home inspection go right ahead.
I double quadruple dare you
If your are like me and don't give two shits about quality, let er rip
I triple dog dare you!
What is dry pour? You don't mix it before hand?
Lay out dry and then wet it with a hose. It is a stupid tiktok trend.
Dry pour? Water really isn’t that expensive.
Just let the dipshit do it. It’s not our property or our problem lol
Tape plastic over the existing concrete for about a foot. Add rebar dowels. And mix the concrete according to the instructions.
Expansion fiber and don’t dry pour
This
Is dry pouring where they just dump the material out and hose it down? If that's your level of intelligence I say fucking send it and make sure to take pics haha I gotta see this
Dry pour with videos and pics, please.
I agree with everyone here that is saying dry concrete making is dumb. It will fail no matter what you do. If you were to pour concrete, I would recommend drilling #4 dowels @ 12”o/c, epoxy in place, and then cover the exposed end w/ a Sika Speed Dowel. Use 3/8” - 1/2” expansion felt against the old slab. Once the new slab is cured ~28days, put a backer rod and sealant bead at the joints between the slab. Because this is slab on grade you should use green bar. If you don’t put in the dowels, you risk differential settlement that will create a trip hazard. If you don’t use the expansion felt, speed dowels, or green bar you risk damaging one of the slabs in the form of spalling from the shrinkage of the new slab and/or rust jacking of the dowels.
Great answer Edit: not sarcastic. This really is a solid answer, especially to other who may be reading this post.
How about you rent a fucking paddle mixer for like $100 and save yourself a lot of grief. You can mix 3 bags at a time in about as much time as you can add the water.
If u don’t want the slabs lifting and creating a lip over time u need to drill and put rebar In The existing slab, and please for the love of god do not dry pour
https://www.homehardware.ca/en/4-x-50-concrete-expansion-joint/p/2730210 Any product like this. If there’s a perforated strip in it for tearing off nearer to one edge, that’s the top so you can tear it off after the concrete cures and put a 2-component caulk joint in the top of the gap between slabs.
Probably a sheet of plastic so they don't stick.
Distance
Yes!
You're Good!!!
Looks good from my house...
If you seriously intend to drypour make sure you have grass fibers and some tree roots growing so the concrete has some natural god given fibers to grab on to.
😵💫
Expansion joint
Water
No matter what the videos on the Internet say, dry pouring is not a good way to install concrete.
Please feel the love of God don't dry pour.
I would do the dry pour thing. This way a professional can charge more to tear out and fix properly.
I don't understand this fascination with dry pour these days. The only way to be sure you have all the powder properly wetted down is to mix it and then pour it in (or shovel it in) to the final position and then smooth it all down. It's a little more work but vastly better and more consistent results.
You can put stacks of $20 bills between the pours. Then, when you hire another ci tractor to come and tear it all out and replace it, they get paid as they go.
I’ve had professional concrete guys tell me to put plastic over the existing I’m enlarging a walkway myself but I’m gonna pour straight over top of the existing!
“Dry pour” is just a lack of effort and waste of materials. Don’t do it!
I decided not to dry pour thanks to all the concerns. I had a pro come in a buggy some concrete to my back yard. I will always have buyers regret, but that is probably better than installers remorse.
You do. But research it. No different than dry pouring over an existing slab. You need to get the ph right.
Sheetrock strips…the purple Sheetrock since it’ll be getting wet…