Hope he survived! Was probably also the correct decison: If he ran away, the guy would probalby have shot him more. If he managed to keep a grip on the gun, and his buddy arrived in time, he may have saved himself, or at least his buddy.
Would appriciate it if someone had more info on that one! (did not see it at first, thanks guys! [https://en.haberler.com/the-customer-caused-terror-with-a-shotgun-during-1963145/](https://en.haberler.com/the-customer-caused-terror-with-a-shotgun-during-1963145/) ).
So last news was the guy shot in the abdomen is in the ICU and still in critical conditon.
I don't think he got shot at all. His shirt is being blown around by the expanding gasses coming from the barrel.
The guy isnt bleeding at all, if he was shot there definitely would be some blood leaking and smearing on the floor as he wrestles the shooter, especially with an elevated heart rate.
The shooter isn't aiming at all either. A shotgun at that distance has an extremely tight spread. It absolutely has to be deliberately aimed in order to hit. Indexing your body toward the target and blasting from the hip will not ensure a hit.
It was bird shot and he was also shot twice in the abdomen. Bird shot has much smaller pellets than your average buckshot.
At that range though this guy probably looks like Swiss cheese under those clothes. The pellets wouldn't have spread much at all.
Immediately after the moment that a person is shot or stabbed, there may not be that much blood, especially in amounts that a camera can see. I think it's a combination of the the body's nervous system going into shock, blood draining from the area for the moment, as well as swelling at the immediate location keeping the wound small and constricting the area (directly hitting a large artery or a vein would be def different tho).
It's why most of the time if there's a shooting or a large destructive event, paramedics will request people go with them for a full body check. Some people when wounded in a certain way won't show much blood, or any blood at all, but they are bleeding very heavily internally.
In a lot of these videos where people are shot, a large number of them don't have any blood at all. It might be because the really bloody ones gets scrubbed from the net immediately, but who knows.
Plenty of people have been killed by bird shot. Nobody should be under the impression that if they get blasted by bird shot at ten meters, they're gonna walk away from it.
What does buckshot have to do with any of this?
Look up image results for "bird shot wound" and find many instances of irreparable holes left in the corpses of people blasted with bird shot.
right, had a huge argument with a friend about this recently. idk why people have this misconception that bird shot is somehow not lethal? its still a fucking 12 gauge. bird shot SHREDS skin. even from a decent range, 1 or 2 blasts will absolutely annihilate you.
this seems to be a pretty common thought too because ive been seeing it online lately after that discussion. many people just assume bird shot somehow wont kill someone. those tiny balls will just tear your skin apart, enter your body and create little holes in your organs. its 100% just as lethal as buck. less stopping power but still lethal.
oh yeah, forgot to add. try getting bird shot removed from your body. maybe it wont kill you then but it will kill you later. if its normal birdshot and made of lead. your xray will light up like a christmas tree. good luck with the lead poisoning because its gonna be a bitch playing operation with a grip of little pellets before the lead gets into your blood stream.
Dont you know to redditors nothing is impressive, if dude tanked a slug they would say- not a .50 cal.
This person could tank a tank round and keep going and it would not be impressive to some people.
whoever downvoted Stoneteer is a moron
he never said that birdshot wouldn't kill a person
what he did imply, with context being a guy still on his feet and being able to fight it out after being shot by it, that it doesn't have much stopping power
ya morons
There isn't a drop of blood. If he did actually get hit with a bird load from about ten feet away, it would have left a giant hole in his body.
I shoot shotguns quite a bit, I'm under the impression that he didn't get hit square-on despite it looking like it in the video.
first you reply to the guy fully embracing it, now you're denying bird shot :)
what's next, if I ask you what is it if not birdshot, you're gonna say rubber bullets? lmfao
[https://youtu.be/Yaevjjjt-3U?t=409](https://youtu.be/Yaevjjjt-3U?t=409)
now you're arguing that blood would be everywhere from these lmfao (he used "high brass birdshot, more powerful than clay pigeon target loads", his words)
load some more hypocrisy fuckwad
two points:
1) I don't need to watch your video, I shoot animals with shotguns and know from experience that if the guy in the video got hit in the torso from the distance in the video, he'd be having some real serious physiological problems. If you're too inexperienced with shooting living things with shotguns to realize this, maybe save some face and move on.
2) There's really no reason to speak to me that way. It's a video and none of us have all the details. You seem like an unhinged keyboard warrior right now, and I promise you wouldn't talk to me that way to my face so why do it here? Chill dude.
Ok? So you're saying most people could take 2 rounds of it POINT FUCKING BLANK and still have the balls/ strength to fight the guy That shot him? I doubt it. That dude is mad lad *for sho*.
He did everything right, according to etiquette.
Fueled by passion undoubtedly, but it may have saved him if he ends up pulling through.
Keep in mind that I can't see what's not on camera and that the victim doesn't seem to be armed, but...
He immediately closed the distance, making a one-sided fight two-sided. Though this is innately dangerous and should be a last resort only, if you can't fire back and don't have cover or a way to remove yourself from the danger, this is the next logical thing to do.
Either way, FUCKIN... BRAVISSIMO. This guy fucks.
Though I do wonder if he had the following:
A quick escape off screen
A gun that he couldn't grab for some reason
Any loved ones in the building
(Just curious)
I mean, honestly, there are a lot of 12g rounds out there or any other Guage for that matter.
Could have been anything from rock salt, bird shot, or a homemade load. The latter is less likely I'd bet.
Adrenaline can do crazy things to your body when experiencing trauma and literally has a program built into to keep you alive for longer in situations that are deemed a threat to your existence. "Fight or flight"
However a slug is a slug is a slug. Supersonic ballistics show that bullets do "weird" things when they enter the body above a speed of approximately 1,100 feet per second. A slug is just an extra big azz 1oz bullet. And the average velocity of a 12g slug is around like 1,500fps(?) So I'd expect nothing different.
But, the size and velocity of the round would surely remove a percentage of his body due to the expansion of a temporary cavity alone. Zero chance it was a slug. I'm leaning towards bird shot with a really low grain.... max.
If I had to use my powers of deduction, I'd probably say the guy who's in critical condition from being shot in the abdomen is the one we saw be shot at point blank 3 times roughly in the abdomen.
It's amazing how ineffective birdshot can be. Crazy that birdshot can leave you in pain but still up, while buckshot will remove part of your body from existence.
And this is why buckshot is loaded for predator safety in bear country. Even then it doesn't usually 1 shot em unless you get lucky so you're taught to pump all your rounds until they stop moving
There’s not enough to be able to tell in this short clip. He could have been a buck or maybe even a slug. We need more context before we can say for sure. It does, however, look like he was, in fact, not a bird.
It's actually some little pit breed. A strange little mutated one like what you see in North America a lot. Poor little fella had no aggression despite the situation!
Lol dude uses what I imagine is birdshot practice rounds and rapid hipfires thinking he is about to John Wick the place. Guy has seen too many movies and spent far too little time at the range.
Yeah, Hollywood and videos games have shown that anyone hit with a shotgun blast must go flying at least 30 feet back and usually through a window, glass display case or a stack of boxes.
If you are in this situation and can't get the person disarmed but can cock the gun it will eject surplus shells limiting the capacity for additional danger.
That dude took 2 partial blasts from a shotgun and still had the strength to battle it out. Absolute warrior.
Maybe it’s rock salt? Either way dude is a fuckin boss
Adrenaline is one hell of a drug
Hope he survived! Was probably also the correct decison: If he ran away, the guy would probalby have shot him more. If he managed to keep a grip on the gun, and his buddy arrived in time, he may have saved himself, or at least his buddy. Would appriciate it if someone had more info on that one! (did not see it at first, thanks guys! [https://en.haberler.com/the-customer-caused-terror-with-a-shotgun-during-1963145/](https://en.haberler.com/the-customer-caused-terror-with-a-shotgun-during-1963145/) ). So last news was the guy shot in the abdomen is in the ICU and still in critical conditon.
I don't think he got shot at all. His shirt is being blown around by the expanding gasses coming from the barrel. The guy isnt bleeding at all, if he was shot there definitely would be some blood leaking and smearing on the floor as he wrestles the shooter, especially with an elevated heart rate. The shooter isn't aiming at all either. A shotgun at that distance has an extremely tight spread. It absolutely has to be deliberately aimed in order to hit. Indexing your body toward the target and blasting from the hip will not ensure a hit.
https://en.haberler.com/the-customer-caused-terror-with-a-shotgun-during-1963145/ Looks like the guy was shot twice.
But Zumoshitekato said he wasnt though.
It was bird shot and he was also shot twice in the abdomen. Bird shot has much smaller pellets than your average buckshot. At that range though this guy probably looks like Swiss cheese under those clothes. The pellets wouldn't have spread much at all.
Yah 00 buck and he has a dinnerplate sized hole in his abdomen.
At close range, bird shot is pretty much as effective on a human body due to the tight cluster of pellets.
Immediately after the moment that a person is shot or stabbed, there may not be that much blood, especially in amounts that a camera can see. I think it's a combination of the the body's nervous system going into shock, blood draining from the area for the moment, as well as swelling at the immediate location keeping the wound small and constricting the area (directly hitting a large artery or a vein would be def different tho). It's why most of the time if there's a shooting or a large destructive event, paramedics will request people go with them for a full body check. Some people when wounded in a certain way won't show much blood, or any blood at all, but they are bleeding very heavily internally. In a lot of these videos where people are shot, a large number of them don't have any blood at all. It might be because the really bloody ones gets scrubbed from the net immediately, but who knows.
Confidently incorrect
Bird shot
Plenty of people have been killed by bird shot. Nobody should be under the impression that if they get blasted by bird shot at ten meters, they're gonna walk away from it.
Exactly, at that range, it's still tightly packed. Spead isn't like Call of duty.
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What does buckshot have to do with any of this? Look up image results for "bird shot wound" and find many instances of irreparable holes left in the corpses of people blasted with bird shot.
I did as you said, and wish I hadn't.
right, had a huge argument with a friend about this recently. idk why people have this misconception that bird shot is somehow not lethal? its still a fucking 12 gauge. bird shot SHREDS skin. even from a decent range, 1 or 2 blasts will absolutely annihilate you. this seems to be a pretty common thought too because ive been seeing it online lately after that discussion. many people just assume bird shot somehow wont kill someone. those tiny balls will just tear your skin apart, enter your body and create little holes in your organs. its 100% just as lethal as buck. less stopping power but still lethal. oh yeah, forgot to add. try getting bird shot removed from your body. maybe it wont kill you then but it will kill you later. if its normal birdshot and made of lead. your xray will light up like a christmas tree. good luck with the lead poisoning because its gonna be a bitch playing operation with a grip of little pellets before the lead gets into your blood stream.
Dont you know to redditors nothing is impressive, if dude tanked a slug they would say- not a .50 cal. This person could tank a tank round and keep going and it would not be impressive to some people.
whoever downvoted Stoneteer is a moron he never said that birdshot wouldn't kill a person what he did imply, with context being a guy still on his feet and being able to fight it out after being shot by it, that it doesn't have much stopping power ya morons
There isn't a drop of blood. If he did actually get hit with a bird load from about ten feet away, it would have left a giant hole in his body. I shoot shotguns quite a bit, I'm under the impression that he didn't get hit square-on despite it looking like it in the video.
first you reply to the guy fully embracing it, now you're denying bird shot :) what's next, if I ask you what is it if not birdshot, you're gonna say rubber bullets? lmfao [https://youtu.be/Yaevjjjt-3U?t=409](https://youtu.be/Yaevjjjt-3U?t=409) now you're arguing that blood would be everywhere from these lmfao (he used "high brass birdshot, more powerful than clay pigeon target loads", his words) load some more hypocrisy fuckwad
two points: 1) I don't need to watch your video, I shoot animals with shotguns and know from experience that if the guy in the video got hit in the torso from the distance in the video, he'd be having some real serious physiological problems. If you're too inexperienced with shooting living things with shotguns to realize this, maybe save some face and move on. 2) There's really no reason to speak to me that way. It's a video and none of us have all the details. You seem like an unhinged keyboard warrior right now, and I promise you wouldn't talk to me that way to my face so why do it here? Chill dude.
I downvoted both him and you. What do you think about that smarty pants?
you really have to ask? I am not surprised... since it's typical for someone that can be described by that word
Dick Cheney’s hunting buddy would like a word.
Ok? So you're saying most people could take 2 rounds of it POINT FUCKING BLANK and still have the balls/ strength to fight the guy That shot him? I doubt it. That dude is mad lad *for sho*.
…at ridiculously close range. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
Bird shot a close range will make a hole the size of a golf ball
Yeah, the BBs are so close together that they might as well be a slug.
Cool guy here would just take birdshot and walk it off. Amazing.
Mate, at that range an air-rifle can and will kill you.
That dog was like Hey man what the Fuck!
Lets be honest, it was very impressive the guy kept running after taking those shots. Im surprised he was able to run that fast with balls that big..
He did everything right, according to etiquette. Fueled by passion undoubtedly, but it may have saved him if he ends up pulling through. Keep in mind that I can't see what's not on camera and that the victim doesn't seem to be armed, but... He immediately closed the distance, making a one-sided fight two-sided. Though this is innately dangerous and should be a last resort only, if you can't fire back and don't have cover or a way to remove yourself from the danger, this is the next logical thing to do. Either way, FUCKIN... BRAVISSIMO. This guy fucks. Though I do wonder if he had the following: A quick escape off screen A gun that he couldn't grab for some reason Any loved ones in the building (Just curious)
What I'm wondering is did he get shot with slugs, buckshot or birdshot?
If it was anything other than birdshot, he would not have made it to the shooter.
Possibly but he could have shot him with slugs and missed all the shots
Sure
I mean, honestly, there are a lot of 12g rounds out there or any other Guage for that matter. Could have been anything from rock salt, bird shot, or a homemade load. The latter is less likely I'd bet. Adrenaline can do crazy things to your body when experiencing trauma and literally has a program built into to keep you alive for longer in situations that are deemed a threat to your existence. "Fight or flight" However a slug is a slug is a slug. Supersonic ballistics show that bullets do "weird" things when they enter the body above a speed of approximately 1,100 feet per second. A slug is just an extra big azz 1oz bullet. And the average velocity of a 12g slug is around like 1,500fps(?) So I'd expect nothing different. But, the size and velocity of the round would surely remove a percentage of his body due to the expansion of a temporary cavity alone. Zero chance it was a slug. I'm leaning towards bird shot with a really low grain.... max.
First, try to run. If that's not possible, hide. If that's also not an option, your last resort is to fight back against the gunman.
adrenaline is a hell of a drug
Eh, the balls in birdshot are pretty small, they probably wouldn’t slow him down much. /s
This. For real. This tat shop beef must've been intense AF. Like super Karen's on crystal meth at an HOA meeting- level fued.
Hehehehehe big balls
Had to be birdshot and partially missed, still impressive as fuck.
He ate that
Did he use a spoon or a fork
His face
Apparently bird shot ain't shit to a full grown man
https://en.haberler.com/the-customer-caused-terror-with-a-shotgun-during-1963145/ He's in critical condition after getting hit in the abdomen.
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If I had to use my powers of deduction, I'd probably say the guy who's in critical condition from being shot in the abdomen is the one we saw be shot at point blank 3 times roughly in the abdomen.
It's amazing how ineffective birdshot can be. Crazy that birdshot can leave you in pain but still up, while buckshot will remove part of your body from existence.
And this is why buckshot is loaded for predator safety in bear country. Even then it doesn't usually 1 shot em unless you get lucky so you're taught to pump all your rounds until they stop moving
I feel like I’d put a slug in last just in case.
birdshot will enter 4inch\~ deep into the body. i use #4 and it goes THRU rabbits and birds. the person will die.
He wasn't a bird.
Well, as far as we know he also wasn't a buck or a slug.
There’s not enough to be able to tell in this short clip. He could have been a buck or maybe even a slug. We need more context before we can say for sure. It does, however, look like he was, in fact, not a bird.
God damn. Take my up vote
Yeah, but birds aren’t real /s
no /s required.
But then how will the dummy’s know?
It/s required
It will kill you slowly, which isn't helpful when Leroy Jenkins is zerging you.
Literally put all his points into vitality
Dude ran at him like players run up to you in battlefield games....
If you take a shell to the body and keep fighting you might be a superhero.
That dog has seen this before
Guy in the white timed his approach well didnt he
Hope the dog is ok
Running unarmed towards a man with a shotgun. That man is either extremely brave, extremely stupid, or both.
Or had something or someone in that building that he valued more than his life.
I love you too, maaaaannnnn😭😭
His fight or flight response is definitely fight!
This is some bowery type stuff.
I want an organized crime, back up Frenchie(bulldog) henchman too. What an adorable intimidation tactic
Did we just witness Devine intervention??
Do you grab the gun or his neck. I’m not going out alone. Get that neck. Hope the brave hero makes it. Giant balls.
He flights to fight.
Dog said- Not my fight bro!!
I was just worried about the French bulldog the whole time
It's actually some little pit breed. A strange little mutated one like what you see in North America a lot. Poor little fella had no aggression despite the situation!
That dog 
Worthless
"Need some ink to cover this up" High pain level works out.
Damn if it was 00 buckshot that dude wouldn’t have been able to run. Bad form on the dude with a gun. What the fuck did he think he’d accomplish?
how he miss?
Surely, that had to be bird shot. That guy just saved his buddies. Hopefully, he makes it.
Heroic to save the well being of other occupants and the 🐕👏🏻🙌🏻
Well now I’m not so upset about my point blank hits in CoD not being as deadly as I think they should be
Tattoos be serious business yo.
Quake 2 vibes
Luke Cage over here
You don't mess with the Zohan.
Life is cheap now….tatoos not so.
Running directly towards a guy shooting a shotgun might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen on this sub. What an absolute moron.
im guessing the victim will have a lot of customers now
Turkish John wick just smashes through it and the man
Doggo was far too chill lol
I cared more about the poor dog in harm's way
Guy with the shotgun had a counterstrike aim moment.
That's what happens when you tattoo a dick on someone's back when they asked for a pic of the president.
bird shot put a softball size hole through my driver side door
This is why you load the guy bird shot birdshot buckshot.
Holy fuck .. 2 point blank shots and still charged the man ... god was on his side
Gunman took the tip from Chapelle. Bird shot bird shot buck shot.
Turkish Terminator
Lol dude uses what I imagine is birdshot practice rounds and rapid hipfires thinking he is about to John Wick the place. Guy has seen too many movies and spent far too little time at the range.
Idc what anyone says but parlor warriors are fucking cool
Imagine what the dude that was blasting that shotgun was thinking. “This mf is a terminator? Oh shit!!”
Who he had a dispute with
What?
Seems reasonable
What was the shop ?
if those were blanks it still was crazy
where is the rest?
Blanks?
birdshots
wow that is sick
Turkish stormtrooper
How’d he not die?
Maybe don't run towards the guy shooting you with the shotgun?
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Did he miss that close with a shotgun?
Man took 2 rounds of partial pellets and still kept whooping ass. Good for him, even if he didn’t last afterwards
Did bro tank those shots???
Had to be rock salt.
dog chillin
Thank god it was a shitty turkish shotgun or someone could have been hurt!
Bro is a chad
Doggy
I am surprised the turkey made shotgun actually shot.
How do you miss Someone with a shotgun at that distance?
He didn't miss. Bird shot.
Duly noted. The lesson here is: if you’re not hunting birds, don’t use birdshot.
Yeah, Hollywood and videos games have shown that anyone hit with a shotgun blast must go flying at least 30 feet back and usually through a window, glass display case or a stack of boxes.
He didn’t miss. He’s in critical condition after being shot in the abdomen according to the article linked above.
Did he miss the side of a barn?
Yep, missed the barn and hit the person
If you are in this situation and can't get the person disarmed but can cock the gun it will eject surplus shells limiting the capacity for additional danger.
The dog is the real victim here.
A
and people wonder why cops magdump jesus, this guy just ate so many shots
Those are Bird shots(pretty useless on full grown humans), Buck shots would have painted that parlour red.
So why is he in critical condition?
May be internal bleeding due to unlucky close range impact on some organ. But those are not Buck Shots.
Bird shot will do serious damage at close range.
He missed. Look at the corner of the black seat on the right. Even if it was birdshot, it would kill you instantly from this distance.
He's wounded and in critical condition. He got shot in the abdomen.
You’re big dumb
It would have been more efficient to just say “I don’t know what I’m talking about”.