The sun already rotates very fast (& may have roated even faster in the past) anything large enough peices ejected from the sun structure would maintain a prograde orbit and would still be locked to it gravitational and would not necessarily have escape velocity to exit the solar system... and would simply continue to be hauled by the sun as it circumnavigates the wider galaxy in perpetuity
All momentum and inertial motion would be conserved both in angular sense and linear sense
To know the answer look up S and R processes. Stars don’t make heavier elements than lead until they die and explode pretty much, that’s when heavier elements than lead get made, before that you won’t get them. Our sun hasn’t died ergo…
After it uses up its fuel, different stages use different fuels the last stage forms iron. Supernovas are a rare event though, only the really big ones do this. When a supernova does happen though you end up getting these heavier than lead elements produced in them when neutrons get forced into nuclei.
I guess that’s all it could be called. Being round, the bottom end wouldn’t exist, unless it pooped like an owl purging a pellet, so no star is shitting out a planetoid.
Unfortunately, no. There’s a limit to what elements can be produced through fusion in a star. In order to get the heaviest elements, you have to have supernovae.
To be fair, there may indeed be some heavier elements in our sun that originated from the end of other stars, but these would be found at the very center, and it would be incredibly unlikely for them to ever make their way out of the center.
The elements that can be produced via fusion in a star are helium, carbon, oxygen, neon, magnesium, silicon, sulfur, argon, calcium, titanium, chromium, and iron. And the heaviest elements are only produced later in the star’s life. If any gold is to be found in our sun, it was not made by our sun, and would be located deep in it’s core. In order to extricate said gold from the sun, you’d need a force strong enough to overcome the sun’s gravitational force at it’s core. The fusion happening at the sun’s core can not create enough energy to exert such a force (which is why the sun remains in tact instead of going supernova).
Those heavier elements won’t ever be leaving our sun, at least not while it remains a star. And the idea that the Earth’s material would have originated in our sun is simply not physically possible.
Of course they never left the sun, i never implied that.
However, there are hipothetical megastructures that can take material out from stars (starlifting)
All of the theoretically possible methods of starlifting work by increasing the output of solar wind. Which is almost entirely made up of individual protons and electrons, trace amounts of the elements actually produced via stellar fusion, and even fewer traces of other elements found in the sun. The amount of gold you could possibly extract that way would be minuscule and not worth the gargantuan amounts of energy necessary. You’d be way better off just mining asteroids for it. Way cheaper, and you’d get a lot more of it.
Assuming it actually makes it into the sun and isn’t just blown away by the solar winds, nothing spectacular. It would just eventually make its way deeper into the sun until it reached the center. The pressure and heat there isn’t enough to fuse uranium with anything else. I’m not a chemist, so I’m not sure what kind of chemical reactions (if any) may happen between it and the other material in there. If it and/or everything else in there is a plasma, then no chemical reactions would be possible, and the uranium nuclei would just sit there. It may still decay into other elements though. Not entirely sure how the heat and pressure would effect radioactive decay (or even if it effects it at all).
Exactly the sheeps came in with no new thought, didnt even entertain or ponder the idea and just all said no ... like they themselves have seen the inside of a star and know for sure the limits of what a star can achieve or produce under all conditions ...
That's the sad state of the world and science unfortunately
It sad too especially since this community is more on the alternative side of thing so imagine if I asked it in some of the more larger mainstays of reddit lol
oh? well i guess mainstream people say that the earth is not a massive alien shit, so that means its right!! I'm starting a new religion based on this idea called Shiitism, Dm me if you want to become a shitist!
The sun already rotates very fast (& may have roated even faster in the past) anything large enough peices ejected from the sun structure would maintain a prograde orbit and would still be locked to it gravitational and would not necessarily have escape velocity to exit the solar system... and would simply continue to be hauled by the sun as it circumnavigates the wider galaxy in perpetuity
All momentum and inertial motion would be conserved both in angular sense and linear sense
Assuming no external forces like rocket thrusters and interactions with other bodies, we are left with two-body system. The trajectory of an object traveling in the gravitational field of the sun can be parabolic, hyperbolic or elliptical/circular.
Object on a parabolic or hyperbolic trajectory leaves the solar system. The elliptical/circular trajectories intersect themselves. Thus an object without rocket thrusters ejected from the Sun either leaves the Solar System or falls back onto the Sun.
Multi-body orbital dynamics are highly chaotic and are very unlikely to result in the neat circular orbits of the planets.
Has any rocket, satellite or spacecraft launched by humanity reach the escape velocity to escape the gravity of the sun; or have all objects launched by humanity still being towed by the sun along with all the planets
I don't see how that is related to solar mass ejections.
Voyager 1, Voyager 2, New Horizons are the man-made probes that I know of that are on the escape course from the Solar system.
The entirety of the solar system move as one in unison almost like an extension of the sun itself as it moves around the milky way galaxy... a rock can go a slingshot maneuver with Jupiter because Jupiter is not being left behind by the sun ... so nothing you know has ever escaped the gravity of the sun
It all still trapped next to the sun and moving with the sun
Probes like Voyager 1 will never return to the Sun unless some external force affects their trajectory. Gravity has technically an infinite reach, so you cannot escape the gravity of the Sun or any other star for that matter.
Regarding the original topic; planets cannot be coronal mass ejection for two reasons:
1. You cannot put and object into a circular or near circular orbit around a star/planet by throwing it from the surface without external force such as a rocket engine, as you can only throw an object in a trajectory that will never return to the Sun or a trajectory that will close back on itself. \[1\]
2. Coronal mass ejections launch on the order of 10^(12) kg \[2\], but even a small body like Pluto has mass in the order of 10^(22) kg \[3\].
\[1\] [https://history.nasa.gov/conghand/traject.htm](https://history.nasa.gov/conghand/traject.htm)
\[2\] [https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/coronal-mass-ejections](https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/coronal-mass-ejections)
\[3\] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto#Mass\_and\_size](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto#Mass_and_size)
Let me come clear is why you and I will always disagree... I clearly dont believe in relativistic Mechanics... as a result I dont see star formation or planet formation in the box you do ... I dont see clouds collapsing and accretion disc with planets forming within as real things
As a result... I see the planet coming from the star ... so too the asteroid belt... they kipper belt object and oort cloud object all original coming from the sun itself
And sun basically still haul all this debris along as it traverse the galaxy... and these objects remain gravitationally tethered to the sun and move in unison within ... rather than be shed in a debris trail
It came in several stages
1 George Darwin son of Charles Darwin believe that the moon came from inside of the earth... as in it is a peice of the earth that split off long ago
2 this would mean that the earth once rotate much faster and was much hotter ... which means the planet had to be like plasma in those early stages and that's only possible if it was a peice of a star... either from the sun or the Wolf Rayet star that made the sun
3 Edwin Hubble's main theory but
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not what he is most famous for is that galaxies evolve... elliptical galaxies are what violent become quazar and then eventually transition to spiral galaxies... quasar are entire galaxies trying to collapse in on themselves due to gravity but fail due to the magnetic effect of plasma and the nuclear changes that such extreme heat and thermal decomposition would cause
4 only one singularity can and had ever exist and it was the thing that later became the big bag ... it was the only thing with infinity density, had all the energy had all the mass and all the gravity that universe and and has produce ... and all that we are seeing around us it that thing splitting itself apart ...
Has such the big bag never spread via minute particle that later cool to become hydrogen
Instead it slip as massive galactic cluster size fiery mass that slip to make the first and oldest elliptical galaxies
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The sun continually haul all the objects as it move across the camsos ... why aren't all these thing collapsing towards the center ... because that not really how the universe works
The sun itself is a remnant of much larger star called a Wolf-Rayet star ... so most people dont know that it already have trace amount of very heavy elements within and other trace amounts are still larger than entire planets
The heavier elements are certainly from A sun, but most certainly not our sun. These elements are scattered around the universe when a star explodes
The sun already rotates very fast (& may have roated even faster in the past) anything large enough peices ejected from the sun structure would maintain a prograde orbit and would still be locked to it gravitational and would not necessarily have escape velocity to exit the solar system... and would simply continue to be hauled by the sun as it circumnavigates the wider galaxy in perpetuity All momentum and inertial motion would be conserved both in angular sense and linear sense
Thanks for fact checking me đź‘Ť I wonder what percent of our heavy elements are from our sun and what % are from outside super novae
To know the answer look up S and R processes. Stars don’t make heavier elements than lead until they die and explode pretty much, that’s when heavier elements than lead get made, before that you won’t get them. Our sun hasn’t died ergo…
I thought Iron was the last element made by a star prior to supernova?
After it uses up its fuel, different stages use different fuels the last stage forms iron. Supernovas are a rare event though, only the really big ones do this. When a supernova does happen though you end up getting these heavier than lead elements produced in them when neutrons get forced into nuclei.
That's the type of question I wish people would ask ...
and we shall call it, Sun-burp.
Ok. The internet is done. I’m going home.
I'm good with the name ... it gets the job done
I guess that’s all it could be called. Being round, the bottom end wouldn’t exist, unless it pooped like an owl purging a pellet, so no star is shitting out a planetoid.
Unfortunately, no. There’s a limit to what elements can be produced through fusion in a star. In order to get the heaviest elements, you have to have supernovae. To be fair, there may indeed be some heavier elements in our sun that originated from the end of other stars, but these would be found at the very center, and it would be incredibly unlikely for them to ever make their way out of the center.
There are, the sun contains entire earth masses of heavy elements. If we could take them out somehow we could build planets out of solid gold
The elements that can be produced via fusion in a star are helium, carbon, oxygen, neon, magnesium, silicon, sulfur, argon, calcium, titanium, chromium, and iron. And the heaviest elements are only produced later in the star’s life. If any gold is to be found in our sun, it was not made by our sun, and would be located deep in it’s core. In order to extricate said gold from the sun, you’d need a force strong enough to overcome the sun’s gravitational force at it’s core. The fusion happening at the sun’s core can not create enough energy to exert such a force (which is why the sun remains in tact instead of going supernova). Those heavier elements won’t ever be leaving our sun, at least not while it remains a star. And the idea that the Earth’s material would have originated in our sun is simply not physically possible.
Of course they never left the sun, i never implied that. However, there are hipothetical megastructures that can take material out from stars (starlifting)
All of the theoretically possible methods of starlifting work by increasing the output of solar wind. Which is almost entirely made up of individual protons and electrons, trace amounts of the elements actually produced via stellar fusion, and even fewer traces of other elements found in the sun. The amount of gold you could possibly extract that way would be minuscule and not worth the gargantuan amounts of energy necessary. You’d be way better off just mining asteroids for it. Way cheaper, and you’d get a lot more of it.
What if you throw some Uranium into the sun? What happens to it?
Assuming it actually makes it into the sun and isn’t just blown away by the solar winds, nothing spectacular. It would just eventually make its way deeper into the sun until it reached the center. The pressure and heat there isn’t enough to fuse uranium with anything else. I’m not a chemist, so I’m not sure what kind of chemical reactions (if any) may happen between it and the other material in there. If it and/or everything else in there is a plasma, then no chemical reactions would be possible, and the uranium nuclei would just sit there. It may still decay into other elements though. Not entirely sure how the heat and pressure would effect radioactive decay (or even if it effects it at all).
No.
No.
Molten plasma =/= earth rock
Definitely not
I'm gonna say no. From *a* star yeah. Not our star though
with all the mainstream people saying no, this indicates yes to me. i will guess yes, you are right.
Exactly the sheeps came in with no new thought, didnt even entertain or ponder the idea and just all said no ... like they themselves have seen the inside of a star and know for sure the limits of what a star can achieve or produce under all conditions ... That's the sad state of the world and science unfortunately It sad too especially since this community is more on the alternative side of thing so imagine if I asked it in some of the more larger mainstays of reddit lol
oh? well i guess mainstream people say that the earth is not a massive alien shit, so that means its right!! I'm starting a new religion based on this idea called Shiitism, Dm me if you want to become a shitist!
The mass ejections don't contain enough mass to make up a planet. How would they be inserted into the nearly circular orbit?
The sun already rotates very fast (& may have roated even faster in the past) anything large enough peices ejected from the sun structure would maintain a prograde orbit and would still be locked to it gravitational and would not necessarily have escape velocity to exit the solar system... and would simply continue to be hauled by the sun as it circumnavigates the wider galaxy in perpetuity All momentum and inertial motion would be conserved both in angular sense and linear sense
Assuming no external forces like rocket thrusters and interactions with other bodies, we are left with two-body system. The trajectory of an object traveling in the gravitational field of the sun can be parabolic, hyperbolic or elliptical/circular. Object on a parabolic or hyperbolic trajectory leaves the solar system. The elliptical/circular trajectories intersect themselves. Thus an object without rocket thrusters ejected from the Sun either leaves the Solar System or falls back onto the Sun. Multi-body orbital dynamics are highly chaotic and are very unlikely to result in the neat circular orbits of the planets.
Has any rocket, satellite or spacecraft launched by humanity reach the escape velocity to escape the gravity of the sun; or have all objects launched by humanity still being towed by the sun along with all the planets
I don't see how that is related to solar mass ejections. Voyager 1, Voyager 2, New Horizons are the man-made probes that I know of that are on the escape course from the Solar system.
The entirety of the solar system move as one in unison almost like an extension of the sun itself as it moves around the milky way galaxy... a rock can go a slingshot maneuver with Jupiter because Jupiter is not being left behind by the sun ... so nothing you know has ever escaped the gravity of the sun It all still trapped next to the sun and moving with the sun
Probes like Voyager 1 will never return to the Sun unless some external force affects their trajectory. Gravity has technically an infinite reach, so you cannot escape the gravity of the Sun or any other star for that matter. Regarding the original topic; planets cannot be coronal mass ejection for two reasons: 1. You cannot put and object into a circular or near circular orbit around a star/planet by throwing it from the surface without external force such as a rocket engine, as you can only throw an object in a trajectory that will never return to the Sun or a trajectory that will close back on itself. \[1\] 2. Coronal mass ejections launch on the order of 10^(12) kg \[2\], but even a small body like Pluto has mass in the order of 10^(22) kg \[3\]. \[1\] [https://history.nasa.gov/conghand/traject.htm](https://history.nasa.gov/conghand/traject.htm) \[2\] [https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/coronal-mass-ejections](https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/coronal-mass-ejections) \[3\] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto#Mass\_and\_size](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto#Mass_and_size)
Let me come clear is why you and I will always disagree... I clearly dont believe in relativistic Mechanics... as a result I dont see star formation or planet formation in the box you do ... I dont see clouds collapsing and accretion disc with planets forming within as real things As a result... I see the planet coming from the star ... so too the asteroid belt... they kipper belt object and oort cloud object all original coming from the sun itself And sun basically still haul all this debris along as it traverse the galaxy... and these objects remain gravitationally tethered to the sun and move in unison within ... rather than be shed in a debris trail
Why do you believe that, how did you come to that conclusion?
It came in several stages 1 George Darwin son of Charles Darwin believe that the moon came from inside of the earth... as in it is a peice of the earth that split off long ago 2 this would mean that the earth once rotate much faster and was much hotter ... which means the planet had to be like plasma in those early stages and that's only possible if it was a peice of a star... either from the sun or the Wolf Rayet star that made the sun 3 Edwin Hubble's main theory but https://preview.redd.it/4j63zce4dvga1.jpeg?width=2220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc6200479194d365e4c18d0b0a805867fe82c8d2 not what he is most famous for is that galaxies evolve... elliptical galaxies are what violent become quazar and then eventually transition to spiral galaxies... quasar are entire galaxies trying to collapse in on themselves due to gravity but fail due to the magnetic effect of plasma and the nuclear changes that such extreme heat and thermal decomposition would cause 4 only one singularity can and had ever exist and it was the thing that later became the big bag ... it was the only thing with infinity density, had all the energy had all the mass and all the gravity that universe and and has produce ... and all that we are seeing around us it that thing splitting itself apart ... Has such the big bag never spread via minute particle that later cool to become hydrogen Instead it slip as massive galactic cluster size fiery mass that slip to make the first and oldest elliptical galaxies
https://preview.redd.it/d7gv9iwmdvga1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f243e97b5d3065f121d51ad4fa90b8a330dc0496 The sun continually haul all the objects as it move across the camsos ... why aren't all these thing collapsing towards the center ... because that not really how the universe works
No
No.
No.
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How about gold then? Not made on our planet. been there from creation or delivered?
The sun itself is a remnant of much larger star called a Wolf-Rayet star ... so most people dont know that it already have trace amount of very heavy elements within and other trace amounts are still larger than entire planets
100% no. This simply isn't how planets form nor how any sun operates.