Mr. Bean controversy followed by Zimbabwe vs Pakistan result, is objectively one of the funniest stories in world cup history. Shouldn’t forget this when mentioning unexpected results of 2022. Pakistan making into finals from here, because of Netherlands is surprising too.
Pakistan sent a fake Mr. Bean to Zimbabwe as a prank once and that was used as a point of revenge by the Zimbabwe fans lol.
Edit : Mb for the wording lol. It was a Pakistani guy rather than some guy sent by Pakistan lmao
So much so that the Zimbabwean president (who, lest it be ignored, [is a properly vile bloke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmerson_Mnangagwa#Gukurahundi)) tried to score some free PR points by tweeting about Pak Bean after that match.
>but not as great - no crazy upsets other than AUS getting knocked out on run-rate
Did you miss Zimbabwe vs Pakistan, Ireland vs England games and Netherlands vs SA I am sure most Pakistan fans weren't that positive that They would make the semi final after South Africa beat India
Ireland beating West Indies can’t be considered an upset, we’ve beaten them a number of times now and even won a series there. We annihilated them that day
I agree heavily mainly because before this World Cup I genuinely for the life of me couldn’t remember and still can’t remember a friend showed me Kohli’s 82* clutch against Pak and I genuinely said when the fuck?
What made it so good was that conditions were so different across all of the venues, Trinidad was tough to bat until you got yourself in, Guyana turned a lot, NY was a minefield, Dallas was a really true pitch, St. Lucia and Antigua were fast and gave us runs while Barbados had everyone in the game.
The variation in conditions in West Indies and South Africa make them the best hosts for ICC tournaments for me. It is a shame that the ICC cannot bring in more "local flavor" to the games as the islands have such interesting histories that as an outsider I want to learn more about them.
NY and the US was a cynical cashgrab but the testing conditions and the performance of the US team negated that.
For me personally this was the most fun T20 World Cup after 2007 and the one in Sri Lanka which West Indies won.
The ICC is so thankful to the USA team for saving them because they were probably thinking of some excuse to use and explain why most matches were in New York and not Dallas. The US team exceeding expectations was the thing they were desperately looking for.
I believe that next decade there'll be a T20 World Cup that would be fully hosted by the US. Each MLC team will have their own stadium in a few years and then there's also one stadium that'll begin construction soon in Chicago.
Another thing was the variation in toss decisions.
1. Day matches? Weather is sunny? Pitch might grip and slow with sun beating down. Win toss bat first.
2. Evening matches? Ball might skid on better. Win toss bowl first.
3. Chances of rain? Might be a shortened match. Bowl first.
Don't forget St. Vincent, also a minefield. Also, I'd say Barbados was pretty flat too. These flat pitches tend to be less batting friendly in the day time.
I just didn’t get WC vibes maybe because stadiums were empty except for some Dallas matches and New York match. Timings were off. Should have kept all non-India matches in local times instead.
I don't blame you. It's impossible for most folks to truly understand how difficult it is to get to some of these Caribbean islands. These are *tiny island nations* that we are talking about with maybe 10 flights going in and out daily during the off season. The ideal time for cricket in Caribbean is March - May but no one can dare do anything to piss off the IPL organizers. 🤷🏽♂️ Regardless, when you try to dig and see how many locals as a % of total population saw these matches, maybe your perception will change and you'll appreciate the passion of Caribbean folks a little more.
Majority of matches being day matches didn't help either. When you compare this to the one hosted in India, where the tournament opener was literally greeted by an empty stadium, i think WI nations did a great job. Eng/Aus (a neutral match for locals) group match was on a weekend and was packed with an estimated crowd of 24k for a nation with total population of <300k. That's actually monumental. That's like saying 200k people in New Delhi going to see England/Australia.
For the resources (or lack thereof) that WI nations have, they did a tremendous job hosting the WC and the tourists.
But as far as ICC is concerned we need to bloody stop have a world cup every year. Its a mockery jn the name of sport and that's a big reason why a lot of folks were just not tuned in. They need to switch to 4 year cycle for a T20 WC with them being at the midpoint of the 50 over WC cycle.
Totally agree, I have worked on all the cricket in the west indies the previous two years and it's crazy how poorly connected they are. Every flight we got for TV crew was a charter, 10 flights per day is generous, maybe 1 or 2 per day from each island.
To get to Dominica from Antigua I had to layover on 2 different islands.
Then if you have to fly inter caribeean for any of this your putting your life into their hands. They often cancel or chop and change flights at will. One of mine took off 30 mins without warning causing people to miss it.
It's a beautiful place but an absolute nightmare logistically.
No ferries either.
> They need to switch to 4 year cycle for a T20 WC with them being at the midpoint of the 50 over WC cycle.
Nah, these tournaments (plus the pathway events leading into them) are the only meaningful cricket that Associates are allowed to play. Cutting that in half would be absolutely terrible for the game.
Now if you want to talk about an expanded 4-year league cycle involving FMs and giving AMs regular cricket over that time period, I'd be more open to reducing the top-level events. But as it stands, if you want to get rid of an event, get rid of the Champions Trophy (or better yet, revert it back to the Knockout Cup).
Fair point. I'm all for increasing associate nations' playing time. Every time a team goes to South Africa, include Zimbabwe, Kenya, Uganda and Namibia as stopovers or have more tri series. Same for Europe where England, Ireland, Scotland, and Netherlands should play an annual T20 tournament on the lines of six nations. ICC needs to mandate this and have the test playing nations in each continent play more with the associate nations in their respective continents or have stopover tours.
What I don't want is **The World Cup** to be played every year. Scarcity is a valuable tool especially when it comes to building up excitement. I've been to Football world cup and the Rugby World cup and a crucial element of fan excitement is the wait. Having such a tournament annually just dilutes the prestige of that event.
Either that or ICC then fully commits itself to run on the ice hockey model and commit to creating a T20 "World championship" event every year (excluding those when 50 over World cup is played) where there is a dedicated window for such an event.
There is just too much confusion in Cricket with world cups happening every year and that too in different formats. It's certainly a complex problem for the cricket administrators to figure out but i just think having a world cup every year just dilutes the prestige that is otherwise associated with a tournament of this nature.
Yeah I mean I get that about scarcity. My issue that that FMs seem pretty unlikely to commit to anything more substantial on an ongoing basis (given they already binned the Super League), so realistically it looks like a choice between halving T20I events for Associates, or having slightly too many tournaments.
> It's impossible for most folks to truly understand how difficult it is to get to some of these Caribbean islands.
I realised just how much this was the case when TMS were saying (while broadcasting from Barbados for this very reason) that it was impossible for anyone to get from the England/India semi-final in Guyana to the final in Barbados due to the timings of flights.
Felt pretty crazy to hear that, and for the TO to organise a semi like that having made such a song and dance about pre-arranging teams' group stage venues and Super 8s spots to allow fans to travel to their country's games with less hassle (lmao)
Your calculation for proportional Delhi match attendance is off (it would be like if 6 *million* people showed up to watch a non-India match in Delhi) but I agree to all your other points. We went to watch some matches in Antigua one time (from the US) and had to change three flights to get there.
I know. I wasn't literally calculating the population % for Delhi but just trying to illustrate what a similar situation, realistically speaking, would mean in India.
> Eng/Aus (a neutral match for locals) group match was on a weekend and was packed with an estimated crowd of 24k for a nation with total population of <300k.
That's a huge proportion of the population but how many of those were locals compared to tourists?
Both the semi finals weren't sold out. Getting connections to Guyana from Canada or East Coast were not direct flights and $$$. Flying from Guyana to the finals was a very complex situation as well.
Caribbean world cups have always lacked atmosphere compared to Aus, India or England...
Yes timing was definitely off I mean hardcore cricket fans would have easily watched India matches at 6 am in the morning it felt really weird when India lifted the cup but there were no lights,no fireworks didn’t seem like a final would have been great if ICC for once scheduled matches for local time
It was player under lights untill the second half bcoz of evening and AFAIK it was scheduled for the convenience of both European and American continents still a final played at 10 am local time and a final played at 4 pm local time has lots of difference
The 2007 World Cup final in Barbados was infamously played in the dark while the 2010 T20 World Cup final in Kingtown was also played in daylight. It might just be easier to not have fireworks and floodlights for stadiums in the West Indies, even for finals.
>Should have kept all non-India matches in local times instead.
this killed me as someone local to the new york venue. canada vs ireland at 10:30 on a weekday was such a braindead idea
I'll explain why that match was in the morning. They kept it in the morning because the Nassau County stadium didn't have flood lights so it was literally impossible to host night matches there. Now you like myself and many others will be thinking, why didn't the ICC get flood lights installed or why didn't they just not give that stadium that many matches and the answer is that the ICC loves money and don't care if they're ruining the experience for fans.
I will be die on the hill that matches should always take place according to local time and what's best for the fans attending in person. People who are massive fans will still tune in from India. If you can't attract local fans then the atmosphere at matches will be dead leading to the broadcast experience being mid as well.
The USA vs Canada crowd was electric and as a result I got chills watching that match all the way from India. If the crowd for that was mid then it would've felt like just another match and nobody would've cared.
Yeah, OP's talking nonsense when he said this WC had a great atmosphere.
Only India had consistently large crowds, and their fans ruined the atmosphere with those relentless and insufferable horns anyway.
Did you watch the night matches? The atmosphere in St Vincent for example was amazing. All the crowds for the West Indies matches after their first one was amazing. St Vincent didn't even have a West Indies match and still had ridiculous crowds. The atmosphere in Afghanistan Australia and Afghanistan Bangladesh will always live in my mind. Trinidad and St Lucia were great as well. It's only the day games that didn't have any atmosphere bar the India games but well they're day games
One match that did have a great atmosphere was the USA vs Canada opener match. It was the perfect opener as it had one co-host in it, both teams were new to the tournament and the match swung like crazy with an insane comeback happening in between and the crowd was electric from start to finish.
Compare that to the opener from last year's World Cup where the stadium appeared empty, the match was one sided and the host wasn't even playing. It was so boring and it didn't leave anyone feeling excited about the tournament.
I can't believe India didn't play in Dallas at all. What I've heard from players through articles is that it's a fantastic facility for cricket. Thanks to rain, India didn't even end up playing in Florida either. Really shame for the American fans that aren't close to New York.
No, your comment is somewhat nonsensical too. I happened to be in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex during Week 1 of the World Cup for a conference. Managed to snag a ticket for the Bangladesh-Sri Lanka match from a tout. As a neutral the atmosphere was fantastic - full house (Friday evening…), two loud and passionate crowds, thrilling albeit iffy quality cricket. Definitely got my money’s worth and the Lankan papaare band was on fire even though they lost that night. Perhaps it wasn’t apparent the TV broadcast.
Or just schedule them in for more series against full member teams. With the exception of USA beating Pakistan the associate teams were flogged. They not going to get good by only facing stronger sides once every 2 years in tournaments. Meanwhile, we're diluting the significance of the T20WC as it's played every other year.
Playing the tournament every two years doesn't dilute its significance, it's more of a World Cup than the 10 team tournaments that happened in 2019 and 2023. Also you think I and others don't want to see associate members get to play full members more? We obviously do want to see that but it's not happening any time soon.
Playing in 3 World Cups within an 8 year span is also one of the requirements to get full membership so if you move the T20 World Cup to every four years then it becomes near impossible to complete that criteria.
I propose a better plan for WCs. Conduct the Wc every 4 years with 2 year gaps like the Olympics. In non wc years do wtc and champions trophy in the format of the world cup next year.
For instance
2031 ODI WC
2032 WTC, CT (T20) for top 8 prev T20 WC
2033 T20 WC
2034 WTC, CT (ODI) for top 8 prev ODI WC
2035 ODI WC
> I propose a better plan for WCs. Conduct the Wc every 4 years with 2 year gaps like the Olympics.
You think that ICC and all the other people don't want to do this? They obviously want to. However, to get there - associate cricket has to be self sustainable. It isn't at the moment.
Correct. T20 WC is the only event that many associates who quality look up to and the only event where they get to play the big boys. If the event is held every 4 years, a certain Nepal, USA or Scotland today would be a certain Kenya by that time. A T20 WC every 2 years keeps them engaged and working towards it. 4 Year for be too long a time for some of the players of the associate nations who sometimes do a 2nd job. They would move on to better job opportunities than cricket to get food on the table. 4 year duration for T20I WC for associates is not sustainable. We need more competitive countries in cricket than just the 8-10 full members.
Exactly! I have so many issues with the ICC and full member boards for not giving associates matches against other full members but at least right now once the T20 World Cup is done, the sub regional qualifiers begin immediately and then there's the regional qualifiers and within two years they could be at an ICC tournament.
If the T20 World Cup was moved to happen every two years then they'd have years in between where they're doing nothing other than playing lower ranked associates and by the time the World Cup arrives they'll have new players who have never played against big full members so they won't know what it takes to win.
ICC tournaments in the carribean is always a vibe. Should have held the full tournament there itself. USA is always a good market for sports but they didn't advertise and prepare for the tournament properly over there
Those low scoring matches are true thrilling, up until last ball, the balance is 50-50, Those are the real matches and this one was actually a WORLD cup.
Really want such associates team to fight with bigger teams and try to get them a chance to go ahead
The New York's attendance didn't help. The atmosphere was pretty dead for most matches but the low scoring was actually good because it made things interesting. Unfortunately that was also because the pitch and outfield were unsafe.
For me 2007 will be the best one
It was like a festival of sorts.
Hitting all around the park.
Watching youngsters, without them being overseen by seniors.
Bowl out in ind vs pak match.
Watching cheer leaders for the first time.
The overall atmosphere in south africa was fabulous.
This World Cup had Upsets with USA knocking out Pakistan and Afghanistan knocking out New Zealand and Australia
The gap between Full Members and Associates got narrower as shown by Nepal & Netherlands against South Africa, Scotland against Australia and USA against Pakistan and South Africa
In the end we got two deserved finalists as unbeaten teams and had a cracker of a Final
This World Cup was absolute banger and I enjoyed the Caribbean flavour which really added the glamour needed for this World Cup. Incredibly good to see fairytale story of Afghanistan's chapter which was glorified in this World Cup with a sensational run to semifinals including a stunning win over Australia before a bittersweet ending. All importantly South Africa finally breaking the shackles to reach a UCC World Cup final for the first time by winning tight games one after the other before a gut wrenching defeat in final
India ending their long awaited ICC tournament dream with a resilient comeback powered by Kohli's masterclass for one last time in ultimately his farewell T20I and Rohit signing off with a T20 WC as captain in his final T20I. Suryakumar Yadav making it a memorable by pulling off a breathtaking jaw-dropping catch under pressure.
United States made a huge statement with a shocking win over Pakistan in super over and it probably raised lot of talk about America prospering in cricket and people started to follow US cricket especially started to gain interest among native Americans little by little.
Nepal made rapid strides and making a comeback to ICC senior tournament after a decade and the reception of Nepali fanbase added different vibes to this World Cup. Not to forget Sompal Kami's iconic cult classic 105m six off the bowling of Anrich Nortje which is one of the moments of the World Cup for me. That 6 really gave Nepal a thundering comeback against South Africa which looked like South Africa's game before a heartbreaking defeat.
Not to forget the remarkable victory of Afghanistan over Bangladesh in what looked like rain was trying to play spoilsport in a must win match for either sides and D/L
calculation changed very often in the heat of the contest and Bangladesh were put in a precarious situation whether to go all guns blazing or play it safe to chase low but tricky target but inside 12.1 overs to make it to semifinals. All of sudden looked like Afghanistan was going to choke to gift Australia a lifeline but Afghanistan made a fightback for the ages with a disciplined bowling although their batting was questionable throughout the match.
The early morning start times were a big miss. The Caribbean loves its cricket and you saw them show up when it was later but it did a disservice. If you’re going to cater to the Indian audience so much (who will actually tune in to watch at any time) then why even have a tournament in the Caribbean?
The pitch in NY was bad, another big miss. The organization wasn’t great on the us side.
Having said that we saw some associates doing really well. Afghanistans story was amazing. The vibe in the Caribbean for the night games was incredible (especially West Indies South Africa) and we got a cracking final.
I agree. This is an ICC Cricket “World Cup”. Not an ICC “tournament of 10 teams”.
I hear they’re gonna expand beyond 20 teams after the 2026 T20 WC in India & SL.
> I hear they’re gonna expand beyond 20 teams after the 2026 T20 WC in India & SL.
They want to if it is economically sustainable. It isn't at the moment.
They could if they really wanted to but they almost certainly won't as the rights for the tournament have been sold until the 2030 edition so the next one where they could do expansion is 2032.
The attack on Cummins, Stark and co. by Rohit was insane to watch. Rohit was looking for blood that day, no question about it. The way he decimated the Australian attack was pure violence.
Most men talk their problems out in therapy… Rohit Sharma inflicts the fear of himself into the opposition. I just know when he saw Starc in that over his eyes burned with pure unbridled hatred. 50 in only 17 is diabolical
Two reasons why I felt this WC was good which is contrary to some of the opinions here -
1. The balanced contest between bat and ball. Although the NY pitch occasionally had dangerous uneven bounce, it resulted in some thrilling matches. I'm glad this tournament wasn't like the 200+ run pitches in the IPL, where the focus is all on fours and sixes.
2. While the early morning start wasn't ideal, it did help maintain consistent pitch conditions for both teams. On the other hand, in evening matches, the toss becomes critical, especially due to the dew factor.
What do you mean no upsets in 2022? Zim vs pak. Ire vs eng(dls), ire vs wi, zim vs ire, sco vs wi, Nam vs sl, Ned vs sa
Of course some of these matches were in round 1 and therefore didn't get enough attention. But if anything 2022 cwc had way more upsets than any recent icc event.
Even before the knockouts, it was objectively a great tournament. Lots of thrillers, some fun storylines like US making the Super 8s and Afg making the SF.
I was worried after the 2 SFs that all the knockouts would be non-competitive and sort of ruin things but we got probably the 3rd best final ever featuring contributions from some all-time greats (and future greats) across both sides.
I think this World Cup brought the balance back between bat and ball. iPL got too boring after so many 200+ scores.
Vintage 20-20, 160-170 chases, bowlers having a say, and varied conditions made it an even contest.one of the best world cups in recent times.
I've been watching the IPL since I was a kid and for the first time I felt like not watching any match because it was the same thing in each match and it was so boring.
Yes it was.
Not being biased here. For me this WC peaked during AFG vs BAN when 3 teams were dependent on one result and there were constant ups and downs for all 3 of them throughout the game
2022 had some proper upsets too like Ireland beating England, Nederlands beating South Africa,zimbabwe beating Pakistan, west Indies not reaching super 12.
I like the atmosphere of 2024 almost equally and apart from two boring semi finals, I think everything was right with that world Cup. Would keep both 22 and 24 almost equally with 24 being up just bcoz of more teams and of course bcoz india won.
Man as much as I loved the, I admit, insane comeback from 30 off 30 with a rampaging Klaasen and Killer Miller at the crease, this is not on the same level as Carlos Brathwaite's REMEMBER THE NAME moment or THAT Misbah scoop shot after tonking Joginder for a six. And its absolutely not close to that 2019 ODI WC FINAL SUPER OVER that was decided with a boundary count.
India missed playing a night game in this tournament. Atleast one game should have been organized on a Friday evening (which is Saturday morning for Indian viewers) so that India could've had a night game experience and the stadium would have been SENSATIONAL with the experience. Indian fans will easily wake up at 6AM (even earlier; thats how crazy they are) for India games. Also restricting India to just the New York pitches was unfair at the start. They could've played a game in Dallas where the expat population is even bigger from that state.
The whole tournament felt like it was catered to India and I hated it. You're absolutely right about Grand Prairie Stadium. Literally every match over there was electric so imagine how great it would've been had India played a match there.
I am just here to say that I only had issues with two different timings. As an avid cricket watcher, I wouldn’t mind waking up early or staying up late night to watch matches for a WC tournament. But I understand, that it’s a numbers game for broadcasters. Nevertheless, i would have loved to watch some thrillers like Nepal v SA or Ban vs SL.
Also another personal opinion that only Caribbean can match the vibes of a T20 match in South Africa.
I'd say it was the worst by a mile, all that hype to play in the USA and showcase the game and we either had absolutely awful pitches or a washout. And the scheduling for some teams was absolutely brutal
Haha there is a lot of random shit! The only one I kinda follow is the SA20, because I can actually go to some of the games.
I miss the days when there was more Test cricket.
The 2022 world cup was the crazy one. Sp many upsets, crazy qualifications and electrifying atmosphere. Most importantly the match between India and Pakistan at MCG had an atmosphere never seen before. Just because India got destroyed in semi final doesn't mean the tournament was a dud. Whereas this world cup, I didn't even notice India getting to the final.
No the tourney wasn't a dud, but the Super 12 format kinda felt off. I loved the group stage, but the tourney felt "small". I agree India vs Pak at MCG was quite something.
I feel that this was the most exciting ICC event in a long time. Even if it was low scoring, there was something in it for everyone. With proper focus and application, anyone could succeed, not just the big hitters. T20 became a game of skills and not raw power. And we saw the impact of that: Associate Teams doing well and catching some big boys off-guard. Every team now has things to think about for future as well. Overall a successful and exciting event that has potentially reshaped the world of cricket for years to come.
Doctored footage online showing Suryas foot "touching the rope".
A valid complaint is the boundary toblerone was slightly moved outward, but that's less of intentional cheating and more of an reflection on groundskeeping, and actually very common in cricket.
Doctored footage online showing he touched the rope with his foot. And the boundary being moved (which is a valid complaint, but doesn't mean anything)
Honestly, the games were great. I enjoyed this edition. However, the morning games looked dead... Too many empty seats. But the evening games were a banger, the atmosphere was so much different. Shame that they didn't schedule more evening games.
Also the day games had an off vibe to it. I know it was for monetary reasons and rightly so. But night time T20
under lights have a whole different feel to them.
Also the finals celebration would have been more vibrant with lights, night sky and fireworks
Good:
* The 20 team format is much better
* The USA cricket team basically single-handedly thwarted the ICC's attempts to permanently kill the sport in the country. Scotland also performed well above expectations. As did Canada, who flew under the radar due to the loss to USA, but they were the only team to post a decent total in New York
* Dallas. Great venue for cricket.
* A good reminder that cricket doesn't have to be dominated by the bat.
Bad:
* Scheduling. All aspects. the 10AM starts. Dragging the first group stage out a week too long, due to a refusal to schedule matches between the morning and evening ones.
* (some) Pitches. The New York one was bad enough, but the SA vs AFG semi-final pitch seemed to be a deliberate choice.
* Coverage. The tournament was set up for the worst narratives, and the cricket media duly provided it. From cricinfo constantly regurgitating /r/cricket conspiracy fodder about certain teams. To The Guardian's "Here we are in Dallas, sure is a terrible event here... (USA vs Canada is incredible)... *cough ahem* I MEAN HERE WE ARE IN NEW YORK WHAT A CLUSTERFUCK AMIRITE!?"
* Some teams' performances. Both Full member (NZ, Ireland, Sri Lanka) and Associate (Namibia, Uganda, PNG). PNG particularly because they were so good vs West Indies, then showed nothing for the rest of the tournament.
* The ICC
* There's an alternate universe where there are two well planned world cups in a row, one in USA, one in the Caribbean
Disgusting:
* "pre-seeding"
t20 wc don't get the respect they deserve because icc tournaments are becoming too much repetitive imo
if you take the timeline of 2009-now (a 15 year period) we have had a men's icc tournament every year except 2018 and 2020 out of which there have been 8 t20 wc
2020 was actually a t20wc year but it didn't happen because of obvious reasons, so technically 2018 was the only year which didn't had any scheduled men's icc tournament (women's t20wc did happen in 2018)
i would say the hype dies down because of this a lot of times, scrapping CT and both t20 wc and odi wc should be shifted to a 4 year duration and 2 years of gap between odi and t20 wc
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What controversy? Just because some dumbasses saying that the foot touched the rope doesn't mean its a controversy. These same group of people call the oppositions failed deliberately to win IPL contracts whenever India win a game. These same group of people, particularly from PAK, BD and SL, in combination which can be called as the Losers Trinity, win nothing and then call SA to be generational chokers and India, the chokers of the decade. It's like classes 2nd boy is being called choker by the bottom of the classes because he failed to be the topper!!
I think the USA leg was horribly managed when it came to the pitches and ground. I am not saying we needed a 280-290 wicket but the New York wicket was just horrible, extremely unpredictable bounce and outfield had no pace. It is lucky no-one broke a thumb. Then keeping matches in Florida in peak hurricane season in a ground that had no drainage....we lost games when the sun was beating down because of outfield...that is not on. Same thing with the 2nd SF....you can't roll out a fresh pitch with horrible bounce that nearly took out QDK. These aspects are manageable and I have no idea what was ICC's excuse.
Apart from that no complaints especially since India won :)
One of the worst World Cups ever
Poor pitches, poor marketing, some of the heavyweights performing abysmally.
Even Afghanistan doing amazingly well was a great story.
But then having a semi finalist get bowled out for 56 or whatever it was was shocking.
Pretty atrocious and forgettable tournament all around.
I'll give you poor marketing. But heavyweights being beaten was part of the charm! Afghanistan's story was great - SA dominated them in the semifinal but that just shows that Afg need more experience on the big stage.
The final was also very thrilling. Right up there with Stokes "unintentionally" directing a throw to the boundary in 2019.
No idea, but there was a gap from 2016, and there were supposed to be two in a row : 2020 and 2021. But due to COVID 2020 (Aus/NZ) got pushed to 2022. 2021 was gonna be in India but due to a massive COVID surge in India moved to UAE and Oman.
My biggest issue with this world cup is the lack of games. The players are well capable of playing twice the games in the pool stages. NZ played 3 games in 2 weeks. 120 overs in 2 weeks is less than 2 days of test cricket. The players are capable obviously of playing more. More games I presume means more money. Why not play more?
They ran this tournament purely for the sake of raking in Indian diaspora dollars in the tri-state area.
They have a proper cricket stadium in Florida - they didn’t host India Pak there because NY area has more number of Indians who will be willing to pay money for it than have to travel to Florida.
If ICC really wanted the game to grow in the US - why didn’t it build a stadium in NY area so that they can come back & instead chose a makeshift stadium
Which is pardonable which had a makeshift drop in pitch which was atrocious.
"**Crazy New York pitch**. Reminded me of the India vs SA second test in January 2024 in Cape Town that almost ended in a day. Uneven bounce for days."
\*ALL\* cricket should be played on pitches like that. I'm definitely a Bowlshevik.
The group stages were full of amateur sides , so lack of competitive games . Although the Super 8s made up for it 👏
Decent wc overall . We've experienced the 2021 wc , this was way way better .
At the start of the tournament I was hoping for an India Vs South Africa final as those two teams stood out to me as the best. It's what we got and the final delivered in spades. Kohli goes out the hero that he is but Bumrah my gosh.
The US did well which is good for the state of the game. Associate teams not embarrassed which is fantastic. The gap is closing!
Wish the NY stadium was better quality for T20 but you can't have it all and that's what stood out to me as the black hole on the tournament.
Congrats to Afghanistan for making it to the semi. Sad their performance in the key game wasn't up to par but they got there deservedly.
2024 was worse than I thought it'd be. Maybe it's the lack of upsets, but I was hoping for associates to give more competitions to full members than (most of them) they did. I think 2022 was better imo
I guess Pakistan vs USA, Afghanistan thrashing NZ, Ban beating SL, Afghanistan's wonder run by beating Aus and Ban, don't count?
Also, while these weren't upsets - Scotland almost getting the better of Eng and Aus and Nepal almost sneaking one by SA were thrilling.
Probably the worst WC in cricket history in terms of people watching, talking about it and marketing wise. Didn’t even watch myself. You must be an india fan!
Mr. Bean controversy followed by Zimbabwe vs Pakistan result, is objectively one of the funniest stories in world cup history. Shouldn’t forget this when mentioning unexpected results of 2022. Pakistan making into finals from here, because of Netherlands is surprising too.
I missed that one. What was it ?
Pakistan sent a fake Mr. Bean to Zimbabwe as a prank once and that was used as a point of revenge by the Zimbabwe fans lol. Edit : Mb for the wording lol. It was a Pakistani guy rather than some guy sent by Pakistan lmao
Lol "Pakistan sent" is a funny way to put it. It's not like the government or the PCB sent him lol. It was just a guy who was from Pakistan.
Yeah mb lmao. Lemme correct that 😭
No keep it, it's funny.
Too late unfortunately but lemme edit it again and keep your comment as a note
So much so that the Zimbabwean president (who, lest it be ignored, [is a properly vile bloke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmerson_Mnangagwa#Gukurahundi)) tried to score some free PR points by tweeting about Pak Bean after that match.
>but not as great - no crazy upsets other than AUS getting knocked out on run-rate Did you miss Zimbabwe vs Pakistan, Ireland vs England games and Netherlands vs SA I am sure most Pakistan fans weren't that positive that They would make the semi final after South Africa beat India
Namibia vs Sri Lanka and WI losing to both Ireland and Scotland too. Actually there were far more upsets last time around.
Ireland beating West Indies can’t be considered an upset, we’ve beaten them a number of times now and even won a series there. We annihilated them that day
For some reason 22 wc feels forgettable one Maybe bcz It was right after 21
I agree heavily mainly because before this World Cup I genuinely for the life of me couldn’t remember and still can’t remember a friend showed me Kohli’s 82* clutch against Pak and I genuinely said when the fuck?
Yeah except kohli's 82 and sa vs ned upset I don't remember anything Infact I was even confused in which England even won wc
Those two sixes against Rauf are etched in World Cup history. How do you not remember that?
I don’t even remember the tournament idk why😭
Also because they had to cram it in before the cricketing season in Australia, just because of the upcoming FIFA World Cup.
We are getting way too many world cup at this rate I might couldn't care about them when they come
The T20 World Cup was originally called the World Twenty20 so *technically* it's not a World Cup
Ik ik even I consider odi wc as true and only wc but it's waste to talk about tbh . The fact is true that we are getting icc event every God damn year
Fair, sorry about that
What made it so good was that conditions were so different across all of the venues, Trinidad was tough to bat until you got yourself in, Guyana turned a lot, NY was a minefield, Dallas was a really true pitch, St. Lucia and Antigua were fast and gave us runs while Barbados had everyone in the game.
The variation in conditions in West Indies and South Africa make them the best hosts for ICC tournaments for me. It is a shame that the ICC cannot bring in more "local flavor" to the games as the islands have such interesting histories that as an outsider I want to learn more about them. NY and the US was a cynical cashgrab but the testing conditions and the performance of the US team negated that. For me personally this was the most fun T20 World Cup after 2007 and the one in Sri Lanka which West Indies won.
The ICC is so thankful to the USA team for saving them because they were probably thinking of some excuse to use and explain why most matches were in New York and not Dallas. The US team exceeding expectations was the thing they were desperately looking for. I believe that next decade there'll be a T20 World Cup that would be fully hosted by the US. Each MLC team will have their own stadium in a few years and then there's also one stadium that'll begin construction soon in Chicago.
Another thing was the variation in toss decisions. 1. Day matches? Weather is sunny? Pitch might grip and slow with sun beating down. Win toss bat first. 2. Evening matches? Ball might skid on better. Win toss bowl first. 3. Chances of rain? Might be a shortened match. Bowl first.
Don't forget St. Vincent, also a minefield. Also, I'd say Barbados was pretty flat too. These flat pitches tend to be less batting friendly in the day time.
Barbados I’m sorry is THE T20 pitch a fitting battlefield for the most unpredictable of formats
This is what I imagined the 2023 wc in India was supposed to be. But all the pitches were the same
We didn't celebrate this WC that it deserved. Mainly because: 1. Poor marketing by ICC 2. ODI WC was just 7 months ago.
I just didn’t get WC vibes maybe because stadiums were empty except for some Dallas matches and New York match. Timings were off. Should have kept all non-India matches in local times instead.
I don't blame you. It's impossible for most folks to truly understand how difficult it is to get to some of these Caribbean islands. These are *tiny island nations* that we are talking about with maybe 10 flights going in and out daily during the off season. The ideal time for cricket in Caribbean is March - May but no one can dare do anything to piss off the IPL organizers. 🤷🏽♂️ Regardless, when you try to dig and see how many locals as a % of total population saw these matches, maybe your perception will change and you'll appreciate the passion of Caribbean folks a little more. Majority of matches being day matches didn't help either. When you compare this to the one hosted in India, where the tournament opener was literally greeted by an empty stadium, i think WI nations did a great job. Eng/Aus (a neutral match for locals) group match was on a weekend and was packed with an estimated crowd of 24k for a nation with total population of <300k. That's actually monumental. That's like saying 200k people in New Delhi going to see England/Australia. For the resources (or lack thereof) that WI nations have, they did a tremendous job hosting the WC and the tourists. But as far as ICC is concerned we need to bloody stop have a world cup every year. Its a mockery jn the name of sport and that's a big reason why a lot of folks were just not tuned in. They need to switch to 4 year cycle for a T20 WC with them being at the midpoint of the 50 over WC cycle.
Totally agree, I have worked on all the cricket in the west indies the previous two years and it's crazy how poorly connected they are. Every flight we got for TV crew was a charter, 10 flights per day is generous, maybe 1 or 2 per day from each island. To get to Dominica from Antigua I had to layover on 2 different islands. Then if you have to fly inter caribeean for any of this your putting your life into their hands. They often cancel or chop and change flights at will. One of mine took off 30 mins without warning causing people to miss it. It's a beautiful place but an absolute nightmare logistically. No ferries either.
> They need to switch to 4 year cycle for a T20 WC with them being at the midpoint of the 50 over WC cycle. Nah, these tournaments (plus the pathway events leading into them) are the only meaningful cricket that Associates are allowed to play. Cutting that in half would be absolutely terrible for the game. Now if you want to talk about an expanded 4-year league cycle involving FMs and giving AMs regular cricket over that time period, I'd be more open to reducing the top-level events. But as it stands, if you want to get rid of an event, get rid of the Champions Trophy (or better yet, revert it back to the Knockout Cup).
Fair point. I'm all for increasing associate nations' playing time. Every time a team goes to South Africa, include Zimbabwe, Kenya, Uganda and Namibia as stopovers or have more tri series. Same for Europe where England, Ireland, Scotland, and Netherlands should play an annual T20 tournament on the lines of six nations. ICC needs to mandate this and have the test playing nations in each continent play more with the associate nations in their respective continents or have stopover tours. What I don't want is **The World Cup** to be played every year. Scarcity is a valuable tool especially when it comes to building up excitement. I've been to Football world cup and the Rugby World cup and a crucial element of fan excitement is the wait. Having such a tournament annually just dilutes the prestige of that event. Either that or ICC then fully commits itself to run on the ice hockey model and commit to creating a T20 "World championship" event every year (excluding those when 50 over World cup is played) where there is a dedicated window for such an event. There is just too much confusion in Cricket with world cups happening every year and that too in different formats. It's certainly a complex problem for the cricket administrators to figure out but i just think having a world cup every year just dilutes the prestige that is otherwise associated with a tournament of this nature.
Yeah I mean I get that about scarcity. My issue that that FMs seem pretty unlikely to commit to anything more substantial on an ongoing basis (given they already binned the Super League), so realistically it looks like a choice between halving T20I events for Associates, or having slightly too many tournaments.
> It's impossible for most folks to truly understand how difficult it is to get to some of these Caribbean islands. I realised just how much this was the case when TMS were saying (while broadcasting from Barbados for this very reason) that it was impossible for anyone to get from the England/India semi-final in Guyana to the final in Barbados due to the timings of flights. Felt pretty crazy to hear that, and for the TO to organise a semi like that having made such a song and dance about pre-arranging teams' group stage venues and Super 8s spots to allow fans to travel to their country's games with less hassle (lmao)
Your calculation for proportional Delhi match attendance is off (it would be like if 6 *million* people showed up to watch a non-India match in Delhi) but I agree to all your other points. We went to watch some matches in Antigua one time (from the US) and had to change three flights to get there.
I know. I wasn't literally calculating the population % for Delhi but just trying to illustrate what a similar situation, realistically speaking, would mean in India.
100% agree
> Eng/Aus (a neutral match for locals) group match was on a weekend and was packed with an estimated crowd of 24k for a nation with total population of <300k. That's a huge proportion of the population but how many of those were locals compared to tourists?
I'd say a good 50% of the crowd seemed local. That's still roughly 5% of the entire population coming down to watch a neutral game.
Both the semi finals weren't sold out. Getting connections to Guyana from Canada or East Coast were not direct flights and $$$. Flying from Guyana to the finals was a very complex situation as well. Caribbean world cups have always lacked atmosphere compared to Aus, India or England...
Yes timing was definitely off I mean hardcore cricket fans would have easily watched India matches at 6 am in the morning it felt really weird when India lifted the cup but there were no lights,no fireworks didn’t seem like a final would have been great if ICC for once scheduled matches for local time
That happened because BCCI’s money doesn’t jiggle jiggle, it folds
It's not BCCI money It is Indian market money for broadcasters
What do you think about FIFA 2014 Final kicking off at 4pm local time in Brazil?
It was player under lights untill the second half bcoz of evening and AFAIK it was scheduled for the convenience of both European and American continents still a final played at 10 am local time and a final played at 4 pm local time has lots of difference
The 2007 World Cup final in Barbados was infamously played in the dark while the 2010 T20 World Cup final in Kingtown was also played in daylight. It might just be easier to not have fireworks and floodlights for stadiums in the West Indies, even for finals.
Most games in the US were at 10am on weekdays, no local is going to that lol
>Should have kept all non-India matches in local times instead. this killed me as someone local to the new york venue. canada vs ireland at 10:30 on a weekday was such a braindead idea
I'll explain why that match was in the morning. They kept it in the morning because the Nassau County stadium didn't have flood lights so it was literally impossible to host night matches there. Now you like myself and many others will be thinking, why didn't the ICC get flood lights installed or why didn't they just not give that stadium that many matches and the answer is that the ICC loves money and don't care if they're ruining the experience for fans.
WC could have done with more fans from other playing nations ..
There are only so many fans of the Oman and Papua New Guinea cricket teams that can fill a stadium
I meant Aussie , Saffas , English & Nz fans ..
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I will be die on the hill that matches should always take place according to local time and what's best for the fans attending in person. People who are massive fans will still tune in from India. If you can't attract local fans then the atmosphere at matches will be dead leading to the broadcast experience being mid as well. The USA vs Canada crowd was electric and as a result I got chills watching that match all the way from India. If the crowd for that was mid then it would've felt like just another match and nobody would've cared.
Yeah, OP's talking nonsense when he said this WC had a great atmosphere. Only India had consistently large crowds, and their fans ruined the atmosphere with those relentless and insufferable horns anyway.
Did you watch the night matches? The atmosphere in St Vincent for example was amazing. All the crowds for the West Indies matches after their first one was amazing. St Vincent didn't even have a West Indies match and still had ridiculous crowds. The atmosphere in Afghanistan Australia and Afghanistan Bangladesh will always live in my mind. Trinidad and St Lucia were great as well. It's only the day games that didn't have any atmosphere bar the India games but well they're day games
One match that did have a great atmosphere was the USA vs Canada opener match. It was the perfect opener as it had one co-host in it, both teams were new to the tournament and the match swung like crazy with an insane comeback happening in between and the crowd was electric from start to finish. Compare that to the opener from last year's World Cup where the stadium appeared empty, the match was one sided and the host wasn't even playing. It was so boring and it didn't leave anyone feeling excited about the tournament.
I can't believe India didn't play in Dallas at all. What I've heard from players through articles is that it's a fantastic facility for cricket. Thanks to rain, India didn't even end up playing in Florida either. Really shame for the American fans that aren't close to New York.
Yeah, it has great facilities and because the crowds are closer to the field the atmosphere is great as well unlike in Florida.
Really hope that more tours to West Indies involve games in both Dallas and Florida
No, your comment is somewhat nonsensical too. I happened to be in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex during Week 1 of the World Cup for a conference. Managed to snag a ticket for the Bangladesh-Sri Lanka match from a tout. As a neutral the atmosphere was fantastic - full house (Friday evening…), two loud and passionate crowds, thrilling albeit iffy quality cricket. Definitely got my money’s worth and the Lankan papaare band was on fire even though they lost that night. Perhaps it wasn’t apparent the TV broadcast.
The 2 year cycle for the T20 WC diminishes its significance. Seems as though we have a major tournament evey year and thus my anticipation is less.
It's the best thing to happen to associates. The T20 World Cup needs to happen every two years so that the associates get their opportunities.
Or just schedule them in for more series against full member teams. With the exception of USA beating Pakistan the associate teams were flogged. They not going to get good by only facing stronger sides once every 2 years in tournaments. Meanwhile, we're diluting the significance of the T20WC as it's played every other year.
Playing the tournament every two years doesn't dilute its significance, it's more of a World Cup than the 10 team tournaments that happened in 2019 and 2023. Also you think I and others don't want to see associate members get to play full members more? We obviously do want to see that but it's not happening any time soon. Playing in 3 World Cups within an 8 year span is also one of the requirements to get full membership so if you move the T20 World Cup to every four years then it becomes near impossible to complete that criteria.
I propose a better plan for WCs. Conduct the Wc every 4 years with 2 year gaps like the Olympics. In non wc years do wtc and champions trophy in the format of the world cup next year. For instance 2031 ODI WC 2032 WTC, CT (T20) for top 8 prev T20 WC 2033 T20 WC 2034 WTC, CT (ODI) for top 8 prev ODI WC 2035 ODI WC
I believe the champions trophy needs to be scrapped. We don’t need a white ball ICC tournament every year. ODI WC WTC T20 WC WTC ODI WC
There is low amount of odi so shouldn't be scrapped
> I propose a better plan for WCs. Conduct the Wc every 4 years with 2 year gaps like the Olympics. You think that ICC and all the other people don't want to do this? They obviously want to. However, to get there - associate cricket has to be self sustainable. It isn't at the moment.
Correct. T20 WC is the only event that many associates who quality look up to and the only event where they get to play the big boys. If the event is held every 4 years, a certain Nepal, USA or Scotland today would be a certain Kenya by that time. A T20 WC every 2 years keeps them engaged and working towards it. 4 Year for be too long a time for some of the players of the associate nations who sometimes do a 2nd job. They would move on to better job opportunities than cricket to get food on the table. 4 year duration for T20I WC for associates is not sustainable. We need more competitive countries in cricket than just the 8-10 full members.
Exactly! I have so many issues with the ICC and full member boards for not giving associates matches against other full members but at least right now once the T20 World Cup is done, the sub regional qualifiers begin immediately and then there's the regional qualifiers and within two years they could be at an ICC tournament. If the T20 World Cup was moved to happen every two years then they'd have years in between where they're doing nothing other than playing lower ranked associates and by the time the World Cup arrives they'll have new players who have never played against big full members so they won't know what it takes to win.
That's FAR too much cricket
It's the same being played right now
ICC tournaments in the carribean is always a vibe. Should have held the full tournament there itself. USA is always a good market for sports but they didn't advertise and prepare for the tournament properly over there
Wdym. Dallas was a vibe 🕺 New York had good attendance but the matches were too low scoring, that too repetative.
Those low scoring matches are true thrilling, up until last ball, the balance is 50-50, Those are the real matches and this one was actually a WORLD cup. Really want such associates team to fight with bigger teams and try to get them a chance to go ahead
NY pitch was unfit for cricket matches. We were just lucky no one got injured.
The New York's attendance didn't help. The atmosphere was pretty dead for most matches but the low scoring was actually good because it made things interesting. Unfortunately that was also because the pitch and outfield were unsafe.
Not really. The WC 2007 was bad but this T20 WC definitely showcased what Carribean is all about.
I personally need every World Cup to be held in Windies for the absolute banger WC anthems they make
Every single match at Grand Prairie Stadium was an absolute vibe. The crowds were amazing at those games.
For me 2007 will be the best one It was like a festival of sorts. Hitting all around the park. Watching youngsters, without them being overseen by seniors. Bowl out in ind vs pak match. Watching cheer leaders for the first time. The overall atmosphere in south africa was fabulous.
The horns ruined the TV experience for me.
This World Cup had Upsets with USA knocking out Pakistan and Afghanistan knocking out New Zealand and Australia The gap between Full Members and Associates got narrower as shown by Nepal & Netherlands against South Africa, Scotland against Australia and USA against Pakistan and South Africa In the end we got two deserved finalists as unbeaten teams and had a cracker of a Final
I don't think we should call Afg ones upsets. They're well capable of beating any side on their day
This World Cup was absolute banger and I enjoyed the Caribbean flavour which really added the glamour needed for this World Cup. Incredibly good to see fairytale story of Afghanistan's chapter which was glorified in this World Cup with a sensational run to semifinals including a stunning win over Australia before a bittersweet ending. All importantly South Africa finally breaking the shackles to reach a UCC World Cup final for the first time by winning tight games one after the other before a gut wrenching defeat in final India ending their long awaited ICC tournament dream with a resilient comeback powered by Kohli's masterclass for one last time in ultimately his farewell T20I and Rohit signing off with a T20 WC as captain in his final T20I. Suryakumar Yadav making it a memorable by pulling off a breathtaking jaw-dropping catch under pressure. United States made a huge statement with a shocking win over Pakistan in super over and it probably raised lot of talk about America prospering in cricket and people started to follow US cricket especially started to gain interest among native Americans little by little. Nepal made rapid strides and making a comeback to ICC senior tournament after a decade and the reception of Nepali fanbase added different vibes to this World Cup. Not to forget Sompal Kami's iconic cult classic 105m six off the bowling of Anrich Nortje which is one of the moments of the World Cup for me. That 6 really gave Nepal a thundering comeback against South Africa which looked like South Africa's game before a heartbreaking defeat. Not to forget the remarkable victory of Afghanistan over Bangladesh in what looked like rain was trying to play spoilsport in a must win match for either sides and D/L calculation changed very often in the heat of the contest and Bangladesh were put in a precarious situation whether to go all guns blazing or play it safe to chase low but tricky target but inside 12.1 overs to make it to semifinals. All of sudden looked like Afghanistan was going to choke to gift Australia a lifeline but Afghanistan made a fightback for the ages with a disciplined bowling although their batting was questionable throughout the match.
The early morning start times were a big miss. The Caribbean loves its cricket and you saw them show up when it was later but it did a disservice. If you’re going to cater to the Indian audience so much (who will actually tune in to watch at any time) then why even have a tournament in the Caribbean? The pitch in NY was bad, another big miss. The organization wasn’t great on the us side. Having said that we saw some associates doing really well. Afghanistans story was amazing. The vibe in the Caribbean for the night games was incredible (especially West Indies South Africa) and we got a cracking final.
I agree. This is an ICC Cricket “World Cup”. Not an ICC “tournament of 10 teams”. I hear they’re gonna expand beyond 20 teams after the 2026 T20 WC in India & SL.
No, the rights have been sold till 2031, so no changes
No, it's gonna stay at 20 teams till 2030
> I hear they’re gonna expand beyond 20 teams after the 2026 T20 WC in India & SL. They want to if it is economically sustainable. It isn't at the moment.
They could if they really wanted to but they almost certainly won't as the rights for the tournament have been sold until the 2030 edition so the next one where they could do expansion is 2032.
The attack on Cummins, Stark and co. by Rohit was insane to watch. Rohit was looking for blood that day, no question about it. The way he decimated the Australian attack was pure violence.
It absolutely reminded of Yuvis 2007 innings against Aus!
One of the most finest innings of his career across all formats.
It absolutely reminded of Yuvis 2007 innings against Aus!
Most men talk their problems out in therapy… Rohit Sharma inflicts the fear of himself into the opposition. I just know when he saw Starc in that over his eyes burned with pure unbridled hatred. 50 in only 17 is diabolical
Two reasons why I felt this WC was good which is contrary to some of the opinions here - 1. The balanced contest between bat and ball. Although the NY pitch occasionally had dangerous uneven bounce, it resulted in some thrilling matches. I'm glad this tournament wasn't like the 200+ run pitches in the IPL, where the focus is all on fours and sixes. 2. While the early morning start wasn't ideal, it did help maintain consistent pitch conditions for both teams. On the other hand, in evening matches, the toss becomes critical, especially due to the dew factor.
What do you mean no upsets in 2022? Zim vs pak. Ire vs eng(dls), ire vs wi, zim vs ire, sco vs wi, Nam vs sl, Ned vs sa Of course some of these matches were in round 1 and therefore didn't get enough attention. But if anything 2022 cwc had way more upsets than any recent icc event.
Even before the knockouts, it was objectively a great tournament. Lots of thrillers, some fun storylines like US making the Super 8s and Afg making the SF. I was worried after the 2 SFs that all the knockouts would be non-competitive and sort of ruin things but we got probably the 3rd best final ever featuring contributions from some all-time greats (and future greats) across both sides.
I think this World Cup brought the balance back between bat and ball. iPL got too boring after so many 200+ scores. Vintage 20-20, 160-170 chases, bowlers having a say, and varied conditions made it an even contest.one of the best world cups in recent times.
I've been watching the IPL since I was a kid and for the first time I felt like not watching any match because it was the same thing in each match and it was so boring.
Yes it was. Not being biased here. For me this WC peaked during AFG vs BAN when 3 teams were dependent on one result and there were constant ups and downs for all 3 of them throughout the game
Zimbabwe vs Pakistan Ireland vs England Netherlands vs SA Namibia vs Sri Lanka Ireland vs West Indies Scotland vs West Indies
Just a shame the organisers thought people would fill stadiums with a minimum ticket price of $1500
I think 2 year world cups shouldn't be called world cups
It absolutely should be called World Cups. It's more of a World Cup than a tournament with just 10 teams.
Nope, 2 year cups shouldn't be called World cups, there should be only one world cup.
You have your opinion and I have my opinion.
Cricket was good atmosphere 3/10 is boring ..... Maybe coz for local west indian crowd aren't interested in day matches
Maybe they have jobs so they can’t show up to 9.30am matches on a Wednesday
Horrific atmosphere. Empty stadiums at a World Cup is just embarrassing
I wish we had more night games and less of a focus on television numbers. But I still think the night games and the final had a great atmosphere.
The fact that even the final didn’t have 90-100% attendance is sad though, it kills the whole vibe
The NY games were at 10am and it was a trek to get to the stadium, not surprised tbh
Sure, that’s a valid reason, but it’s just evidence of poor planning from ICC
2022 had some proper upsets too like Ireland beating England, Nederlands beating South Africa,zimbabwe beating Pakistan, west Indies not reaching super 12. I like the atmosphere of 2024 almost equally and apart from two boring semi finals, I think everything was right with that world Cup. Would keep both 22 and 24 almost equally with 24 being up just bcoz of more teams and of course bcoz india won.
Man as much as I loved the, I admit, insane comeback from 30 off 30 with a rampaging Klaasen and Killer Miller at the crease, this is not on the same level as Carlos Brathwaite's REMEMBER THE NAME moment or THAT Misbah scoop shot after tonking Joginder for a six. And its absolutely not close to that 2019 ODI WC FINAL SUPER OVER that was decided with a boundary count.
2019 final was the most unusual match.
2019 CWC Final was the peak I don’t think we will ever going to see a final like this every ball was an event
I still remember jumping up and down after every ball because I couldn't believe what was happening during that match.
India missed playing a night game in this tournament. Atleast one game should have been organized on a Friday evening (which is Saturday morning for Indian viewers) so that India could've had a night game experience and the stadium would have been SENSATIONAL with the experience. Indian fans will easily wake up at 6AM (even earlier; thats how crazy they are) for India games. Also restricting India to just the New York pitches was unfair at the start. They could've played a game in Dallas where the expat population is even bigger from that state.
100% agreed!
The whole tournament felt like it was catered to India and I hated it. You're absolutely right about Grand Prairie Stadium. Literally every match over there was electric so imagine how great it would've been had India played a match there.
I dont think u watched t20wc 22 becsuse there were many upsets and great matches
Thanks for this post, I got reminded of Zim vs Pak and the whole Pak bean scenario and had a good laugh
This is more of a WC than 2019 & 2023
I am just here to say that I only had issues with two different timings. As an avid cricket watcher, I wouldn’t mind waking up early or staying up late night to watch matches for a WC tournament. But I understand, that it’s a numbers game for broadcasters. Nevertheless, i would have loved to watch some thrillers like Nepal v SA or Ban vs SL. Also another personal opinion that only Caribbean can match the vibes of a T20 match in South Africa.
Didn't like too many day games
I'd say it was the worst by a mile, all that hype to play in the USA and showcase the game and we either had absolutely awful pitches or a washout. And the scheduling for some teams was absolutely brutal
The timing was incredibly fucked up. New York was definitely not ready Apart from these two things Enjoyble
No. It was instantly forgettable, just like the myriad other T20 tournaments that get played every week.
Well if you're going to watch the random shit like Indonesian vitality blast 2024 you'regonna get bored. I don't watch T20 unless it's the WC
Haha there is a lot of random shit! The only one I kinda follow is the SA20, because I can actually go to some of the games. I miss the days when there was more Test cricket.
The 2022 world cup was the crazy one. Sp many upsets, crazy qualifications and electrifying atmosphere. Most importantly the match between India and Pakistan at MCG had an atmosphere never seen before. Just because India got destroyed in semi final doesn't mean the tournament was a dud. Whereas this world cup, I didn't even notice India getting to the final.
No the tourney wasn't a dud, but the Super 12 format kinda felt off. I loved the group stage, but the tourney felt "small". I agree India vs Pak at MCG was quite something.
I feel that this was the most exciting ICC event in a long time. Even if it was low scoring, there was something in it for everyone. With proper focus and application, anyone could succeed, not just the big hitters. T20 became a game of skills and not raw power. And we saw the impact of that: Associate Teams doing well and catching some big boys off-guard. Every team now has things to think about for future as well. Overall a successful and exciting event that has potentially reshaped the world of cricket for years to come.
what's the catch controversy?
Doctored footage online showing Suryas foot "touching the rope". A valid complaint is the boundary toblerone was slightly moved outward, but that's less of intentional cheating and more of an reflection on groundskeeping, and actually very common in cricket.
Why was there controversy about SKY's catch?
Doctored footage online showing he touched the rope with his foot. And the boundary being moved (which is a valid complaint, but doesn't mean anything)
Honestly, the games were great. I enjoyed this edition. However, the morning games looked dead... Too many empty seats. But the evening games were a banger, the atmosphere was so much different. Shame that they didn't schedule more evening games.
Also the day games had an off vibe to it. I know it was for monetary reasons and rightly so. But night time T20 under lights have a whole different feel to them. Also the finals celebration would have been more vibrant with lights, night sky and fireworks
100% agree, I wish the semis and the finals were under lights at the very least.
Yes, when it comes to T20, it was the only real WC after 2007. All the rest don't even come close
Cricket is getting boring nowadays hope associate teams do major upsets in future
The WC was shit for us Pakistanis 🫠
Good: * The 20 team format is much better * The USA cricket team basically single-handedly thwarted the ICC's attempts to permanently kill the sport in the country. Scotland also performed well above expectations. As did Canada, who flew under the radar due to the loss to USA, but they were the only team to post a decent total in New York * Dallas. Great venue for cricket. * A good reminder that cricket doesn't have to be dominated by the bat. Bad: * Scheduling. All aspects. the 10AM starts. Dragging the first group stage out a week too long, due to a refusal to schedule matches between the morning and evening ones. * (some) Pitches. The New York one was bad enough, but the SA vs AFG semi-final pitch seemed to be a deliberate choice. * Coverage. The tournament was set up for the worst narratives, and the cricket media duly provided it. From cricinfo constantly regurgitating /r/cricket conspiracy fodder about certain teams. To The Guardian's "Here we are in Dallas, sure is a terrible event here... (USA vs Canada is incredible)... *cough ahem* I MEAN HERE WE ARE IN NEW YORK WHAT A CLUSTERFUCK AMIRITE!?" * Some teams' performances. Both Full member (NZ, Ireland, Sri Lanka) and Associate (Namibia, Uganda, PNG). PNG particularly because they were so good vs West Indies, then showed nothing for the rest of the tournament. * The ICC * There's an alternate universe where there are two well planned world cups in a row, one in USA, one in the Caribbean Disgusting: * "pre-seeding"
In what world the atmosphere was good? Barring 1 or 2 games, rest were all played in almost empty stands
t20 wc don't get the respect they deserve because icc tournaments are becoming too much repetitive imo if you take the timeline of 2009-now (a 15 year period) we have had a men's icc tournament every year except 2018 and 2020 out of which there have been 8 t20 wc 2020 was actually a t20wc year but it didn't happen because of obvious reasons, so technically 2018 was the only year which didn't had any scheduled men's icc tournament (women's t20wc did happen in 2018) i would say the hype dies down because of this a lot of times, scrapping CT and both t20 wc and odi wc should be shifted to a 4 year duration and 2 years of gap between odi and t20 wc
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Bro the atmosphere was terrible in all but like 4-5 games in this World Cup
Indian thinks the World Cup they won is the best? What a shock lol
What controversy? Just because some dumbasses saying that the foot touched the rope doesn't mean its a controversy. These same group of people call the oppositions failed deliberately to win IPL contracts whenever India win a game. These same group of people, particularly from PAK, BD and SL, in combination which can be called as the Losers Trinity, win nothing and then call SA to be generational chokers and India, the chokers of the decade. It's like classes 2nd boy is being called choker by the bottom of the classes because he failed to be the topper!!
I'm just saying I didn't want to debate it with trolls. There's doctored footage online of him having touched the rope. I think it was a legal catch.
There's no such controversy really just some pakistani jealous fans crying on social media.
The Cricket was okay but there was a severe lack of Blackjack and Hookers.
You must be new to cricket because this was one of the worst WC's. Luckily it was capped off by a great final so all is forgiven I guess..or not
Elaborate how it was one of the "worst"
I think the USA leg was horribly managed when it came to the pitches and ground. I am not saying we needed a 280-290 wicket but the New York wicket was just horrible, extremely unpredictable bounce and outfield had no pace. It is lucky no-one broke a thumb. Then keeping matches in Florida in peak hurricane season in a ground that had no drainage....we lost games when the sun was beating down because of outfield...that is not on. Same thing with the 2nd SF....you can't roll out a fresh pitch with horrible bounce that nearly took out QDK. These aspects are manageable and I have no idea what was ICC's excuse. Apart from that no complaints especially since India won :)
2024 is good but 2022 was the best
One of the worst World Cups ever Poor pitches, poor marketing, some of the heavyweights performing abysmally. Even Afghanistan doing amazingly well was a great story. But then having a semi finalist get bowled out for 56 or whatever it was was shocking. Pretty atrocious and forgettable tournament all around.
I'll give you poor marketing. But heavyweights being beaten was part of the charm! Afghanistan's story was great - SA dominated them in the semifinal but that just shows that Afg need more experience on the big stage. The final was also very thrilling. Right up there with Stokes "unintentionally" directing a throw to the boundary in 2019.
Why was there no 2018 WC?
No idea, but there was a gap from 2016, and there were supposed to be two in a row : 2020 and 2021. But due to COVID 2020 (Aus/NZ) got pushed to 2022. 2021 was gonna be in India but due to a massive COVID surge in India moved to UAE and Oman.
They wanted to do every 4 years then changed minds
My biggest issue with this world cup is the lack of games. The players are well capable of playing twice the games in the pool stages. NZ played 3 games in 2 weeks. 120 overs in 2 weeks is less than 2 days of test cricket. The players are capable obviously of playing more. More games I presume means more money. Why not play more?
I thought the atmosphere was awful, empty stands just felt really low budget overall. Liked the Caribbean vibes tho
This year Theme song was the best , out of this world tournament !
I was surprised to see empty seats at all of the west indies game .
You don’t put US level prices in West Indies - that’s just committing suicide.
That sucks for the locals
They ran this tournament purely for the sake of raking in Indian diaspora dollars in the tri-state area. They have a proper cricket stadium in Florida - they didn’t host India Pak there because NY area has more number of Indians who will be willing to pay money for it than have to travel to Florida. If ICC really wanted the game to grow in the US - why didn’t it build a stadium in NY area so that they can come back & instead chose a makeshift stadium Which is pardonable which had a makeshift drop in pitch which was atrocious.
Cricket was great and all, but... > also the fact that Djokovic and Federer played a thriller on the same day was crazy What match was this?
Wimbledon final 2019
Wikipedia says it was on 14 July 2019. Am I missing something?
The 2019 WC Final was the same day?
Okay, I thought you meant the same day as this year's T20 World Cup. My bad.
"**Crazy New York pitch**. Reminded me of the India vs SA second test in January 2024 in Cape Town that almost ended in a day. Uneven bounce for days." \*ALL\* cricket should be played on pitches like that. I'm definitely a Bowlshevik.
The group stages were full of amateur sides , so lack of competitive games . Although the Super 8s made up for it 👏 Decent wc overall . We've experienced the 2021 wc , this was way way better .
West Indies getting into trouble in their first match against PNG
At the start of the tournament I was hoping for an India Vs South Africa final as those two teams stood out to me as the best. It's what we got and the final delivered in spades. Kohli goes out the hero that he is but Bumrah my gosh. The US did well which is good for the state of the game. Associate teams not embarrassed which is fantastic. The gap is closing! Wish the NY stadium was better quality for T20 but you can't have it all and that's what stood out to me as the black hole on the tournament. Congrats to Afghanistan for making it to the semi. Sad their performance in the key game wasn't up to par but they got there deservedly.
I lije your take.
2024 was worse than I thought it'd be. Maybe it's the lack of upsets, but I was hoping for associates to give more competitions to full members than (most of them) they did. I think 2022 was better imo
I guess Pakistan vs USA, Afghanistan thrashing NZ, Ban beating SL, Afghanistan's wonder run by beating Aus and Ban, don't count? Also, while these weren't upsets - Scotland almost getting the better of Eng and Aus and Nepal almost sneaking one by SA were thrilling.
Pakistan got sufficient competition from associates IMO
What does this have to do with Pakistan? Generally out of all associates. Only USA qualified. Meanwhile 10 were eliminated.
What tournament?
What point are you trying to make?
Zimbabwe.
Probably the worst WC in cricket history in terms of people watching, talking about it and marketing wise. Didn’t even watch myself. You must be an india fan!