Do you think people will ever get over the minor differences between British-English and American-English, or will we be doing this until the end of time?
Aussie here, we just take the worst of both sides and laugh in the faces of both.
Like, in the UK, they have chips and crisps.
In the US, they have fries and chips.
Here, we have… chips and chips.
The name "tater tots" is trademarked by an American company, so a generic name gets used instead
Also, additional regional fun fact: Burger King is named Hungry Jack's in Australia, since there was already another takeaway place that had trademarked the name Burger King
Maccas can call em what they like. The only fries are [these](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRd9Ss1vrZSFt6uswV7CldygT_f3DpmzpXi05WRDBYZSQ&s).
But they were all of them deceived, for another English was made. In the land of Australia, in the fires of the outback, the Dark Lord, Yahoo Serious forged in secret, a master English, to control all others. And into this English he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One English to rule them all.
huh, turns out my (spanish) high school taught neither american accent nor british accent, but the third secret australian accent cause i say itunes like this.
So do most British people I know. I literally never understood where the "choosday" thing came from, because outside of a few fringe accents nobody pronounces it like that. Hell go back a few years and you'll find examples of Americans making fun of us for pronouncing "tu" as "tyu", such as the bit in iCarly where they make fun of a British girl for pronouncing it tyuna. There was just this sudden switch a few years ago where "british" stopped being Received Pronunciation and started being Birmingham chav for some reason. I think it's Americans trying to boil us down to like 3 accents like they have. I mean Texas is much larger than the UK and how many accents does it have? 1 or 2? Meanwhile you can't cross a bridge here without the accent changing.
Plus if Americans want to start stereotyping the British to what our least legible accents sound like, I'll just start saying "Aaron earned an iron urn" to take the piss out of them.
The "bo'l o' wa'er", "chewsday, innit" stuff Yanks do is annoying for me personally because that's my accent lol, South Essex Estuary. It's far from representative of the country as a whole, but it's not like they consume much in the way of UK media to know any different. Still doesn't stop them eviscerating you for confusing highly micro-regional accents like a Brooklyn accent with a Yonkers or New Jersey accent, though.
I assume it's because your mouth makes a similar movement making that "tyou" sound as "chew", so when you say it with the speed and phonetic laziness of British accents (this *is* the country which turned worcestershire into wuh-stuh-shuh) it kind of *sounds* like "chew" unless you know what sound you were actually trying to make.
The reason it's changed is that until recently traditional RP was "the British accent" and *over*enunciates a lot of its sounds so you could *hear* that "tyou" sound. Now the yanks have started laughing at poor people where that phonetic laziness is more pronounced with dropped letters and merged sounds etc.
Sorry to be reductive but I have decided to sum up your point in the form of a bad joke:
"Middle Class White People laugh at poor foreigners, more news at eleven".
I think it’s mostly because in American media, British actors usually only speak with one of five accents, depending on the genre and character (everyone is either posh or cockney with a couple others I can’t place, as an American). Also, there’s a lot more than 3 accents in America, it’s a pretty big place, lots of geographical differences to develop unique accents only heard in that are, like Tidewater for example. I forgot where I was going with this so I’ll end with have a nice weekend :)
I could drone on for hours about accents, and in fact I did in the last draft of this comment. But I'll keep it brief so as not to bore you to death. I resent the accusation that I don't know that there's at least 3 accents in America. I can think of 3 off the top of my head. Texas, Florida, and everywhere else. Being serious though, a lot of America, to my ear anyway, sounds very similar. It might just be because I'm not American and can't pick up on any subtleties (though you'd think almost all the media I consume being American would help) or perhaps it's the fact that any American I hear speak is from a movie or the internet, and the internet has almost certainly smoothed everyone's accents out, but so much of America just sounds the same to me. I was recently told by a friend that Philadelphia has a "distinct" accent, but listening to a few clips it basically sounded the same to me as somebody from Washington did, and they're across the country from each other. Similarly almost anyone I've heard speak online just sounds "American", I can vaguely figure out north or south sometimes, but if you asked me to even narrow it down to states (not name the states, just group a few voices into distinct states, or even groups of states) I'd struggle, never mind grouping people into cities like you can here. A friend recently came out to me as Texan, and I was like "really? I could hardly tell", if you'd asked me to guess a state I would just vaguely gesture at North America on a map, because even Alaska in all its isolation sounds similar to to the other states in my experience. Like in the uk just listening to somebody speak for a few seconds can let you place them geographically north or south of you, and then as they talk more you can narrow it down more and more, but I could hear an American talk for days and not state a chance of getting it right in even 3 guesses. I'll bet there are some unique accents, but as a whole it's very samey.
I'm not very good with conclusions either, or being concise apparently, but you have a good weekend too :)
Yes of course. Stolen generation bullshit was going on almost into the 70s. Most Australians will pass the buck saying that they were convicts themselves, even in my homestate which wasn't even a convict settlement.
We just had a referendum to try & enshrine their place in the constitution, but the side that pushed for the referendum didn't really want it & it was an absolute farce of campaign that was plagued by the right who rolled out their pet "One of the good ones" Jacinta Price to argue against their interests & push a truly horrendous misinformation campaign.
I know all politicians are self serving pieces of shit, but she's probably the worst in my country I can think of.
at some point, inshallah, our nation will splinter into dozens of regional fiefdoms wherein english devolves into multiple barely-comprehensible pidgins of cyberpunk slang, while their island washes into the sea
Yeah, as someone who has English as a second language and uses a lot of British English spelling (because that’s how we learned it) I could have paid for my college degree with every “well actually you should spell it *this* way” from an American. And when you’re like, it’s different spelling, they just whine about how “that’s wrong”.
Obligatory # NotAllAmericans and # ProbablyBritsToo. But on Reddit, most people are American, and every time this happens it’s an American complaining, so I’m just going off my own experience here.
As a Brit it's really annoying because they're usually mocking the working class accents and they get enough shit from within our own class system, let alone when Americans start up. It's like they only discovered other accents a few years ago but their immediate first response was to mock it relentlessly
The worst part is that Americans will mock anything even SLIGHTLY different than their accent, making a huge deal out of it... yet will also vigorously defend bizarre American accents, like New York or Boston or Southern, etc.
It was never funny, but it's the hypocrisy that makes it all so very tiring.
I’m English born and raised, moved from the north to the south and I get comments every day about my accent. Every new person takes the piss.
This will never stop. Also we are right, it’s our language. Clue is in the name.
People who literally don't update their computers. Podcasts are a separate app now on both Macbooks and iPhones - don't know about windows, but to use any Apple product to do that, you'd have to have not updated it in years.
Yeah, I’m just glad it was stuff like this and not the Brits saying, “American podcasts be sad when their kids get murdered at school,” as seems to be their only retort in other situations.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological\_history\_of\_English\_consonant\_clusters#Yod-coalescence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_consonant_clusters#Yod-coalescence) its real
I'm also ontario and say it with the "y" sound. I'm a linguistics major with an interest in socio linguistics and from my understanding its mostly a generational difference, not so much a regional one. "tyun" is the original pronounciation and if you said one or the other it used to be a way to tell if someone is Canadian or American, but now, presumably due to American influence "tun" is becoming more common and in southern ontario at least I think I remember seeing a paper saying its now the majority.
One interesting thing though is that I've noticed that south asians, even younger ones and ones who have lived in Canada for generations (I'm 3rd gen) very consistently pronounce it as "tyun", I want to research on the topic.
Though as a Canadian, yodh dropping (pronouncing it the American way) is becoming increasingly common. I'm gen Z and most people my age say /tun/ but not me.
Also fun fact the name of the phenomenon in British English is called yodh coalescence. I do think about how this is actually a case of Canadian English being more conservative, where the "y" sound called yodh here for some reason has disappeared in American English and merged with the "t" "sh" and "d" in a lot of British varieties.
If anyone wants to know why people do this(on a scientific level), it's called Yod-Coalescence.
This video explains it better than I probably could:
https://youtu.be/RRs103ETh2Q?si=oGfvg-Twqsl9EYvk
Not the person you replied to, but I agree about "Tunes" being pronounced as "toons" being stupid. It's "Tyunes" with the "tyu" being pronounced the same as "pew" with a T. Why would anyone pronounce it Toons?
That’s the original way words like that were pronounced, but many Brits merged the T and the Y to create a Ch, whereas the Americans got rid of the Y all together
Actually I believe it was originally a diphthong something like "iu", Which in most Dialects became more of a 'yu' sound which then evolved from there, But some dialects still maintain the original pronunciation, Such as a number in Wales, I suspect because the same diphthong occurs commonly in the Welsh language.
>Why would anyone pronounce it Toons?
Same reason people will say "Lurr" instead of "Lure", Or "Loot" instead of "Lute", Because it's easier, or faster, Or something like that. In East Anglia they take it a step further and do it after any consonant, So you get "Bootiful" instead of "Beautiful".
Lure can be pronounced "Lurr" or "Loor" on the basis of a cultural "fuck that shit". Lute being pronounced any other way than "Loot" doesn't make sense- that's literally its actual pronunciation, no matter where you are.
Beautiful being pronounced "Bootiful" in a context other than satire, though, is completely new to me. Neat!
(We can probably *all* agree, though, that as long as it's close enough to understand, who cares? It's English, not French. A slight change in pronunciation won't turn a word like "thermonuclear" into "fish".)
Lute is pronounced lyoot in some places. See the RP pronunciation on Wiktionary:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lute
Also I suspect you're missing the distinction they're trying to make between lurr and loor, which Ima guess is also one of yod-dropping rather than vowel quality. I'm not sure on that one though because I'm not sure how they wanted either spelling to be pronounced.
I say "lurr" if I'm out fishing and need to borrow one or asking which one to use. I say "lure" if I'm chewing up my words and spitting them out, I mean enunciating.
Wait, so would you tyune an instrument, and not toon an instrument?
You tyune in to your favourite channel, you don't toon into your favourite channel? Genuinely asking, those words are homonyms.
I mean that's mainly just in like Maryland I think, Sounds weird to most Americans too. A while back I encountered some guy who seemed adament all Americans pronounce it like that, And I Was just like "I've lived in America all my life, And I'm honestly not sure I've met a single person who actually says it like that..."
I think it's a Southern thing, too- There's, like, a very faint tongue modulation between syllables, but it definitely comes out as "meerer". Same for most folks I've talked to down here.
It’s two defined syllables but one of them is just an /ɚ/ (rhotic vowel), which is basically r as a vowel. Many British people don’t have a rhotic vowel because their dialect isn’t rhotic, but rhotic dialects like most of Irish English pronounce it similarly to the American version
I mean uhhh skill issue
person from region A: here we pronounce it as "regional dialect A"
person from region B: OMG HOW THAT IS SOOOOO NOT CORRECT, WOW YOU ARE STUPID IT IS CLEARLY PRONOUNCED AS "regional dialect B"
Dude's like "lmao lol haha everyone's trying to roast us Americans but they're just making fun of how it's *actually* pronounced :)" as if they haven't just discovered why it's impossible to make fun of the world's most dominant culture. American pronunciation is standard, so how can you make fun of it? You have to make fun of non-standard American accents or the few really weird words (like pooma for puma).
Dialects exist. The way some people in the US say words isn't the default. The way *you* say it isn't how it's actually pronounced, it's a variant of the spelling.
I like how the English say Jaguar but there's a particular accent that puts random "R"s in words and names.. Like when they say Barack Obamar drives me mad.
British people: "let's name the city 'West Town.'" "How's it spelled?" "Whacehtyjoulm"
Also British people: "lol Americans can't pronounce our place names correctly"
I mean, that’s not entirely the counter argument those Americans seem to think it is because from the British point of view, we’re the ones pronouncing it correctly.
You motherfuckers need the international phonetic alphabet if you want to try and talk to each other about this stuff.
"Actually I say it 'iTunes'" like I'm supposed to psychically pick up on what accent you're speaking. [tʲun]? [tun]? [t͡ʃun]?
Yanks pretending they don't mangle every word that crosses their door. "boddle of wodder". I've never met an American that doesn't say "Calvary" instead of cavalry.
Actually the normal American pronunciation of "Bottle of Water" contains rather than a 'd' sound, A voiced alveolar tap, Which is roughly as close to a 'd' as to an 'r'. ~~At least it's still in the right place of articulation though, Rather than the Gottal Stop which's pronounced on the complete opposite end of your mouth :p~~
From the perspective of someone who has English as a second language? Yeah, absolutely. Who is crazy enough to pronounce "tune" and "toon" equally? Those are clearly very different words and should be pronounce as such.
A very popular show "Looney Tunes" is pronounced "Looney Toons", which, if there was a difference before, has indoctrinated all of the western youth into those sounding the same.
i like to think of it like siblings teasing eachother. it makes no real sense and ultimately isnt nearly as funny/entertaining to outsiders and sometimes the people doing it, but its just what you do, and you do it forever.
Do you think people will ever get over the minor differences between British-English and American-English, or will we be doing this until the end of time?
Aussie here, we just take the worst of both sides and laugh in the faces of both. Like, in the UK, they have chips and crisps. In the US, they have fries and chips. Here, we have… chips and chips.
Potato disks and potato prisms.
Well, tater tots are called potato gems in australia...
What
The name "tater tots" is trademarked by an American company, so a generic name gets used instead Also, additional regional fun fact: Burger King is named Hungry Jack's in Australia, since there was already another takeaway place that had trademarked the name Burger King
Hungry Jack’s is a far superior name than Burger King. I move that we should rename all US locations.
Which is really funny because the generic term for “tater tots” in the the US is just “tots”
"Napoleon, give me some of your tots"
No.
Go find your own.
Yeah I don’t remember the last time I said the tater
The sick fucks
I understand australians call McDonalds Maccas?
I prefer golden rounds. Which is another name for a round shaped tater tot but also a cracker..
On second though, let's not go to Australia. 'Tis a silly place.
Lol, they love them more so they get to name them. They called them GEMS. You know they love them shits. Point to Australia.
I like this name. If Tater Tots weren't already perfect, this would be a good name to use.
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This reminds me of that one "chip cob vs chip butty" thing. What's with the fascination with the word "chip"?
Chip is a good word, chap.
We do have fries though, but only the thin Maccas ones. If it's not from Maccas it's chips.
Maccas can call em what they like. The only fries are [these](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRd9Ss1vrZSFt6uswV7CldygT_f3DpmzpXi05WRDBYZSQ&s).
I’m not going to ask what is that. Why is that?
Want crumch but want smol
How do you Aussies pronounce Mojo Jojo? Marjar Jarjar?
By the standard Australian nicknaming convention, we’d probably pronounce it Mozzie (Which is also what we call mosquitos, so that makes sense).
Honestly I like that approach, I've taken to calling basically anything made from fried potato "Chips".
They say Australians have five hundred words for chips. All of them “chips.”
god willing, Ireland *will* rise again and save us all
But they were all of them deceived, for another English was made. In the land of Australia, in the fires of the outback, the Dark Lord, Yahoo Serious forged in secret, a master English, to control all others. And into this English he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One English to rule them all.
Fuckin yeah cunt
Smoko by The Chats is enough to make me switch to y’all’s side. So do I just say “cunt” like every 4th or 5th word or what?
No, there’s definitely importance in context. Mad Cunt and Shit Cunt are VERY different.
*Damn*, if only Reddit Gold was still a thing.
Do they say Chunes or Toons?
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huh, turns out my (spanish) high school taught neither american accent nor british accent, but the third secret australian accent cause i say itunes like this.
Not british or american, but a secret third thing, *australian*
So do most British people I know. I literally never understood where the "choosday" thing came from, because outside of a few fringe accents nobody pronounces it like that. Hell go back a few years and you'll find examples of Americans making fun of us for pronouncing "tu" as "tyu", such as the bit in iCarly where they make fun of a British girl for pronouncing it tyuna. There was just this sudden switch a few years ago where "british" stopped being Received Pronunciation and started being Birmingham chav for some reason. I think it's Americans trying to boil us down to like 3 accents like they have. I mean Texas is much larger than the UK and how many accents does it have? 1 or 2? Meanwhile you can't cross a bridge here without the accent changing. Plus if Americans want to start stereotyping the British to what our least legible accents sound like, I'll just start saying "Aaron earned an iron urn" to take the piss out of them.
texan here! we def have more than two accents. Butttt I'm not entirely sure what they are
The "bo'l o' wa'er", "chewsday, innit" stuff Yanks do is annoying for me personally because that's my accent lol, South Essex Estuary. It's far from representative of the country as a whole, but it's not like they consume much in the way of UK media to know any different. Still doesn't stop them eviscerating you for confusing highly micro-regional accents like a Brooklyn accent with a Yonkers or New Jersey accent, though.
It’s because we all hate New Jersey and don’t want to be associated with them :)
I assume it's because your mouth makes a similar movement making that "tyou" sound as "chew", so when you say it with the speed and phonetic laziness of British accents (this *is* the country which turned worcestershire into wuh-stuh-shuh) it kind of *sounds* like "chew" unless you know what sound you were actually trying to make. The reason it's changed is that until recently traditional RP was "the British accent" and *over*enunciates a lot of its sounds so you could *hear* that "tyou" sound. Now the yanks have started laughing at poor people where that phonetic laziness is more pronounced with dropped letters and merged sounds etc.
Sorry to be reductive but I have decided to sum up your point in the form of a bad joke: "Middle Class White People laugh at poor foreigners, more news at eleven".
I think it’s mostly because in American media, British actors usually only speak with one of five accents, depending on the genre and character (everyone is either posh or cockney with a couple others I can’t place, as an American). Also, there’s a lot more than 3 accents in America, it’s a pretty big place, lots of geographical differences to develop unique accents only heard in that are, like Tidewater for example. I forgot where I was going with this so I’ll end with have a nice weekend :)
I could drone on for hours about accents, and in fact I did in the last draft of this comment. But I'll keep it brief so as not to bore you to death. I resent the accusation that I don't know that there's at least 3 accents in America. I can think of 3 off the top of my head. Texas, Florida, and everywhere else. Being serious though, a lot of America, to my ear anyway, sounds very similar. It might just be because I'm not American and can't pick up on any subtleties (though you'd think almost all the media I consume being American would help) or perhaps it's the fact that any American I hear speak is from a movie or the internet, and the internet has almost certainly smoothed everyone's accents out, but so much of America just sounds the same to me. I was recently told by a friend that Philadelphia has a "distinct" accent, but listening to a few clips it basically sounded the same to me as somebody from Washington did, and they're across the country from each other. Similarly almost anyone I've heard speak online just sounds "American", I can vaguely figure out north or south sometimes, but if you asked me to even narrow it down to states (not name the states, just group a few voices into distinct states, or even groups of states) I'd struggle, never mind grouping people into cities like you can here. A friend recently came out to me as Texan, and I was like "really? I could hardly tell", if you'd asked me to guess a state I would just vaguely gesture at North America on a map, because even Alaska in all its isolation sounds similar to to the other states in my experience. Like in the uk just listening to somebody speak for a few seconds can let you place them geographically north or south of you, and then as they talk more you can narrow it down more and more, but I could hear an American talk for days and not state a chance of getting it right in even 3 guesses. I'll bet there are some unique accents, but as a whole it's very samey. I'm not very good with conclusions either, or being concise apparently, but you have a good weekend too :)
Chunes.
Ohr nor!
R & R!
Australia did terrible colonizer stuff too right? I know they’ve done awful things to the aborigines
Yes of course. Stolen generation bullshit was going on almost into the 70s. Most Australians will pass the buck saying that they were convicts themselves, even in my homestate which wasn't even a convict settlement. We just had a referendum to try & enshrine their place in the constitution, but the side that pushed for the referendum didn't really want it & it was an absolute farce of campaign that was plagued by the right who rolled out their pet "One of the good ones" Jacinta Price to argue against their interests & push a truly horrendous misinformation campaign. I know all politicians are self serving pieces of shit, but she's probably the worst in my country I can think of.
On a scale between 0 and Priti Patel, where would you rate her?
fuckin oath
🏅
Brilliant
I've yet to see a case where the US and a European country had an online-feud and then some day stopped having that feud.
US: Imperial EU: Metric UK: wtf? Stones? Driving on the left? MPH? So maybe we can agree that UK is the weird one
at some point, inshallah, our nation will splinter into dozens of regional fiefdoms wherein english devolves into multiple barely-comprehensible pidgins of cyberpunk slang, while their island washes into the sea
You think so Beltalowda?
If we're lucky, choom
May it be so.
The fact that the difference is minor and fundamentally inconsequential is what makes the joke funny.
I'll be real, the joke really isn't funny, and hasn't been for years. It's just fuckin' tedious
Yeah, as someone who has English as a second language and uses a lot of British English spelling (because that’s how we learned it) I could have paid for my college degree with every “well actually you should spell it *this* way” from an American. And when you’re like, it’s different spelling, they just whine about how “that’s wrong”. Obligatory # NotAllAmericans and # ProbablyBritsToo. But on Reddit, most people are American, and every time this happens it’s an American complaining, so I’m just going off my own experience here.
As a Brit it's really annoying because they're usually mocking the working class accents and they get enough shit from within our own class system, let alone when Americans start up. It's like they only discovered other accents a few years ago but their immediate first response was to mock it relentlessly
American here, I can never remember if I'm supposed to spell the color Gray or Grey to match american spelling.
grAy for America, grEy for England
Emerican here
They do it cause it’s funny. It hasn’t stopped getting a giggle from me. Teehee. “Lorry”… “lift”… “Rahsbrees”… “telee”… it all just sounds so quaint.
Yeah it's funny innit?
The worst part is that Americans will mock anything even SLIGHTLY different than their accent, making a huge deal out of it... yet will also vigorously defend bizarre American accents, like New York or Boston or Southern, etc. It was never funny, but it's the hypocrisy that makes it all so very tiring.
I’m English born and raised, moved from the north to the south and I get comments every day about my accent. Every new person takes the piss. This will never stop. Also we are right, it’s our language. Clue is in the name.
>it’s our language. Lmao
The question is who tf uses iTunes to listen to podcasts anymore?
I think if you listen on Apple Podcasts, the rating system is still iTunes
Honestly this tumblr post was probably quite dated by the time OP found it.
People who literally don't update their computers. Podcasts are a separate app now on both Macbooks and iPhones - don't know about windows, but to use any Apple product to do that, you'd have to have not updated it in years.
Id rather it at least be petty arguments like this and not people making nasty “jokes” about the deaths of citizens in either country
Yeah, I’m just glad it was stuff like this and not the Brits saying, “American podcasts be sad when their kids get murdered at school,” as seems to be their only retort in other situations.
If a Brit says that, just know they're sad and lonely on the inside and they don't know how to properly lose anything.
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For shame you filthy Brit /s
Only retort? I’d recommend you visit the optometrist, but you might not be able to afford it.
as a canadian, it's ITyuns
Kiwi here, Also putting in a vote for a Ty sound, not a hard T or a CH.
I’m British, and we also say Ty, as in Tyuesday or Tyunes. Don’t know where they’re getting Chunes from.
Ty is the original way, but many English people merged the t and the y to create a ch sound
Why the downvotes? This is true
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological\_history\_of\_English\_consonant\_clusters#Yod-coalescence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_consonant_clusters#Yod-coalescence) its real
Probably from 'younger' speakers in the ~~Souf~~ South of England, at the very least. Source: Am part of that demographic.
I get my chunes from Spotify mostly.
What part of Canada if you don’t mind me asking? I’m IToons (Ontario)
I'm also ontario and say it with the "y" sound. I'm a linguistics major with an interest in socio linguistics and from my understanding its mostly a generational difference, not so much a regional one. "tyun" is the original pronounciation and if you said one or the other it used to be a way to tell if someone is Canadian or American, but now, presumably due to American influence "tun" is becoming more common and in southern ontario at least I think I remember seeing a paper saying its now the majority. One interesting thing though is that I've noticed that south asians, even younger ones and ones who have lived in Canada for generations (I'm 3rd gen) very consistently pronounce it as "tyun", I want to research on the topic.
Lower Mainland, BC.
alright but can we agree that "statue" is pronounced "stachoo"
It's more like statchyoo
I thought Canadians called it iToonies
Though as a Canadian, yodh dropping (pronouncing it the American way) is becoming increasingly common. I'm gen Z and most people my age say /tun/ but not me. Also fun fact the name of the phenomenon in British English is called yodh coalescence. I do think about how this is actually a case of Canadian English being more conservative, where the "y" sound called yodh here for some reason has disappeared in American English and merged with the "t" "sh" and "d" in a lot of British varieties.
People when people from different places sound different
People when people are different: 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
American podcasters try to pronounce Australian place names challenge - Impossible.
Easy: take half of the word out and add a y at the end.
that's a trap, if you use a y where you're meant to use an o or an a you'll stick out, and let's not even get into the azzas
If anyone wants to know why people do this(on a scientific level), it's called Yod-Coalescence. This video explains it better than I probably could: https://youtu.be/RRs103ETh2Q?si=oGfvg-Twqsl9EYvk
Nah mate it's iTuns
Please remove extra iTuns from the bagging area
eye two neighs
Well, we don't say 'car-choons', so it could be worse.
As a Dutchman: 'AiTjoens'
I pronounce it "iTunes" because I don't pronounce "tune" and "toon" the same like a barbarian.
Hmm. So to you Looney Tunes and Looney Toons are two different things?
To me? Yep! Fascinating to learn that there are some people who pronounce it ‘toons’
How do you pronounce it
Not the person you replied to, but I agree about "Tunes" being pronounced as "toons" being stupid. It's "Tyunes" with the "tyu" being pronounced the same as "pew" with a T. Why would anyone pronounce it Toons?
If it were pronounced with a y God woulda spelt it Tyunes, but by his Grace there is no y so I shalt not pronounce it
Yeah, it really helps get that pretentious tone across.
Ugh. British. I'm joking, but I do think that's super weird as am American because "u" commonly can make the ooo sound
Brits be watching the Looney Tyunes
That’s the original way words like that were pronounced, but many Brits merged the T and the Y to create a Ch, whereas the Americans got rid of the Y all together
Actually I believe it was originally a diphthong something like "iu", Which in most Dialects became more of a 'yu' sound which then evolved from there, But some dialects still maintain the original pronunciation, Such as a number in Wales, I suspect because the same diphthong occurs commonly in the Welsh language.
>Why would anyone pronounce it Toons? Same reason people will say "Lurr" instead of "Lure", Or "Loot" instead of "Lute", Because it's easier, or faster, Or something like that. In East Anglia they take it a step further and do it after any consonant, So you get "Bootiful" instead of "Beautiful".
Lure can be pronounced "Lurr" or "Loor" on the basis of a cultural "fuck that shit". Lute being pronounced any other way than "Loot" doesn't make sense- that's literally its actual pronunciation, no matter where you are. Beautiful being pronounced "Bootiful" in a context other than satire, though, is completely new to me. Neat! (We can probably *all* agree, though, that as long as it's close enough to understand, who cares? It's English, not French. A slight change in pronunciation won't turn a word like "thermonuclear" into "fish".)
Lute is pronounced lyoot in some places. See the RP pronunciation on Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lute Also I suspect you're missing the distinction they're trying to make between lurr and loor, which Ima guess is also one of yod-dropping rather than vowel quality. I'm not sure on that one though because I'm not sure how they wanted either spelling to be pronounced.
I say "lurr" if I'm out fishing and need to borrow one or asking which one to use. I say "lure" if I'm chewing up my words and spitting them out, I mean enunciating.
I pronounce it "iTewns"
Wait, so would you tyune an instrument, and not toon an instrument? You tyune in to your favourite channel, you don't toon into your favourite channel? Genuinely asking, those words are homonyms.
Yes, they aren't homonyms to non-US accents.
American podcasts be like "Ai Tiúns" (I'm Brazilian)
Let's not talk about how Americans somehow turned "Mirror" into a monosyllabic word. "Meerrrrrr."
Look at that cute little SQURL
Skwurol. It's bisyllabic, güey
nah a lot of people say skwurl, i cant tell how i say it but that’s probably a bad sign lmao
I mean the el sound is kinda tricky syllablewise, I forgive you
Well own up to some, like squrl as dumb, largely cause most Americans accept Q as being a bastard letter
I mean that's mainly just in like Maryland I think, Sounds weird to most Americans too. A while back I encountered some guy who seemed adament all Americans pronounce it like that, And I Was just like "I've lived in America all my life, And I'm honestly not sure I've met a single person who actually says it like that..."
I think it's a Southern thing, too- There's, like, a very faint tongue modulation between syllables, but it definitely comes out as "meerer". Same for most folks I've talked to down here.
Yeah, I'm from the south and while it looks goofy speleld out, I had a chuckle when I said it out loud and it was accurate lol
Really? My accent (pacific northwest) gives it two defined syllables. Huh
Proof that you lot should be one with BC in whatever permutation that takes.
Cascadia Now!
Borth Carolina isnt a real state
It’s two defined syllables but one of them is just an /ɚ/ (rhotic vowel), which is basically r as a vowel. Many British people don’t have a rhotic vowel because their dialect isn’t rhotic, but rhotic dialects like most of Irish English pronounce it similarly to the American version I mean uhhh skill issue
Like an ambulance siren
I was looking at my orgn cran in the meerrr when a skrl snatched it.
Then y'all say like meerah like where'd y'all get an a
There's no a, what are you talking about?
Yeah I've never heard people say it like that.
Ah tewns
person from region A: here we pronounce it as "regional dialect A" person from region B: OMG HOW THAT IS SOOOOO NOT CORRECT, WOW YOU ARE STUPID IT IS CLEARLY PRONOUNCED AS "regional dialect B"
American Centric Worldviews, roll out.
Man's gonna get heat for this one. Man's not wrong.
r/usDefaultism
Dude's like "lmao lol haha everyone's trying to roast us Americans but they're just making fun of how it's *actually* pronounced :)" as if they haven't just discovered why it's impossible to make fun of the world's most dominant culture. American pronunciation is standard, so how can you make fun of it? You have to make fun of non-standard American accents or the few really weird words (like pooma for puma).
Dialects exist. The way some people in the US say words isn't the default. The way *you* say it isn't how it's actually pronounced, it's a variant of the spelling.
Wrong, however I pronounce a word is the best and correct way/s
where the fuck is American pronounciation considered standard outside of America
the hejemony… society!?
How else do you pronounce "puma"? "Puh-mah"?
Pewma, I think?
I like how the English say Jaguar but there's a particular accent that puts random "R"s in words and names.. Like when they say Barack Obamar drives me mad.
Oh yeah, pronounce Worcestershire Sauce, I dare you
NOOOOOOO
Wuster-shur sauce
Worstur-shester-chester-sauce
Americans taking flack for y'all naming it badly.
British people: "let's name the city 'West Town.'" "How's it spelled?" "Whacehtyjoulm" Also British people: "lol Americans can't pronounce our place names correctly"
wussta-sheer
Wooster-Shire Sauce.
I swear Tumblr goes nationalistic when the Brits are involved
in an surprising twist of fate, the english dont want "T"
Youchewb
I mean, that’s not entirely the counter argument those Americans seem to think it is because from the British point of view, we’re the ones pronouncing it correctly.
You can have your fun now, Americans, but let's see you pronounce the 13th element of the periodic table
not quite the same considering it's literally spelled different lol
"Aluminium" is way too strong a word for how frail and light aluminum is. Also too long for how common it is. Get on our level.
You motherfuckers need the international phonetic alphabet if you want to try and talk to each other about this stuff. "Actually I say it 'iTunes'" like I'm supposed to psychically pick up on what accent you're speaking. [tʲun]? [tun]? [t͡ʃun]?
Yanks pretending they don't mangle every word that crosses their door. "boddle of wodder". I've never met an American that doesn't say "Calvary" instead of cavalry.
Actually the normal American pronunciation of "Bottle of Water" contains rather than a 'd' sound, A voiced alveolar tap, Which is roughly as close to a 'd' as to an 'r'. ~~At least it's still in the right place of articulation though, Rather than the Gottal Stop which's pronounced on the complete opposite end of your mouth :p~~
idk what idiots you've been speaking with, but as an American I've never said or heard Calvary. wtf is that lmao
I imagine it's a southern thing, Like how they say "Nucular" instead of "Nuclear".
Calvary is a real word... Site of Jesus' crucifixion. Not sure how you can live in Bible thumper central and not know that
i would presume that perhaps they aren’t religious
"Bahd'l ah' wah'dr" Vs "Boh'l o' woh'uh"
Eh, I say "botul-ov-wortuh"
That strikes me as a west country accent am i anywhere close?
Yeah not far, mostly generic southern / RP with a bit of Isle of Wight
I am *not* taking this shit from a people who pronounce mirror with one syllable
Well it's a good thing we don't (except maybe in the south).
"I don't have an accent, this is how words sound when they are pronounced correctly"- Jimmy Carr
Sometimes i think about Brits talking about "The Legend of Zelda: Ockuhreener of Time" and wonder how language does that...
??? How is it pronounced elsewhere?
Awk-uh-reen-uh, at least for west coast
Britain pronounced it correctly
From the perspective of someone who has English as a second language? Yeah, absolutely. Who is crazy enough to pronounce "tune" and "toon" equally? Those are clearly very different words and should be pronounce as such.
Reddit when vowel mergers exist
A very popular show "Looney Tunes" is pronounced "Looney Toons", which, if there was a difference before, has indoctrinated all of the western youth into those sounding the same.
Ah, yes, the famous "ch" sound of the letter T.
We're actually saying "tyoon", it's just we say it so quickly your poor ears can't keep up and hear "chewn".
i like to think of it like siblings teasing eachother. it makes no real sense and ultimately isnt nearly as funny/entertaining to outsiders and sometimes the people doing it, but its just what you do, and you do it forever.