I really can't wait for the biting_lip variant of the π emoji that we're getting in the next Unicode. That is going to be just something else
Edit:
I'm a little behind on the news, it seems, since Unicode 14 released about a month ago. So it's already out there for those who have more recent systems.
I'm several iOS iterations behind so whenever someone sends me an emoji I can't see I just put it into google so I can see a picture of it and act normal
Upon my latest reread it's a bit more than heavily implied...there's even a [whole sourced section on the wiki page of the character.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Carraway#:~:text=of%20tender%20curiosity.%22-,Queer%20reading,used%20as%20a%20phallic%20symbol.)
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Do you remember the flamboyant cameraman at the party? Well, at the end of chapter 2 Nick (and maybe the cameraman) are both pretty drunk and get onto an elevator together. Then we jump forward in time (cause Nick kinda forgot what happened after that) to where the cameraman and Nick are in a bedroom together. If I remember correctly the cameraman is laying on the bed in his underwear and Nick is standing by the bed.
Exactly what I was thinking.
I never fully grasped the symbolic purpose of the eyes (I always relied heavily on Sparknotes to for theme analysis, as a young scholar), but I do remember them, because that was about the point that 15-year-old me started to become truly annoyed by that book.
A recurring point of irony in the books is that the characters all view the industrial zone between Long Island and Manhattan with disgust, but they make their money from trading stocks of the factories which pollute that industrial zone. The eyes symbolize God looking down on the wasteland of the industrial zone, in a play on the idea that the characters can lie to themselves about their hypocrisy, but they can't hide from God. Not in a religious way. Like I said, it's more a play on the idea. Basically they're saying that you can pretend to be a sophisticate whose better than the 'riffraff', but you're all part of the same society, so your judgment of the riffraff is actually judgment of yourself.
In a class discussion today, my teacher mentioned that they more than symbolized god: they symbolized the abandonment of godβa faded, uncared-for billboard; representing the empty promise that the novel is about.
That too, definitely! And to add to that, the uncared-for nature of the billboard might also speak to God's abandonment of humanity. The eyes symbolize God staring down in judgment of humanity (which George straight-up explains in dialogue). But the uncared-for and ignored nature of the billboard is indicative of a God which only has the power to judge, and little else. There's this irony of a humanity which has the power to destroy but not to judge its own power of destruction, and a God which has the power of judgement but not the power to smite. That in turn ties into the novel's overall themes of society's unfulfilled promises. Society is so huge that the gap between power and responsibility has grown too vast to overcome. Everything is spiraling out of control.
I don't know if your class covered this, but F. Scott and his wife Zelda were both just straight-up wretched human beings, locked in a codependent relationship which mostly just involved them abusing one another through increasingly ghastly schemes. Both of them based their art heavily on that personal drama. The surrealist thing is that *everybody* knew about these issues, and still, F. Scott and Zelda were wildly popular socialites. Possibly *because* of those issues. I mean ... never a dull moment. Anyways, to me, that detail really helps with making the Eckleberg theme click into place. F. Scott and Zelda both knew that their relationship was deeply toxic. The only hope was that society would draw a line in the sand, because neither of them had the capacity to do so. And F. Scott watched on, astounded, as the two of them acted openly horrific, yet the public only loved them more for it. I think the themes of God being abandoned can be tied to F. Scott's observations of judgment no longer having any meaning.
F. Scott falls into this interesting category of writers who were deeply flawed people, but also were highly skilled at using literature to examine their flaws. He's not a writer to idolize. But his works have value, because he is a person to learn from, and he was also skilled enough of a writer to portray this in a compelling fashion. Incidentally, if you like that type of writing, other similar writers would be Ernest Hemingway or Yukio Mishima. For me, I find that I get a lot from those sorts of books, but only in limited quantities. Oh, and I should also recommend Zelda's novel! It's called Save Me The Waltz.
Thanks for you kind response! Yeah I kinda wish Sparknotes could do a better job with explaining themes. They treat it as something to memorize, which makes the books seem more complicated. When themes are supposed to be the thing which helps make books more simple.
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You ever like gain some kind of information and shortly after gaining it thereβs a reference to it you wouldnβt have understood without it? Yeah that but with this
π = Oooooh, you seein' this shit? ποΈποΈ = I'm going to watch you sleep while I lick your shoes and fondle myself
I mean both can be that actually
But you can't ππ π with π.
but you can ππ π or π π
The hell does ππ π mean?
Horny spider
πππ ππ
π π π π π π π π π
Horny elder god?
Yes.
Horny Ophanim
πππ
Angel: Be not afraid Shepherds: Are afraid Angel:
[ΡΠ΄Π°Π»Π΅Π½ΠΎ]
Yes!
*Be Not Afraid*
Allow me to introduce you to 88w88
Got four eyes and looking to consume the souls of the innocent obviously.
πππ
Me, I'm sending ππ
personally I prefer ποΈπποΈ because the gap between the eyes looks funnier
I really can't wait for the biting_lip variant of the π emoji that we're getting in the next Unicode. That is going to be just something else Edit: I'm a little behind on the news, it seems, since Unicode 14 released about a month ago. So it's already out there for those who have more recent systems.
π«¦
Oh how I envy you.
I canβt see it either, but itβs there! :p
I'm several iOS iterations behind so whenever someone sends me an emoji I can't see I just put it into google so I can see a picture of it and act normal
I still don't even have the trans flag emoji. π
Same π
π means βtf is thisβ πππ means βbruhβ
π© ποΈπποΈ π€ He's on stage
ππ π
I prefer ποΈπποΈ because it looks like Anya Taylor Joy
Why are the eye emojis used changed between the outline version and colored version?
Why is your flair so, t h i c c
# ππ
Pog!!
ποΈποΈ
Itβs so weird to think that all this bullshit in The Great Gatsby happens because of this billboard and the guy probably never found out.
the billboard was Eckleberg's true form
I always read that as βDr. T.J. Eckleberg, Occultistβ
ππ
I JUST finished my Great Gatsby unit in English
Did you catch the scene where itβs heavily implied Nick has gay sex? End of chapter 2 if I remember correctly
Upon my latest reread it's a bit more than heavily implied...there's even a [whole sourced section on the wiki page of the character.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Carraway#:~:text=of%20tender%20curiosity.%22-,Queer%20reading,used%20as%20a%20phallic%20symbol.)
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No, now Iβm curious, explain
Do you remember the flamboyant cameraman at the party? Well, at the end of chapter 2 Nick (and maybe the cameraman) are both pretty drunk and get onto an elevator together. Then we jump forward in time (cause Nick kinda forgot what happened after that) to where the cameraman and Nick are in a bedroom together. If I remember correctly the cameraman is laying on the bed in his underwear and Nick is standing by the bed.
Exactly what I was thinking. I never fully grasped the symbolic purpose of the eyes (I always relied heavily on Sparknotes to for theme analysis, as a young scholar), but I do remember them, because that was about the point that 15-year-old me started to become truly annoyed by that book.
A recurring point of irony in the books is that the characters all view the industrial zone between Long Island and Manhattan with disgust, but they make their money from trading stocks of the factories which pollute that industrial zone. The eyes symbolize God looking down on the wasteland of the industrial zone, in a play on the idea that the characters can lie to themselves about their hypocrisy, but they can't hide from God. Not in a religious way. Like I said, it's more a play on the idea. Basically they're saying that you can pretend to be a sophisticate whose better than the 'riffraff', but you're all part of the same society, so your judgment of the riffraff is actually judgment of yourself.
In a class discussion today, my teacher mentioned that they more than symbolized god: they symbolized the abandonment of godβa faded, uncared-for billboard; representing the empty promise that the novel is about.
That too, definitely! And to add to that, the uncared-for nature of the billboard might also speak to God's abandonment of humanity. The eyes symbolize God staring down in judgment of humanity (which George straight-up explains in dialogue). But the uncared-for and ignored nature of the billboard is indicative of a God which only has the power to judge, and little else. There's this irony of a humanity which has the power to destroy but not to judge its own power of destruction, and a God which has the power of judgement but not the power to smite. That in turn ties into the novel's overall themes of society's unfulfilled promises. Society is so huge that the gap between power and responsibility has grown too vast to overcome. Everything is spiraling out of control. I don't know if your class covered this, but F. Scott and his wife Zelda were both just straight-up wretched human beings, locked in a codependent relationship which mostly just involved them abusing one another through increasingly ghastly schemes. Both of them based their art heavily on that personal drama. The surrealist thing is that *everybody* knew about these issues, and still, F. Scott and Zelda were wildly popular socialites. Possibly *because* of those issues. I mean ... never a dull moment. Anyways, to me, that detail really helps with making the Eckleberg theme click into place. F. Scott and Zelda both knew that their relationship was deeply toxic. The only hope was that society would draw a line in the sand, because neither of them had the capacity to do so. And F. Scott watched on, astounded, as the two of them acted openly horrific, yet the public only loved them more for it. I think the themes of God being abandoned can be tied to F. Scott's observations of judgment no longer having any meaning. F. Scott falls into this interesting category of writers who were deeply flawed people, but also were highly skilled at using literature to examine their flaws. He's not a writer to idolize. But his works have value, because he is a person to learn from, and he was also skilled enough of a writer to portray this in a compelling fashion. Incidentally, if you like that type of writing, other similar writers would be Ernest Hemingway or Yukio Mishima. For me, I find that I get a lot from those sorts of books, but only in limited quantities. Oh, and I should also recommend Zelda's novel! It's called Save Me The Waltz.
Huh, I guess that explains why basically every character in that novel was a horrible person.
You have explained that much better than Sparknotes did. Thank you! EDIT: USERNAME!!!
Thanks for you kind response! Yeah I kinda wish Sparknotes could do a better job with explaining themes. They treat it as something to memorize, which makes the books seem more complicated. When themes are supposed to be the thing which helps make books more simple.
I mean, Sparknotes is great if your primary goal is βpass Grade 10 Englishβ. I managed to get 90% on the midterm without understanding the book!
I would never pretend to be sophisticated, old sport.
There is no symbolic purpose, the cover artist came up with some random shit and he had to write it into the story.
Same here
Those Great Gatsby eyes!
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how does Text-to-Speech translate emojis? /gen
It will just describe what it sees. For example πΊπΈ will say something like american flag
ππ is like πππ but not the same. Itβs just πΆ Ya know?
He sees you
Count Olaf
One Olaf, two Olafs, three Olafs...
Finally
i send ππ to people to imply i am staring directly at them with intent to make them uncomfortable
π
Usually I hit my gf with the ππ if I get tiddy pics That or that one Pepe that says booba
what.
Yeah
Me, who uses ππ
Damnit, I *just* got it
After using this man and his stupid eyes in a literature essay I am in dispare.
ππ π
88w88
i didn't get this joke until several months after i read the book
read WHAT book
The Great Gatsby.
the
I hope you're joking because I'm wondering what exactly is funny about this post if you didn't know the context
Oculist? Surely you mean Occultist?
why do I always read oculist as occultist?
#ππ
I used to draw eyes constantly on my notebook in tenth grade lmao
oculist riff
Those are the eyes of their patients...
π = "Oh?" ποΈποΈ = Big wet oculars
tma
Fuck the Jazz age
Corned beef flaps
elias
@w@
ποΈWποΈ what's this?
You ever like gain some kind of information and shortly after gaining it thereβs a reference to it you wouldnβt have understood without it? Yeah that but with this
Is this also a Great Gatsby reference?
π "...but that's just my opinion." ποΈποΈ"I am looking disprespectfully"
ποΈποΈπͺ
The old baton rouge killer police sketch eyes.