It’s not weak policy it’s possibly the strongest action Biden could’ve taken without risking it getting taken down in court. Bigger change like the one you want needs congress.
Take what we can get today to keep fighting for others tomorrow
True. We need to be smart with who we vote for for. You don’t realize how important that is. But until then, the presidents best option is that they have to execute this executive actions, cause republicans and democrats always screw each other in any compromise regarding immigration. Trump told republicans not to approve the last bill trying to fix the asylum issue, so that he can have immigration as an issue he can “fight for” in this upcoming election. Pathetic
Amnesty for current immigrants that are undocumented would be a political nightmare for any politician due to the current border situation.
This will unlikely be popular here, but strengthening the current border and creating better legal avenues for immigration would lead people to be more open to amnesty for immigrants that are already here, especially ones that had no choice in coming here.
Current policy either way creates a massive group of people that are easy to exploit, something I doubt many corporations mind.
Honestly, and I know it doesn’t sound like much and it sounds hopeless but talk to people. Sometimes I feel like I consume too much political news for my own good but it’s helped me understand the way government works and lot better.
And even though I can’t vote it’s helped me talk to people I know who are citizens & may be undecided about voting or don’t vote at all. Selling them on progressive candidates &why it’s beneficial and on how honestly dangerous republicans are for the country right now.
At the end of the day, if we ever get what we want it’ll have to come from congress.
To be fair Biden gave Venezuelan migrants status, housing, and credit cards, but he can’t give a pathway to citizenship, kinda fee like he’s giving us scraps, personally I’m doing fine but it does feel like we’re not as important to his votes as the migrants are
From my understanding that was through Temporary protective status for Venezuelans who were arriving at the border though, which at the time I believe he had only approved for 18 months? Eventually they started deporting them when they arrived
And even that I recall being taken to court by those who opposed it. I’m not super familiar with that whole situation though
I agree plus he did it without congress by executive order so let's not pretend like he can't do anything, he rolled out the red carpet for them and spat in our faces. Then on top of that if you read the website the info about this you will find out the migrants are getting work permits that will last them 3 years while we still get 2 years explain to me how that is fair and we are not getting scraps or being forgotten. The reason someone of us are upset is we are noticing that the president is playing favorites. He rolls out the red carpet for migrants but when it comes to us it's nothing but excuses.
Yeah just like daca got done just through executive order which is why it’s in the mess that it’s in now. Of course he could’ve and then it would immediately get struck down in court. Remember DAPA? Guess why that got struck down? Executive order
Good on him for learning from that
Yeah you’re right, maybe I was too short sighted. Being here for over 20 years under the same lack of legal status doesn’t help. I’ve told myself to not expect anything and I felt like for a moment there I thought something had changed
Nah I get you man, believe me I’m tired of this limbo we’re all in too and I also get frustrated. Do you not qualify under either option Biden proposed today?
Try living in your home country. The government owes us nothing. We are here voluntarily because we like it. We are stuck with it. We either adapt, or do what they are asking us to do. Marry a USC or pursue a higher degree. Or stay with DACA until it goes.
i've stuck with it, adapted, got a college degree at a top10 institution, valedictorian of my class, going to medical school now, but god forbid I don't want to marry somebody because I havent found her yet, maybe I never will. Yet is it too much to ask for a pathway to citizenship? I feel OP its frustrating
But in your case can't u still apply for a pathway to citizenship since you went to college and getting a job within your career field? Or did they put a time limit/ date in which to have accomplished this task as well?
Voluntarily???? i dont think being forced to come here as a baby is voluntarily and than not being able to leave is cause I like it?? im not trying to speak for everyone but I feel theres many people who were infants when they came and would love to leave atp but cause of finances, like cant even get a decent job to work to afford to leave. ur right tho the gov owes us nothing so the same is vice versa, we dont owe them our taxes, our work or support. Idk what it is with the mentality of a lot of you guys on this sub telling us to be greatful for getting fed crumbs but y'all seem like great people /s.
We remain here voluntarily. We came by no decision of our own, but we stayed because we know we have it better here with DACA than anywhere else.
A bus ticket is $50. A flight ticket is no less than $600 one way.
I mean assuming all of us came from mexico or acting like mexico is the only place to go to is odd but okay. There are a lot of developing countries in south america and developed that arent doing too ba. obviously the minority but i came from eastern europe and now it seems like a better option for me to move back there and be able to live a normal legal life after i finish college than wait around for DACA to work or to get married
DACA was put in place as a temporary fix until the Dream Act passed. We cannot be legalized without the Dream act making it through congress.
You have always had that choice.
First of all, 16-17 is the age where someone is still within the 10th-12th grade. Which further proves the point that by then, the individual has systemically been learning the US system and has abided by it for years. Tell me, how can someone like that be plopped back to their "home country" and be successful in living a better life back in the "home country"? Knowing damn well they never learned anything about their home country's system and laws. Smh 🤓 tell me something I don't know
When your parents move to America you think they know the system,laws and the languague 🤔 👀 ,tell me something i dont know ,and at least your parents was in there 20s..... or maybe olders...y si sabes español o eres un no sabo kid 👀
Horrible argument there buddy. Maybe our parents did make decisions that affect our lives, but it's about improving the lifestyle for individuals who had to suffer the decision making process from their parents who had control over their lives before they can even say goo goo ga ga. Wtf does knowing Spanish have to do with any of this argument? Are you going to ask a South Asian individual on DACA if they know their home country's language fluently? It's irrelevant to the original topic at hand.
honestly even what he did for those with college degrees isn’t enough…. I have a graduate degree and work for big tech. Yes now I can be sponsored but that means I still have to wait at least a few years before getting a green card contingent on not getting laid off before it goes through. this policy is absolute garbage. We DO deserve better because we have been paying a shit load of taxes
Who says that paying taxes grants you a green card? These are the current rules of the game. If you pay taxes, that’s on you. I pay taxes but I am entitled to nothing and I know that.
I have been on DACA since 2012. I recognize that most immigrants want a status out of sheer entitlement. Things will never change unless we recognize that we are entitled to nothing.
It’s not about entitlement. It’s 12 years of contributing to the US and still being undocumented. 12 years of being used only to benefit the U.S government. We’ve contributed over $6.2 BILLION in federal taxes $3.3 BILLION in state and local taxes and WE STILL DO NOT HAVE A LEGAL STATUS.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/06/15/the-biden-harris-administration-celebrates-the-contributions-of-dreamers-on-ten-year-anniversary-of-daca/#:~:text=DACA%20households%20have%20significant%20spending,and%20local%20taxes%20each%20year.
It’s like when you annual/biannual review at work comes around and they tell you, oh you’ve done so much to help improve the company, we’ve hit record profit numbers blah blah blah but all we are giving you is a 25 cent raise. That’s a slap on the face. So what do we do, we quit that job and look for another one that will pay us what we are worth.
Some of us are just tired of being in this limbo. We should not have to marry someone just to obtain a legal status. This new EO Biden just release it’s BS because is something many other countries like Canada are already doing. It took them this long to catch up .
So yes, things should change and we do DESERVE a legal status.
That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard someone say. Try living in your home country? DACA was supposed to be a temporary “deferred action” hence the backronym for it, meaning that a permanent action will be pursued at a later date and it has not done so. The government has not pursued this permanent action. The government owes us a permanent action due to DACA being implemented in the first place. Otherwise, the existence of DACA is useless and unethical. And that’s being very generous.
I’ve got my BS and will be marrying my fiancée by this time next year. This isn’t just about me, it’s about the countless others in situations they can’t help but be in
You're literally complaining about a policy because it doesn't apply to you. This policy applies to ~500k individuals plus their families. So in practice it affects millions. It's the biggest thing that has happened regarding immigration since DACA and DAPA. This is not nothing.
Deserve and want are two different things. Also, you are home, the country you came from isn’t home anymore, if it were, you’d be there. If the price to pay for being here is simply not being able to “travel freely”. Then I’ll pay that price any day of the week.
Look if you want to settle for the scraps of a EAD you have to renew every 2 years, go ahead. If you want the U.S government to still have you by a leash, telling you what you can and can’t do, that’s on you.
But I’m not. DACA recipients have contributed tremendously to the US and the fact that I don’t even get to choose who represents me, it’s crazy. After 12 years, and I’m still undocumented, feeding a country while I’m starving, it’s crazy.
And like I said before, this EO Biden just released is BS. Other countries have already been granting PR or citizenship based on level of education , profession, and some even will pay you to live in their countries.
So I’m happy for those who will benefit from this EO, but it could have been so much better. We deserve so much more.
Of course you can travel back home. You can go now! You just won't be able to come back (unless you have AP). No one is forcing you to stay. Try and see.
Imagine complaining about DACA not being enough. At least you can work legally, drive freely without worrying about the police stopping you and impounding your car, and travel to any U.S. state. You have it good compared to those who have nothing.
Imagine being fed the same meal for 12 years. At first you’re excited that you get curry because maybe for the last 18 years all you ate was rice. But even when you ate rice, you knew you wanted more, you wanted something different. Why settle for the curry when there’s a world full of cuisine to have.
what hurts is that you know they won't be doing anything else anytime soon until the elections and if biden wins, he won't be doing shit in the next 4 years too
Honestly I agree with you, weak ass policy that has strict criteria lol. I have two associates degree, own a home, perfect record with nothing but a speeding ticket from like 6 years ago, have a daughter with a U.S. citizen that is American. But I can’t get residency because I haven’t married her yet but we are planning on doing so. But like everybody says it’s our fault for coming here illegally when I was 1 year old like I had a choice lol ! I’m 27 now.
A DACA recipient in a Facebook group said this, and I agree:
Whenever progress happens, a lot of people are quick to say “well what about ME/US! We’ve been waiting.” But think about it, what have YOU/US done to create change? Have you organized a protest/rally? Have you reached out to your congress and local community? Have you gone to DC to reach out to the politicians? Have you organized ANYTHING other than vocalize on Facebook pages your disdain for OTHERS benefiting where you don’t fit.
Think about this, some of the original dreamers who did all the hard work and labor were excluded from daca because of age. Most of our parents ARE the original dreamers and are STILL in limbo while you benefit. Do your parents sit on the couch and look at you and say “BUT WHAT ABOUT ME? SCREW YOU!”
We’ve lived long enough on this earth to know there is no equal, we have to give concessions to get them.
Everyone saying you have a victim mentality because you’re calling out the Biden administration for this chicken shit move, are the same that cry about anything a republican says. Double standards. The reality is we get fucked over all the time by both sides.
I love reading all the DACA holders complaining that they did not get green cards!
How selfish can you guys be!!
Imagine complaining that you are able to work, own a house, and able to travel using AP to possibly fix your status permanently.
All of you have a way out. Do AP, and "marry" someone and you will get a green card in less than a year. This is a loop hole that was given to you!!!
What you wanted from Biden can not be done because it needs to pass thru congress.
Man, how I WISH I was in your shoes right now.
I am not in a relationship, so the whole ap and marry route isn't an option now. I dont want it to be handed to me. I want a path with criteria. Say, for example, the bill that 2 senators are proposing of granting citizenship to those that serve in the military. I would sign up in a heartbeat. I am almost done with my engineering degree, and I want to pursue a masters and a phd. My option right now is to hold hope for a work sponsorship once I am done with school. I don't want a handout. I want a path that I can follow to get citizenship, that's all. That's what Congress refuses to do. So this bullshit announcement was nothing new we all know marrying a USC is the easiest route.
Also, why tf do I have to go back to my country for any amount of time just to re-enter? That’s a stupid waste of time. I’m literally right here. USCIS has run background checks on me. The act of “oh well, you weren’t “inspected” when you came in” seems stupid when you’re already present.
Parole in place shouldn’t be something exclusive to spouses like Biden’s recent action. It should be available as appropriate.
But again, this is something that needs to be undone by congress. It’s needless complexity in the immigration system.
I’m not complaining for myself but for my fully undocumented husband, the whole “just marry a USC” comments rub me the wrong way. I’m not leaving my spouse and father or our 2 USC kids for papers.
Respectfully that’s just live. A lot of us have degrees and won’t qualify because we don’t select the “right” degree.
Nobody in live deserves anything that’s how it is.
A lot of us got upset, even myself but after thinking about it. I’m really happy for the people that will benefit from it.
If we somehow got green cards a lot of us would be celebrating still. But we would forget about the others.
You’re willing to jeopardize everything you have for 5 years in jail and up to $250,000 in fines and possible getting banned from the U.S just to get legal status. That is marriage fraud if I just “marry” a US citizen to become a PR or US Citizen.
If me knowing what I’m worth and what I deserve is being selfish, so be it. I’m not going to settle for scraps handed to me when I DESERVE so much more.
The U.S. was built of immigrants. While white people in the 1800s- early 1900s were coming here as immigrants the U.S. had no issues granting them citizenship. All of them were citizens by their 10 year mark of living in the U.S. But God forbid any people of color coming to the U.S and trying to claim the same rights.
Former president Trump was found GUILTY OF 34 FELONIES! If any DACA recipients was to even get one we would be denied of everything. But I can’t get a green card. Me who has had and maintained a clean record for 12 years.
Congress can pass a law to provide a path to citizenship but they do not want to because they will lose more than gain more from giving us that path.
https://www.coalitionfortheamericandream.us/daca-economics/
This is what would happen if DACA was to completely be removed. I like to also think of it as this is what would happen if every DACA “gave it back and went back to their home countries.
Now if we collectively as a group are able to make this big of an impact to a country why aren’t we given and equal impactful status. We are still do not have a legal status, no pathway to anything, we are still stuck.
Honestly I feel like the cutoff date for this EO is what really screwed us over. This would’ve given a lot of people the opportunity to adjust via marriage, but no , you gotta have been married on or before June 18.
I have an 18 month old. Might be 20 years until I can get a green card. If that’s still a thing in the future. 😭all jokes aside. I’m thankful for DACA.
Maybe you should've become a citizen, the legal way, instead. I get it, you're being productive, but nobody "owes"you anything. I deserve more too, and I was born and raised in the states
I get the frustration but you sound incredibly entitled. If this doesn't motivate you to get a degree in something and make your life better then you're content being a Reddit complainer.
I understand your frustration and feeling let down by this weak policy. We do deserve more. But let me ask you, what have you done to advance the DACA movement? Have you organized any protests or sit-ins? It’s easy to vent online, but real change requires concrete actions. If we want more, we need to push harder and make our voices heard where it matters.
Unfortunately the only branch that can give us something permanent to all of us is congress. Which I do not see this happening.
I am really hoping that when Supreme Court ends DACA in 25-26. It will put some pressure in congress and make something permanent.
How is it trying to get votes if you can't vote? Shit like this makes me want to vote for the guy not doing this. Ungrateful asses. Commence the downvotes here since you can't vote in actual elections.
There were 60 senators that were mostly Dems and a couple of independents. A lot of those Dems and independents were very conservative. Hell that's the ACA took so long to pass and it was the reason that a public option failed to pass.
Are you being serious? 72 days is nothing when drafting a major policy lol. The dream act also almost passed but failed because of five conservative Dems.
But you're right, fuck the guy that got us DACA.
Little bone? I was close to being deported before DACA and working a minimum wage job with almost no prospects. Because of DACA, I am not deported, I finished college, I have a cushy job, I have a home that'll be paid off in 6 years, I have started saving for retirement, and I have gotten to travel all around the US. Is DACA enough? Absofuckinglutely not. But it's not just some scraps, it's done a 180 to my life and to many others.
Also, WE CAN'T FUCKING VOTE.
By the way, good luck if Trump wins trying to renewing that DACA. Guess what, that’s the whole point: democrats never fix the immigration system because it helps them having you professing how great they are. Republicans at least are honest about hating anyone who is not white.
Fuck it bro I’m over the political bullshit and being used as a puppet to get them votes. Shit conveniently happens during elections. I’m happy to be able to live in the US and being able to own a home and have a job. I am getting tired 🥱 f having to pay them every two years and prices just went up to.
You guys got screwed badly by the democrats. Yet you will still vote for them. They never had the powers allocated to give you citizenship. Y’all are fucked
It’s not weak policy it’s possibly the strongest action Biden could’ve taken without risking it getting taken down in court. Bigger change like the one you want needs congress. Take what we can get today to keep fighting for others tomorrow
True. We need to be smart with who we vote for for. You don’t realize how important that is. But until then, the presidents best option is that they have to execute this executive actions, cause republicans and democrats always screw each other in any compromise regarding immigration. Trump told republicans not to approve the last bill trying to fix the asylum issue, so that he can have immigration as an issue he can “fight for” in this upcoming election. Pathetic
What can we do? What can we actually do to make things happen? I’m tired of waiting. There must be something else we can do
Amnesty for current immigrants that are undocumented would be a political nightmare for any politician due to the current border situation. This will unlikely be popular here, but strengthening the current border and creating better legal avenues for immigration would lead people to be more open to amnesty for immigrants that are already here, especially ones that had no choice in coming here. Current policy either way creates a massive group of people that are easy to exploit, something I doubt many corporations mind.
Honestly, and I know it doesn’t sound like much and it sounds hopeless but talk to people. Sometimes I feel like I consume too much political news for my own good but it’s helped me understand the way government works and lot better. And even though I can’t vote it’s helped me talk to people I know who are citizens & may be undecided about voting or don’t vote at all. Selling them on progressive candidates &why it’s beneficial and on how honestly dangerous republicans are for the country right now. At the end of the day, if we ever get what we want it’ll have to come from congress.
To be fair Biden gave Venezuelan migrants status, housing, and credit cards, but he can’t give a pathway to citizenship, kinda fee like he’s giving us scraps, personally I’m doing fine but it does feel like we’re not as important to his votes as the migrants are
From my understanding that was through Temporary protective status for Venezuelans who were arriving at the border though, which at the time I believe he had only approved for 18 months? Eventually they started deporting them when they arrived And even that I recall being taken to court by those who opposed it. I’m not super familiar with that whole situation though
I agree plus he did it without congress by executive order so let's not pretend like he can't do anything, he rolled out the red carpet for them and spat in our faces. Then on top of that if you read the website the info about this you will find out the migrants are getting work permits that will last them 3 years while we still get 2 years explain to me how that is fair and we are not getting scraps or being forgotten. The reason someone of us are upset is we are noticing that the president is playing favorites. He rolls out the red carpet for migrants but when it comes to us it's nothing but excuses.
Yeah just like daca got done just through executive order which is why it’s in the mess that it’s in now. Of course he could’ve and then it would immediately get struck down in court. Remember DAPA? Guess why that got struck down? Executive order Good on him for learning from that
Yeah you’re right, maybe I was too short sighted. Being here for over 20 years under the same lack of legal status doesn’t help. I’ve told myself to not expect anything and I felt like for a moment there I thought something had changed
Yeah, I've learned not the trust anything any of them say tbh. Better to live assuming it never happens and be pleasently surprised if it does
I agree I need to be more skeptical, they've shown that they can't be trusted.
Nah I get you man, believe me I’m tired of this limbo we’re all in too and I also get frustrated. Do you not qualify under either option Biden proposed today?
I agree I was telling myself not to expect anything and I fell for the trick.
Try living in your home country. The government owes us nothing. We are here voluntarily because we like it. We are stuck with it. We either adapt, or do what they are asking us to do. Marry a USC or pursue a higher degree. Or stay with DACA until it goes.
I like this guy. No victim mentality.
Being critical of anything isn’t playing victim fyi
Did I say being critical of anything is playing victim in my previous comment? Can you quote where you read that?
i've stuck with it, adapted, got a college degree at a top10 institution, valedictorian of my class, going to medical school now, but god forbid I don't want to marry somebody because I havent found her yet, maybe I never will. Yet is it too much to ask for a pathway to citizenship? I feel OP its frustrating
But in your case can't u still apply for a pathway to citizenship since you went to college and getting a job within your career field? Or did they put a time limit/ date in which to have accomplished this task as well?
I'm not sure because it seems like you NEED a work sponsorship, but technically I'm just a student.
even with a sponsor it’s not that easy and takes years to get a green card
You’re literally doing it right. Med school will get you that pathway.
thank you
same here, it was just a pony show to get votes before the election
If you don’t mind me asking, how’re you paying for school??
private loans, some programs out there that fortunately support daca students
I’ve only been referred to sally mae :/ and it seems the facts scholarship’s are only for Latin/carribean and I’m neither
im neither as well and I ended up being offered stuff from various programs, it's tough though in general yeah
Couldn’t have said it better
Voluntarily???? i dont think being forced to come here as a baby is voluntarily and than not being able to leave is cause I like it?? im not trying to speak for everyone but I feel theres many people who were infants when they came and would love to leave atp but cause of finances, like cant even get a decent job to work to afford to leave. ur right tho the gov owes us nothing so the same is vice versa, we dont owe them our taxes, our work or support. Idk what it is with the mentality of a lot of you guys on this sub telling us to be greatful for getting fed crumbs but y'all seem like great people /s.
Tell them you are illegal and for sure they are send you home,there you dont need to spend money in a flight~
We remain here voluntarily. We came by no decision of our own, but we stayed because we know we have it better here with DACA than anywhere else. A bus ticket is $50. A flight ticket is no less than $600 one way.
I mean assuming all of us came from mexico or acting like mexico is the only place to go to is odd but okay. There are a lot of developing countries in south america and developed that arent doing too ba. obviously the minority but i came from eastern europe and now it seems like a better option for me to move back there and be able to live a normal legal life after i finish college than wait around for DACA to work or to get married
DACA was put in place as a temporary fix until the Dream Act passed. We cannot be legalized without the Dream act making it through congress. You have always had that choice.
Lol fr, because at the age of 6 months old I was like "Yea ima come to the US because I feel like it!"
At 16/17 years old you can decide to go back home or stay with DACA right 🤔
First of all, 16-17 is the age where someone is still within the 10th-12th grade. Which further proves the point that by then, the individual has systemically been learning the US system and has abided by it for years. Tell me, how can someone like that be plopped back to their "home country" and be successful in living a better life back in the "home country"? Knowing damn well they never learned anything about their home country's system and laws. Smh 🤓 tell me something I don't know
When your parents move to America you think they know the system,laws and the languague 🤔 👀 ,tell me something i dont know ,and at least your parents was in there 20s..... or maybe olders...y si sabes español o eres un no sabo kid 👀
Horrible argument there buddy. Maybe our parents did make decisions that affect our lives, but it's about improving the lifestyle for individuals who had to suffer the decision making process from their parents who had control over their lives before they can even say goo goo ga ga. Wtf does knowing Spanish have to do with any of this argument? Are you going to ask a South Asian individual on DACA if they know their home country's language fluently? It's irrelevant to the original topic at hand.
What is stopping you now?
I was just about to say the same, we don’t deserve anything .
It’s okay to want more. Some of us came without choice..
honestly even what he did for those with college degrees isn’t enough…. I have a graduate degree and work for big tech. Yes now I can be sponsored but that means I still have to wait at least a few years before getting a green card contingent on not getting laid off before it goes through. this policy is absolute garbage. We DO deserve better because we have been paying a shit load of taxes
Who says that paying taxes grants you a green card? These are the current rules of the game. If you pay taxes, that’s on you. I pay taxes but I am entitled to nothing and I know that.
are you even a daca holder? you sound like a troll lol
I have been on DACA since 2012. I recognize that most immigrants want a status out of sheer entitlement. Things will never change unless we recognize that we are entitled to nothing.
must a delusional trump supporter from your response then… haha
I am 100% not a trump supporter. In fact I am a liberal. Nuts it’s cool if you want to call me names at this point.
It’s not about entitlement. It’s 12 years of contributing to the US and still being undocumented. 12 years of being used only to benefit the U.S government. We’ve contributed over $6.2 BILLION in federal taxes $3.3 BILLION in state and local taxes and WE STILL DO NOT HAVE A LEGAL STATUS. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/06/15/the-biden-harris-administration-celebrates-the-contributions-of-dreamers-on-ten-year-anniversary-of-daca/#:~:text=DACA%20households%20have%20significant%20spending,and%20local%20taxes%20each%20year. It’s like when you annual/biannual review at work comes around and they tell you, oh you’ve done so much to help improve the company, we’ve hit record profit numbers blah blah blah but all we are giving you is a 25 cent raise. That’s a slap on the face. So what do we do, we quit that job and look for another one that will pay us what we are worth. Some of us are just tired of being in this limbo. We should not have to marry someone just to obtain a legal status. This new EO Biden just release it’s BS because is something many other countries like Canada are already doing. It took them this long to catch up . So yes, things should change and we do DESERVE a legal status.
That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard someone say. Try living in your home country? DACA was supposed to be a temporary “deferred action” hence the backronym for it, meaning that a permanent action will be pursued at a later date and it has not done so. The government has not pursued this permanent action. The government owes us a permanent action due to DACA being implemented in the first place. Otherwise, the existence of DACA is useless and unethical. And that’s being very generous.
I’ve got my BS and will be marrying my fiancée by this time next year. This isn’t just about me, it’s about the countless others in situations they can’t help but be in
And you are complaining?
You're literally complaining about a policy because it doesn't apply to you. This policy applies to ~500k individuals plus their families. So in practice it affects millions. It's the biggest thing that has happened regarding immigration since DACA and DAPA. This is not nothing.
Can't you still apply since you got a degree and possibly working within that career field? I thought marriage was just a 2nd option.
Then why are you complaining if we assume your fiance is a USC you get your status eventually? 🤨
Life unfair, at least it’s helping
True, I’m glad it’s helping some people. But once again I got my hopes up.
Getting your hopes up and being disappointed is what the American dream is all about, right? 🤣😂 I also expected better
That’s on you.
Perdón por tener esperanza
That's what I've been saying but people are saying I'm being ungrateful 😝
lol my taxes say otherwise, they use our taxes for their social security
I don’t recommend fucking anything up.
lol there’s many ways of fucking shit up
Have yu guys tried going back to schoool?
Yes I have my degree, thanks for advice
Praise brother,
Yes but I can't afford it anymore.
Why do we deserve more?
We deserve to not live in limbo. We deserve to be able to travel back home. Do you not think you deserve to be able to travel freely?
Deserve and want are two different things. Also, you are home, the country you came from isn’t home anymore, if it were, you’d be there. If the price to pay for being here is simply not being able to “travel freely”. Then I’ll pay that price any day of the week.
Look if you want to settle for the scraps of a EAD you have to renew every 2 years, go ahead. If you want the U.S government to still have you by a leash, telling you what you can and can’t do, that’s on you. But I’m not. DACA recipients have contributed tremendously to the US and the fact that I don’t even get to choose who represents me, it’s crazy. After 12 years, and I’m still undocumented, feeding a country while I’m starving, it’s crazy. And like I said before, this EO Biden just released is BS. Other countries have already been granting PR or citizenship based on level of education , profession, and some even will pay you to live in their countries. So I’m happy for those who will benefit from this EO, but it could have been so much better. We deserve so much more.
Of course you can travel back home. You can go now! You just won't be able to come back (unless you have AP). No one is forcing you to stay. Try and see.
Imagine complaining about DACA not being enough. At least you can work legally, drive freely without worrying about the police stopping you and impounding your car, and travel to any U.S. state. You have it good compared to those who have nothing.
Imagine being fed the same meal for 12 years. At first you’re excited that you get curry because maybe for the last 18 years all you ate was rice. But even when you ate rice, you knew you wanted more, you wanted something different. Why settle for the curry when there’s a world full of cuisine to have.
what hurts is that you know they won't be doing anything else anytime soon until the elections and if biden wins, he won't be doing shit in the next 4 years too
Like clock work
This is so true it would be just another wasted 4 years if he gets back in. I bet if Trump wins again the democrats will pretend to care about us.
That’s how it always is. It’s sickening what they do and say to get votes. Pretend like they care, but only for optics. That’s both parties btw
Both parties suck
Honestly I agree with you, weak ass policy that has strict criteria lol. I have two associates degree, own a home, perfect record with nothing but a speeding ticket from like 6 years ago, have a daughter with a U.S. citizen that is American. But I can’t get residency because I haven’t married her yet but we are planning on doing so. But like everybody says it’s our fault for coming here illegally when I was 1 year old like I had a choice lol ! I’m 27 now.
Keep waiting until your daughter is 21 🤔 or get married you are in your way to a GC!
Yeah that’s true it’s just annoying how much daca has been around and they haven’t changed nothing.
I'm curious of why you haven't gotten married yet.
Honestly I’ve been wanting to do it i just keep procrastinating so it’s sort of my fault also
Get that shit done asap and (if needed) apply for AP in the meantime.
A DACA recipient in a Facebook group said this, and I agree: Whenever progress happens, a lot of people are quick to say “well what about ME/US! We’ve been waiting.” But think about it, what have YOU/US done to create change? Have you organized a protest/rally? Have you reached out to your congress and local community? Have you gone to DC to reach out to the politicians? Have you organized ANYTHING other than vocalize on Facebook pages your disdain for OTHERS benefiting where you don’t fit. Think about this, some of the original dreamers who did all the hard work and labor were excluded from daca because of age. Most of our parents ARE the original dreamers and are STILL in limbo while you benefit. Do your parents sit on the couch and look at you and say “BUT WHAT ABOUT ME? SCREW YOU!” We’ve lived long enough on this earth to know there is no equal, we have to give concessions to get them.
Everyone saying you have a victim mentality because you’re calling out the Biden administration for this chicken shit move, are the same that cry about anything a republican says. Double standards. The reality is we get fucked over all the time by both sides.
lol
I love reading all the DACA holders complaining that they did not get green cards! How selfish can you guys be!! Imagine complaining that you are able to work, own a house, and able to travel using AP to possibly fix your status permanently. All of you have a way out. Do AP, and "marry" someone and you will get a green card in less than a year. This is a loop hole that was given to you!!! What you wanted from Biden can not be done because it needs to pass thru congress. Man, how I WISH I was in your shoes right now.
I am not in a relationship, so the whole ap and marry route isn't an option now. I dont want it to be handed to me. I want a path with criteria. Say, for example, the bill that 2 senators are proposing of granting citizenship to those that serve in the military. I would sign up in a heartbeat. I am almost done with my engineering degree, and I want to pursue a masters and a phd. My option right now is to hold hope for a work sponsorship once I am done with school. I don't want a handout. I want a path that I can follow to get citizenship, that's all. That's what Congress refuses to do. So this bullshit announcement was nothing new we all know marrying a USC is the easiest route.
Also, why tf do I have to go back to my country for any amount of time just to re-enter? That’s a stupid waste of time. I’m literally right here. USCIS has run background checks on me. The act of “oh well, you weren’t “inspected” when you came in” seems stupid when you’re already present. Parole in place shouldn’t be something exclusive to spouses like Biden’s recent action. It should be available as appropriate. But again, this is something that needs to be undone by congress. It’s needless complexity in the immigration system.
I’m not complaining for myself but for my fully undocumented husband, the whole “just marry a USC” comments rub me the wrong way. I’m not leaving my spouse and father or our 2 USC kids for papers.
Respectfully that’s just live. A lot of us have degrees and won’t qualify because we don’t select the “right” degree. Nobody in live deserves anything that’s how it is. A lot of us got upset, even myself but after thinking about it. I’m really happy for the people that will benefit from it. If we somehow got green cards a lot of us would be celebrating still. But we would forget about the others.
But why you complaint? You have 2 kids guessing are 6/7 years old in 15 years you can get a GC from your kids and your husband too!
Not that selfish for wanting a form of permanent residency when we've went to school and worked here just like others who were born here.
You’re willing to jeopardize everything you have for 5 years in jail and up to $250,000 in fines and possible getting banned from the U.S just to get legal status. That is marriage fraud if I just “marry” a US citizen to become a PR or US Citizen. If me knowing what I’m worth and what I deserve is being selfish, so be it. I’m not going to settle for scraps handed to me when I DESERVE so much more. The U.S. was built of immigrants. While white people in the 1800s- early 1900s were coming here as immigrants the U.S. had no issues granting them citizenship. All of them were citizens by their 10 year mark of living in the U.S. But God forbid any people of color coming to the U.S and trying to claim the same rights. Former president Trump was found GUILTY OF 34 FELONIES! If any DACA recipients was to even get one we would be denied of everything. But I can’t get a green card. Me who has had and maintained a clean record for 12 years. Congress can pass a law to provide a path to citizenship but they do not want to because they will lose more than gain more from giving us that path.
Grow some ballz
I’m hoping the eventually there will be a pathway to citizenship.
I can’t help but to think this post is Astro turf. Literally steps in the right direction.
No mereces nada, adiós muchacho
lol why do you deserve more? If you're so pissed, give your DACA back and go home where you get all you deserve.
https://www.coalitionfortheamericandream.us/daca-economics/ This is what would happen if DACA was to completely be removed. I like to also think of it as this is what would happen if every DACA “gave it back and went back to their home countries. Now if we collectively as a group are able to make this big of an impact to a country why aren’t we given and equal impactful status. We are still do not have a legal status, no pathway to anything, we are still stuck.
The economy would take a major hit if every undocumented person just quit but Republicans don't care.
Honestly I feel like the cutoff date for this EO is what really screwed us over. This would’ve given a lot of people the opportunity to adjust via marriage, but no , you gotta have been married on or before June 18.
I’m more Americanized and successful than your average American. Yes, I deserve more than this.
WOW! Ungrateful much? this guy is doing what he can LEGALLY do to help us.
Weak men
Yall just love to complain. This policy will help a lot of people.
Op I appreciate you telling the truth even though it's unpopular to say that here.
This is a better than nothing move. It helps such a small number of people, extremely small.
When does it go into effect?
I have an 18 month old. Might be 20 years until I can get a green card. If that’s still a thing in the future. 😭all jokes aside. I’m thankful for DACA.
Stop complaning and Go back bro
Deserve is a strong word.
Anybody know when the policy will go into effect?
Maybe you should've become a citizen, the legal way, instead. I get it, you're being productive, but nobody "owes"you anything. I deserve more too, and I was born and raised in the states
I get the frustration but you sound incredibly entitled. If this doesn't motivate you to get a degree in something and make your life better then you're content being a Reddit complainer.
I understand your frustration and feeling let down by this weak policy. We do deserve more. But let me ask you, what have you done to advance the DACA movement? Have you organized any protests or sit-ins? It’s easy to vent online, but real change requires concrete actions. If we want more, we need to push harder and make our voices heard where it matters.
But if the war starts with Russia best believe they gonna want us in it no matter your status
Unfortunately the only branch that can give us something permanent to all of us is congress. Which I do not see this happening. I am really hoping that when Supreme Court ends DACA in 25-26. It will put some pressure in congress and make something permanent.
Oh what a coincidence, Biden proposes an executive order in an election year. Funny huh?
And Chetto man try to take DACA down,wich one you choose 🤔
How is it trying to get votes if you can't vote? Shit like this makes me want to vote for the guy not doing this. Ungrateful asses. Commence the downvotes here since you can't vote in actual elections.
Here come the bootlickers to tell you to be grateful
I understand you 100% Obama had the a filibuster proof majority and didn’t do shit for us immigrants. Fuck both parties.
There were 60 senators that were mostly Dems and a couple of independents. A lot of those Dems and independents were very conservative. Hell that's the ACA took so long to pass and it was the reason that a public option failed to pass.
Obama had 72 days to pass anything he wanted BBBUUUUTTT nooooooo! He wasted time reaching across the aisle. Fuck him!!
Are you being serious? 72 days is nothing when drafting a major policy lol. The dream act also almost passed but failed because of five conservative Dems. But you're right, fuck the guy that got us DACA.
Yeah let’s be happy on that little bone 🦴 fuck! Let’s vote democrat for ever and never getting more than the scraps 👍
Little bone? I was close to being deported before DACA and working a minimum wage job with almost no prospects. Because of DACA, I am not deported, I finished college, I have a cushy job, I have a home that'll be paid off in 6 years, I have started saving for retirement, and I have gotten to travel all around the US. Is DACA enough? Absofuckinglutely not. But it's not just some scraps, it's done a 180 to my life and to many others. Also, WE CAN'T FUCKING VOTE.
DACA did nothing for mom. So fuck Obama and fuck the entire democrats party.
Yeah you're not very bright....
By the way, good luck if Trump wins trying to renewing that DACA. Guess what, that’s the whole point: democrats never fix the immigration system because it helps them having you professing how great they are. Republicans at least are honest about hating anyone who is not white.
If you have DACA you should stop applying for it. Don't take the bone! That'll show them!
Fuck it bro I’m over the political bullshit and being used as a puppet to get them votes. Shit conveniently happens during elections. I’m happy to be able to live in the US and being able to own a home and have a job. I am getting tired 🥱 f having to pay them every two years and prices just went up to.
You have your own home and have a job? Wanna switch lives? I dont have DACA or a home. I would happly switch with you. Ill pay the 600 every 2 years.
I hear you, it’s definitely better than the alternative. Doing my renewal tomorrow
You guys got screwed badly by the democrats. Yet you will still vote for them. They never had the powers allocated to give you citizenship. Y’all are fucked
name checks out
Lol so clever. Nice citizenship.
Agree with u fuck this shit. Its not benefiting most of us. Fuck them all!