Sub it to me for £11,700 for your own £100 easy money.
We keep going like that, 100 odd subcontractors, until some undocumented foreign labourer does it for £40 cash in hand 😂
Learning a trick off the airports.
"A single from London Luton Central to Manchester Midlands Parkway please?"
"I don't know why your being polite. I'm just a machine. The ticket office is closed. Do you want a flexible anytime saver or an off peak standard?"
"Dunno. Whatever's cheapest?"
"That'll be £396.47 when you're ready"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/10/25/chinese-developer-five-hitmen-sentenced-after-failed-murder-outsource/4094899002/
Think this belongs here
Yeah I had a similar situation last year, one quoted £11k the other £14k .. I was on the verge of replying with my opinion of unethical trading especially since the bathroom suite they'd included was filthy cheap fixtures (all itemised unlike yours)
We eventually found someone who fit the bathroom for £4k including tiling, lights, all fixtures. We supplied the fixtures and tiles but they bought the grout and edges for tiling.
Edit: I had already ripped out our previous bathroom. Nothing was being moved.
my neighbor paid 35k canadian last year for a bathrooms smaller than this. I told him I'd do a better job for 15k (still insane) and he still paid the 35k.
The insanely high quote is because he doesn’t want to do it, he’s priced it at what it would take to make it worth it, to get over the hatred of working in a tiny space doing something he probably doesn’t have time for.
The location may also be a problem for him, maybe he lives far away or parking is shit.
If he doesn’t get it he doesn’t mind and if he does it’s a good touch.
That’s basically it.
Or they may be used to quoting for insurance work. This made my life hell with the loss adjuster. Everyone over quoted and I had no idea what the expectations were. I even had one builder wanting £100 to write the quotation. It was just wasting everyone's time.
No chance mate I got one completely re-done same size as yours, stripped back to brick, new flooring, half walled tiles, corner shower, new towel rail, new sink unit, new toilet, mirror cabinet with de-mist, plastered, painted etc etc and that came to £6500 inc vat
Currently insulating my loft for which I was quoted £1500 +VAT.
It's a painful, grimy job but I feel like I'm essentially paying myself £100 an hour, so it's fine.
I’m so sorry to hear this. Life is tough all round at the moment, please look after yourself. Perhaps have a chat with GP, help lighten the load a bit?
Re money - report to police? Tapi? House insurance?
Gutted for you. Never trust anyone in your home that isn’t your immediate family when cash is concerned!
I feel bad for also doing the maths but i feel like it was required. Although i will say this essay points at you requiring professional help seeing as its completely off point from OP's post and is essentially a cry for help on reddit.
Go book an appointment at your GP
Edit: A quick scan of your post history also points to your complete inability to format a post so its readable. Please learn to use the Enter Key ;)
Edit2: You spend £730 a month on "Medical marijuana" yet you lament the fact £350 was stolen which was money for your childrens xmas presents. Maybe take a look at things more closely ;)
Paying just shy of 10k as we speak, all in, on a similar sized room. Suite was ~£4K and tiles were ~£800. Remaining half of the money on labour and materials for the plumbing, plastering, moving a door, electrics, flooring, etc.
The price stings a little but I don’t have the time or skill to be doing my own and only bathroom.
I had a quote for a smaller en-suite.
£6k for JUST the plumbing of the pipes
JUST the pipes
Nothing moving
No fixtures or suite included
No new boarding
No skipping of materials
No replacement floorboards
No second fucking fix, I’d have to do that myself.
It was six fucking grand for probably a couple of day’s work, absolute max.
I paid £4k for a bathroom fully fitted with old one being ripped out. Complete rejig and tiling all 4 walls and floor. I live in Wallasey so not far from you at all
If your house is older than 2000 and you haven't had an asbestos survey prior to the works, that's another cost you should be adding. Any decent builder should really check for this.
None of that is worth anywhere near that.
I just got a plastering quote, whole downstairs hall, stairs and landing for £760.
Got bathroom done last year, including knocking wall out and everything back to the bare bricks. £4000.
Labour seems a bit steep, but it's not horrific, especially without knowing what work is actually involved. We're budgeting 5k on our bathroom renovation - but I'm doing the work myself, and it includes a jacuzzi bath, steam shower, and marble tiles.
This is what i paid 2 years ago and then we had to buy tiles/ flooring / bathroom suite on top, similar size of bathroom.
Up in a cheap part of England too.
———————-
Remove existing bathroom suite, including all tiles
• Sort out w/c soil pipe, box out to conceal pipework
• Check all plumbing, renew if required
• Reposition pipework to accommodate new lay out
• Prepare room for plastering, including sorting out new window reveal
• Plaster walls where no tiling is required
• Install over bath shower
• Fit new bath (shower bath)
• Partial tiling on walls, tile floor
• Keep radiator and blank off towel warmer
• Install new toilet and vanity sink with mirror
• Fit any accessories
• LED spot lights (??)
Total = £4568.00
• Quotation does not include the removal of rubbish or packaging. If this is required an additional cost of £250 can be added to the quote to cover the hire of a skip (to be placed on the drive; if it is to be placed on a public highway the an additional £30 will be applied)
• Price includes all building, plumbing and tiling materials, does not include any bathroom products or tiles.
We Paid £13k for a decent sized upstairs bathroom but that included the suite…… that’s an insane price.
The only unforeseen extras were a new fuse box and some earthing. But they were great…..even if, when they laid the sealant on the floor they forgot to turn off their radio so my GF and I came home to drumb n bass a note and two Mars bars to say sorry.
I did it myself last year (excluding the shower, which was newer and I was scared).
You really can do all the individual elements yourself, but it will take time and will be a learning experience. Don’t expect to get everything right first time, and expect a few trips to your local plumbers merchant where you explain things to a staff member with a slightly wild look in your eyes.
Good luck! I reckon if you do it, and you buy all the tools rather than renting, it will be the last time in your life you pay someone for a new bathroom.
I paid £550 for a plumber to do first fix In my bathroom took him about 4 hours.
Rerouting rad, new waste for bath along with taps, and fitting toilet and first fix for the sink.
That's mental.
Looks almost identical to my mums bathroom. Had everything ripped out. New full length shower, new toilet, new sink, new floor, new ceiling covering, new lights, new ventilation fan, new towel radiator, new mirror with light. £6000 all in.
Had mine done last month and my bathroom is almost exactly the same as yours.
Paid £1000 for a basic suite, mirror cabinet etc
Then family friend who is a fitter did it on the cheap for me and that cost £6000
Prices have definitely gone up the last few years as my kitchen cost under £6000 all in with electrics but that quoted price seems too high even now.
10 days. 9am-3pm
Thought it took a while personally but didn't question the timing due to being a family friend in the trade. That included full fitting, plaster skimmed the ceiling with new lighting, flooring and radiators.
I was guessing it was going to cost 4k but when we were getting quotes we didn't get anything under 7k for the fitting and up to 2 week estimates
OK that does sound like more than 4 days work with the plastering etc. I ripped up my floorboards, moved some pipes, layed, plywood then backer boards, electric underfloor heating, tiled floor and put in new sink and toilet, vanity light electrics and put up coving in around 4 days. A lot of that time was stopping to rewatch youtube videos because I had never done any of that before!
Most bathroom fitters are now allowing 2 weeks for pretty much a small ensuite now it does seem crazy £6k mates rates for labour seems very stiff though I would expect 3k mates rates labour at the most. 6k is not a mate rate even if the quotes before were higher.
That's ridiculous.
As for the person below that says 2 weeks... madness. I've DIY'd a few bathrooms myself now. for 4m2, I'd be looking at 4 (very solid) DIY days. Last one I did for my in-laws was a similar size, cost about 2.5k in materials and 3.5 days plus a couple of hours of tidying up. If I can do it, on my own, as an amateur in 4 days - there's no way it will take a trade 2 weeks.
That was for a complete rip out, conversion from bath to bath + shower (so chasing out pipework for shower in brick wall), tiling, LVT flooring and fitting a new suite + new towel rail.
Any builder that quotes 2 weeks to do a bathroom is taking the utter piss unless you're having something crazy done, especially if they're charging £80 an hour.
How did you learn to do it? I’ve fixed a few bits in my bathroom and I’m comfortable tiling so I think I’d be okay if I learned how to connect up a bath, shower and toilet.
Alternatively I might do the fitting and get a plumber to do the final connections.
>ow that says 2 weeks... madness. I've DIY'd a few bathrooms myself now. for 4m2, I'd be looking at 4 (very solid) DIY days. Last one I did for my in-laws was a similar size, cost about 2.5k in materials and 3.5 days plus a couple of hours of tidying up. If I can do it, on my own, as an ama
Yep, bathrooms aren't the scary job people make them out to be.
Fitting a bath isn't that difficult, batten the wall, install the legs and build a small support frame (You can buy metal "screw together" jobs if you're not comfortable with that.
Shower screens are 3 screws on the wall and a couple of grub screws. Etc.
If you're not comfortable plumbing, that's fair enough (escaped water can go very wrong very quickly!) but it's really not a terribly difficult job - book a week off work, learn some new skills and save yourself 10k!
Good for you! Think how much you'll save, and of the satisfaction of getting it done. You can get specialist tools if necessary, use the best materials and still be quids in!
Northwest here. 2.5 years ago we had a separate toilet knocked through to the bathroom, new suite installed, and walls re-plastered and tiled, old water tank ripped out, thermostatic shower installed, old boiler ripped out and replaced with a new one combi boiler .All in it cost us £6800. I know we're over two years later but that is taking the piss.
So people pay because they don’t know any different. A person whom I know paid 22k approx 6 years ago.
This person was a giant dick head so I was glad. Bathroom was crap too.
This is a classic really don’t want the job quote, the guy hasn’t even been arsed to build the quote properly, just put in one misc item of £11,750.
You could have a bit of a laugh, call them up and say “yes please when can you start? you’re about £6k cheaper than the rest…. “ When someone at their end (if there is more than one person) opens up the quote to see no detail at all and just one misc, they’ll poop themselves a little bit.
That sounds ridiculous. Here’s ours from early summer. We’re in the midlands, and redid a 1.5 x 2.3m shower room and moved a hot water tank to the other side of the wall. Plumber and tiler recommended by my family, electrician was recommended by the plumber. We stripped the old tiles ourselves.
£1300 - tiling and a little plastering where needed. Floor and full walls
£3000 - bathroom fittings & tiles, definitely could have been cheaper. Walk in shower, toilet and sink on a built in unit with solid worktop, and a big fancy light up mirror/cabinet. Tiles were £30-40 per sq m.
£620 - electrics, fitting spotlights and an extractor, moving the switch from a pull cord to outside the door, and electrics for hot water tank.
£4743 - plumbing. Everything removed, hot water tank replaced and put on the other side of a wall and all pipe work moved. Shower waste, toilet and sink all moved. Radiator actually stayed put! Also covered an unrelated leak repair after hrs, as he stuck it on the same bill. If I remember the bathroom side was originally quoted as 1.5-2k and the hot water was 2.5-3k.
Great. This is so helpful.
I'm going to try to do all of the ripping out myself and save that cash.
I'm happy to invest in good trades so I don't have to worry about minor leaks etc
I paid £6.5k for all brand new fixtures, tiling, tiles, plastering two walls, etc. For a bathroom approximately the same size. That was in May, in central Scotland.
Why is it not properly itemised? A skip of that size will cost no more than £300, tile boarding and tiles around £1000, suite provided it’s not too fancy will be less than £500 with fittings, flooring will be sub £500 for something of that size. Now I’m a builders merchant so I can’t say what labour costs but you have max 3k in materials so by that the labour would be 8k which seems out to me! Time for a new quote l, maybe when you get a decent quote you should show them!
Just getting my bathroom done. Overall costing me around 4k... that includes labour and everything else.
I got a quote for 10k from someone... told him where to go.
This is what you do when you don't want the job. Usually bad vibes with the customer or a potential issue with the building, that you can't be arsed to deal with, like working in a tiny room.
Christ. Did mine myself with my dad’s help in a week. Shower tray off eBay, nice rain head shower unit off Victoria plum, loo and sink from b&q and tiles from wickes. We had to redo the subfloor and redo some plaster, moved the toilet and sink. Cost me around £2.5k all in.
Mad what some people are charging nowadays. I’m sure the going rate used to be around 7k including suite and that was an expensive job?
Got quoted 12 grand for an 8x4 bathroom, no electrical as id sorted that, no plastering, just supply and fit. (Also supplied our own tiles)
Got it done for 6.
To think they’re pumping out quotes like that and it doesn’t even look like they’re vat registered. 7 or 8 jobs like that and they’re over the threshold. Someone’s playing fast and loose
Mine cost about £7,500. I got all the bits and bobs, didn’t get a skip just paid a waste removal man to take it all away. Truth be told, they did a pretty mediocre job.
I re did my bathroom some years ago. I do have a bit of DIY experience but youtu.be helped a lot. Got a sparky in to fit the 45amp fuse board and wiring for the power shower and a plumber to fit the radiator and connect to the hw system. Hired a skip and got the suite from an online supplier. Numerous trips to the big DIY store for everything else.
Was quoted £10k or thereabouts by a tradesman but didn't include his sparky mate's bit.
Cost me about £3,5k if memory serves. Took me a bit longer but didn't have to worry about the guy not showing up a quarter way through and listen to his nonsense about his nan falling over and no one could take her in but him, his lads getting Covid so had to go to their jobs to help out, his van failing its MOT, his phone 'having issues ' and all that bullshit!
We charge anywhere between 9 to 14k depending on size. That does include labour (incl p&d + electrics), bathroom suite, materials. I'd say on average we charge 5000 for labour, 1200 on materials, 4000 on bathroom suite.
Good plumber - £35/hour
Good tiler - £50/sqm
Good electrician - £100/fixture
Good plasterer - £300/day
Good fitter - £300/day
Builder for subfloor, Rip-out water proofing - £500/day. Although builders like to quote "per job" in my experience.
Materials - you can spend whatever you want here. Just get everything yourself.
1 day plastering - £300
1 day Rip-out - £500
1 day subfloor & waterproofing - £500
Electrics - £500
Plumber - £700
Fitter - £600
All walls and floor tiled - £1000
If you pay each contractor on your own, I reckon you can get them for £4k ish I'd you're going back to brick and getting it re-done from there.
Running a small flooring company myself I see these prices being charged and it blows my mind.
We see these jobs once they’re finished and more often than not the customer isn’t happy with something. If you’re going to charge these silly prices you should make sure the job is perfection.
Tbh our bathroom refit was not much more than this, but it did include moving the toilet and shower.
Though, our quote was properly itemised at least...
Tbf it included everything, including the suite. Total rip-out, re-floor, re-plumb, re-plaster, waterproofing, tiling, new electrics, unit fitting etc.
I'm getting mine done now. Pretty much exact same size as this and the quote was £3,200. I've added a bit extra since then don't think it'll cost more than £4k total. And that's including the sink, toilet and bath costs.
Do not pay £11k for it doing!
Tradesman 4 doors down from me honestly has a brand new lambo. He only does loft conversions/single story extensions and some landscaping.
The lack of people going into trades because they don’t want to get dirty or cold and they’d rather feel important in their cheap suit is creating a gold mine for others.
When all the building sites close down beginning of next year and those trades start going out on their own for work things will change. Right now trades are plucking figures out of the air because they can pick and choose and charge what they want. Supply and demand will flip
I know several people on new build sites across multiple trades and locations all say they are only finishing the current plots and that’s it. Family member on the commercial side say all future projects are shelved, just finishing current one.
Construction is the last to die off when the economy has a downturn. These trades will just do private work instead
Spoke a couple of fellas recently who said a lot of sites are getting to the point where they’ll only do fittings, fixtures, and decorating on a per unit sold basis, rather than getting the whole site finished and paid up. They also reckon the private jobs market is going to get swamped soon, so prices will probably start falling, labour-wise.
That's crazy. What is costing that much?
I had my wren kitchen supplied and fitted for 7k with quartz work tops and hot water tap
This bathroom quote is nearly £16k for everything
I had a quote for 4-5k in West Mids to rip out, tile, and install a new suite. Yours is not normal. I have to buy the suite but still nowhere near 12k.
This makes me less worried as I'm planning to replace the bathroom in the next year or so when I get my house!
Mind you I'm not looking at tiling the whole room (just mainly the immediate vicinity of the shower and where it may splash to).
How big is your bathroom? Think mines like 2.1 x 2.8m
For me as a plumber I charge £80 per hour. Bathrooms can take two weeks easily...that's nearly 7k plus possible other trades like Electrical work, plasterers, decorators, tilers with their labour and materials.
Materials costs are sky high ATM also which doesn't help.
Best bet is, as always get a few quotes, and as always, I'm sure you can get done very cheaply, but probably won't be the dream bathroom your after.
Standard 2.5 hour day
Show up at 9, work for an hour, break for an hour, take lunch for an hour, work for an hour, break for an hour, work for half an hour, then disappear at 2:30 without informing the client.
lol £80 an hour might be reasonable for emergency call out work, but not for a bathroom fitting.
£500+ day rate for a bathroom fitter is taking the piss (or should I say, taking advantage of customers who don't know beter).
£150for 1st hour £100 after that for out of hours.
The plumbing and heating company I work for has been in business for 60+ years with 25 enginers working 5days a week, and 3 engineers (it rotates week to week) doing 7 days 24hr call out.
Generally your waiting 3months to get in our diarys for a new bathroom. Just always non stop.
Sorry, that was to the guy above who said £80 for a call out was fair...were much more than that for a call out, but would very much be £80 ph on a bathroom
If that conclusion is that my boss is a very wealthy man. Then you would be right....I am not 😂
I will add that we are charged out as heating engineers, whatever the job. It's not like our experience and qualifications are less, and should be charged out for less, if we're fitting bathrooms. It's the customers choice to employ us.
All bathrooms will be quoted. So the customer will know exactly what there paying before any work is done.
We only advertise in local papers. Nearly all our work is from word of mouth. Iv got many customers I go to now that i was going to 20 years ago...still more than happy to employ us.
that's barmy. i paid £7.5k for mine for a similar sized room; however this was: in may 2022 based in liverpool, which obvs will impact pricing.
this covered:
* rip out & disposal of existing suite, tiling, plaster etc - back to brick
* replaster
* plumbing & electrics
* supply & fit of all suite & furniture
* tiling & painting
if you're in the merseyside area i can for sure recommend the fella who did it.
oh lovely - it was leon @ luna bathrooms - https://www.lunabathrooms.com/
they did our downstairs loo as well & i was v happy with their comms, professionalism, standard of work.
i was recommended him by my best mate as he did hers too, also excellent.
This is crazy. I had a £12k quote for mine a month ago so just going to do it myself. In a normal world it shouldn’t be more than £5k
Edit. - Labour only.
If it helps we paid £4k in Feb to re-do our bathroom and we live in Surrey.
That included tiling literally every single wall top to bottom, removing the old fake plastic ceiling, putting up plasterboard and plastering and fitting everything.
Yes they do an amazing job and I stopped trying to get anyone else to price things for us as my guys are always either in same price range or slightly cheaper and I know I can rely on them.
That being said, 12k is an absolute rip off
If that's literally just to rip out out and install provided suite, then even at the higher end of labour charge for a fitter & mate, that's 20 odd days work 🤣
I paid 20.000 € recently for a 7.5 Sq M bathroom in Germany. Complete rip out, new concrete slab, underfloor heating and screed, new waste and water pipes, floor level shower, bath, toilet, sink, towel radiator, new plasterboard ceiling.
Germany is bloody expensive. And German quality is a myth.
Honestly though, you will be more than capable of doing the work. It's just a case of finding the time. Nothing about it is incredibly complicated. Nothing that can't be learnt by watching some vids on YouTube. You will need a plumber and that's the only trade. Get on a day rate £250, one day to cap everything off and another once everything is in and fitted. I have faith.
I have no plumbing experience but I can follow a youtube video with some old guy telling me how to fit a bath.. I can travel to do this for you for just £11k!
Mine is a little bigger. We had a new floor, new shower tray and surrounds. A wall and half of tiling. Moved the bath and moved a towel rail & replaced with new £5200. The items/tiles/floor were not cheap basic stuff either
Absolutely shocking im a bathroom fitter and for me it would be about £4k labour plus i let clients use my discounts to get furniture.
Probably £7k with suite,tiles etc etc
That sounds very heavy, we had a load of quotes to do ours, only needed the same also for a small bathroom although we need the shower switching walls only a bath tap shower, so just needed the bath turning around basically so some plumbing required rerouting/extending a little.
I am actually a decorator by day but bathrooms obviously aren't my thing, so it's deffo DIY for me.....heaviest quote we had was just over 10k and we had one around the £8000 mark.
I was able to do the whole thing myself, including reroute the plumbing which was absolute child's play to be honest I worried about it for days and it took me about 20 mins in the end.
Granted I have some tiling experience, but I did the whole thing at a cost of about £2000 roughly, that was a new suite, heated towel rail, light fixture, replace rotten floorboards, reroute plumbing, tile, and build new housing for the boiler and Pipe work and so on.....
Hardest part was fitting the bath level but if I managed it anyone can....it's pretty easy if nothing is being moved around.
It's a pretty modest bathroom suite but it's a million times better than what it replaced and was 1/5th the cost of the highest quote which was for the same/similar suite.
Jebus OP, similar sort of bathroom and I paid not even remotely near that. I think it was somewhere between 2.5-4k, that included full plumbing, plastering, electrical, marble tiles - I supplied the majority of the materials bar anything 'behind the scenes'.
I don't why the trades do this? How many people truly go "Yup that sounds fair"? In an unrelated field if clients come to me, and I already know it's not worth my while (maybe I have a bigger job on or it's obvious they can't pay my rates etc) I politely decline.
If I got a quote like this, as you've done, I'd tell everyone to steer well clear.
The only logic I can come up with (and it's still unscrupulous)
* You have an assortment of supercars on the drive
* You're an OAP who doesn't know any better, (s)he doesn't need that pension anyway
* He thinks you're a mug and can take advantage.
It takes what? A bit of research on the internet to get a rough idea of day rates and time frames in your area for jobs like this. It only starts getting tricky if the job is particularly technical, or has a ton of unknowns
Totally agree. He started talking to me like I didn't know what I was talking about saying the spotlights needed to come out etc even though I fitted them and they were fully IP rated.
The strange thing is he chased me up for the work so I guess he just assumed I would pay anything
3/4 years ago it wouldve cost me 5 grand to fit a small bathroom, now, my insurance has doubled, van insurance doubled, materials doubled if not tripled i have to pass these costs on to the customer.
I charge nearly double what i used to and earn less money then i used to its crazy.
Stripping a bathroom back to brick, rebuild everything + tiling and decorating is easily 10-12k work.
Plumbing and heating plus gas engineer from the midlands.
Have you tried using one of the big companies that do bathrooms? Everyone told me to use sole traders and they were all like this so I used Victoria Plum in the end.
I have no idea where you live but I'd happily drive to you and do your bathroom for 11.9k
You could make an easy £100 if you sub-contract that to me for £11’800
Sub it to me for £11,700 for your own £100 easy money. We keep going like that, 100 odd subcontractors, until some undocumented foreign labourer does it for £40 cash in hand 😂
Now that's a business.
So wasteful it could be public sector business.
It could be building a high speed rail from London to Manchester.
Birmingham 👀
And not quite to central London either
HS2 new route Luton to Coventry.
Luton to Luton south
Learning a trick off the airports. "A single from London Luton Central to Manchester Midlands Parkway please?" "I don't know why your being polite. I'm just a machine. The ticket office is closed. Do you want a flexible anytime saver or an off peak standard?" "Dunno. Whatever's cheapest?" "That'll be £396.47 when you're ready"
I came here to say that's **exactly** how construction works
Now that's a *government
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/10/25/chinese-developer-five-hitmen-sentenced-after-failed-murder-outsource/4094899002/ Think this belongs here
I'm surprised the longest sentence was only 5 years
Dammit, you used my own genius against me! 🤣
I'll do it for a packet of chocolate hobnobs.
I'll do it for Aldi Hobnobs
Surprisingly good biscuits
Up there with the Titans, Racers and Aldi's own Tunnocks Caramel bars.
Stop it fellas......11 🛑 ✋️
#CAPITALISM, BABY
Do it for£10? 😂
Somebody obviously doesn’t want the job
I went back to him in 30 seconds and said politely that I wouldn't be going ahead
Yeah I had a similar situation last year, one quoted £11k the other £14k .. I was on the verge of replying with my opinion of unethical trading especially since the bathroom suite they'd included was filthy cheap fixtures (all itemised unlike yours) We eventually found someone who fit the bathroom for £4k including tiling, lights, all fixtures. We supplied the fixtures and tiles but they bought the grout and edges for tiling. Edit: I had already ripped out our previous bathroom. Nothing was being moved.
Sounds like a easy 4k
my neighbor paid 35k canadian last year for a bathrooms smaller than this. I told him I'd do a better job for 15k (still insane) and he still paid the 35k.
I've never understood this why not just say. It not for me.
Because if you actually get the job, then it's massively worth it
Until you take ages to do a shitty job... But then at that price, you can just call up wickes and get them to do it for you and pocket the difference.
I'm an estimator and this is precisely why. We call these skiing holiday jobs.
The insanely high quote is because he doesn’t want to do it, he’s priced it at what it would take to make it worth it, to get over the hatred of working in a tiny space doing something he probably doesn’t have time for. The location may also be a problem for him, maybe he lives far away or parking is shit. If he doesn’t get it he doesn’t mind and if he does it’s a good touch. That’s basically it.
Or they may be used to quoting for insurance work. This made my life hell with the loss adjuster. Everyone over quoted and I had no idea what the expectations were. I even had one builder wanting £100 to write the quotation. It was just wasting everyone's time.
He's not very good at maths. I wouldn't trust him to fit anything. He thinks £0.00 + £0.00 = £11k
Is this a joke? You clearly didn't take in to account the other £0.00 + £0.00, it was easily missed but that's where the difference is.
No chance mate I got one completely re-done same size as yours, stripped back to brick, new flooring, half walled tiles, corner shower, new towel rail, new sink unit, new toilet, mirror cabinet with de-mist, plastered, painted etc etc and that came to £6500 inc vat
OMG with bathroom suite on top of that? \#thisiswhywediy
Currently insulating my loft for which I was quoted £1500 +VAT. It's a painful, grimy job but I feel like I'm essentially paying myself £100 an hour, so it's fine.
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I’m so sorry to hear this. Life is tough all round at the moment, please look after yourself. Perhaps have a chat with GP, help lighten the load a bit? Re money - report to police? Tapi? House insurance? Gutted for you. Never trust anyone in your home that isn’t your immediate family when cash is concerned!
So by the time you were 21, you had 3 kids? Any sob story off the back of that information comes at a much much lower sympathy rate.
I feel bad for also doing the maths but i feel like it was required. Although i will say this essay points at you requiring professional help seeing as its completely off point from OP's post and is essentially a cry for help on reddit. Go book an appointment at your GP Edit: A quick scan of your post history also points to your complete inability to format a post so its readable. Please learn to use the Enter Key ;) Edit2: You spend £730 a month on "Medical marijuana" yet you lament the fact £350 was stolen which was money for your childrens xmas presents. Maybe take a look at things more closely ;)
Paying just shy of 10k as we speak, all in, on a similar sized room. Suite was ~£4K and tiles were ~£800. Remaining half of the money on labour and materials for the plumbing, plastering, moving a door, electrics, flooring, etc. The price stings a little but I don’t have the time or skill to be doing my own and only bathroom.
Totally get £10k fully fitted but my quote was £12k just for installation
I had a quote for a smaller en-suite. £6k for JUST the plumbing of the pipes JUST the pipes Nothing moving No fixtures or suite included No new boarding No skipping of materials No replacement floorboards No second fucking fix, I’d have to do that myself. It was six fucking grand for probably a couple of day’s work, absolute max.
Where are you located?
North West. Just outside Chester
I paid £4k for a bathroom fully fitted with old one being ripped out. Complete rejig and tiling all 4 walls and floor. I live in Wallasey so not far from you at all
Sounds good. Ive got a few guys coming to quote now so I can laugh at that quote and move on
I'll never get over people referring to anything near Manchester or Liverpool as "the north”. Lol.
I didn't I said North West
... "North" anything. Doesn't really matter.
I don't think the Internet is a very good place for these thoughts of yours.
If your house is older than 2000 and you haven't had an asbestos survey prior to the works, that's another cost you should be adding. Any decent builder should really check for this.
None of that is worth anywhere near that. I just got a plastering quote, whole downstairs hall, stairs and landing for £760. Got bathroom done last year, including knocking wall out and everything back to the bare bricks. £4000.
Labour seems a bit steep, but it's not horrific, especially without knowing what work is actually involved. We're budgeting 5k on our bathroom renovation - but I'm doing the work myself, and it includes a jacuzzi bath, steam shower, and marble tiles.
This is what i paid 2 years ago and then we had to buy tiles/ flooring / bathroom suite on top, similar size of bathroom. Up in a cheap part of England too. ———————- Remove existing bathroom suite, including all tiles • Sort out w/c soil pipe, box out to conceal pipework • Check all plumbing, renew if required • Reposition pipework to accommodate new lay out • Prepare room for plastering, including sorting out new window reveal • Plaster walls where no tiling is required • Install over bath shower • Fit new bath (shower bath) • Partial tiling on walls, tile floor • Keep radiator and blank off towel warmer • Install new toilet and vanity sink with mirror • Fit any accessories • LED spot lights (??) Total = £4568.00 • Quotation does not include the removal of rubbish or packaging. If this is required an additional cost of £250 can be added to the quote to cover the hire of a skip (to be placed on the drive; if it is to be placed on a public highway the an additional £30 will be applied) • Price includes all building, plumbing and tiling materials, does not include any bathroom products or tiles.
When I read your response and the first line said “This is what I paid 2 years ago” I though you had paid what OP was showing on their quote lol
We Paid £13k for a decent sized upstairs bathroom but that included the suite…… that’s an insane price. The only unforeseen extras were a new fuse box and some earthing. But they were great…..even if, when they laid the sealant on the floor they forgot to turn off their radio so my GF and I came home to drumb n bass a note and two Mars bars to say sorry.
I did it myself last year (excluding the shower, which was newer and I was scared). You really can do all the individual elements yourself, but it will take time and will be a learning experience. Don’t expect to get everything right first time, and expect a few trips to your local plumbers merchant where you explain things to a staff member with a slightly wild look in your eyes. Good luck! I reckon if you do it, and you buy all the tools rather than renting, it will be the last time in your life you pay someone for a new bathroom.
I paid £550 for a plumber to do first fix In my bathroom took him about 4 hours. Rerouting rad, new waste for bath along with taps, and fitting toilet and first fix for the sink. That's mental.
Looks almost identical to my mums bathroom. Had everything ripped out. New full length shower, new toilet, new sink, new floor, new ceiling covering, new lights, new ventilation fan, new towel radiator, new mirror with light. £6000 all in.
Had mine done last month and my bathroom is almost exactly the same as yours. Paid £1000 for a basic suite, mirror cabinet etc Then family friend who is a fitter did it on the cheap for me and that cost £6000 Prices have definitely gone up the last few years as my kitchen cost under £6000 all in with electrics but that quoted price seems too high even now.
Sorry, £6k was mates rates?
Yeah....£5750 to be precise, but that's how crazy the quotes were we were getting
But how many days did it take? Surely its about 4 days work? And How do I earn £1,500 a day? I'm quite good at Bathrooms have done 3 of my own.
10 days. 9am-3pm Thought it took a while personally but didn't question the timing due to being a family friend in the trade. That included full fitting, plaster skimmed the ceiling with new lighting, flooring and radiators. I was guessing it was going to cost 4k but when we were getting quotes we didn't get anything under 7k for the fitting and up to 2 week estimates
OK that does sound like more than 4 days work with the plastering etc. I ripped up my floorboards, moved some pipes, layed, plywood then backer boards, electric underfloor heating, tiled floor and put in new sink and toilet, vanity light electrics and put up coving in around 4 days. A lot of that time was stopping to rewatch youtube videos because I had never done any of that before!
Most bathroom fitters are now allowing 2 weeks for pretty much a small ensuite now it does seem crazy £6k mates rates for labour seems very stiff though I would expect 3k mates rates labour at the most. 6k is not a mate rate even if the quotes before were higher.
That's ridiculous. As for the person below that says 2 weeks... madness. I've DIY'd a few bathrooms myself now. for 4m2, I'd be looking at 4 (very solid) DIY days. Last one I did for my in-laws was a similar size, cost about 2.5k in materials and 3.5 days plus a couple of hours of tidying up. If I can do it, on my own, as an amateur in 4 days - there's no way it will take a trade 2 weeks. That was for a complete rip out, conversion from bath to bath + shower (so chasing out pipework for shower in brick wall), tiling, LVT flooring and fitting a new suite + new towel rail. Any builder that quotes 2 weeks to do a bathroom is taking the utter piss unless you're having something crazy done, especially if they're charging £80 an hour.
How did you learn?
Mine took a month. The guy was hardworking but slow.
Can take as long as they like to make it perfect as long as it's not a daily rate!
It was fixed rate. In the end I finished it myself!
How did you learn to do it? I’ve fixed a few bits in my bathroom and I’m comfortable tiling so I think I’d be okay if I learned how to connect up a bath, shower and toilet. Alternatively I might do the fitting and get a plumber to do the final connections.
If it's saving £11k, I'd go to night classes!
Glad I'm not going nut. I'm going to do most of it myself now and pay for a plumber to hook it up and a tiles to get a nice finish
>ow that says 2 weeks... madness. I've DIY'd a few bathrooms myself now. for 4m2, I'd be looking at 4 (very solid) DIY days. Last one I did for my in-laws was a similar size, cost about 2.5k in materials and 3.5 days plus a couple of hours of tidying up. If I can do it, on my own, as an ama Yep, bathrooms aren't the scary job people make them out to be. Fitting a bath isn't that difficult, batten the wall, install the legs and build a small support frame (You can buy metal "screw together" jobs if you're not comfortable with that. Shower screens are 3 screws on the wall and a couple of grub screws. Etc. If you're not comfortable plumbing, that's fair enough (escaped water can go very wrong very quickly!) but it's really not a terribly difficult job - book a week off work, learn some new skills and save yourself 10k!
Tiling walls and floors can be a big job.
Not in a 6' square room!
Find separate women, your paying for a supervisor in your quote. Whose paying a tiler plumber plasterer spark
Good for you! Think how much you'll save, and of the satisfaction of getting it done. You can get specialist tools if necessary, use the best materials and still be quids in!
Totally agree. I've done my downstairs toilet and the whole thing must have cost £400
Not a chance you get a bathroom stripped out then refitted in 4 days solo.
I must've been dreaming when I did it, then!
Yeah I agree no chance a back to brick full rip out is finished in 4days on your own.
They won't want todo it so they quoted a very high price to put you off using them
I don't think that's the case. He called to chase. He's obviously gone the other way where he wants to take the piss
Northwest here. 2.5 years ago we had a separate toilet knocked through to the bathroom, new suite installed, and walls re-plastered and tiled, old water tank ripped out, thermostatic shower installed, old boiler ripped out and replaced with a new one combi boiler .All in it cost us £6800. I know we're over two years later but that is taking the piss.
Thanks we are just outside Chester so it's clearly a piss take
In a gated house?
Nice area but normal house.
So people pay because they don’t know any different. A person whom I know paid 22k approx 6 years ago. This person was a giant dick head so I was glad. Bathroom was crap too.
This is a classic really don’t want the job quote, the guy hasn’t even been arsed to build the quote properly, just put in one misc item of £11,750. You could have a bit of a laugh, call them up and say “yes please when can you start? you’re about £6k cheaper than the rest…. “ When someone at their end (if there is more than one person) opens up the quote to see no detail at all and just one misc, they’ll poop themselves a little bit.
That sounds ridiculous. Here’s ours from early summer. We’re in the midlands, and redid a 1.5 x 2.3m shower room and moved a hot water tank to the other side of the wall. Plumber and tiler recommended by my family, electrician was recommended by the plumber. We stripped the old tiles ourselves. £1300 - tiling and a little plastering where needed. Floor and full walls £3000 - bathroom fittings & tiles, definitely could have been cheaper. Walk in shower, toilet and sink on a built in unit with solid worktop, and a big fancy light up mirror/cabinet. Tiles were £30-40 per sq m. £620 - electrics, fitting spotlights and an extractor, moving the switch from a pull cord to outside the door, and electrics for hot water tank. £4743 - plumbing. Everything removed, hot water tank replaced and put on the other side of a wall and all pipe work moved. Shower waste, toilet and sink all moved. Radiator actually stayed put! Also covered an unrelated leak repair after hrs, as he stuck it on the same bill. If I remember the bathroom side was originally quoted as 1.5-2k and the hot water was 2.5-3k.
Great. This is so helpful. I'm going to try to do all of the ripping out myself and save that cash. I'm happy to invest in good trades so I don't have to worry about minor leaks etc
having a new bathroom done of similar size for less than half that. shop around.
I bloody am!! Got 2 guys coming this week to quote
I paid £6.5k for all brand new fixtures, tiling, tiles, plastering two walls, etc. For a bathroom approximately the same size. That was in May, in central Scotland.
Paid £3.6k about 2-years ago. 2m x 2m bathroom, including tiling and vinyl plank floor.
Why is it not properly itemised? A skip of that size will cost no more than £300, tile boarding and tiles around £1000, suite provided it’s not too fancy will be less than £500 with fittings, flooring will be sub £500 for something of that size. Now I’m a builders merchant so I can’t say what labour costs but you have max 3k in materials so by that the labour would be 8k which seems out to me! Time for a new quote l, maybe when you get a decent quote you should show them!
The quote is very vague. Stay away imo. Ridiculous price as well
Just getting my bathroom done. Overall costing me around 4k... that includes labour and everything else. I got a quote for 10k from someone... told him where to go.
I'm a QS and if they sent me a quote like that, I'd tell them to do one.
Well nice that it's an itemised quote at least /s
Excellent really helpful itemisation and breakdown of price too…!
Mine twice the size was £5500. We did a lot of the sourcing for units etc though.
This is what you do when you don't want the job. Usually bad vibes with the customer or a potential issue with the building, that you can't be arsed to deal with, like working in a tiny room.
Agree but he chased for the work
Christ. Did mine myself with my dad’s help in a week. Shower tray off eBay, nice rain head shower unit off Victoria plum, loo and sink from b&q and tiles from wickes. We had to redo the subfloor and redo some plaster, moved the toilet and sink. Cost me around £2.5k all in. Mad what some people are charging nowadays. I’m sure the going rate used to be around 7k including suite and that was an expensive job?
Got quoted 12 grand for an 8x4 bathroom, no electrical as id sorted that, no plastering, just supply and fit. (Also supplied our own tiles) Got it done for 6.
I had a £12k quote for a half bathroom. Like 1.5m x 1m. Downstairs toilet size… methinks Brexit is fucking everyone over
To think they’re pumping out quotes like that and it doesn’t even look like they’re vat registered. 7 or 8 jobs like that and they’re over the threshold. Someone’s playing fast and loose
5 k all in (with materials)this year to do our bathroom
Mine cost about £7,500. I got all the bits and bobs, didn’t get a skip just paid a waste removal man to take it all away. Truth be told, they did a pretty mediocre job.
I am refitting my bathroom as I write (Ireland). The size is 1.8m X 2.4m and it is costing me around 10k total. It's insane...
I re did my bathroom some years ago. I do have a bit of DIY experience but youtu.be helped a lot. Got a sparky in to fit the 45amp fuse board and wiring for the power shower and a plumber to fit the radiator and connect to the hw system. Hired a skip and got the suite from an online supplier. Numerous trips to the big DIY store for everything else. Was quoted £10k or thereabouts by a tradesman but didn't include his sparky mate's bit. Cost me about £3,5k if memory serves. Took me a bit longer but didn't have to worry about the guy not showing up a quarter way through and listen to his nonsense about his nan falling over and no one could take her in but him, his lads getting Covid so had to go to their jobs to help out, his van failing its MOT, his phone 'having issues ' and all that bullshit!
We charge anywhere between 9 to 14k depending on size. That does include labour (incl p&d + electrics), bathroom suite, materials. I'd say on average we charge 5000 for labour, 1200 on materials, 4000 on bathroom suite.
Good plumber - £35/hour Good tiler - £50/sqm Good electrician - £100/fixture Good plasterer - £300/day Good fitter - £300/day Builder for subfloor, Rip-out water proofing - £500/day. Although builders like to quote "per job" in my experience. Materials - you can spend whatever you want here. Just get everything yourself. 1 day plastering - £300 1 day Rip-out - £500 1 day subfloor & waterproofing - £500 Electrics - £500 Plumber - £700 Fitter - £600 All walls and floor tiled - £1000 If you pay each contractor on your own, I reckon you can get them for £4k ish I'd you're going back to brick and getting it re-done from there.
Running a small flooring company myself I see these prices being charged and it blows my mind. We see these jobs once they’re finished and more often than not the customer isn’t happy with something. If you’re going to charge these silly prices you should make sure the job is perfection.
I got a new kitchen and bathroom fitted for 4K down south - 3 men full weeks work
The 8yd skip is cheap to be fair to them
Tbh our bathroom refit was not much more than this, but it did include moving the toilet and shower. Though, our quote was properly itemised at least...
Was that for installation only?
Tbf it included everything, including the suite. Total rip-out, re-floor, re-plumb, re-plaster, waterproofing, tiling, new electrics, unit fitting etc.
So not really comparable. Especially since you moved toilet and shower which are major plumbing upheavals.
I'm getting mine done now. Pretty much exact same size as this and the quote was £3,200. I've added a bit extra since then don't think it'll cost more than £4k total. And that's including the sink, toilet and bath costs. Do not pay £11k for it doing!
That's taking the complete piss.
Gotta love the itemised quote \s
Aye diy it save about 11 grand
So is how the tradesman living down the road affords an Audi R8 and his and hers pair of brand new BMW's
Tradesman 4 doors down from me honestly has a brand new lambo. He only does loft conversions/single story extensions and some landscaping. The lack of people going into trades because they don’t want to get dirty or cold and they’d rather feel important in their cheap suit is creating a gold mine for others.
We’d all be rich if we didn’t pay any tax!
When all the building sites close down beginning of next year and those trades start going out on their own for work things will change. Right now trades are plucking figures out of the air because they can pick and choose and charge what they want. Supply and demand will flip
Is this scenario likely? Not doubting you btw.
I know several people on new build sites across multiple trades and locations all say they are only finishing the current plots and that’s it. Family member on the commercial side say all future projects are shelved, just finishing current one. Construction is the last to die off when the economy has a downturn. These trades will just do private work instead
Spoke a couple of fellas recently who said a lot of sites are getting to the point where they’ll only do fittings, fixtures, and decorating on a per unit sold basis, rather than getting the whole site finished and paid up. They also reckon the private jobs market is going to get swamped soon, so prices will probably start falling, labour-wise.
Yeah that's about the average bill for bathrooms we install. Has shot up past couple of years or so
That's crazy. What is costing that much? I had my wren kitchen supplied and fitted for 7k with quartz work tops and hot water tap This bathroom quote is nearly £16k for everything
I had a quote for 4-5k in West Mids to rip out, tile, and install a new suite. Yours is not normal. I have to buy the suite but still nowhere near 12k.
This makes me less worried as I'm planning to replace the bathroom in the next year or so when I get my house! Mind you I'm not looking at tiling the whole room (just mainly the immediate vicinity of the shower and where it may splash to). How big is your bathroom? Think mines like 2.1 x 2.8m
For me as a plumber I charge £80 per hour. Bathrooms can take two weeks easily...that's nearly 7k plus possible other trades like Electrical work, plasterers, decorators, tilers with their labour and materials. Materials costs are sky high ATM also which doesn't help. Best bet is, as always get a few quotes, and as always, I'm sure you can get done very cheaply, but probably won't be the dream bathroom your after.
£80 an hour...lol Decent trades are 200-220 a day here (south west)
Standard 2.5 hour day Show up at 9, work for an hour, break for an hour, take lunch for an hour, work for an hour, break for an hour, work for half an hour, then disappear at 2:30 without informing the client.
lol £80 an hour might be reasonable for emergency call out work, but not for a bathroom fitting. £500+ day rate for a bathroom fitter is taking the piss (or should I say, taking advantage of customers who don't know beter).
£150for 1st hour £100 after that for out of hours. The plumbing and heating company I work for has been in business for 60+ years with 25 enginers working 5days a week, and 3 engineers (it rotates week to week) doing 7 days 24hr call out. Generally your waiting 3months to get in our diarys for a new bathroom. Just always non stop.
Not an 'out of hours' job so not really relevant.
Sorry, that was to the guy above who said £80 for a call out was fair...were much more than that for a call out, but would very much be £80 ph on a bathroom
£7k for 2 weeks. £14k per month, £168k per (48 week) year! I think we can draw our own conclusions.
If that conclusion is that my boss is a very wealthy man. Then you would be right....I am not 😂 I will add that we are charged out as heating engineers, whatever the job. It's not like our experience and qualifications are less, and should be charged out for less, if we're fitting bathrooms. It's the customers choice to employ us. All bathrooms will be quoted. So the customer will know exactly what there paying before any work is done. We only advertise in local papers. Nearly all our work is from word of mouth. Iv got many customers I go to now that i was going to 20 years ago...still more than happy to employ us.
2 weeks just for plumbing? Are you joking?
Why? Because you can?
that's barmy. i paid £7.5k for mine for a similar sized room; however this was: in may 2022 based in liverpool, which obvs will impact pricing. this covered: * rip out & disposal of existing suite, tiling, plaster etc - back to brick * replaster * plumbing & electrics * supply & fit of all suite & furniture * tiling & painting if you're in the merseyside area i can for sure recommend the fella who did it.
I'm over in Chester so I'd be happy to take recommendations 👍
oh lovely - it was leon @ luna bathrooms - https://www.lunabathrooms.com/ they did our downstairs loo as well & i was v happy with their comms, professionalism, standard of work. i was recommended him by my best mate as he did hers too, also excellent.
Thanks I'll take a look.
This is crazy. I had a £12k quote for mine a month ago so just going to do it myself. In a normal world it shouldn’t be more than £5k Edit. - Labour only.
5k for labour maybe, do you expect us to work for free?
I would pay £5k for labour. My quote was £12k just for fitting and a few consumables. The rest was separate from the plumbers merchants
If it helps we paid £4k in Feb to re-do our bathroom and we live in Surrey. That included tiling literally every single wall top to bottom, removing the old fake plastic ceiling, putting up plasterboard and plastering and fitting everything.
That's pretty good for Surrey
Yes they do an amazing job and I stopped trying to get anyone else to price things for us as my guys are always either in same price range or slightly cheaper and I know I can rely on them. That being said, 12k is an absolute rip off
These people are almost drug dealers now. Im sorry but its true. Its exploitation.
Sounds like you have a shitty dealer.
If that's literally just to rip out out and install provided suite, then even at the higher end of labour charge for a fitter & mate, that's 20 odd days work 🤣
Pay it or dont.
I’ll do it for £11k :D
Had a similar quote last month. I don’t really want to do it myself but looks like I will be!
I paid 20.000 € recently for a 7.5 Sq M bathroom in Germany. Complete rip out, new concrete slab, underfloor heating and screed, new waste and water pipes, floor level shower, bath, toilet, sink, towel radiator, new plasterboard ceiling. Germany is bloody expensive. And German quality is a myth.
Jesus lol I used to install bathrooms if I charged that I’d be loaded 🤣🤣🤣
Come do mine!! I can make amazing bacon sandwiches
Mine cost me £2,700 all in. Doing the work myself that is.
Will you come do mine?
Haha sure, that'll be £12,000.
I've told you no once this morning!!
Honestly though, you will be more than capable of doing the work. It's just a case of finding the time. Nothing about it is incredibly complicated. Nothing that can't be learnt by watching some vids on YouTube. You will need a plumber and that's the only trade. Get on a day rate £250, one day to cap everything off and another once everything is in and fitted. I have faith.
Cheers. I've done my other toilet and it was great fun. My wife wants a professional finish so I'm going to pay for a day rate plumber and tiler.
Are they extending the bathroom with that price?
I wish. Would love it bigger
I have no plumbing experience but I can follow a youtube video with some old guy telling me how to fit a bath.. I can travel to do this for you for just £11k!
Mine is a little bigger. We had a new floor, new shower tray and surrounds. A wall and half of tiling. Moved the bath and moved a towel rail & replaced with new £5200. The items/tiles/floor were not cheap basic stuff either
Got a bigger bathroom done for under £3k recently 😄
Absolutely shocking im a bathroom fitter and for me it would be about £4k labour plus i let clients use my discounts to get furniture. Probably £7k with suite,tiles etc etc
Make you a deal…. Buy me a flight from Canada. I’ll do it for 6k. Holiday when I’m done.
That sounds very heavy, we had a load of quotes to do ours, only needed the same also for a small bathroom although we need the shower switching walls only a bath tap shower, so just needed the bath turning around basically so some plumbing required rerouting/extending a little. I am actually a decorator by day but bathrooms obviously aren't my thing, so it's deffo DIY for me.....heaviest quote we had was just over 10k and we had one around the £8000 mark. I was able to do the whole thing myself, including reroute the plumbing which was absolute child's play to be honest I worried about it for days and it took me about 20 mins in the end. Granted I have some tiling experience, but I did the whole thing at a cost of about £2000 roughly, that was a new suite, heated towel rail, light fixture, replace rotten floorboards, reroute plumbing, tile, and build new housing for the boiler and Pipe work and so on..... Hardest part was fitting the bath level but if I managed it anyone can....it's pretty easy if nothing is being moved around. It's a pretty modest bathroom suite but it's a million times better than what it replaced and was 1/5th the cost of the highest quote which was for the same/similar suite.
Jebus OP, similar sort of bathroom and I paid not even remotely near that. I think it was somewhere between 2.5-4k, that included full plumbing, plastering, electrical, marble tiles - I supplied the majority of the materials bar anything 'behind the scenes'. I don't why the trades do this? How many people truly go "Yup that sounds fair"? In an unrelated field if clients come to me, and I already know it's not worth my while (maybe I have a bigger job on or it's obvious they can't pay my rates etc) I politely decline. If I got a quote like this, as you've done, I'd tell everyone to steer well clear. The only logic I can come up with (and it's still unscrupulous) * You have an assortment of supercars on the drive * You're an OAP who doesn't know any better, (s)he doesn't need that pension anyway * He thinks you're a mug and can take advantage. It takes what? A bit of research on the internet to get a rough idea of day rates and time frames in your area for jobs like this. It only starts getting tricky if the job is particularly technical, or has a ton of unknowns
Totally agree. He started talking to me like I didn't know what I was talking about saying the spotlights needed to come out etc even though I fitted them and they were fully IP rated. The strange thing is he chased me up for the work so I guess he just assumed I would pay anything
How has it got to this ? Prices have more than doubled over a couple of years yet inflation is supposed to just be 10% according to the government.
3/4 years ago it wouldve cost me 5 grand to fit a small bathroom, now, my insurance has doubled, van insurance doubled, materials doubled if not tripled i have to pass these costs on to the customer. I charge nearly double what i used to and earn less money then i used to its crazy. Stripping a bathroom back to brick, rebuild everything + tiling and decorating is easily 10-12k work. Plumbing and heating plus gas engineer from the midlands.
Agree and happy to pay but I wasn't asking him to do all of that work. Would you charge that for just labour?
Pisses me off, man. How many unsuspecting people would just go ahead? Cash only I assume.
Oh no he sent me his bank account details. He was very professional at trying to rip me off.
Have you tried using one of the big companies that do bathrooms? Everyone told me to use sole traders and they were all like this so I used Victoria Plum in the end.
Really? How much did they cost?
£8k although I can't remember the size of my bathroom. It wasn't cheap by any means but like for like better than what local businesses quoted
Don’t see the problem. This is a quote not invoice. Get another one.