Fix a strip with a cut out, so kinda ‘L’ shaped fat ‘L’ maybe 12-15mm on each side, so that there is a gap between the wall and the sticking up L piece, mirror slots in and the weight is taken. Do the same at the top, only the other way up and mirror is fixed. You can buy metal versions of what I’m trying (badly!) to explain, where the bottom fixings are non-adjustable but the top ones slide and lock down once in place. The idea of the wood strip gives you the option to take advantage of the vertical timbers. I’ll try to find a link to the metal fixings…..
Do you mean French cleats?
Cut a 45° cut on the wood batten.
Attach one strip to the mirror and the other to the wall.
Very secure fixing and you can lift them off the walls as needed.
I think he means mounting two wooden batons horizontally with a groove cut out of both to slide the mirror in.
You could do the wooden batons but instead of the grooves screw in mirror fixing clips to the batons. Just make sure the batons are fixed to the timber frame behind the plasterboard.
Ah so the wood batten I use essentially spans across two timbers behind the plasterboard and I now have something to fix the mirror to even if the holes land in between the frame. But then isn't this method likely to cause the mirror to protrude from the wall and not be flat up against it?
Ok, yes true although need the wife acceptance factor as well! I will measure the wall and see if in fact the mirror holes might actually line up with the timber because the gaps in the frame aren't that big.
But essentially I either fix to wall using batons and it sticks out a bit or I glue it and maybe after glueing I could put some corner brackets like [these](https://amzn.eu/d/9TwiOW5) on all four corners as double safety.
No reason other than just my own mental block and worry around glueing something like a mirror to the wall. The thought of it falling and hurting someone and smashing into pieces worries me! But I know it would be easier than screwing so maybe I should get over my mental block!
It's also the fact that I'm unlikely to be able to move the mirrors later if I wanted to. Seems the wall is likely to sustain a decent amount of damage no matter how carefully I try and remove the mirror. And the mirror itself may break too.
Have you built the wall?
Insulation is much easier to cut to rearrange the timber, with enough glue and screws you can rearrange some wood to make sure that the screws through the mirror always land in the centre of a piece of it, just adding more wood and taking away more insulation
If the plasterboard is already on, or if the back of the wall is not accessible, it's going to be a bit more difficult - in that case I would be tempted to glue the mirrors, and then hold them in place with a frame around them which can be attached to the wall behind it
Yea the room is fully built unfortunately so can't change any of that. But yes I'm starting to come to the same conclusion. Glue seems best option and potentially some corner brackets as a backup safety option.
some flat pieces of wood or metal could completely cover a border, and as long as you could find the studs there would be somewhere to attach it horizontally at least, it could be painted to match the plasterboard/wall
If you're worried about the mirrors falling, the top is probably the most important place to secure since falling end-over-end would be the most dramatic
edit: maybe some creative use of J-channel? metal would be the most flush/flat to the wall since it's stronger
I've realised with the glue method I can get the bottom of the mirror to rest on the skirting board. The mirror is tall enough that even in that case it will come well above my head (the room has lower than average ceiling) but will mean the mirror is supported by the skirting board somewhat alongside the glue. Might still put some fixings around top corners as you say, either the corner style ones I linked to or I'll look into J-channel as well.
If you know exactly where the timber frames are then why not fix a smallish strip of wood with a suitable cut out both top and bottom to hold it?
Sorry, being simple but I don't understand.
Fix a strip with a cut out, so kinda ‘L’ shaped fat ‘L’ maybe 12-15mm on each side, so that there is a gap between the wall and the sticking up L piece, mirror slots in and the weight is taken. Do the same at the top, only the other way up and mirror is fixed. You can buy metal versions of what I’m trying (badly!) to explain, where the bottom fixings are non-adjustable but the top ones slide and lock down once in place. The idea of the wood strip gives you the option to take advantage of the vertical timbers. I’ll try to find a link to the metal fixings…..
I think I'm kinda getting it but still confused lol. If you can find a link that would be great. Visuals will probably help a lot.
See link above and here again. https://efix.uk/mpss6810-securit-s6810-mirror-brackets
Do you mean French cleats? Cut a 45° cut on the wood batten. Attach one strip to the mirror and the other to the wall. Very secure fixing and you can lift them off the walls as needed.
Not really, 45° wasn’t the plan, just a straight gap in the wood at the wall side, mirror sits in there, top and bottom.
These: https://efix.uk/mpss6810-securit-s6810-mirror-brackets The timber suggestion is a variation on these
I think he means mounting two wooden batons horizontally with a groove cut out of both to slide the mirror in. You could do the wooden batons but instead of the grooves screw in mirror fixing clips to the batons. Just make sure the batons are fixed to the timber frame behind the plasterboard.
But let's say the timber frame is 20cm to the left or right of the mirror hole, what then?
They the battens on the timber frame are generally about 40cm apart. So that should be fine for what you've said your width to be.
Ah so the wood batten I use essentially spans across two timbers behind the plasterboard and I now have something to fix the mirror to even if the holes land in between the frame. But then isn't this method likely to cause the mirror to protrude from the wall and not be flat up against it?
Correct but it's about not wanting a heavy mirror to crash and smash ripping chunks of plasterboard out of the wall.
Ok, yes true although need the wife acceptance factor as well! I will measure the wall and see if in fact the mirror holes might actually line up with the timber because the gaps in the frame aren't that big. But essentially I either fix to wall using batons and it sticks out a bit or I glue it and maybe after glueing I could put some corner brackets like [these](https://amzn.eu/d/9TwiOW5) on all four corners as double safety.
What’s the reason you want to screw the mirror up instead of glueing? Glueing is by far the easiest way of fitting gym mirrors
No reason other than just my own mental block and worry around glueing something like a mirror to the wall. The thought of it falling and hurting someone and smashing into pieces worries me! But I know it would be easier than screwing so maybe I should get over my mental block!
It's also the fact that I'm unlikely to be able to move the mirrors later if I wanted to. Seems the wall is likely to sustain a decent amount of damage no matter how carefully I try and remove the mirror. And the mirror itself may break too.
Have you built the wall? Insulation is much easier to cut to rearrange the timber, with enough glue and screws you can rearrange some wood to make sure that the screws through the mirror always land in the centre of a piece of it, just adding more wood and taking away more insulation If the plasterboard is already on, or if the back of the wall is not accessible, it's going to be a bit more difficult - in that case I would be tempted to glue the mirrors, and then hold them in place with a frame around them which can be attached to the wall behind it
Yea the room is fully built unfortunately so can't change any of that. But yes I'm starting to come to the same conclusion. Glue seems best option and potentially some corner brackets as a backup safety option.
some flat pieces of wood or metal could completely cover a border, and as long as you could find the studs there would be somewhere to attach it horizontally at least, it could be painted to match the plasterboard/wall If you're worried about the mirrors falling, the top is probably the most important place to secure since falling end-over-end would be the most dramatic edit: maybe some creative use of J-channel? metal would be the most flush/flat to the wall since it's stronger
I've realised with the glue method I can get the bottom of the mirror to rest on the skirting board. The mirror is tall enough that even in that case it will come well above my head (the room has lower than average ceiling) but will mean the mirror is supported by the skirting board somewhat alongside the glue. Might still put some fixings around top corners as you say, either the corner style ones I linked to or I'll look into J-channel as well.