Yeah, with good pickaxe placement, you can avoid most crumbs. I don't think you can avoid having a few strikes that end up getting like 0.3 of whatever you are mineing, though. I always aim twords the boarder
Teach this dwarf the art of the zigzag. I always just go crust first and work my way across, never leaving behind more than a thimble of material, but that's far too much.
Basically you just pick a side, lets say the far left, and you mine the farthest left part of the vein. Then you mine what is the new farthest left, and keep going until the entire vein is gone. This will naturally result in a sort of zigzag pattern that covers the entire vein.
This made it much more clear to me what people are talking about lol, I'd call that more like wiping a window when you clean it: up and down, moving sideways. I read it before as people doing 'Z's or something.
Nitra is the one resource where grabbing the entire vein truly matters, that +1 nitra could mean the difference between life and death, failed a deep dive because we ran out of ammo and only had 79 nitra.
I **WISH** everyone mined like us lol
Edit: it also still looks like there may be a full vein if it is dark so I waste time only to be disappointed that I can only mine the crust.
>Is it worth the fraction that the crust actually gives you? Absolutely not
But everyone knows that the crust has the most vitamins!
Mine the crust, it's good for you - just like drinking your beer and petting Molly.
There were multiple instances where dumbass teammates leaving every vein on the wall like that resulted in us missing one or two nitra to be able to call a resup later.
It's less about the amount you get from it and more about the fact that we won't get distracted by it later if someone else sees it, especially if it's far away and they think it's a full patch only to be disappointed. Mine your crusts for christ's sake, or better yet mine in a way where you don't leave crust in the first place.
Mining well means mining well. If you hit the vein in a zig zag from left to right/top to bottom, it leaves nothing behind. And it takes the same amount of time as aimlessly smacking the vein.
It does not.
You show me a video and I'll believe you. Otherwise I'm calling bs.
There's 0% chance you're mining all of that end to end faster than me who leaves crust everywhere and still getting 98% of the minerals.
Except its not? There are plenty of video evidence / calculations on efficent mining. Sure you can play however you want, but dont misinform other people whos values might differ from yours.
The payout for gold is 2 credits/unit + haz multiplier. On haz 5, max complexity and length with the best paying hazards it's 3.3x, so less than 7 credits/unit.
Regardless of difficulty, one has to mine a lot of crusts like that to be able to afford an Oily Oaf.
This is maybe the actual worst possible example of 'not mining the crust', that's ~.03 gold there. Be thankful someone took the time to get 99.9% of that vein in the first place, most people just skip it.
There was a Deep Dive where there was around exactly the amount of Morkite needed on the map so people spent like 30+ minutes running around looking for the remaining bits
And you could lock the dive if you mined Morkite with full pockets, which would destroy a very small fraction of it so you just barely couldn't reach the amount you needed.
I might be mistaken, but I assume that, for instance, if you mine a full spot it would give you 3-4 of the mineral. But if your pockets are full, that stuff drops as an item, but only really contains less than that original amount, so, say, 2-3.
I never did the dive they speak of but if that’s the truth then that would mean you had 1 of the mineral left in the quota but there’s no more around.
I think that’s how it works. I’d like someone else to explain it better though, someone who actually knows!
Man that annoys me so much.
If you mine a bit while full, I’d have it be like
if(mineralChunk.Value())<1: {
inventory.Add(mineralChunk.Value(), overflowInventory); }
else if(mineralChunk.Value())>=1: {
spawnDrop(mineral.Type(), mineralChunk.Value() ); }
Apologies if my psuedocode is kinda stupid or hard to read; Basically, if you mine something and it would give you 0.9 or less (since when you mine it gives you the value on screen of what you mined with that swing) it stores it in your inventory, *even though you can’t see it*, and still deposits it when you go to Molly so it isn’t destroyed, and if it is 1.0 or more, it spawns a mineral chunk drop like normal.
This way nothing is lost or destroyed, and mining the crust is ESPECIALLY incentivized since every bit actually counts and is thus worth something, where otherwise depending on how someone mined it initially, you could potentially destroy nitra by mining it (even though it would be already lost because of the aforementioned mining style).
Considering that from a poorly mined vein, mining the teeny bits may net you anywhere from 0.5 total to maybe 2 mineral chunks TOTAL (in my experience), and that you have to go out of your way to make sure to get them if someone else didn’t being able to carry that small extra handful of minerals isn’t that OP in my opinion. Would be a GREAT QoL update if this was implemented.
I've been on several morkite missions where we were short like 4-6 morkite and had to spend a good bit of time finding one more vein. Gathering the crust prevents such a situation, which can be fatal on high hazards
While this is true, I have literally never had a mission fail due to 79 nitra where it could have been avoided by mining more thoroughly. You can certainly still do it to avoid that potential situation, but it’s unlikely to the point that you really don’t need to bother if you don’t want to.
Honestly, I’m on the side of mine everything that exists and leave nothing behind, but this right here is the best reason I’ve heard to not focus on that so much. Helping greenbeards learn and survive is a great thing to do, I salute you. Rock and stone brother
If I ever run into you on the station or down in hoxxes, drinks are on me
I usually only do a couple missions in a day, and the extra minute or two per mission spent mining crusts isn’t going to make enough difference to do another mission in the time I’ve got
All the comments on that post yesterday about greenbeards joining Hazard 5s really opened my eyes as to how scrubby most people on this sub are. They talk about Hazard 4 like it's the most ball-busting experience imaginable.
Kinda wild to me tbh, not in a "lol get good" way, but in a "these weapons feel so much fucking better with haz 5 enemy density" way. Wish we could adjust spawn density/frequency and health/damage independently
That 0.2 gold is going to cost you minutes of your life at a time that you'll never get back.
Which is a rich thing to say considering we're already wasting it by playing games in the first place. Even so, I'd rather spend it shooting bugs; which seems like a more fun thing to do than clicking at a wall.
If you’re in a hazard 5 mission I don’t care if you mine gold like this because there’s usually a buttload of enemies coming in 5 seconds so it’s alright to rush mining gold in particular.
Don't care. People who goad others to do things the "right" way when the difference is negligble are toxic. Don't rope me into your rp. I'm here to kill bugs and I mine stuff in between the times when I'm doing that.
Community bought into its own "we have such a good community" thing way too hard. Similar thing in FFXIV - it's so pro-casual and anti-elitist, you see instances of script flipping where toxic casuals go off on "elitists" for doing completely normal midgame player activities.
Common? Not as such. Frustrating? Extremely, since the arguments tend to boil down to "I am playing 'correctly' therefore my experience is more important than yours."
The “”real dwarf”” vs. “”leaf lover”” mentality strikes again, I fear. Please people- your way is not the only way, and anyone is entitled to play how they want as long as they aren’t an ass about it.
I won’t comment on gold, but this pisses me off with nitra. I regularly go behind Scouts and TCF Drillers and fill up my bucket with their “crust”. Then it’s just a matter of time before they freak out because they can’t find any more nitra – or even better: they have one of those mods that let you see others’ inventories and then they start ***SCREAMING*** at me for not depositing my 30-40 nitra that ***THEY*** left behind as “crust”.
Lol 3 nitra is still overestimating just how much is left over on crust.
Using the picture shown in the post, that’s .01 gold — and it’s only .01 gold because the game for whatever reason can’t show the actual amount and rounds it (ridiculously) up.
Then I suppose those players need an education in what real crust looks like. They go up to a vein, whack it like 3 times, and leave everything else behind. They get maybe 60-70% of the nitra there, making the rest of us have to get what remains so we’re not starved as a team 8 minutes into the mission.
Because he didn't deposit the minerals he's carrying in molly yet or they didn't leave in the droppod. After those 2 cases, it's shared indeed. But if you need that last sweet bit of nitra for a resupply then yeah, it's not shared untill you deposit in molly.
I havent bothered to mine gold ores in about 350 of my almost 400 hours played now and I cant remember the last time I could not afford something i wanted.
Thats a long winded way of me suggesting its best to just ignore the crusts.
I usually ignore the gold unless there's really nothing to mine, or it gets pinged and I see a greenbeard mining gold and I'll just do it for them, even though I don't need it.
Anyone who is bothered by this is a little bit lacking in some department or another, no offense. You are aware, I assume, that that all amounts to about .2 gold?
I mine gold but only the central vein. This method you mine about 95% of the gold vein. Mining the last 5% or so called "crust" is inefficent as it would take double the time for very little reward.
Mining nitra is different. Always mine nitra fully - it takes one pickaxe swing to mine, where gold takes 2, so not much time wasted to mine crust. Also I had too many situations when I am missing 5 or 2 nitra for resupply drop, lossing the game because of that.
Cant ppl do what they want? I personally think it is a waste of time, but if someone is going to do it, be my guest.
I understand the whole "dwarf ideology", but there are some things I am willing to do - I've never left dwarf behind, and some I won't - I dont see the point in mining crust.
I think the true dwarf just have fun and lets other have fun ;)
Completely depends on the haz, your situation, and the timing. For example, haz 3 alien eggs where you've already gotten all your swarms? You best eat that damn crust. But haz 5+ deep scan when constant movement is key? I might pass someone for not staying to grab every morsel. Nitra is an exception sometimes, because there are games you're just not getting through without grabbing ***all*** of it
Its gold. They already wasted their time even mining it.
For nitra i usually try to be thorough but in the end it doesnt really matter. You loose barely anything. At best its 1 mineral.
Anyone that mines like this is instantly marked in my mind as "this is what their underwear looks like too and are nasty stinkers" straight in the book of grudges under Stinker
It's just plain efficiency. If your going for xp. Then finishing the mission quicker (i.e. not ming the gold or at least streamlining it) allows you to finish missions quicker and gain XP faster.. I e played plenty and I've found people's beliefs go either way.. also tons of people aren't playing with speed in mind
My friends do this all the time and it drives me insane every time.
Mostly because ages ago, there was a deep dive mission that was mining morkite, but we were 1 piece off, and we couldn't find it anywhere. There was an issue with that week's dive so it wasn't just us.
Ok who ever ate those wings we're throwing hands, those weren't even half eaten, those were fucking nibbles.
Those aren't even nibbles. Those are a desperate cry for food re-education. It's almost heresy.
It is heresy
Heresy? As in Ultrakill?
Yes
JUDGEMENT
* reloading noise *
**DIE**
THY END IS NOW.
#M A C H I N E
## PREPARE THYSELF!
FOR JERUSALEM!
favorite part of ultrakill is when jerusalem said 'its jerusaleming time' and jerusalemed all over the place
Even if it is an Ultrakill reference, I'm grabbing the heavy flamer. It was recently re-blessed by a tech priest.
#BURN IN HOLY FIRE
May the Light of the Emperor engulf his enemies.
Ah yes a fellow salamander enjoyer
My dad is like this; found out it is because as a kid he was made to help clean up a chicken farm that mass died. He can't stand seeing the bone.
Eric cartman has been eating the skins again
If I catch Eric Cartman doing that to fried chicken again imma feed him plain boiled chicken.
Several chickens died just to be disrespected like that. This is straight up unethical.
Looks like how guests on hot ones eat their wings.
If you mine properly in a zigzag pattern, it doesn’t leave any behind, does anyone else do this?
Finally, real Dwarfly conversation.
It's almost 1A.M. and I'm drunk. I've been playing Dwarf Fortress for an hour, and your answer set me to cackling.
This is the correct answer. If you start mining from the edge and zigzag through, you never even have this problem to begin with.
Shit really? I guess it's zigzag time
Yeah, with good pickaxe placement, you can avoid most crumbs. I don't think you can avoid having a few strikes that end up getting like 0.3 of whatever you are mineing, though. I always aim twords the boarder
+1
Hey, that's about twice as much gold as was left in OPs picture!
Zig zag all the way. Makes mining so much more engaging
Usually! Especially nitra.
Teach this dwarf the art of the zigzag. I always just go crust first and work my way across, never leaving behind more than a thimble of material, but that's far too much.
Basically you just pick a side, lets say the far left, and you mine the farthest left part of the vein. Then you mine what is the new farthest left, and keep going until the entire vein is gone. This will naturally result in a sort of zigzag pattern that covers the entire vein.
This made it much more clear to me what people are talking about lol, I'd call that more like wiping a window when you clean it: up and down, moving sideways. I read it before as people doing 'Z's or something.
It's literally a zigzag pattern, ex: start top left, go diagonally down right, diagonally up right, diagonally down right etc
Oh wonderful, is this essentially what I do unless I'm panic grabbing nitra anyhow. Thanks!
Congratulations on joining the club of naturally efficient and thorough miners
Imma strong independent dwarf
Nitra is the one resource where grabbing the entire vein truly matters, that +1 nitra could mean the difference between life and death, failed a deep dive because we ran out of ammo and only had 79 nitra.
Too many times have I had 79 nitra and had to scramble for dear life with my last magazine and grenade left to find those precious fractions of nitra.
Discovered that yesterday. That is the way to do it imho
Mining at the edges of where the mineral meets the solid rock is also v efficient
Especially in Sand Pit. You can mine behind gold faster than hitting it!
Yep, really good for speeding through crassus gold there
I **WISH** everyone mined like us lol Edit: it also still looks like there may be a full vein if it is dark so I waste time only to be disappointed that I can only mine the crust.
Is it worth the fraction that the crust actually gives you? Absolutely not Does it bother me seeing crust, so I mine it anyway? Absolutely yes
Why are we like this 🤣
Maybe Karl died with 79 nitra in the bank.
What makes you think Karl is dead?
He just hasn't made it back from the core
We're grown ass dwarves and we WILL mine the crust.
I will get my crunchy-mineral dopamine no matter how many bugs are trying to chew through my lederhosen!!!
Because was a dwarves. It’s in our DNA. We see minerals - we mine minerals. Simple as that.
>Is it worth the fraction that the crust actually gives you? Absolutely not But everyone knows that the crust has the most vitamins! Mine the crust, it's good for you - just like drinking your beer and petting Molly.
There were multiple instances where dumbass teammates leaving every vein on the wall like that resulted in us missing one or two nitra to be able to call a resup later.
This is the way.
It's less about the amount you get from it and more about the fact that we won't get distracted by it later if someone else sees it, especially if it's far away and they think it's a full patch only to be disappointed. Mine your crusts for christ's sake, or better yet mine in a way where you don't leave crust in the first place.
You're a grown ass dwarf, mine your fucking crust.
You're 200 years old for ancestors sake, start acting like it.
Management: Act you age, not your shoe size... Scout: My shoe size is 200 millimeters! Management: *Angry noises*
I say that every time i notice it
Mining well leaves no crust
If you define "Mining well" by scraping all caves of recources then yes. If you define "Mining well" by being super time/resource efficent then no.
Mining well means mining well. If you hit the vein in a zig zag from left to right/top to bottom, it leaves nothing behind. And it takes the same amount of time as aimlessly smacking the vein.
It does not. You show me a video and I'll believe you. Otherwise I'm calling bs. There's 0% chance you're mining all of that end to end faster than me who leaves crust everywhere and still getting 98% of the minerals.
Except its not? There are plenty of video evidence / calculations on efficent mining. Sure you can play however you want, but dont misinform other people whos values might differ from yours.
The payout for gold is 2 credits/unit + haz multiplier. On haz 5, max complexity and length with the best paying hazards it's 3.3x, so less than 7 credits/unit. Regardless of difficulty, one has to mine a lot of crusts like that to be able to afford an Oily Oaf.
It’s not about the money, it’s about sending, a message.
plus the oil gained from the crusts might not even be 1. every hit is 0.1 and you leave with no more than you started
There's maybe 0.2 units of gold there.
It's the principle of the matter
And that's reason enough for a lot of people. Go ahead, fam.
0.2 units missed is still too much missed, get it all no matter what
Efficient AF. Carry on, there's always another cave with more full gold veins to spend that time hitting walls with your pickaxe.
This is maybe the actual worst possible example of 'not mining the crust', that's ~.03 gold there. Be thankful someone took the time to get 99.9% of that vein in the first place, most people just skip it.
I'm not going to spend another 20 seconds to gather remaining 0.6 gold. The only exception is Morkite. Every last drop of Morkite should be mined.
Permanently traumatized by that one deep dive
Do elaborate for the noobs here
There was a Deep Dive where there was around exactly the amount of Morkite needed on the map so people spent like 30+ minutes running around looking for the remaining bits
And you could lock the dive if you mined Morkite with full pockets, which would destroy a very small fraction of it so you just barely couldn't reach the amount you needed.
This is news to me, mining with full pockets can destroy some of the mineral? How does that work?
I might be mistaken, but I assume that, for instance, if you mine a full spot it would give you 3-4 of the mineral. But if your pockets are full, that stuff drops as an item, but only really contains less than that original amount, so, say, 2-3. I never did the dive they speak of but if that’s the truth then that would mean you had 1 of the mineral left in the quota but there’s no more around. I think that’s how it works. I’d like someone else to explain it better though, someone who actually knows!
Man that annoys me so much. If you mine a bit while full, I’d have it be like if(mineralChunk.Value())<1: { inventory.Add(mineralChunk.Value(), overflowInventory); } else if(mineralChunk.Value())>=1: { spawnDrop(mineral.Type(), mineralChunk.Value() ); } Apologies if my psuedocode is kinda stupid or hard to read; Basically, if you mine something and it would give you 0.9 or less (since when you mine it gives you the value on screen of what you mined with that swing) it stores it in your inventory, *even though you can’t see it*, and still deposits it when you go to Molly so it isn’t destroyed, and if it is 1.0 or more, it spawns a mineral chunk drop like normal. This way nothing is lost or destroyed, and mining the crust is ESPECIALLY incentivized since every bit actually counts and is thus worth something, where otherwise depending on how someone mined it initially, you could potentially destroy nitra by mining it (even though it would be already lost because of the aforementioned mining style). Considering that from a poorly mined vein, mining the teeny bits may net you anywhere from 0.5 total to maybe 2 mineral chunks TOTAL (in my experience), and that you have to go out of your way to make sure to get them if someone else didn’t being able to carry that small extra handful of minerals isn’t that OP in my opinion. Would be a GREAT QoL update if this was implemented.
Please don't remind me...
Humorously that deep dive was in the first year of the game and I still remember it, having not played routinely for years
Nitra, team mate crusted once during a hectic as fuck salvage op, got another 6 nitra and it got us the saving resupply. made me change my ways
Have you ever seen the last room of a morkite mission?
I've been on several morkite missions where we were short like 4-6 morkite and had to spend a good bit of time finding one more vein. Gathering the crust prevents such a situation, which can be fatal on high hazards
Morkite *and Nitra*. When shit hits the fan and you need Nitra, you *really* need it. Shattered Armpit be like that sometimes
I would say no mineral is worth spending time to get 0.6 of it unless you luck a little of it for something: call resupply, finish mission etc.
if you have 79 Nitra, you cannot call a resupply.
While this is true, I have literally never had a mission fail due to 79 nitra where it could have been avoided by mining more thoroughly. You can certainly still do it to avoid that potential situation, but it’s unlikely to the point that you really don’t need to bother if you don’t want to.
I used to care, but now the gold is piled so high I cannot see, and I care more about shepherding greenbeards
Honestly, I’m on the side of mine everything that exists and leave nothing behind, but this right here is the best reason I’ve heard to not focus on that so much. Helping greenbeards learn and survive is a great thing to do, I salute you. Rock and stone brother If I ever run into you on the station or down in hoxxes, drinks are on me
Former crust miner here. Just ain’t worth the time. Especially on haz 5 or higher where swarms are common and time is precious
Go on, mine those bits and get +0.5 gold. Meanwhile the slasher swarm is behind you.
Would you rather have 2 gold or 2.5 gold
I'd rather have a pint at the Abyss Bar
Gold can be exchanged for credits which can be exchanged for beer
You make credits faster not mining gold and doing more missions faster
I usually only do a couple missions in a day, and the extra minute or two per mission spent mining crusts isn’t going to make enough difference to do another mission in the time I’ve got
spoken like a true dwarf
Hell if it was 2.000001 gold instead of just 2 from me missing shit, I’d still go for it all, and nobody can stop me
I swear no one on this subreddit plays over haz3
All the comments on that post yesterday about greenbeards joining Hazard 5s really opened my eyes as to how scrubby most people on this sub are. They talk about Hazard 4 like it's the most ball-busting experience imaginable.
Kinda wild to me tbh, not in a "lol get good" way, but in a "these weapons feel so much fucking better with haz 5 enemy density" way. Wish we could adjust spawn density/frequency and health/damage independently
I mean on haz5+ you can ;)
the majority of the playerbase plays haz3-4. you are the 0.1%
And that's perfectly fine.
if you wanna do 8 pickaxe swings for 0.7 gold be my guest, but im not doing it
That's a fully mined vein, I don't know what you're talking about???
It’s just not the best decision compared to focusing on the main obj on higher hazards, I can’t speak for lower hazards tho
on haz 5 and beyond I don't even mine gold at all unless there's pots o' gold or something like that
Just ignore gold most of the time, especially in haz 5
A whole 0.3 gold....
it’s not worth the time
I leave the crumbs for the lootbugs.
0.1 gold
That's like 1.7 gold left...
That 0.2 gold is going to cost you minutes of your life at a time that you'll never get back. Which is a rich thing to say considering we're already wasting it by playing games in the first place. Even so, I'd rather spend it shooting bugs; which seems like a more fun thing to do than clicking at a wall.
If you’re in a hazard 5 mission I don’t care if you mine gold like this because there’s usually a buttload of enemies coming in 5 seconds so it’s alright to rush mining gold in particular.
Don't care. People who goad others to do things the "right" way when the difference is negligble are toxic. Don't rope me into your rp. I'm here to kill bugs and I mine stuff in between the times when I'm doing that.
100%. This whole comment section is rotten behavior.
Community bought into its own "we have such a good community" thing way too hard. Similar thing in FFXIV - it's so pro-casual and anti-elitist, you see instances of script flipping where toxic casuals go off on "elitists" for doing completely normal midgame player activities. Common? Not as such. Frustrating? Extremely, since the arguments tend to boil down to "I am playing 'correctly' therefore my experience is more important than yours."
I've been saying exactly this for a while, yeah. The sub hates to hear it though. I left already tbh
The “”real dwarf”” vs. “”leaf lover”” mentality strikes again, I fear. Please people- your way is not the only way, and anyone is entitled to play how they want as long as they aren’t an ass about it.
this is why i play haz 5+ with max extra bugs i don’t kill bugs to mine, i mine so i have an excuse to go kill bugs
It’s not worth time mining gold unfortunately, let alone the crust. But if it brings your inner dwarf joy, who am I to stop you.
Mine the crust. It’s extra crispy. I ain’t afraid of no bug.
I won’t comment on gold, but this pisses me off with nitra. I regularly go behind Scouts and TCF Drillers and fill up my bucket with their “crust”. Then it’s just a matter of time before they freak out because they can’t find any more nitra – or even better: they have one of those mods that let you see others’ inventories and then they start ***SCREAMING*** at me for not depositing my 30-40 nitra that ***THEY*** left behind as “crust”.
30-40 nitra is not crust lol. mine 10 crusts and you'll have like 3 nitra maybe.
Lol 3 nitra is still overestimating just how much is left over on crust. Using the picture shown in the post, that’s .01 gold — and it’s only .01 gold because the game for whatever reason can’t show the actual amount and rounds it (ridiculously) up.
I’ve had it happen. People’s definition of crust ranges from crust to half the ore vein lol
>People’s definition of crust ranges from crust to lol
Then I suppose those players need an education in what real crust looks like. They go up to a vein, whack it like 3 times, and leave everything else behind. They get maybe 60-70% of the nitra there, making the rest of us have to get what remains so we’re not starved as a team 8 minutes into the mission.
Sorry I’m kind of new to this game, why would your teammates get angry if all your resources are shared anyway?
Because he didn't deposit the minerals he's carrying in molly yet or they didn't leave in the droppod. After those 2 cases, it's shared indeed. But if you need that last sweet bit of nitra for a resupply then yeah, it's not shared untill you deposit in molly.
Hard to do when the scout called Molly over 20,000 meters away. I say this as someone that has, on occasion, done exactly this.
They wouldn't, he's just making shit up
It can't be used if it's sitting in his inventory making him feel superior.
Not a lot of gold left there, but I’ve definitely seen some dwarves leave half veins behind
I love wasting time for 0.2 gold
I thinks gold is the only thing it's acceptable. A lot of players skip gold so I think it's fine if those who don't rush it like this.
Mining the gold crust is not worth it, I am tired of pretending it is
Yummy, 0.1 gold, so worth the 4 to 5 second time waste ☺️
You’re a grown dwarf, you can mine the crust.
Every ounce of mineral counts I will mine it until I don't see it
I havent bothered to mine gold ores in about 350 of my almost 400 hours played now and I cant remember the last time I could not afford something i wanted. Thats a long winded way of me suggesting its best to just ignore the crusts.
You make credits faster not mining gold. Lol
I usually ignore the gold unless there's really nothing to mine, or it gets pinged and I see a greenbeard mining gold and I'll just do it for them, even though I don't need it.
I am a simple dwarf. Gold is there. Gold is mine.
Anyone who is bothered by this is a little bit lacking in some department or another, no offense. You are aware, I assume, that that all amounts to about .2 gold?
I mine gold but only the central vein. This method you mine about 95% of the gold vein. Mining the last 5% or so called "crust" is inefficent as it would take double the time for very little reward. Mining nitra is different. Always mine nitra fully - it takes one pickaxe swing to mine, where gold takes 2, so not much time wasted to mine crust. Also I had too many situations when I am missing 5 or 2 nitra for resupply drop, lossing the game because of that.
Cant ppl do what they want? I personally think it is a waste of time, but if someone is going to do it, be my guest. I understand the whole "dwarf ideology", but there are some things I am willing to do - I've never left dwarf behind, and some I won't - I dont see the point in mining crust. I think the true dwarf just have fun and lets other have fun ;)
.2 gold right there
Explosives placed!
I need every 2 pixel bump there is.
Completely depends on the haz, your situation, and the timing. For example, haz 3 alien eggs where you've already gotten all your swarms? You best eat that damn crust. But haz 5+ deep scan when constant movement is key? I might pass someone for not staying to grab every morsel. Nitra is an exception sometimes, because there are games you're just not getting through without grabbing ***all*** of it
The first image is fun and all, but the second one triggered something dark inside of me. I now crave violence and chicken.
I saw that wing picture the other day on X. I was so disgusted by the effort that I ordered chicken wings today to finish them off lol.
Well, their worth is kinda 0.1 gold so I don't care
Even if that's 0.6 gold. My monkey brain says it's mandatory to mine it
Anyone who does this deserves to stub theyre toe
Sloppy
Murder
Eat the fucking crusts.
That’s a dwarf that’s not FOR KARL
ALWAYS mine the scraps.
I hate it Aesthetically, If a dwarf mines something, it should be nothing left
Those aren't even crusts. Those are crumbs!
1400+ hours with never mining crust like that and have never had issues after my first 100 hours
That's probably like 0.3 gold. Leave it.
Its gold. They already wasted their time even mining it. For nitra i usually try to be thorough but in the end it doesnt really matter. You loose barely anything. At best its 1 mineral.
ok for gold, not ok for nitra
Nobody else use’s driller and cut the whole vein of whatever mineral out so it all falls at once? Just me?
i do
It doesn't bother me, it doesn't bother me, it bothers me, it bothers me a LOT... AND THAT BEARD'S STILL GREEN!
HOW DO ALL THESE SQUARES MAKE A CIRCLE?
Anyone that mines like this is instantly marked in my mind as "this is what their underwear looks like too and are nasty stinkers" straight in the book of grudges under Stinker
Management would not be happy if they had enough courage to look down there.
There’s about 0.5-1 gold left on that wall. It’s been mined correctly
1 c4 will have all that in no time.
It's not worth mining the crust, but with some proper mining technique you shouldn't be leaving crust like this anyway.
crusts give insignificant amount of resources, i don't bother
If anything I think people that mine like this are better players as they know it’s not really worth spending 20 seconds for 0.2 gold
When you're two nitra short of a resupply in desperate need and remember you left it looking like that...
Not worth it as they sometimes only add 0.1 but usually only 0.5 gold.
It's just plain efficiency. If your going for xp. Then finishing the mission quicker (i.e. not ming the gold or at least streamlining it) allows you to finish missions quicker and gain XP faster.. I e played plenty and I've found people's beliefs go either way.. also tons of people aren't playing with speed in mind
“Can’t carry anymore. Where’s Molly?”
It's fine, that's more than 90%.
You're a grown ass dwarf. Mine the whole vein.
My friends do this all the time and it drives me insane every time. Mostly because ages ago, there was a deep dive mission that was mining morkite, but we were 1 piece off, and we couldn't find it anywhere. There was an issue with that week's dive so it wasn't just us.
Have them hung, drawn, and a quarterdered, I say.
Oh good, i am not the only one wanting to stab my pickaxe up their arse for that...
Your a grown dwarf, mine the crust
they mine gold like they wipe their arses
Mine your crust, you're a grown ass dwarf
This is the DRG equivalent of wiping once and pulling up your pants