Just to add emphasis, if this happens the entire government support market will pivot in lock step with this change. Everyone from the big defense contractors like Lockheed and Raytheon down to the small IT shops that keep the networks and servers running will have mass layoffs. Anyone deemed “too woke” to suit their new government program managers will be sacked overnight.
This won’t be because they agree with the MAGA ideology, this will be to assure they can make payroll with the ones that are left.
This will cause a huge drop in productivity. Initially the drop will be from loss of corporate knowledge and increased onboarding costs. Down the road it will be from poor decision making.
People in this market are the best the employers can find. Many have knowledge, skills, and abilities that only decades apprenticing to the prior masters can develop. If that cycle is broken it may take generations to recreate the competences.
Well, weakened. That decision only applies to gray areas in the law.
That said, WTF SCOTUS?!? Before Chevron Congress funded a massive bureaucracy of advisors on technical and policy issues. They brought these experts into hearings to assess executive branch behaviors, and wrote detailed rules and regulations into the laws. That bureaucracy does not exist today.
Chevron allowed Congress to delegate the wonky parts of creating rules and regulations to the federal agencies. SCOTUS just ended that practice, so Congress is going to have to re-create its advisory organizations ASAP. Until then, the courts will just rule blindly, or with whichever bribe is biggest.
I'm glad I am not a drinking man. I would be having my first drink with my morning coffee with these rulings. We are becoming Russia. I am beginning to understand why that place is so full of drunks.
Thanks, I had almost forgotten the ancient pre-chevron era, lol. This Congress will include people like Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and Matt Walsh on its advisory boards, just like Dr Ronnie pill-mill and Scott not my phone Perry got seats on the Intel committee. We'll all be having black bread and vodka for breakfast soon.
ETA: there won't be any coffee, unless it's Victory Coffee.
She’s written articles about it I believe. I’d have to go through the backlog to see if I can find her discussing THIS specific case and not the SC picking it up though.
Ok, thanks, that's about where I'm at, I don't get to read everything all the time, but I think I've figured out the conservative judicial philosophy, it's "let's make a problem where there's no problem."
I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean companies not under federal contract but still subject to ITAR approvals? If so, then yeah, that makes sense. And I concur.
If you mean it will only happen for federal contractors subject to ITAR then I don't concur. Some of the worst abuses of contracting will happen with mom & pop shops that do simple things like print pamphlets. They can't untangle their corporate personas from their personal behaviors.
Your heart is in the right place with this, but need to take it one step further. It's meant to increase profits of MAGA-connected businesses. And the truly insane thing is that the right-wing thinks that Lockheed Martin is on the "left" side of the culture wars just because Lockheed Martin makes their logo rainbowy for June.
If you really think this is left vs right, you’re confused or misled. This is a class war and the corporations are using maga to achieve their goals. Maga is just easier to control..
But that’s my point. They aren’t going to jeopardize their profits if Project 2025 takes effect. Follow the logic here:
In the federal contracting world, vendors make money only when they can win and keep contracts. The current merit-based career program managers and contracting officers seek the best outcome for the least money. Companies maximize profits by hiring the best people and offering them for the lowest rates. They are incentivized to run lean and efficient operations. But that only works when the program manager and their technical advisors know the field.
In Project 2025 world the PMs and their support staffs are there because of WHO they know. They may know jack shit about the field. This is common with political appointees. Remember Bush’s FEMA Director? The guy whose only qualification was running beauty pageants for horses? How well did that agency do when Katrina hit?
In a world where contracts are awarded by people whose only credentials are ideology and connections, the business development folks in the vendor companies are going to make damn sure their corporate image mirrors those ideologies. (They will also develop connections into the ruling network. Historically bribes are involved. Ask any aircraft manufacturer selling airliners to Asia.)
“Woke” people will be removed or rendered invisible by reassignment or layoffs. Quality will go down because quality will no longer be the government’s metric.
This dude is literally a villain. How are people even thinking of not voting for biden just because he's old. I don't want either of them, but I'd rather not have to flee the country in a few months.
Exactly. I’m rewatching HMT again and the details are terrifying. The govt were aware of the potential for mass-exodus - and by the time most people were realising that they needed to get out, the avenues to do so were closed.
Jfc America; vote like your life depends on it.
“Stand down and stand by”. We have to save this country. His disease will spread if we leave the country. Look how he scared off decent republicans. The world will be horribly changed. So where could you even go?
Stay and fight til we push them back under a rock and are embarrassed to be so blatantly racist, homophobic and anti-democratic.
When people ask how soon Project 2025 will start: it has already started. Organizations aligned with P25 are already making lists of non-MAGA government employees who should get fired-- one of many [links](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/conservative-backed-group-creating-list-federal-workers-suspects-111358368) that supplement what Rep. Khanna is discussing above.
I'm no history buff but movements that start off by making lists of people don't usually go in good directions.
Has anyone looked into this being a divide and conquer technique trump is performing for putin? Who would look into this?
He seems so firmly jammed up putin’s ass, there’s no doubt he would weaken our country so we’re on our heels while they attack either more satellite countries or us directly.
Perhaps putin will let trump build a hotel near Moscow’s city center. Trump would surely sell the US for that.
My bigger concern in that trump's bromance with Putin could result in the USA becoming the USR with Putin appointing trump the governor of his new territory. They are working hand in hand, after all.
To anyone worried about Biden or his age after the debate: Biden has surrounded himself with qualified and successful people who have delivered amazing results for all people across America.
trump is planning to surround himself with unqualified, inexperienced, yes-men who will do whatever he wants and insists on. That includes an attorney general who will fire whoever he wants and prosecute his enemies, and a vice president who won't sign a transfer of power if he loses and so much more.
🤔 that shouldn't be a hard choice
So even if Biden wins this election. There's still a possibility that the next president be a republican and still follow through with project 2025? How do we stop this?
From what I’ve gathered, I can only suggest something not peaceful. At this stage, we may have only one option. You can still vote, but the next elections are just as important until the GOP are a small insignificant party. I’m afraid that, even in this election, being peaceful may not be an option.
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tRump already tested this out when he took over the RNC in March 2024. [Dozens of employees were fired](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/11/rnc-trump-firings/) and replaces. And he put his daughter-in-law in charge.
It would seem that anyone who supports this is quite enthralled with the idea of a few rich people grabbing as much as they can while leaving everyone else with very little. Third-world status, here we come!
And those 50,000 people will have total control over policy, which regulations get ignored, who to hire or fire, etc. Total fascist control of the executive and judicial branches. If that happens, only a Robespierre type response would upend the tyranny. Vote!
As long as one can do the job of the federal government is all that should matter. Ones beliefs and ideologies should have no bearing on whether they should work for government or not. Also, forcing everyone to believe the same if they want to work for the government is TOTALLY AGAINST the USA of 1776 and the constitution! This Berry is a FUCKING FASCIST ASSHOLE!!!
Just to add emphasis, if this happens the entire government support market will pivot in lock step with this change. Everyone from the big defense contractors like Lockheed and Raytheon down to the small IT shops that keep the networks and servers running will have mass layoffs. Anyone deemed “too woke” to suit their new government program managers will be sacked overnight. This won’t be because they agree with the MAGA ideology, this will be to assure they can make payroll with the ones that are left. This will cause a huge drop in productivity. Initially the drop will be from loss of corporate knowledge and increased onboarding costs. Down the road it will be from poor decision making. People in this market are the best the employers can find. Many have knowledge, skills, and abilities that only decades apprenticing to the prior masters can develop. If that cycle is broken it may take generations to recreate the competences.
The Supreme Crap invalidated subject matter expertise yesterday with the Chevron decision.
Well, weakened. That decision only applies to gray areas in the law. That said, WTF SCOTUS?!? Before Chevron Congress funded a massive bureaucracy of advisors on technical and policy issues. They brought these experts into hearings to assess executive branch behaviors, and wrote detailed rules and regulations into the laws. That bureaucracy does not exist today. Chevron allowed Congress to delegate the wonky parts of creating rules and regulations to the federal agencies. SCOTUS just ended that practice, so Congress is going to have to re-create its advisory organizations ASAP. Until then, the courts will just rule blindly, or with whichever bribe is biggest. I'm glad I am not a drinking man. I would be having my first drink with my morning coffee with these rulings. We are becoming Russia. I am beginning to understand why that place is so full of drunks.
Thanks, I had almost forgotten the ancient pre-chevron era, lol. This Congress will include people like Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, and Matt Walsh on its advisory boards, just like Dr Ronnie pill-mill and Scott not my phone Perry got seats on the Intel committee. We'll all be having black bread and vodka for breakfast soon. ETA: there won't be any coffee, unless it's Victory Coffee.
The chocolate rations have been raised from 16 grams to 15 grams....
Oh... fantastic...
Yeah I picked a real fucking bad time to try to stop drinking. Think tonight I'll bash my head in with a lemon, wrapped around a large gold brick.
Their decisions as of late are not giving me much hope for the Tennessee gender-affirming case they picked up 😰
If you read Erin In the Morning, has she covered that case?
She’s written articles about it I believe. I’d have to go through the backlog to see if I can find her discussing THIS specific case and not the SC picking it up though.
Ok, thanks, that's about where I'm at, I don't get to read everything all the time, but I think I've figured out the conservative judicial philosophy, it's "let's make a problem where there's no problem."
If your company deals with ITAR.. You too.
I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean companies not under federal contract but still subject to ITAR approvals? If so, then yeah, that makes sense. And I concur. If you mean it will only happen for federal contractors subject to ITAR then I don't concur. Some of the worst abuses of contracting will happen with mom & pop shops that do simple things like print pamphlets. They can't untangle their corporate personas from their personal behaviors.
I don’t agree. Large corporations are not going to hurt their profits over this. The entire thing is made to increase corporate earnings and control.
Your heart is in the right place with this, but need to take it one step further. It's meant to increase profits of MAGA-connected businesses. And the truly insane thing is that the right-wing thinks that Lockheed Martin is on the "left" side of the culture wars just because Lockheed Martin makes their logo rainbowy for June.
If you really think this is left vs right, you’re confused or misled. This is a class war and the corporations are using maga to achieve their goals. Maga is just easier to control..
But that’s my point. They aren’t going to jeopardize their profits if Project 2025 takes effect. Follow the logic here: In the federal contracting world, vendors make money only when they can win and keep contracts. The current merit-based career program managers and contracting officers seek the best outcome for the least money. Companies maximize profits by hiring the best people and offering them for the lowest rates. They are incentivized to run lean and efficient operations. But that only works when the program manager and their technical advisors know the field. In Project 2025 world the PMs and their support staffs are there because of WHO they know. They may know jack shit about the field. This is common with political appointees. Remember Bush’s FEMA Director? The guy whose only qualification was running beauty pageants for horses? How well did that agency do when Katrina hit? In a world where contracts are awarded by people whose only credentials are ideology and connections, the business development folks in the vendor companies are going to make damn sure their corporate image mirrors those ideologies. (They will also develop connections into the ruling network. Historically bribes are involved. Ask any aircraft manufacturer selling airliners to Asia.) “Woke” people will be removed or rendered invisible by reassignment or layoffs. Quality will go down because quality will no longer be the government’s metric.
This dude is literally a villain. How are people even thinking of not voting for biden just because he's old. I don't want either of them, but I'd rather not have to flee the country in a few months.
Handmaid's Tale
Exactly. I’m rewatching HMT again and the details are terrifying. The govt were aware of the potential for mass-exodus - and by the time most people were realising that they needed to get out, the avenues to do so were closed. Jfc America; vote like your life depends on it.
Because it does.
“Stand down and stand by”. We have to save this country. His disease will spread if we leave the country. Look how he scared off decent republicans. The world will be horribly changed. So where could you even go? Stay and fight til we push them back under a rock and are embarrassed to be so blatantly racist, homophobic and anti-democratic.
https://indivisiblenwi.org/2024/06/project-2025-a-real-authoritarian-threat/
Pls read if you need a synopsis of project 2025 https://indivisiblenwi.org/2024/06/project-2025-a-real-authoritarian-threat/
When people ask how soon Project 2025 will start: it has already started. Organizations aligned with P25 are already making lists of non-MAGA government employees who should get fired-- one of many [links](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/conservative-backed-group-creating-list-federal-workers-suspects-111358368) that supplement what Rep. Khanna is discussing above. I'm no history buff but movements that start off by making lists of people don't usually go in good directions.
this is called a purge.
Huh, wonder if I’m on that list.
Mr. Berry, you sir are a fascist
When the NAZIs did this, it was called [Gleichschaltung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung?wprov=sfla1).
The most un-subtle evil master plan of all time
VOTE PEOPLE! VOTE! Every opportunity you get!
When the NAZIs did this, it was called [Gleichschaltung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung?wprov=sfla1).
Hitler has entered the chat.
He never left chat
When the NAZIs did this, it was called [Gleichschaltung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung?wprov=sfla1).
Name and shame that mother fucker.
Has anyone looked into this being a divide and conquer technique trump is performing for putin? Who would look into this? He seems so firmly jammed up putin’s ass, there’s no doubt he would weaken our country so we’re on our heels while they attack either more satellite countries or us directly. Perhaps putin will let trump build a hotel near Moscow’s city center. Trump would surely sell the US for that.
My bigger concern in that trump's bromance with Putin could result in the USA becoming the USR with Putin appointing trump the governor of his new territory. They are working hand in hand, after all.
To anyone worried about Biden or his age after the debate: Biden has surrounded himself with qualified and successful people who have delivered amazing results for all people across America. trump is planning to surround himself with unqualified, inexperienced, yes-men who will do whatever he wants and insists on. That includes an attorney general who will fire whoever he wants and prosecute his enemies, and a vice president who won't sign a transfer of power if he loses and so much more. 🤔 that shouldn't be a hard choice
The replacement magats won't like it when they find out they have to kick up to trump.
So even if Biden wins this election. There's still a possibility that the next president be a republican and still follow through with project 2025? How do we stop this?
From what I’ve gathered, I can only suggest something not peaceful. At this stage, we may have only one option. You can still vote, but the next elections are just as important until the GOP are a small insignificant party. I’m afraid that, even in this election, being peaceful may not be an option.
They’ll try and try again until the end of the universe.
Can we get through surviving this election before we put pressure on ourselves to fix the next one.
Centralizing power is the definition of fascism.
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https://youtu.be/p8GwYQkb2Wg?si=F2YdwyLVZlrKR5qp https://youtu.be/WVRrd31nXas?si=1CsDGDAyUHzkTJpp
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4744182-ro-khanna-donald-trump-project-2025/
Pretty much just as the Nazis did. Fun.
Ask Putin how’s that going
And to think, people thought BLM and Antifa were the doomsday players. These people make them look like clowns.
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tRump already tested this out when he took over the RNC in March 2024. [Dozens of employees were fired](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/11/rnc-trump-firings/) and replaces. And he put his daughter-in-law in charge.
It would seem that anyone who supports this is quite enthralled with the idea of a few rich people grabbing as much as they can while leaving everyone else with very little. Third-world status, here we come!
We are truly heading for some dark times.
And those 50,000 people will have total control over policy, which regulations get ignored, who to hire or fire, etc. Total fascist control of the executive and judicial branches. If that happens, only a Robespierre type response would upend the tyranny. Vote!
He wants to be surrounded by nothing but yes men. This would be a disaster.
https://indivisiblenwi.org/2024/06/project-2025-a-real-authoritarian-threat/
As long as one can do the job of the federal government is all that should matter. Ones beliefs and ideologies should have no bearing on whether they should work for government or not. Also, forcing everyone to believe the same if they want to work for the government is TOTALLY AGAINST the USA of 1776 and the constitution! This Berry is a FUCKING FASCIST ASSHOLE!!!
This won't work.