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AppliedPsychSubstacc

Because tbh, if you really had the balls to bring that script to movie producers today, they would say: "This is already a movie. This is just Blazing Saddles." And then you'd never work in Hollywood again.


rowlandchilde

hmm wonder (((why)))


johnnyhorsedick

Conservatives say you couldn't make it today because the actors are either much older or dead.


Dats_Russia

Good meme but seriously what’s the real reason?


Gamplato

IP law. Can’t just make the same movie again bro.


Wagglebagga

Slurs and edgy jokes.


nerdy_chimera

The real reason is that they missed the point. Like they have on so many other films that are anti-authoritarian right wing. It's why The Boys season 4 is getting review bombed on RT. The apparently spell out that the show is anti-authoritarian right and its pissing them off.


Huarndeek

This reminds me of when Glenn Beck finally listened to the lyrics of Born in the USA by Bruce Springsteen and made a whole-ass segment about it and how anti American it was. After having heard the song for so many years, he never knew what it was about.


enkonta

I mean…to steelman…there are people who are sensitive to white people saying the n word even if in parody. In 2020 HBO decided it needed a disclaimer saying that “racist attitudes pervade the film” https://www.thewrap.com/blazing-saddles-gets-intro-disclaimer-for-racist-context-on-hbo-max/ I don’t think it’s a stretch to claim that the movie probably wouldn’t be viewed as a “safe” bet by the studios, especially when you can pump out 29 more MCU films that won’t stir up controversy Edit: you also couldn’t make it today because Gene Wilder and Clevon Little are dead


Rick_James_Lich

This is a fair steelman, but I'd like to say conservatives are always talking about how the left is overly sensitive but conservatives engage in outrage culture just as much, if not more lol. In fact they are pretty much returning to their roots of being angry at everyone that doesn't agree with them on Christian values. Now that the red pill stuff is pretty much dead, they pretty much regressed.


enkonta

Of course the right engages in outrage culture..I'd 100% agree with that...everyone does it, nobody admits it.


Rick_James_Lich

Totally agree here, for me it's just annoying seeing the party behind the War on Christmas stuff talking about how everyone else is too sensitive.


Dats_Russia

Wasn’t JoJo rabbit a movie about a Nazi child with an imaginary Hitler as a best friend? Why is that ok but not saying the N-word in a parody


RuSnowLeopard

Because you can type out the words Nazi and Hitler but not ni


Ok_Cow_2627

Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies!


Radical_Maple

Because context is something that matters. JoJo rabbit doesn't have sense of Auschwitz death camps with hitler romping around in the filed killing babies. Hes an imaginary friend in the movie You could remake Blazing Saddles today, but it probably wouldn't use as many racial slurs. Its like if they remade the movie MASH, it probably wouldn't have a character names "Spear Chucker Jones" in it


enkonta

Jojo Rabbit got a ton of pushback though when it came out [https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/springtime-for-nazis-how-the-satire-of-jojo-rabbit-backfires#:\~:text=Although%20%E2%80%9CJojo%20Rabbit%E2%80%9D%20is%20set,children%2C%20and%20to%20suggest%20an](https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/springtime-for-nazis-how-the-satire-of-jojo-rabbit-backfires#:~:text=Although%20%E2%80%9CJojo%20Rabbit%E2%80%9D%20is%20set,children%2C%20and%20to%20suggest%20an) [https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/jojo-rabbit-nazi-satire-1202183151/](https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/jojo-rabbit-nazi-satire-1202183151/) [https://www.apucinema.com/post/jojo-rabbit-going-too-far-or-not-far-enough](https://www.apucinema.com/post/jojo-rabbit-going-too-far-or-not-far-enough) [https://estheronfilm.wordpress.com/2020/02/13/my-final-words-on-jojo-rabbit/](https://estheronfilm.wordpress.com/2020/02/13/my-final-words-on-jojo-rabbit/) [https://medium.com/academica-feminista/review-taika-waititis-jojo-rabbit-white-masculinity-and-fascism-a2cd6e24eece](https://medium.com/academica-feminista/review-taika-waititis-jojo-rabbit-white-masculinity-and-fascism-a2cd6e24eece) I think the subject matter of blazing saddles would have easily pushed it further than the pushback that Jojo Rabbit got, to the point of it not being produced


Granitehard

Because it has the nword in it. Thats literally it.


Dats_Russia

But 12 years a slave had the N-word in it and conservatives didn’t make a fuss about that


Tony2Punch

Well cmon you know why it’s different


Dats_Russia

How is it different? Different genres yes but what is fundamentally different about it?


VicSeeg89

Because when it is used in 12 years a slave it is used as a way to show how evil slave owners were. When it is used in blazing saddles its a punch line or at the very least part of a joke. 12 years a slave is trying to horrify the audience with it and blazing saddles is using it for levity. Thats the difference.


citizen_x_

But the whole point of blazing saddles is to make fun at the racism. racism is thematically bad in both works


Bulky-Leadership-596

But deciding racism through comedy isn't really in fashion anymore. It's all serious business now. You are "making light of racism".


citizen_x_

Who said that? Are those people in the room with us right now?


wasniahC

There has been a growing sentiment against depicting racism in a comedy situation. There was a particularly big push in this direction a few years ago, which is why a load of it's always sunny episodes and that one community episode got taken down for blackface (even though the fact that someone was a shitty person for doing blackface was part of the joke). blazing saddles is (or was being?) aired on HBO with a disclaimer that it had racist attitudes, etc.. this isn't a weird conspiracy theory, it's a very obvious shift in cultural values/what's considered fair game. we don't need to pretend it isn't happening.


citizen_x_

broham. you realize they've had tv ratings for decades? something like Blazing Saddles always got disclaimed for crude humor at the least. you're unironically engaged in the most modern iteration of moral panick. fresh off the boat deals with racism. snl still does skits about racism. maaybe, we don't make Blazing Saddles and White Chicks because those jokes are old now? Maybe you haven't noticed that comedy films haven't really been as big as they used to and we live in an era of Rick and Morty


AcephalicDude

Different genre means different meaning, different tone, just overall a completely different context for using the word. C'mon you know you understand that.


pushingsound999

Why are you even making this argument you are either a moron or you know it's different. Nobody here is saying it's right or wrong but we all know the current US culture would not accept a comedy film where white characters repeatively say the N word as part of a joke. The N word is only accepted in films when it's being said by black people or by a character that is depicted as a bad racist character in a serious setting.


Judean1

Bro. That might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard 


Buddhawasgay

Conservatives don't like Blazing Saddles. They like specific words in Blazing Saddles.


Outside-Ad508

“Ey where the white women at?”


No-Surprise-3672

I still want a Gucci saddle and I don’t even have any horses


ScrawnySpectre

Because they can’t distinguish between a racist joke and a joke about racism. This talking point also falls apart when you remember Jojo Rabbit came out in 2019, and was wildly loved.


Pyode

Can you explain why the DnD episode of Community was removed then? I feel like there is definitely some truth to the idea that even jokes ABOUT racism are much more taboo than they used to be.


ScrawnySpectre

So first thing, that episode of Community was in fact made. So it doesn’t really fit into the “you couldn’t make this today” category. In regard to its removal, it was only removed from Netflix. Which was a dumb move and an over correction after other blackface scandals were in the news. It was still available on other streaming services. Furthermore I have never met a single fan of the show or heard a cast/crew member agree that it was right to remove the episode. Quite the opposite actually, when the episode was removed the vast majority of reaction was “that’s stupid”


Pyode

>So first thing, that episode of Community was in fact made. So it doesn’t really fit into the “you couldn’t make this today” category. Are you for real? That episode aired over 10 years ago. The argument isn't that these things couldn't be made 10 years ago, it's that they can't be made today. >In regard to its removal, it was only removed from Netflix. Which was a dumb move and an over correction after other blackface scandals were in the news. It was still available on other streaming services. This is weak as fuck. The point is, a large production company was clearly afraid to have this episode up. Besides, here is a list of other shows that have had similar episodes removed across multiple different services. (This list was pulled from another subreddit. I was originally just going to link it but we aren't allowed to do that. You can find the thread if you just google something like "Episodes removed from streaming services") Scrubs "My Fifteen Seconds," "My Chopped Liver," "My Jiggly Ball" episodes removed from Hulu IASIP "Dee Reynold's Shaping Americas Youth" and "The Gang Makes Lethal Weapon 6" removed from FX/Hulu Season 4, Episode 3 "America's Next Top Paddy's Billboard Model Contest" Season 8, Episode 2 “The Gang Recycles Their Trash” Season 14, Episode 3 "Dee Day" A Fawlty Towers episode "Don't Mention the War" pulled from BBC streaming Tina Fey pulls 30 Rock episodes "Believe in the Stars," 'Christmas Attack Zone," "Live from Studio 6h," and "East Coast Live Show" from streaming, google play, and syndication League of Gentlemen removed entirely from Netflix (apparently for one episode where makeup was misconstrued as blackface) Little Britain, Come Fly With me pulled from Netflix, Britbox, and BBC iPlayer Aqua Teen Hunger Force Season 6, episode 3 "Shake Like Me Community Advanced Dungeons and Dragons Edit: Deleted some irrelevant examples like the South Park episodes that are a different situation. All I'm saying conservatives are not totally off base when talking about this issue. That's not to say they aren't exaggerating at all but it's dishonest to act like nothing has changed. >Furthermore I have never met a single fan of the show or heard a cast/crew member agree that it was right to remove the episode. Quite the opposite actually, when the episode was removed the vast majority of reaction was “that’s stupid” I don't know what this argument is. I'm sure plenty of individuals disagree with these decisions but that doesn't change the fact that they are clearly being made.


Imaginary-Bee3020

Love jojo rabbit. Taika waititi is such an amazing director


clarksonite19

Do you think it’s conservatives who are getting episodes of It’s Always Sunny, The Office and South Park pulled? Comedians are pretty open about red state audiences being more understanding of their jokes.


Efficient_Rise_4140

It's a boomer/Gen x thing more than a conservative thing. On npr they were interviewing an actress that said "you couldn't make blazing saddles today". My parents have also shared the sentiment. 


timetopat

They use some racial slurs and thats kind of it. There is a big overlap with the people who didnt realize the boys is on the nose and making fun of them until recently (the show is actually more subtle than the source material), and the people who think the peak of comedy is racial slur.


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AFRICAN_BUM_DISEASE

One thing I've learned through talking to various people about media is that you should never underestimate conservatives' ability to not get the joke. No matter how on the nose you think it is, they will idolise the character who is making fun of them.


Exe-volt

Helldivers proved to me that so long as you put Planck's length between the conservative audience and the joke making fun of conservatives 90% will not realize they're being made fun of.


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AFRICAN_BUM_DISEASE

Yeah, definitely. I still really enjoy edgy humour, including Blazing Saddles, but if I was watching it in a cinema in 2024, it would kill the humour a bit to know that a decent amount of the laughs around me were from people who agreed with the racist characters. I think the real message is not that we can't enjoy edgy humour, we just have to be more responsible with it than in the past.


_GoodGuyDrew_

Because a lot of comedy has been censored. Episodes of tv shows have been completely removed from streaming because they're considered far too offensive for modern audiences... and Muslims.


enkonta

Since you were getting downvoted…I’ll give a concrete example. In 2020 the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons was delisted from Netflix because of Chang (Ken Jeong) in makeup resembling blackface. In the episode, Chang wears a white wig and black makeup to portray a drow or dark elf named "Brutalitops the Magician"


_GoodGuyDrew_

Yup, there are Southpark episodes that are completely lost into the ether just because they depicted Muhammad. Always Sunny has several episodes banned from streaming platforms simply because of blackface and slurs.


RuSnowLeopard

2020 is the high point so far for being super extra safe about anything related to race. It's not like Peacock also made sure that episode wasn't available once it got added to their service. Netflix didn't start a trend.


Nearby_Gazelle_829

Wrong it’s been like this for years


citizen_x_

Because they are regarded and drink their own hyperbolic koolaid. They don't understand that Blazing Saddles was making fun of racism. The humor isn't racist. The humor is that racism is stupid. Conservatives saw the racism in the movie and thought that was the relatable part. 🤣


pushingsound999

You still couldn't make a movie like that today.


citizen_x_

you could


Born2WAAAGH

Real answer? Hollywood is hyper sensitive about who seems to be allowed to have jokes thrown at them. Blazing saddles is a super edgy, but beloved comedy because jokes get aimed at everyone and cross a lot of lines, despite this its a truly funny movie. Nowadays the butt's of most media jokes are your standard cis/het white guys and even subject matter and is given further credence when actors like Ben Stiller say "Tropic thunder couldn't be made today" which is a bit less offensive than Blazing Saddles was. I could schizo post on this, but decided to be a normal human today.


Born2WAAAGH

At first, I thought the downvotes were for the conservative take, then I realized I mentioned "not schizo posting; like a normal person", forgetting where I was.


frogglesmash

It's the hard R. That's the whole reason.


pushingsound999

People get in trouble these days even if they use the N word to describe someone else saying the N word. That movie could absolutely not be made today because the current culture around the N word is that is must never be spoken unless by a black person or the rare times in a film it's said by a bad character. The rules are dumb but that's the culture we currently live in, the N word is practically magic.


againstmethod

Leftists do not make light of social issues in any kind of self deprecating way. That's why all the new topical comedy uses the formula where you make a character that represents all the fascist evil and then make them look foolish. So basically the same as blazing saddles except completely predictable and safe.


CaptainKlang

I think the boys is a pretty good candidate for a blazing saddles type parody


Generic_Format528

While it's obviously about edgy humor and slurs specifically I hate the "why don't they make the same art today as they did decades ago" garbage no matter who it comes from. Art is a result of the artist's artistic influences and their environment. Why would I even want some someone born in 1989 to make the same observations and commentary as someone from the 70s despite growing up in a different world? That's how you get those shit bands like Wolfmother and Greta Van Fleet that just recreate a sound without adding anything at all.


yuihelp1

Which jokes are the woke jokes? Is it "List your crimes. R\*pe, assault, murder… R\*pe. You already said r\*pe. I know. I just really like r\*pe." ?


imok96

Conservatives don’t understand context and intent matter when saying slurs, which is coincidentally the same problem wokescold lefties have


No-Surprise-3672

Idk about y’all but the conservatives I know in real life love the movie. Shit, I love the movie. It’s a classic. I have no clue what’s ‘woke’ about it. I have no clue what jokes in it would count as ‘woke’ or ‘woke-like’ That is peoples biggest problem is how ‘forced’ shit feels. Nothing felt forced that wasn’t hilarious you can make shows and movies fully shitting on conservatives and as long as it’s done in an actual funny way and not super basic and blatant conservatives will watch it and enjoy it Every ‘boycott’ I’ve seen from conservatives is because the show/movie makers just got lazy with it. “Haha white man bad” “haha you’re a nazi and nazi bad” Like ok bro if I wanted to hear and see this shit I would just go on twitter lmao Sheriff wasn’t just given respect because he was black, he earned it. Which is conservative coded by today’s media standards. The performer is tired of being a whore but still is obsessed with that BBC. Which is conservative coded by todays standards. Big companies destroying small towns for money. Which is conservative coded by todays standards. Or atleast they believe that. Slurs used throughout the film. Why would conservatives not like it? Like did you think conservatives would just hate it bc the main character is black and they beat up some KKK members lmao? Congrats at bringing all the media literacy bots out with this post tho


Ecstatic-Square2158

Yes based on the comments I am seeing here it seems like people do actually believe that conservatives would hate it because it makes fun of the klan and the main protagonist is black. This doesn’t map on to a single conservative I have ever met in real life but hey why would anyone let something silly like reality get in the way of a good narrative.


No-Surprise-3672

100% my father is a red blooded conservative and he loves this damn movie. Really just a Mel brooks fan in general. That also doesn’t map on any conservatives I know either except for the rare really extreme ones. The bubble is so tight online that they don’t realize the average conservative is closer to them than they are to alt righters. Most people don’t really have strong political beliefs in general


bqx188

Cause you couldn't. You'd give the script to the actors and they'd be like hey this is just blazing saddles this is already a movie. Writing a new movie is hard


enkonta

bro...the Lion King was a shot for shot remake...


bqx188

Yea but that involved new tech. The better comparison would be gus Van Sant's psycho from 1998 which is largely detested and ignored despite its boldness and some solid work from much of the cast which includes Vince Vaughn, Anne heche, Julianne moore, Viggo Mortenson, and William h macy Also this is a popular film meme in response to the idea of making Blazing saddles today