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SimplySolace

Official now: https://twitter.com/DetroitRedWings/status/1807826036207296765


JeremyEMT

This isn’t too bad. Better than Reimer if/when Husso goes down again. He put up a .913% in 53 games last season.


coltron57

He’s just better than Husso straight up too.


RickyBobby689

Exactly. 54 games this year .913 save percentage.


JeremyEMT

Yeah, very solid.


[deleted]

The Kings were also a much better defensive team. If he see’s 30 games this year in Detroit, his numbers will probably look closer to his 22-23 season in Ottawa.


LGRW_Sparty88

They could dip but surely we can strive to be better defensively than 22-23 Sens


[deleted]

The 23-24 Wings were probably comparable to the 22-23 Sens. Yzerman still has holes to fill on the blue line this coming season and needs better 2 way play from the forward group. That said, some good addition by subtraction in the off season. Ghost and Perrons offensive play will be missed, but their defensive liabilities less so. Walman getting shipped out helps too - so long as they don’t try to replace him with another 6th/7th defensemen.


LGRW_Sparty88

I agree while we haven’t made the most exciting moves I feel we are improving defensively from last year.


Mother_State3121

Thank god we're letting Sprong walk. That alone will shave off \~65 high value chances against our goalies.


jswitzer

He put up .913/2.55 in 53 games. By comparison Lyon - .904/3.05 in 44 GP Reimer - .904/3.11 in 25 GP Husso - .894/3.55 in 19 GP He might be older but he still put up better numbers than all of our netminders and has playoff experience. This is a pretty solid upgrade.


TechnoVikingGA23

He also played behind a much better defense. Our goaltender play hasn't been amazing, but the defense in front of them is like swiss cheese.


Mother_State3121

\^lol exactly what people are missing when they do low-level analysis and don't watch games. .913/2.55 in 53 games with everyone in front of him religiously playing a 131 trap. Contrasted with our willy nilly D strat paired with forwards allergic to backchecking.


TechnoVikingGA23

Hopefully Yzerman gets us some help this offseason and some of the guys from last year get better. It was sad watching us give up 4-5 every night when we had a top-10 scoring offense most of the season.


Mother_State3121

Not signing Sprong back is going to do wonders. Even with his limited TOI he was the source of 1 high value chance against every game and it didn't show up in the regular stat sheet. Better to have that roster spot open for the young bloods. 


Fluid-Pension-7151

Agreed - this is a tidy piece of work by GMSY.  Good term to allow our young goalies to mature.  Reasonable price.  


TheGongShow61

Husso can stay down honestly lol


Aggravating_Tip_2096

Not bad, it’s the second year that I worry about but that’s a season removed


Lamprayisme

I really like this, Talbot's still a really good goaltender, and I think he can easily split with Lyon, especially for that price. Question is what happens with Husso? Buyout? Trade? LTIRland?


RickyBobby689

My guess is training camp Husso has to show not only is he healthy but that he can make a save. He was flat out bad last year. No idea if that was due to injures. If he can’t stay healthy or raise his game, waived to AHL as depth


cruzweb

The amount of regression has been really hard to watch on Husso's end. Just a few years ago blues fans were split on if they should keep him or Binnington, now they feel like Binnington is probably the most deserving of a statue outside the arena when he retires.


RickyBobby689

Agreed. I hope he comes to camp in amazing shape and looks lights out. I doubt it. But hope he causes an issue and forces us to make a tough decision .


SauceHankRedemption

Seemed like his first season with Detroit he had a really good start too


dkyguy1995

I hope it isn't the case but I wonder if his injury was a slow buildup until it just exploded. Could explain his decline that whatever it was is just hurting a little more every night until you can't play anymore


Lamprayisme

Yeah, if it cost a 2nd for a player like Walman it's probably going to take a lot more to take Husso's 4.5\~, if he isn't healthy/on top of his game it might be best to just let him tandem with Cossa in GR for the year, not like anyone's going to claim him off waivers.


OkraNo8365

Waive him. He’s Swiss cheese. Plus injury prone now. We have a couple young goalies that will have their opportunity by the time the talbot deal expires


Medievil_Walrus

What happens to our cap if he passes waivers unclaimed?


doubeljack

We'll get 1.15M in cap relief, but the other 3.6M from his contract will still count. That's assuming we send Husso to GR. We could potentially buy him out. He's only got one year left on his contract so if we buy him out he will count 1.58M against the cap this season and next.


Medievil_Walrus

Don’t threaten me with a good time. I just wish all this cap that’s open would find a favorite free agent or two of mine added. I guess when we’ve given out $5M AAV FA deals recently, it hasn’t worked out (Copp, Chiarot), but I thought we could really improve the team with a Guentzel, Marchessault, or Necas type scoring forward. I guess that’s Kane’s spot and maybe we’ll add Roy, or there’s room for a trade, but it seems like we have extra money, especially after ditching Walman. Maybe best to just eat the Husso deal this year so not to take dead money into future years.


umbertounity82

Isn’t it too late to buy him out? In any case, I think they’re better off waiving him. The cap relief is still pretty good and it gives them more goalie depth in case Husso can rebound even a little.


doubeljack

He makes more than $4M so there is a possibility to buy him out if Veleno goes to arbitration.


OkraNo8365

I’m not an expert on all the cap stuff but we did just sign another GT. Jack Campbell funny enough, so he might be the 3rd guy/emergency


Medievil_Walrus

Anything at league min kinda doesn’t matter too much, but the Husso extension was a big failure so Stevie might be tentative to make a big money move there. Hmmmm, what’s this pattern? Copp signing was a fail so no more $6M forward free agents. Chiarot signing was a fail so no more $5M defensemen. Yikes.


big_phat_gator

Steve really does seem to learn from his mistakes unlike Holland who just kept repeating them. Hilarious he signed Campbell to that monster deal at the first place, and dont get me started on his trade for Mike Green. Dude had one track and he kept driving in that till the very end.


Medievil_Walrus

Pretty sure Holland had an ownership mandate to keep the team competitive and prevented from rebuilding how he wanted… not sure on that though. Also… has Stevie learned from his mistakes or is he shell shocked? Seems like he’s undergoing the consequences of his mistakes (less money avail to waste), but with more of a war chest who says he doesn’t do the same thing? Look for bargain in tier 2 when really it’s an overpay of tier 3..


Vj1224love

Is this a racist comment?


OldDipper

Swiss cheese has holes in it


WaylonLemmyJohnny

Husso only has one year left on his deal. You ride that out. Worst case he rides pine all year and that money is freed up next season.


jswitzer

Trade. Husso was never anything to write home about and Lyon proved much better. If we had a better defemsive core, Lyon would've looked amazing.


Wrath_Of_Aguirre

Since me and Talbot were born on the exact same day I will not tolerate *any* comments about him being too old.


cronin98

I, for one, appreciate his youthful appearance and performances.


RuthlesslyEmpathetic

He’s not. He’s exactly the right age. Not younger, not older, just right.


Everlovin

36 is the new 26


rksd

I'm younger than Yzerman! We'll leave it at that. :D


KornDawg22

Not sure why y’all are acting like this sucks, did you really want Gibson at 4million or so? This dude put up .913 and played over 50 games last season. He’s probably not getting close to 50 games this season and raises our floor in net


DollarDollar

Raising the goaltending floor should be a noticeable improvement For 2.5M a season this could be incredible value to improve the team


l8on8er

Doesn't matter what goalie we get, Greiss, Ned, Husso, with shitty D continuing, any goalie is gonna struggle.


Habenabaaaa

Yeah bigger problem in March was Seider being our only competent defenseman, not Lyons slump, although it was a horrible time for him to go into a slump


Ydoesany1doanything

True to an extent for sure but you left out one of the best goalies of the rebuild, Bernier. He had some pretty anemic defense and still kept them in games.


DistributionParty506

If he didn't help Ottawa make the playoffs, he isn't helping Detroit make the playoffs. Yzerman is fucking up.


Sweet-Abalone-8324

Lyon/Talbot actually sounds like a decent pairing. I don’t know how Husso fits in anymore though and I hope we don’t get rid of Lyon to keep him around


TacticalWipe

Lyon and Talbot sounds like a menswear chain.


jwt6577

"Lyon and Talbot. We'll save your look and shutout your wallet."


myroommateisgarbage

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Fluid-Pension-7151

Very classy haberdashery!  Bow ties and ascots, houndstooth and bespoke shoes...😂


UrineLuck151

Sounds like a cigarette to me. Benson and Hedges, Lyon and Talbot, Pall and/or Mall


TacticalWipe

I didn't know where you're from, but here in the South they call them Pell Mell. I'm not a smoker, but that infuriates me every time I hear it. READ THE BOX; IT SAYS NEITHER *PELL* OR *MELL*


onbiver9871

For that contract, I’ll take it. Was starting to sour on the Gibson idea, tbh…


RedWong15

This deal is fine lmfao it’s a cheap backup for Lyon. .913 in 53 games played last year. Him being old is the only downside but at that AAV it’s fine.


RickyBobby689

I think he challenges to be the starter. But way better to have him play 40 games and split. Lyon looked like he wore down as season went on


waffels

Yep, Lyon wore down in March. Can't blame him though, he came into the season with 31 starts across 6 seasons with his previous high game starts being 15. Detroit asked him to start 43. That kind of jump in workload is taxing both physically and mentally. Going into this season I'm sure he'll be much better prepared. I expect an even split for Lyon & Talbot to start the year, with the team taking turns riding whoever gets hot. With how the team should hopefully look this year, and the promise Lyon showed early last season, IMO if you give him 40+ games more evenly split across this season you can pencil in a .915+ SV% and sub 2.80 GAA.


RickyBobby689

Exactly. We kept getting guys like Neds and Husso that never started over 50 games. This was worth a shot


Rorynne

He was also playing on an injury if the press interviews after the season are to be believed. Bro was playing harder and longer than he ever had in the nhl up until that point.


zw_rn

I think Lyon should probably back up Talbot tbh. It'll probably be a pretty even split either way.


needuhlife19

Yeah not sure the hate… Very fine goalie and worst case we waive? Someone would grab that contract and if not we can hide him in GR. You’d think we just handed out a long contract to the guy like all these other GMs.


Skerrydude

I clearly can't do math today. Thought he was only 27. He was in top 10 of GAA and %. Nothing to sneeze at and low salary makes this better than fine.


lardshark

This is an instant upgrade at goalie. 2.5 GAA and .913 SV% with the Kings, way better than our goalie situation was last season.


wavyking1

Is there a way to pull numbers to compare the defensive support for Talbot last year to get an idea what that might mean for this year? 


drrtydan

he played 50 games and they made the playoffs so i would assume their d is much better than ours


Wakattack00

Love it. Stevie said we won’t keep 3 goalies this year so let’s hope we find a suitor for Husso, and not Lyon.


HappyInstruction3678

Fr I know people are down on Husso, but I think it's our fault. We broke him. I still think he's a solid goalie and needs a change of scenery.


drrtydan

he has a bum groin. he might be cooked


zw_rn

He played well last season and played a shit ton of games. Good signing IMO. Just wish he was a little younger lol.


Flamengo81-19

Much better than committing longer to a much more expensive option in Gibson. Happy with this


Michiganmade44

Pretty pretty good signing


_JackieDaytona___

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sunshineeeeeeeeeeee_

I wanted Stolarz but Talbot is alright, depends on the day


EarthWonderful

Yeah I really wanted Stolarz too. But I’ll give him a shot.


BellsBeersy

Much better than Reimer


zakksyuk

Talbot/Lyon/Husso. Good enough for now.


Shiddy_Bill

Solid signing, Stolarz only got $2M but Brossoit got $3.3M... Rules out Gibson thankfully. Goals Saved Above Expected rankings last year: #3 Stolarz in 27 starts for FLA #10 Brossoit in 23 starts for WPG #14 Talbot in 50 starts for LAK #34 Lyon in 44 starts #56 Reimer in 25 starts #76 Husso in 19 starts #91 Gibson in 46 starts for ANA


Nitrexk

Love it


RobertStuffyJr

No Gibson, I like that about it.


Singularity_SgrA

This is literally the kind of goalie move I was down for. Not super pricey and keeps from running it back with Husso/Lyon which just isn’t the option going forward if it can be avoided.


BiggestYzerfan

Love it. Is Husso staying?


barneycorp

All-star goalie


laferri2

I'll have to dig out my Red Wings flags and get ready for the parade down Woodward.


Time-Excitement-9814

lets goooooo


Time-Excitement-9814

i remember he looked really good that one playoffs with the wild


[deleted]

One year would have been better. I bet he’ll clear waivers when they send him down to the Griffins. I like this better the signing Campbell for this role.


jgrunn

Damn, he is 37 this Friday. Hope he still has some in the tank.


big_phat_gator

Bob turns 36 in a couple of months and he just won a cup


CornholioRex

I wish we got Ullmark, but I’ll take anything resembling a wall


purvel_catsyuk

Another 1B caliber stop gap is hard to get too excited about, but it's a team friendly deal. Don't hate it


Alternative-Pie4914

And Alex Lyon, again, somehow will managed to be the 1A next year 


Gnarly_Chaplyn

Roughly the same age Osgood was in '08


blanch926

Feeling very whelmed


CD23tol

Meh He's a goalie, that's for sure


Late_Brush4518

Thats fine, and im just happy that it isnt Gibson lol. Idealy just for one year tho, but what ever


gigloo

Meh. Looks like we are rolling three goalies again? And none that I would expect to be anything better than league average, if we are even so lucky.


Unstep-in-Time

Much of the goaltending is about the defense in from of them. You improve that the goaltending improves.


elvishblood_24

Where does he rank with Husso and Lyon


chrisnavillus

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xenonwarrior666

Probably better than Husso. I'm guessing Husso is destined for GR. If he gets his groove back maybe he returns to the A Team


jwt6577

I like Cam Talbot, I like his play style and he's always seemed like a solid guy.


pistolpete9669

Oh fuck yeah dude. For 2.5 I’m very happy about that


HiveFiDesigns

Looks like a nice bridge deal until Cossa is ready…ltir maybe be getting a room ready for Husso.


cabbagesquid

This is the epitome of "whelmed". Cant believe we couldn't match WSH trading a 3rd for Logan Thompson. Unreal.


paradox-eater

Kind of newly into sports, where do you go to keep an eye on potential trades?


cabbagesquid

I usually just go on r/hockey and see all the transactions that happened throughout the day via people/bots posting to Reddit


Legitimate_Creme7481

Great signing by the Wings, I’d rather have Brossoit at 2x3.3 though.


SmokingSlippers

I’m a hockey casual, but this feels like good value and addresses a need, experts is this solid?


SauceHankRedemption

Sure hope we start with Talbot and Lyon in net. Unless Husso comes out swinging...last season Lyon was in the press box for a while to start the season


Alternative-Pie4914

Make me wonder was Lyon really suck at practice or what, to me out of three, Lyon is the better goalie in the end


SauceHankRedemption

I had been assuming that we made the commitment to Husso (who already had played a season with the Wings so he had tenure) to be the starter. So unless he really shit the bed in training camp, he was in. Then Reimer and Lyon were probably playing for the backup spot. And Reimer either performed better, or they were pretty even and Reimer got the nod for being the veteran.


RickyBobby689

Lyon waited for his chance last year then came in hot. Through January he looked solid. Now check his save percentage in Feb, March and April. All sub .900. I like him but he’s a backup.


g_boom

Lord my faith in the Yzerplan has been tested this week, but I STILL BELIEVE. ^((But like Talbot, really???))


Infamous_Oil_6082

And they just signed fricken Jack Campbell of all goalies. Detroit ain't making the playoffs again this year. Fml


paradox-eater

Just saw that we also picked up Jack Campbell? So Lyon is gone too?


Motown27

I like this signing. He's not going to win any awards, but he's a solid goalie to tandem with Lyon and gives our prospects some time to develop.


el_Technico

Talbot is a backup goalie who has failed as a starter in multiple clubs. Recently he was touted as the starter solution in Edmonton only to play so bad he lost his starting spot. He isn't the solution we require. We need a legitimate great goalie who is capable of stealing us games and playing up to 60 games. He isn't it.


Technicoler

literally didn't realize he was still playing ![gif](giphy|jPAdK8Nfzzwt2|downsized)


BiggestYzerfan

He went to the all star game last year


methheadhitman

People still watch that?


jswitzer

He played in the first round this year.


SevenStringGod

Oh..


x_VanHessian_x

Feels uneventful man


No_Pineapple_4609

Ouch


jfstompers

Sweet, we needed mediocre goaltending


RedWong15

Unironically yes we did. Mediocre is better than Reimer and a broken Husso and at 2.5M it’s cheap as hell.


mpoto11

😭


theBO0gieman

Nice…I guess.


Chizzer19

And now we have 3 goalies again. Something’s gotta give. Yzerman said he wouldn’t do the 3 goalie thing again this year.


Anishinabeg

Lol.


AintNoBuffet

Steve put down the pipe please


aspartan14

I was hoping you would delete your account by now. Our favorite unrealistic Yzerman critic.


AintNoBuffet

Were in 5 years of a rebuild under Yzerman. At what point is simply making the playoffs too much to ask for?


aspartan14

When more than two of his prospects graduate to the NHL. We were written off last year and yet again, made another step in the forward direction. Doesn’t really matter how much truth I spit to you, you’ll keep complaining and getting (rightfully) downvoted.


AintNoBuffet

I'm concerned that what seemed like a step in the right direction for the Red Wings might have been a mirage. With Seider and Raymond set to get paid, we're looking at losing an additional $9-12 million in cap space that we used last year to fill critical holes. Unless Seider and Raymond take significant steps forward this year, it's unlikely we'll be a playoff team with our current roster. We desperately need to bolster our top 6 forwards and find a top 4 defenseman to avoid regressing. Without the cap space to address these needs, we'll have to rely on other players making massive leaps, which is unlikely. Who's going to replace Gostisbehere's production and fill the power play quarterback role? Who will step up to replace Sprong and Perron's production? There are too many holes to fill, and we lack the depth to do so without signing new players. Yzerman's managing style and contract decisions are putting us in a difficult position. Without significant improvements from our young stars or new additions, we're at risk of struggling next year. I know I have a reputation for being "Anti-Yzerman" on this sub, but the reality is that our GM's management isn't positioning us best for success. It's tough to admit, but we need to recognize that we aren't getting the best results from our front office.


meadow_sunshine

Average goaltending would go a looooong way for making the playoffs. Husso/Lyon is a garbage tier tandem


TacticalWipe

This will definitely go down as one if the signings in Detroit History. Giant meh on this one, but everyone else just got scooped up real quick like.


mcgrupp44

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methheadhitman

Steve's cookin...slop


swagdaddyham

Can't say that here. Today is the day of "all of steve's previously shit contracts now look good" ya know, that elite level cope


iamelcapitan

We were never going to get an elite goaltender, that's reality. Is what it is, hoping to see Cossa be one of the presumable 3 we start the season with and get real time


mpoto11

I think 2 years is even worse than talbot himself. Now we commit to him being 1 of our 2 man shit rotation for 2 years? Means husso is gone tmrw which is fine, but clearly no upgrade coming in for 2 years till Cossa or Augustine


RickyBobby689

Why? 2.5 is easy to waive and send down or trade. Gives the team flexibility and his numbers would have made him the unquestioned starter for wings last year


mpoto11

No one is trading for the 37 year old goalie, waive possible sure. But that’s not gonna be the plan when husso is gone, yzerman has already come out and said we aren’t holding 3 goalies. Talbot is here the next two seasons.


uknownick

Not really, some teams might want insurance at trade deadline for playoffs Lots of goalies have been traded by TDL


72athansiou

Love are 3B goalies don’t we


Valace2

For fuck sake